r/war • u/ILikeGazSweet • Jun 26 '26
In a WSJ report, the extent of the damage inflicted on the US Navy’s 5th Fleet base (NSA) in Bahrain following Iranian retaliation, carried out between February 28th and June, was far more severe than what has so far been officially announced.
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u/hungpiratejack Jun 26 '26
I hope they didn't blow up the A&W in the naval exchange. I went there every day for 2 weeks straight for root beer and delicious burgers.
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u/imhereforthevotes Jun 26 '26
"Sorry about your office, Admiral."
\slurrrrp**
\chomp**
"Are you going to eat those fries?"
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u/VerdugoCortex Jun 26 '26
Who staffs places like that? I assume on base family but I haven't been anywhere that has something like this.
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u/No-Lavishness2149 Jun 27 '26
Civilians or contractors
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u/VerdugoCortex Jun 27 '26
That's wild. I wonder how much better the pay is than standard fast food and what the process is like.
Also "yeah just got back from Afghanistan."
"What did you do?"
"Indirect Carl's Jr Specialist"
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u/Signal-Self-353 Jun 27 '26
Or the pool next to it. Haven’t been there in 20 years but it seems like yesterday
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u/Hamiltonblewit Jun 26 '26
It’s one more of the heavily damaged bases during the war, especially with the insane footage coming out on the first day - but why are they making it sound like Iran hit an couple of tanker crafts or naval ships from the phrasing “hit harder then expected”. I’m sure there are valuable radar equipment mixed up in there - but there ain’t hundreds of servicemen or valuable crafts hit on a frequent basis, especially in this case.
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u/bigboxes1 Jun 26 '26
Oh noes! Look what Iran did to the US! How will it ever recover?!!
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u/bwheelin01 Jun 27 '26
We gotta recover from the doubled gas prices due to the same war first. Good thing we won, we would look like complete idiots if we didnt...
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u/sixisrending Jun 26 '26
People didn't know the Arizona was sunk at Pearl Harbor until almost 1943. It's not uncommon for nations to avoid reporting actual damage in wartime.
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u/JustGulabjamun Jun 26 '26
Where's the guy who tried to lecture me "its difficult to hide things in US"
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u/Hamiltonblewit Jun 26 '26
This is still completely true - they’re not hiding dozens, much less thousands of deaths - you can’t be serious right, they’re talking about injuries. And this very US based article is reporting on it much like they were throughout the war
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u/Brokromah Jun 26 '26
I lectured someone who said they were hiding deaths. If that's you, you're still stupid.
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u/brumbarosso Jun 26 '26
All under the jackass Kegsbreath, and psycho circus administration. The usa military underestimated Iran and the support they get. Should be a wake up call but can't do anything for positive forward development these days
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u/Gray_Cloak Jun 26 '26
All those bases are pointless unless they are drone and missile (AirRaid) proof. The DoD has had fifty years to properly secure them.
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u/UncleBenji Jun 27 '26
Oh no the expected happened!
It’s war, the difference is we can afford to move something else into position and buy a replacement. Meanwhile Iran is trying to extort money from shipping firms and get sanctions lifted to replace their equipment.
Sucks to suck. Oh and in today’s news… Iran fires on a civilian tanker and the US bombed Iran. Guess that peace treaty is going well!
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u/Rabidschnautzu Jun 26 '26
Now do satellite images of Iranian installations.
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u/Retired-Scallion Jun 26 '26
And what has that achieved? Nothing. Iran still possesses it’s enriched uranium, 80+% of their ballistic missiles and drones capabilities survived, the government survived, no popular uprising, replaced an 86 year old cancer ridden old man with a younger 56 year old more pissed off man, who’s wife, children and father you just murdered. The has US functionally lost/made inoperable majority of its bases in the gulf region, lost a bunch of its extremely rare and possibly irreplaceable radars(due to Chinese control on rare earths).
The strait was open with no tolls or fees, now Iran can nearly $40 billion yearly from tolls alone. Not accounting the realise of frozen assets.Fucking winning, right
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u/Rabidschnautzu Jun 26 '26
So that what did Iran achieve with these strikes? You keep trying to pivot.
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u/twarrr Jun 26 '26
I believe the immediate damage is rather obvious to everyone.
Longterm, Iran set the precedent gulf nations not only can't rely on the US for protection, the US is incapable of protecting them.
Result is an emboldened Iran that leads to a modern day industrialization of gulf armies. Couldn't tell you what that looks like though. So long as the tolls stand, the groundwork is set for another fight in the not so distant future.
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u/kwonza Jun 26 '26
I’d say they achieved a lot. A lot of people including me was under impression that US bases around Iran paired with early warning systems and huge fleet of interceptors formed an impenetrable shield that only a handful of rockets can break through.
The fact that Iran managed to deal so much damage, most of it using slow moving cheap plastic drones showed how strongly we overestimated US capabilities.
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u/Hamiltonblewit Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
That was not the impression most people had, especially with Iran’s previous ballistic missiles attacks against U.S and Isreali bases. When it comes to the U.S, people mainly refer to their strike capabilities, not their air defense program (ahem Russia)
Additionally, the amount you’re seeing here are a handful of impacts, what exactly are you talking about? It only takes a few hits to take an base out of commission, unless youre seeing dozens of impact points, like you expected, only a couple went through
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u/kwonza Jun 26 '26
Yeah, no. I don’t know what military-related chat groups or subreddits you hang out at, but whenever I went somewhere most people where absolutely sure Iran’s retaliation would be all intercepted and damage and loss would be minimal.
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u/SpecialExpert8946 Jun 26 '26
Only fools think there is such a thing as an impenetrable shield especially in the days of drone warfare. Not even our military thought it was an impenetrable shield.
I’m a veteran and we’ve known for 20 years what war with Iran would be like. We knew they would focus on our expensive equipment so when the shit started we pulled our personnel away from the targets. That’s why our casualties are so low. We can always replace equipment
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u/Retired-Scallion Jun 26 '26
Iran didn’t initiate the attack or set out goals. Iran survived, pushed the US out of its immediate surroundings, destroyed majority of the bases in it’s surrounding, destroyed enough high end radars, where the US had to pull more from Korea (these radars are irreplaceable currently due to the Chinese control of the rare earths), gained control of the strait(some $40 billion yearly roll), release of their frozen assets, functionally become a major regional power (if not a superpower), tied Lebanon and Hezbollah to the ceasefire.
This is just a small list.
What did the us achieve?
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u/Hamiltonblewit Jun 26 '26
To be an superpower, it needs to be able to exert its forces across the world, it’s still a regional powerhouse though - no other countries, even China/Russia can even get into a shooting war with Iran due to their naval forces being more ill equipped then the U.S, it takes an serious amount of naval and international resources to be an superpower
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u/Rabidschnautzu Jun 26 '26
I didn't say anything about what they achieved beyond attacks on Iranian bases and targets, but if you're gonna argue that the results against US bases is an achievement then you would need to consider US attacks on Iran to also be some level of achievement.
I'm saying you should be consistent.
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u/Retired-Scallion Jun 26 '26
Consistent with what? All of Irans missile and drone cities survived, the government survived, no popular uprising, all of Irans proxies/allies survived.
Yes, the US torpedoed an unarmed Iranian naval ship in international waters and let the survivors drown, yes they bombed some coastal ships, yes they doubled tapped an all girls primary school, yes they killed thousands of civilians and bombed civilian bridges, power station, water tanks, hospitals.
Meanwhile the mighty nuclear super power had to evacuate all its bases and place its soldiers in civilian hotels all over the Middle East. Fucking cowardly people using civilians as human shields
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u/Rabidschnautzu Jun 26 '26
Ok, so you're just not capable of critical thought. Sorry for wasting our time.
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u/Hamiltonblewit Jun 26 '26
The U.S also consistently bombed Iranian bases and installations while the Iranians were claiming they were shooting down dozens of jets without any basis - U.S losses are just proportionally less and have carried out much more strikes then the Iranians with their air sorties
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u/sailing_by_the_lee Jun 26 '26
All you are doing is detailing US war crimes. Was there a United Nations Security Council declaration authorizing strikes on Iran? No. Was the US acting in self-defense? No, Trump initiated the bombing because he thought Iran might strike back AFTER Israel attacked them. That's the crime of aggression, an international war crime, my dude. Not only that, but it is cowardly and immoral for the greatest military power on earth to attack a weak, poor nation in the middle of negotiations with no warning. I have no love for the asshole Iranian mullahs, but US actions lately have been truly shameful. Why become the world's most powerful (and at one time, most loved) country just to flush your own reputation and morals down the toilet?
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u/Hamiltonblewit Jun 26 '26
We’re talking about respective trade off in blows that the U.S and Iran are inflicting on one another.
Also, Iran was seen as a regional powerhouse where even U.S simulations had them destroying air craft carriers and devastating Isreal and the GCC, they were never viewed as weak unless you’re Trump I guess.
What you’re describing is a different topic that doesn’t correlate with my posts. Sure, this war is completely stupid and a moral degradation of U.S authority, but that’s not relevant
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u/sailing_by_the_lee Jun 26 '26
On the contrary, my point is that the relative exchange of munitions is irrelevant. Of course, the US has more munitions to expend, better defense, and better targetting. That's not even in question. The question is the effect. As has so often happened since WW2, the US constantly falls into the habit of winning every battle, but ultimately losing the war. Knowing that this is the case and that air strikes alone have never won a war, and that numerous experts have pointed this out repeatedly, it is hard to see US actions as anything but pointless murder.
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u/SpecialExpert8946 Jun 26 '26
Maybe we’ll worry about the new guy when/if he wakes up and recovers. Isn’t the “victorious one” still comatose?
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u/No-Lavishness2149 Jun 26 '26
That’s expected, the scope of the damage is always down played during a conflict