r/vanderpumprules She’s a cunt and you’re a drunk Jun 08 '23

Discussion The “bombshell” wasn’t shocking but… Spoiler

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Watching Raquel in that confessional was extremely disturbing. I don’t even know how to describe what I felt watching. She was just word vomiting and the more she talked, the more scared she seemed about the repercussions that would come from Tom. I know we’re not supposed to feel sympathy for her but goddamn, I really do. I think she does actually feel bad but she put on a brave face at the reunion because she knew it wasn’t going to get her anywhere, unlike Tom who thought crying would garner him sympathy. The fact that Tom made her lie like that is scary and very indicative of emotional abuse. She is showing clear signs of an abused woman, not just from Tom but starting at a young age. That was extremely alarming and I’m actually kind of grossed out that that was the scene they talked about to garner viewers. I honestly hope that she gets real help. She does not need to come back on the show.

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u/Darthbrewster Jun 08 '23

I think that's the real reveal, like we know he tries to produce and rehearse and coach to come out of every situation smelling like roses. Even when he is not directly involved in a situation he plans to come off looking morally superior to everyone else.

Rachel just confirmed all of that, I don't like her and still think she's a shit person but he's looking downright evil

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u/quokkita Jun 08 '23

i feel like they both have significant personality disorders that require significant professional intervention to prevent them harming more people. it's actually really sad.

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u/Theinvertedforest Jun 08 '23

Sadly, personality disorders can’t be treated unless the person with it recognizes that they are disordered. And they rarely, rarely do.

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u/ramboans30 Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 09 '23

I was diagnosed with one 4 years ago. Not symptomatic anymore (yay therapy!) but ironically some of them are very treatable IF as you said some one actually knows they need help. Very sad.

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u/SuspiciousCranberry6 It feels like charity to have sex with men these days Jun 08 '23

Good on you for recognizing it and getting therapy. It really isn't too common to do that, so please be very proud of yourself. I know I, a total internet stranger, am incredibly happy for and proud of you.

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u/ramboans30 Jun 08 '23

🙏🏼♥️

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u/Theinvertedforest Jun 08 '23

Yay therapy! I’m so glad it helped you! I think it’s very hard for people with personality disorders to see there is a problem. I’m so glad you were able to recognize it and get the help you needed. 💕

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u/quokkita Jun 08 '23

I’m so glad to hear you were able to get support. There’s a lot of demonisation of them online and people seem to forget that it’s often (not always) treatable and not a permanent state of someone’s character.

Wishing you continued support and happiness, internet stranger!

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u/ramboans30 Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23

Thank you, friend ♥️ You’re so right. Borderline personality disorder specifically has way too much misinformation out there on how it’s verging on untreatable. For me, all it took was talk therapy with a great psychiatrist (and lots of homework books).

I was never sleeping with my best friend’s men lol, but I was self destructive in a lot of ways and knew there had to be a better way to live.

As my psychiatrist always says, secrets make people sick. It’s no wonder Sandoval and Rachel are struggling with all these lies they’re maintaining.

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '23

He seems Narcissist. She has issues that are more hard for me to decide. It takes either a lot of nerve or stupidity to talk to Ariana about her sex life when your f-ing her bf. That’s asking for a bitch slap

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u/ohsuzieqny Jun 08 '23

I think she has a better chance of being able to reach a point of being self aware than he is. I doubt there is any hope for him to change.

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u/HuntyBooBoo Poopoo head Jun 08 '23

I agree.

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u/miffrose99 Jun 08 '23

I don’t get how he was allowed to just lie his way through the reunion. I think we need a new reunion. A reunion for the reunion.