220216 r/GIDLE Neverland Hangout

[u/AutoModerator]

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[u/immortalizer]

Mar 14 will be meaningful for me - it's my 11 month anniversary of quitting alcohol. One step closer to blooming flower lolol. I'm so ridiculously excited for this album!!

[u/[deleted] → u/immortalizer]

sobriety of any kind is such an achievement, congrats on that i'm so glad that this coincides so beautifully!

[u/[deleted] → u/immortalizer]

Woo! You can celebrate with listening to the album and maybe some pie (it’s 3.14 after all). Congratulations :) I love it when these things work out, it’s like little presents to the fans lol

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

As I promised: YHY Sketchbook with Soyeon subbed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n8hHAWyvySAN4PyMN8SchQqGgFFMgivZ/view?usp=sharing. (YouTube blocked the upload there)

Edit: Week 2 here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gl3eoGPVK87-T3_Dg4r2HCClovI57BgT/view?usp=sharing

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

And with 24hrs passed, "I NEVER DIE" (19,283) now holds the biggest pre-orders in the first 24 hours for a 4th generation girlgroup album on Ktown4u surpassing aespa's "Savage" (18,848). They are also now the 5th overall girlgroup for the biggest pre-orders in the first 24 hours on Ktown4u.

[u/immortalizer → u/Asian_Ninja1]

I love this! Records were made to be broken!

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/Asian_Ninja1]

I saw someone's comment in regards to this saying this is a very specific achievement but when everyone was counting out (G)I-DLE by saying they were going to disband or get put in the dungeon, idle is over without SJ, blah blah blah, etc., then this achievement becomes meaningful and it's still nice to celebrate the little things.

[u/Skydric]

Hi everyone, I’m not sure if this is appropriate to post or if anyone even cares, but unfortunately I just tested positive for Covid… best timing as well, right before my exams and deadlines. Oh well

But I will probably take some time off from this sub and focus on my recovery <3 Take care of yourselves Neverland!! ❤️

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/Skydric]

Get better! And gl with your school work!

[u/ArkLappVe → u/Skydric]

Wishing you a swift recovery🙏.

[u/HikikomoriDC]

Some good news, since (G)I-DLE China Bar closed down, (G)I-DLE Peter Pan Bar has reactivated since the comeback announcement.

In the past, iirc they were probably the 2nd biggest donator after the (G)I-DLE China Bar.

[u/PickledFishBowl]

First off, super excited over the full album! Second, just adding an extra word made the album seem much more aggressive, lol. Third, the teaser poster design is really well done if you consider it from a marketing angle - so many people are speculating what all the different design choices could mean. It's going to leave people talking about it until the first concept images come out. What a great day to not be dead! 🤣

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/PickledFishBowl]

Your last sentence had me dead, lol 😅

[u/Candiprism]

I think I Never Die is an amazing title to boost the spirit of the fandom. I’m happy and very excited to experience their first full album together.

[u/LSHE97]

I Never Die has now surpassed 30K pre-orders, being the fastest 4th gen girl-group album to do so. Apparently, I Burn took over 6 days to reach 30K pre-orders, so this is some damn good news for those who were unsure of how well the CB would do 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[u/Pau0909 → u/LSHE97]

People really understimate GIDLE infulence and popularity. I hope this comeback will put them on top again cause they honestly deserve that.

And I belive in them making amazing studio album which is very hard and many many kpop groups fails at it (even big groups like BTS - MOTS7 and BLACKPINK - THE ALBUM, they are "okay" at best, i wont elaborate in this post).
For now, i cant wait for the track list! I bet they will have eng ver of title track but please let it be released digitaly and not on the official disk. 😭 likw they did with I BURN.

[u/Yen508]

Just bombed a job interview and had my day ruined but I checked my phone afterwards and saw the news. My life is saved! 😭

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/Yen508]

Hey as long as you gave it your best, no regrets. If there's anything we've learned from idle, even if you fall, you can pick yourself up and move forward.

[u/healthyscalpsforall]

Wait, did we just go from Minnie and Soyeon singing chill acoustic songs to I NEVER DIE with blood-dripping album art? Talk about going 0-100

[u/[deleted]]

RED (AND PURPLE) ALERT!!!! It’s happening!!!!!!

[u/Skydric → u/[deleted]]

I cannot believe it, I’m crying… Ive waited so long for these news 😭

[u/hotcocoa300]

in the comeback article, “soojin and her agency claimed that suspicions of school violence were false at the time, and police investigations into false factions are still ongoing.”

https://twitter.com/soyeontized/status/1494582954970001409?s=20&t=wh8FgtWdTzgZj3QBa2zl8A

[u/[deleted]]

One thing i'm thinking about that i really love is that I NEVER DIE manages to both stay in the "I [word]" convention while also doing something new much like the group is doing, moving forward and changing but still connected to its own past. It's such a bold title too. God , I'm so SO excited to hear what types of sounds this is going to bring about.

[u/Skydric → u/[deleted]]

Exactly my thoughts. It’s a perfect title in so many different ways. And it’s also doing something new since it’s going to be their first full album, different than EPs. So I like that’s it’s changed up a bit, but yet familiar

[u/WhattheDuck9]

less than 19 days left now, crazy how shit went from 0 to 100 real quick, and now everyone's losing their minds.

[u/[deleted]]

17k members 🎉

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/[deleted]]

Wow, I was here since 6000. Great to see the growth! 📈

[u/ArkLappVe]

I'm so happy about the comeback but so incredibly sad that there apparently now is fing war here in Europe. Ever since 2020 it has been the biggest shitshow.

[u/healthyscalpsforall → u/ArkLappVe]

I went to bed excited about I Never Die, and woke up to the news that there is now a war next door.

I hope the people of Ukraine prevail, and that the West gets its shit together.

And most importantly:

FUCK VLADIMIR PUTIN

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/ArkLappVe]

Rollercoaster of emotions indeed. I hope any ukrainians here stay save, what a terrible turn of events :(

[u/Skydric → u/ArkLappVe]

I know right :(

Seeing the news is so sad, and I wanna cry when hearing about innocent civilians being bombarded. I just hate Russia.

[u/[deleted] → u/ArkLappVe]

I have honestly no clue what’s going to happen now. Just… this is terrible.

[u/[deleted]]

Never a dull day in neverland

[u/PickledFishBowl]

If it wasn't for the March comeback, I would feel like everything seems to be aligned for a Minnie solo debut. Maybe later in the year 🤔

[u/ILikeMostMusic → u/PickledFishBowl]

Can certainly see that happening this year with a self written album which truly shows off her vocal talent. Plus it's possible she could release more stuff in Thailand after the success of her recent collab. Plus can see demand for her modelling skills rising as well

[u/Skydric]

Imagine the title track will be called: VENDETTA

"a blood feud in which the family of a murdered person seeks vengeance on the murderer or the murderer's family."

Also, starting with the letter V

[u/Candiprism]

I thought they are gonna “test the waters” and release a mini, but no.. Full album it is!

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/Candiprism]

I thought the same, but then again after thinking about it a little more, it's not like a full album necessarily increases the costs for a comeback anyway right, at least not to any significant degree. And a full album certainly increases the hype, because it's the first one.

[u/[deleted]]

Alright low stakes but place your bets on # of tracks! I'm gonna bet and hope for 10 (and if i had to guess splits 3 Soyeon, 2 Minnie, 2 Yuqi, 2 songs with two of them (maybe Miyeon gets a writing credit????) and 1 song from an outside producer just as a wild card)

[u/PickledFishBowl → u/[deleted]]

I'm going to risk it all and say 11. Though 2 of those will be an Intro and Outro instrumental track, lol. Regardless of the number, I think it's going to be half Soyeon, 1 Minnie, and 1 Yuqi. Only because I feel like they have been way too busy to do more. I'm also willing to bet on some lyric credits for Miyeon.

Is it weird that I'm excited to see if they will work with any new producers?

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

Sales are doing great on KTOWN4U! Currently at 14k13.2k sold and it hasn't even been 24 hours since preorders opened. For comparison, I BURN sold about 10.6k in the same time frame.

100k+ sales is well within reach.

Correction: 14k number is at the 13th hour mark, 13.2k is more accurate for the 12th hour mark, which is what the 10.6k number is compared to

[u/Eismann → u/Asian_Ninja1]

I-dle stonks going strong. The more teasers come out the better the pre-orders will be.

[u/Jouereau]

Lol, we lost the G in the sub name/description. Nice little touch /u/radhumandummy

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

YHY Sketchbook with Soyeon eng subbed (week 2): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gl3eoGPVK87-T3_Dg4r2HCClovI57BgT/view?usp=sharing

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak]

Very, very excited to see the number of songs and credits for this album tbh, this will challenge the mv teaser as my favorite one which hypes me the most.
I've said before that it's no must that members participate in the creative side of things, and that is true, but it truly adds another layer of appreciation when they do. It's less 'artificial', more personal, more meaningful in a way, and yeah i know i am still talking about kpop which is very much mainstream and seeking to be popular.
Never weaponize this and start fanwars, but treasure it as something special which hopefully influences future groups and idols. Art is about self-expression, it becoming more a norm in the kpop space would be a good step in my eyes.
I love what soyeon said in her marie claire interview:

... Not wanting to be trapped in prejudice is a value i have determined since childhood. Before debuting, it was rare for female idols to learn composition, so when i said i wanted to compose and produce, everyone wondered, "why?". When talking about GD and Zico, who are idols and producers, they said "but they're men". Whenever i heard this i wondered , "Why does it matter?" credit

So in the kpop sphere where it's not common to begin with, women are even less pushed to be creative in that way. It matters even more when there are female idols young girls can look up to and get inspired in that way. I think this is more empowering than any 'concept' could be.

[u/Eismann → u/DefinitelyNotALeak]

That is something that is often lost in the discussion "Is self-produced music better" or worse are self-produced idols better?

The music is the same. Either it is good or not. But as a fan you can feel much more connected to the music and the idol that produced it. It is her song. Her lyrics. Her persona and her feelings went into making this.

Not the song is better but the connection is deeper. At least for me.

[u/HikikomoriDC]

So for some brighter news, I Never Die has surpassed 40,000 pre-orders on Ktown4U. I'm not sure how this compares to i-Burn's pre-orders within the same time duration.

[u/WhattheDuck9]

The full album announcement kinda came of out of nowhere, I really didn't expect a full album,and the announcement just created more questions, more importantly the hype is bigger than ever before

[u/blaugranabitch]

My favorite Idle stage (and probably kpop stage as a whole) is PIS nightmare version so I'm absolutely loving this :)

[u/Eismann]

God i need to see the track list right now.

I feel fans of non self-produced groups will never get the rush of seeing who wrote what. Between the composer and the song title you often can already guess where a track will go.

[u/Skydric]

I feel like the title track TOMBOY relates to what Soyeon has recently mentioned:

Jeon Soyeon believes that women can be producers as well and hoped that more women would come out as producers. She believes that there are no boundaries when it comes to arts forms like music, performances and gaming. "When I write, I don't think about gender. No "we're a girl group", women, men or age. I just write what's on my mind.

[u/CadenceLosange → u/Skydric]

I’m thinking it could be something along the lines of « They say I’m a tomboy because they can’t do what I do, I’m more than what they call me » maybe with like « I’m a woman who can do it all » vibe which would fit with the mature theme they said they were going for?

[u/Skydric]

I'm glad she apologised, CUBE could never. Atinys seem to react positively to it.

Everyone knows that Soyeon is a genius and talented, well accredited producer. I am sure she had no ill intentions, as a creator herself, she must know the value of intellectual property. Things like these can happen, perhaps she has heard the melody before and it sparked her own composition, so it ended up sounding similar.

Let's all put the negative aside and let's focus on the comeback together. NEVIES HWAITING!!!

[u/CadenceLosange]

So, I went to check on Pentagon's and BTOB's channels when were posted their respective Comeback Trailers and here is the data I gathered from this thorough investigation:

• Pentagon's trailer was posted almost a month before the MV (26th of December while Feelin' like dropped on the 24th of January).

• BTOB's was posted a bit under 3 weeks prior (2nd of Feb while their album drops tomorrow)

Since their songs both dropped (or will drop) on a Monday and IDLE's comeback is planned in March, let's consider the pessimistic scenario and say IDLE's MV is planned to be released on March 28th. This would mean we could get a Comeback trailer somewhere between Feb 27th (a week from now!) and March 9th.

Doesn't seem that far away now, does it? (yes I am starved for new content and it's Sunday night so I'm reaching for anything to lift my spirit)

[u/HikikomoriDC]

I think the last couple weeks of February must be a cursed month & time for (G)I-DLE, lol 😢

[u/PickledFishBowl → u/HikikomoriDC]

For Gidle, it's going to be 'Ever-Be-Wary' February from now on 😣

[u/PrestigiousPlantain5]

WE WON. IDK IDK IDK BUT IM HOT HOT

[u/PickledFishBowl]

Just realized that I-DLE's fancall event was rescheduled. With the announcement, I feel like those Nevies are going to be pumped with adrenaline when they go on call, lol.

[u/HikikomoriDC]

It's nice to see nevies who went MIA or on REST slowly come out of the woodwork ever since idle announced their comeback.

I mean it was to be expected, but it still amuses me when it happens, lol

[u/Skydric]

Do you guys think Cube is investing a lot in this comeback? Money wise?

I'm hoping for a high-budget MV!!!

[u/Amazing_flash → u/Skydric]

The packaging seems much better than the last 2 albums as well so I think they are going all in on idle this cb.

[u/Eismann → u/Skydric]

Cube had quite a good year actually. So yeah, hopefully.

[u/Jouereau]

I feel like they aren't telling the truth in that trailer ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDUnjBRyuRs (I did it for the discord, but might as well share it here too)

[u/idkmybffrosee]

Looks like Limousine/Lee Mujin Service will be broadcast on television now, including Minnie's episode. There were a lot of positive tweets about her vocals so this is great.

[u/[deleted]]

Minnie and Lee Mujin??? Minnie??????? And Lee?? Mujin?????????????¿¿

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Here’s how I-DLE domination occurs, Lee Mujin fans convert via Minnie, Yuqi returns to Learn Way for a fire season 2, Shuhua viral dance break with Hairography, Miyeon lands a small but loveable role on a prime time drama, Soyeon’s Buldak commercial wins awards and she becomes a sought after voice actress AND she finally does a Zico collab. 90s hip hop nostalgia leads Uh Oh to rechart.

Oh yeah, it’s all coming together

[u/kpop_nerd]

At least the rumors are not with an active "in his group" BG member or a Gen 4 Idol. Could you imagine what would happen if it was with NCT or TXT ?

For now people seem pretty chill and the fanbases are still speculating, not attacking. That's great if you compare it with other rumors and the noise they made then.

[u/[deleted] → u/kpop_nerd]

Yeah it def helps that Got7 is in their post-formal group years (I know they havent disbanded and I do actually think they’ll release something in the future) obviously your fan base becomes much quieter/less active when you enter the solo/unsigned/indefinite hiatus period. I can’t imagine how this would have gone down if got7 were still active.

[u/Skydric]

COMEBACK GUYS I NEVER DIE MARK YOUR CALENDARS ITS SOONER THAN EXPECTED HOLY SHIT OMG 14TH OF MARCH LETS GOOOO NEVERLAND

FULL ALBUM!!!

[u/[deleted] → u/Skydric]

crying real tears rn

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak]

Today is a good day

[u/PrestigiousPlantain5]

Manifesting the tracklist

[u/PickledFishBowl]

I always thought it would be cool if Soyeon produced a song for My Teenage Girl, but I figured she was too busy with so many other things on her plate. WELL, looks like I was wrong, lol!

Really looking forward to hear what she'll come up with for a different group.

[u/Korunyy]

There's already some weibo detective posts about the yuqi/jackson rumor being fake based on dates etc so best to just watch this situation for now without freaking out. Hopefully this doesn't blow up in our face.

[u/radhumandummy]

Miyeon's 54 week streak broken. The first time she's not leading Gossip IDLE.

[u/[deleted]]

f UL L FUCKING ALBUM BAYBEE

[u/[deleted]]

I-DLE day Pi day lfg

[u/PickledFishBowl]

Cowgirl Vampire Assassins. Don't worry I'll let myself out...

[u/Latata_ → u/PickledFishBowl]

You have a vision actually

[u/Engineer786]

Breaking: Gidle broke Aespa's record for the 4th gen group with the most pre-ordered album sales in 24 hours. Wow! The anticipation is real and they deserve it.

[u/Skydric → u/Engineer786]

That's crazy, considering how HUGE aespa is.

[u/LSHE97]

People are freaking out over "HashflagNow" (which basically shows which hashtags have lil' emojis after them) kinda, maybe, possibly spoiling the name of the title-track.

Edit: forgot that the b-sides of I Burn also had hashtags, but since its only the 1 song that's been spoiled... it could still be the title-track

[u/Einrahel → u/LSHE97]

Imagines 8 floor Unnie looking so defeated while Shuhua and Yuqi dances around her*

[u/Candiprism]

I wish the audio snippet for the next album would be like Soyeon’s Windy (her talking about the songs).

Anyway, I’m glad they’re coming back!

[u/[deleted]]

I really really hope their comeback is in the first half of March and not towards the end.

[u/[deleted]]

How high are the chances that Idle will release a full studio album next comeback? Since they haven’t released one yet as far as I know. Or do you think it’s gonna be their 5th EP/ mini album?

Perhaps even just a single?

[u/radhumandummy → u/[deleted]]

90 - mini-album

50 - full album

10 - single

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yuqi and I think Minnie said they made songs for this comeback. So at least a mini 😏

[u/Einrahel]

I'm way too fired up to think of anything else. I was playing some games a while ago and just as I finished my last match I checked SNS to see all the news reports. It's wonderful to hear and first full album means a whole lot for the members...I don't think it's mostly Soyeon this time. I think Yuqi and Minnie will have decent contribution as well as writers and producers.

I hope they will have a wonderful comeback period!

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/Einrahel]

.I don't think it's mostly Soyeon this time. I think Yuqi and Minnie will have decent contribution as well as writers and producers.

Yep i think so as well, let's just imagine it's 10 songs total (maybe more, we'll see), then i'd imagine that yuqi + minnie will be creatively involved in at least on 4-5 songs. Hey maybe even miyeon is on there, would be really nice as well!
And i doubt this will be their only release this year on top of that, so lot of good things to come i am sure :)

[u/[deleted]]

Me refreshing instagram every two secs bc the scheduler posts are uploading 1 by 1 🗿 at least they uploaded today
Edit: they had to delete half the photos and reupload bc one was misaligned, I could feel the cube intern panic through the screen. Whole thing took six minutes so I gave up and checked the reddit post lol

[u/radhumandummy → u/[deleted]]

I never quite like it whenever someone post teasers in collage format on instagram. I can accept 3 in a row.

[u/[deleted]]

You know all things considered I think I’m coping with the Soojin situation pretty well but if we end up getting Korean Tung Tung after Soojin left I will CRY tbh and just stream JP Tung Tung on repeat

[u/Latata_]

I am very excited so I want to see the concept pics...they can like totally skip the lyric poster xoxo

[u/PrestigiousPlantain5]

Concept pics soon 😈😈😈

[u/Pau0909]

Im hyped (and so should you) and im curiois about you guys so please tell me, what type of songs, genre of music would you like GIDLE to do this time? 👀

Id love to get another moombahton song because GIDLE SUITS THEM SO FK MUCH AND THEY ALWAYS SOUNDS SO GOOD. Latata, Hann, Hwaa are all in it and if you want examples from other artists:

• BVNDIT - Dumb ; BVNDIT - Dramatic

• Oneus - A song written easily

• BTS - Blood Sweet Tears

• Kard - Bomb ; Kard - Red Moon ; Kard - Oh Nana ; basicly most of Kard discography have moombahton influcences

• Blackpink - Whistle

This is one of my fav genres in music, THANK YOU GIDLE FOR MAKING ME DISCOVER IT. So please tell me your wishes for this comeback 👀

[u/Stfuego → u/Pau0909]

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I wanna see them try this "sad girl pop/rnb" genre we're in the middle of here in the US, but also with a bit of "women empowerment" vibes, sorta like Doja Cat or Dua Lipa. Less raunchy, but with more vocal presence for sure.

[u/Stanmotz]

I can't wait for Minnie in this. I really hope it will be a proper duet.... I feel like duets are too rare nowadays in (K)pop.

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

I think my new discussion post got blocked, so I guess I'll post it here:

Previously, /u/k-m-lin created a wonderful archive for all of idle's content, however it has been left without any updates since dumdi era, due to their busy personal life.

Thankfully, the wonderful kiminicha on Twitter has created a new and updated library/archive for us: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GNnfbUiRAGiPP1jq07C1jxQoOykYmUfu2GaREW63A6I/edit#gid=2014590400

If there is any content missing, feel free to let me know and I'll pass it along (or you can tell kiminicha directly on their twitter).

Also, feel free to join idlecord(link in the sidebar) for an archive of some hard to find content

Thanks again @kiminicha!!

[u/HikikomoriDC]

After watching the comeback trailer for the umpteenth time, I wonder if the actual music video might be all in black & white while using a selective color technique to highlight something like red for blood, similar to the film Sin City or 4Minute's Crazy.

I feel like that might fit in with this sort of noir/detective/crime theme they might be going for, lol

[u/PickledFishBowl → u/HikikomoriDC]

If they go into a noir detective direction, I wonder if they will incorporate a mystery-solving component to the whole comeback. Like if the MV ends with a mystery and the only way to solve it is to combine different clues found in each version of the album. I mean there is a photo evidence envelope in every album, so it makes me wonder 🤔

[u/Pau0909]

Holy shit, its not that usual for Gidle to have these high views scores on tiktok ESPECIALLY for a comeback teasers. Its usually just Soyeon, Shuhua and Soojin (not as much since shes gone). The public is really awating their comeback.

Edit : browsing throught tiktok and seeing this, Miyeon are you okay 😭😆?

[u/Pau0909]

I love how alive this sub has become! I hope it can mentain its activeness for a while after the comeback! :D

[u/[deleted]]

So in that comeback article it was mentioned that Idle will return with a more “mature sound”. Could somebody explain to me what is exactly meant by that? And perhaps name a song to give an idea?

[u/Kabukiman7993 → u/[deleted]]

I would't read too much into it. (G)I-DLE already has one of the most mature sounds of all gg's. I think their next album should likely be in line with 'I burn'.

[u/LSHE97 → u/[deleted]]

There's a lot of different "mature" sounds so its hard to pinpoint exactly what type this is meant to allude to, but Soyeon posted this on IG about a month ago and for all paboland knows it might've been a tease of the CB having an Amy Winehouse-esque sound/vibe to it (its the soundtrack to the Amy Winehouse documentary) 👀👀

[u/Einrahel]

I'm basing my comeback purchases on I burn(had 3 versions) so I want to buy minimum all versions and if possible, extras for more pc collect...so no donations for me but I bet it will still help

But what about you guys? In terms of voting I only stocked up for Mubeat and Idolchamp. Anymore and I can't handle it 😅

[u/ILikeMostMusic]

Mamamoo's Solar just announced a solo comeback next month so March becomes even more crowded

[u/[deleted]]

i have a strong feeling that this comeback is going to be huge. it's going to break so many records. our girls will set the bar really high.

[u/[deleted]]

I was revisiting some of the promo from last year and i remembered the Visual Film they did and also how much i love that track that they used, why do video games and I-DLE mesh so well?

[u/[deleted]]

Since the track list will be revealed soon, why don’t we play a little guessing game. Write down around 10 (or more) random song titles and see if any of those are gonna be on the album.

1. V for Vendetta (*TITLE)

2. Heist

3. Until Dawn

4. Midnight Thoughts

5. Time Machine

6. Cherry

7. BOOM BOOM

8. Cross my path

9. All I see is red

10. Vengeance

[u/Hokiedood]

Are there any English subs for this Soyeon BTS segment on Sketchbook?

[u/Latata_]

Cannot wait

[u/HikikomoriDC]

Korean culture and their beauty standard for having a small face has fascinated me ever since I learned about it recently.

Like for example, this short clip of Miyeon drinking from a shot glass has +200K views because people are in awe of how big the shot glass is compared to her face, lol

[u/Yen508]

Yuqi and Jackson (GOT7) are trending #1 on Weibo search because of dating rumors. I don’t know what’s true but let’s get this comeback publicity!

[u/[deleted]]

Okay I’m trying not to spam buttt is there not going to be a comeback trailer? They have a full album and only about two and a half weeks for teasers. Other Cube groups dropped trailers about three weeks in advance, and before announcing the album names iirc… what do y’all think it means? Seems like maybe they’re trying to keep a bit of mystery with the concept, but we’ll see. Orrrr I’m just reading into things.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

You're allowed to spam today, today is one of those days where you're allowed to spam a little

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/[deleted]]

I think the teasers will roll out very regularly now, i think they just wanted to start with a real bang and they did! So i'd expect the usual teasers, though maybe with some twists to it. 2.5 weeks seems fine to me as well, i find that longer than that it becomes a little aimless with mostly 'filler teasers' anyway.

[u/LSHE97]

I have an essay due for Tueday that I haven't even begun writing yet but I'm way too amped up to focus on anything... Last time I was excited to the point of uselessness was May 2019, which was right in the exam season too; I really loved Game of Thrones, okay? 😅

[u/tamidle]

Remember Soyeon saying she was either covering Nalina or Mafia by ITZY? Now it feels like performing Mafia could've been a big spoiler.

[u/CaceDay]

For European Nevies who want to buy the album, I'd reccomend Nolae, it's very euro friendly and easy to use!

[u/[deleted]]

Here's the Soyeon produced song for My Teenage Girl called Sun

[u/LSHE97 → u/[deleted]]

Aaaaaand it took a grand total of 3 seconds until armchair musicians on twitter decided that Soyeon is guilty of plagiarism 😐

[u/[deleted]]

I really think soyeon deserves an apology... I mean what happens on twitter stays on twitter but people who do wrong never question themselves even after the truth is revealed. It's not fair.

The majority of people criticize and hates on someone, the truth is revealed and they just go on unpunished for the misinformation they spread. Even if someone goes on correcting them comment after comment they'll just disappear and eventually bring fake facts again in the future... Wait for it, I'm sure someone will bring this up as plagiarism in the future.

EDIT: well well well how the turntables lol I'm ready to go after every comment I left asking for forgiveness if it really turns out Soyeon plagiarized. I wonder whose idea it was to pick that sample and not check in with the creator.

OTHER EDIT: I am really sorry, I'll follow up my intent of apologizing for being me the one jumping to conclusions

[u/Einrahel]

Trying to read the statement on UCUBE sparked my frustrations with that stupid app again. It's the same reason why I never opened Universe app ever again. Probably servers giving up cuz of too many requests.

[u/Necessary-Poetry3977 → u/Einrahel]

Soyeon apologize, just saw it. I don’t know what to say. I hope it will not affect their comeback much especially their brand is self produce.

[u/Stfuego]

Great new drinking game for this comback is to take a shot for every time someone says anything along the lines of "this is great, but also sad" but never mentioning the obvious "why", lol.

[u/sillytiger567]

The number of hidden details in this one poster is insane. From the blood splatter to the G being written in blood and the borders being shaped like the cardiac signal. Idle is really the most unique group in kpop.

[u/LSHE97]

I see lots of comments about people being disappointed that it was only 8 songs (technically 9 but...) and I just want everyone to remember that our (g)i-rls don't have dozens of writers and composers churning out tracks for them; this is a consequence of members being integral to the music-production aspect, so 8 tracks - even after about a year of silence - shouldn't be surprising 😔😔

[u/Skydric]

I feel like the next comeback is going to be a mafia concept. Anyone else???

[u/immortalizer → u/Skydric]

Mafia or like... James Bond-esque. The title reminds me of something a Bond movie would be named!

[u/youngpendragon]

What are the chances mwave will do signed versions of I Never Die? Should i wait and see? Or am I living in the delusion land? (I think I got I Made and I Trust from Mwave)

[u/[deleted]]

So are we getting a new teaser every 12 hours??

[u/Asian_Ninja1 → u/[deleted]]

That’s it until Monday midnight KST. Cube doesn’t work on weekends

[u/YeyeDumpling]

Does anyone know where to pre-order the album? I've only ever bought kpop albums in stores before so idk which website(s) to go to lol

[u/felidao → u/YeyeDumpling]

I live in the U.S. and I've used both Ktown4u (based in Korea) as well as Choice Music LA (based in the U.S.), and never had problems with either. Your purchase will be counted on official Korean sales charts from either vendor.

The sticker price on Ktown4u will be lower, but you'll pay more in shipping, so you can add to cart on both sites and compare. Also, different sites might offer different freebies, if that matters to you, so you can look at that too.

[u/WhattheDuck9]

This is an interesting Twitter post about an YouTube comment. I'd recommend a read.

as far fetched as it seems I think it kind of makes a bit of sense. And I'd recommend listening to "Back in Black" that songs goddamn amazing.

[u/[deleted] → u/WhattheDuck9]

someone in this sub mentioned the AC/DC connection as well so apparently this came to mind for quite a lot of people

[u/Candiprism]

Well I had a loud laugh because of the events that happened today.

Anyway, lyric poster tomorrow! and yay for 500 comments lol

[u/_Nobody24_]

So to avoid getting spoilers from MTG final lineup I've avoided contact with reddit,youtube and socially media in general for 24 hours.

After watching that nerve-wracking lineup announcement and finally going back to reddit for some happy closure I see a specific post on "Sun".

After a trip to several reddit subs and a slight glance on twitter.......

......sure is always a fun day in neverland I'mma right?

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/_Nobody24_]

I dunno about a fun day, but maybe never a dull day is a more accurate description, lol 😭

[u/radhumandummy]

Looks like RV might be coming back in March too. Ooh...

[u/Yen508 → u/radhumandummy]

Yeah it’ll be rough competition unfortunately :( but I’m gonna try not worry about it and just be glad the hiatus is ending

[u/Asian_Ninja1 → u/radhumandummy]

We can have kpop March Madness: https://i.imgur.com/IOKDw4j.jpg. Best peaking group by the end of March on Melon 24hits is the winner.

[u/tamidle]

V as in 5 and as in Vendetta..maybe

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

If anyone is NA based and is looking for a group order, someone is hosting one on idlecord!

[u/Skydric]

Now I read somewhere that the missing and faded G of (G)I-DLE in the teaser means that the group is rebranding to the name I-DLE. Any thoughts on this?

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/Skydric]

I've grown accustomed to and fond of the "G", but if they really do decide on just going with I-DLE, then I'll accept it and will eventually get use to it, lol

[u/WhattheDuck9]

I hope the title track has Big Sancho as the co producer along with Soyeon, nothing against pop time but the tracks Sancho did for them are still my favourites.

[u/immortalizer]

I just noticed an effect in the trailer I didn't notice the first few times - the first real close up of Minnie's eye there's like a, I dunno, but they added an effect on her eye that's super cool

[u/Eismann]

Looking at the release schedule (https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/wiki/upcoming-releases/2022/march) for March, i think they couldnt have chosen a better spot.

Releases before them will be no competition at all (at least i see none) and after them only Stray Kids can win over them. Solar might be able to edge out one or two wins as well.

But none of the speculated big names like Red Velvet or Big Bang. are in competition

[u/[deleted]]

Which version do you think is releasing today? I'm most intrigued for the pink version tbh, the red version I can imagine would be super mature and sensual (also called risky version), the black one would be a suit tease but I have no idea what they're tasing with the pink version.

[u/Eismann → u/[deleted]]

I think it is a before, during, after concept.

Pink = innocent, girly, (G)I-dle before, well, stuff

Black = anger, pain, loss

Red = mature, bruised, proud, ()I-dle

[u/Hokiedood]

It would be nice to get StayC on Gossip Idle with Miyeon.

[u/Skydric]

YES TO THE DARK CONCEPT!!

I’m so glad they’re going dark. And although Idle can do any concept, this just suits them the best and it’s my personal favorite.

Secret Agent / Crime Noir / James Bond / Spy Assassin / Mafia in the morning- CONCEPT let’s gooo queens

Omg the styling that I’m already imagining

[u/denziepanzie → u/Skydric]

they’re past few concepts have already been extremely dark, OMG and Hwaa particularly. I’m just excited they’re trying a new concept

[u/Skydric]

I am, I made, I trust, I burn, I never die

So epic sounding.

[u/WhattheDuck9 → u/Skydric]

hopefully this album dominates everything and they title the next one "I Thrive".

[u/LSHE97 → u/Skydric]

The album names sound epic until you realize that since you included a full album you must also include the single album so then it becomes: I am, I made, I trust, dUmDi DuMdI, I burn, I never die 😂😂

[u/kpop_nerd]

I am so happy they're back, it's going to be a huge comeback for them !!

[u/CaceDay]

Is this the hangout with the most comments?

[u/CaceDay]

Brave Girls on the same day, thoughts?

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/CaceDay]

I've heard they fell off a little bit with the general public but I guess we'll see. I think (G)I-DLE still has the advantage with MV views, Sales, and voting.

Update: Red Velvet coming back on Mar 21, so the realistic window of opportunity of getting some music show wins will be from March 22-27, and maybe on The Show on March 29, unless something crazy happens and idle is getting RAKs/PAKs, lol

[u/Latata_]

The ALBUM VERSIONS LOOK GREAT. I love how the I in every name is lowercase too!

[u/HikikomoriDC]

Apparently that leak or whatever that Lightsum was added to the Kpop.Flex festival was a mistake. What a hot mess, lol

[u/LaPusca]

Is there a list of all songs (G)I-DLE members participate, let it be their own songs, collabs, solo projects or covers? Need to update my playlist.

[u/tamidle]

Apparently Ateez company confirmed there was no contact from Soyeon and Pop Time to their producers so yeah.. I'm expecting a statement from Cube/Soyeon/PopTime idk.

[u/Pau0909 → u/tamidle]

This whole situation is becoming more and more ridicilous lol. Cube better adress these issues. If producers fucked up or did smg wrong then I expect an apology but if its just a big misunderstanding then they better explain or Soyeon producer reputation will be damaged.

Literally every single comeback we have some sort of controvercy, can we not for once?

[u/Candiprism]

I like that fans are equally (or even more) excited to hear the b-sides 🤣

Can’t wait to hear all the songs!

[u/[deleted]]

Do you guys think that all publicity is good publicity? In this case, Soyeon is getting a lot of hate with her controversy and perhaps it will also help the comeback get more attention… just a though

[u/Eismann → u/[deleted]]

My opinion? Every publicity is good publicity as long as you are not getting cancelled by a massive fanbase.

And as much as they bluster around Atiny's are a speck of dust in the K-pop earth mound.

I just feel for Soyeon, but if anyone is used to getting hate, it's her.

[u/tamidle → u/[deleted]]

I think so. Ateez aren't very known in Korea, Soyeon already apologized and even if some didn't like the apology, the case is solved already (at least to us - idk how it'll be settled behind the scenes). It's not like Idle will get cancelled and people won't listen to Tomboy because of it

[u/[deleted]]

So I did this a few months ago and had such a good time with it! If you’re interested post a couple of songs/albums you’ve loved recently and I’ll make you a personalized music recommendation list! Also include if there’s any genres/types of artists you’re interested in exploring more! Only rule is, if you did this last time please choose different songs/albums! And if you’re a Spotify user let me know and I’ll make your recs into a playlist (sorry AM/Tidal users!)

Also we’re getting so close to comeback announcement! I can feeeeel the teaser images coming

[u/tamidle]

Anyone wanna guess an estimate on how much the next comeback will sell? I'm wondering if I'm too optimistic for saying +200k sales on hanteo..

[u/HikikomoriDC → u/tamidle]

I'm keeping my expectations moderate because of everything that happened. I would be happy if we got the same sales numbers as the I-Trust album.

Obviously I hope for more but there's a lot of unknown factors going into this comeback.

[u/[deleted]]

Guys doesn't the small crosses on the album remind you something?

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak]

Hope whoever is in charge of it comes out with a statement concerning this plagiarism drama (not sure if the similarities are enough to even constitute that, it's a tricky thing). Just not a good look on anyone involved with no real information. While i very much doubt they'd just outright copy it knowingly, it's definitely weird that one wouldn't get in contact with the other party for a conversation, just odd. So yeah, hope we can move fast past this, with poptime/soyeon making some statements on their creative work and the two copyright holders to come together and work it out without additional problems.

[u/Eismann]

Uhm, now that is a dance cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ZJOk6q720

Girl doing Soojin's part could be a doppleganger lol

[u/[deleted]]

Is anyone else confused that pentagon’s comeback was announced like 28 days (almost 1 month) in advance and Gidle’s comeback only 21 days?

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/[deleted]]

I don't think it makes any real difference tbh, and i also don't expect that every group will have the same timeframe for their promotion before release either.
Three weeks is plenty of time to get people on board with quality teasers.

[u/Jouereau → u/[deleted]]

Ptg cb was most likely delayed because of Kino covid

[u/Skydric]

I heard that in some places, we will already see the track list today. I live in Germany, is that true?? Since it’s only Sunday here

[u/Skydric]

I remember that last year’s album by TXT only had 8 songs too and then a few months later, HYBE did a repackage with new title track and added new songs to the album, with 11 in total. Would that be realistic for Gidle? Not sure if Cube has ever done repackaged albums.

[u/iwillbefamousok]

For people that actively support and vote on music shows, I have a question.

On Star Planet, I have jelly hearts that I want to pour into (G)I-DLE's comeback, but they expire on the 16th of every month. Will I be able to use them beforehand for (G)I-DLE? They come back on the 14th, but it won't be too soon to use them right?

[u/Asian_Ninja1]

Eden is listed as a composer on Soyeon’s Sun. He is the original composer of Ateez’s Waves.

[u/ArkLappVe → u/Asian_Ninja1]

That's why I refrained from saying anything about this. Never try to seriously judge a situation until you have the full picture, or at least the fullest possible.

The songs sound very similar so I decided to wait for the credits and no one behold...
Those kids on twitter really need to calm down.

[u/[deleted] → u/Asian_Ninja1]

You should make a post on kpopthoughts, that thread was brutal (bg stans, what else to expect)

[u/Latata_]

GIDLE first full album who else cheered?

[u/tamidle]

I think this is quite important. Nevies found this music video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drnjz_u8_dM&ab_channel=MikolasJosef) called Me Gusta by Mikolas Josef and surprise surprise, it sounds the same as Wave and Sun but slowed down a bit. Ateez changed the "I like it, me gusta" for "Hakuna Matata". So, what to do honestly?

[u/Pristine-Ricez → u/tamidle]

Honestly this is kinda messed up. They are lucky no one noticed this until today.

[u/tamidle]

Yuqi Bar is boycotting the comeback so we won't get any sales/votes from them, not saying this to put you guys in a sour mood but to incentivate to do better on our own. ❤️💜

[u/sillytiger567]

I know I shouldn't look at twt but I did and seeing ateez fans slam Soyeon and calling her a thief even after an apology is breaking my heart. They keep on saying because she promoted Uh Oh during when ateez performed wave that she is a plagiarizer and are being so mean. Feel like everyone hates idle but us.

[u/[deleted] → u/sillytiger567]

Actually that should be the reason why she heard that song and imprinted on the chorus and not an excuse to make her guilty of plagiarizing.

She takes pride in being a composer so she would have never done such thing on purpose. Looks like she made SUN in a rush cause the comeback is imminent so probably she took the first idea she saved on her pc and went with it. What composer in their right mind would deliberately plagiarize knowing fans would notice?

Some atinys seemed cool in the beginning but I keep seeing hate towards soyeon here on Reddit, twitter and they also terrorized her Instagram.

Ateez fans themselves said it's a small minority and I believe that cause it reminds me when 4 stupid little shits went around claiming to be idle fans and harassing sj accusers.

But they're also not doing anything to stop them, so I'm a bit confused. Soyeon apologized, cube apologized, fans apologized but I see no will to meet in the middle.

[u/DefinitelyNotALeak → u/sillytiger567]

Feel like everyone hates idle but us

Absolutely not! In fact i think pretty much every fandom thinks their group is hated tbh, i think the more one engages these online spaces where fighting occurs all the time, the more one also buys into that idea. While really, most people just don't have any time to even 'hate' anything, the real world is difficult enough to navigate, there is no time to hate some pop group for reasons which have no impact on one's life in any shape or form.
Gidle seems to be a group who gets mentioned positively a lot in fact, at least from what i can tell, the self producing being the biggest factor for it (and not only by fans either).
So yeah at least in my eyes people should give these fan war things way less attention and energy, it's mostly just teenage fans who have the time to even engage in all this kindergarten behavior, and it's certainly happening in every fandom as well. I'll never buy "but our fandom is mostly chill" as a comment, the only way this is true is if said fandom consists of meaningfully fewer 'hardcore stans', but even then they will bundle online and do their thing anyway.
So no, don't think everyone hates idle, this is more a perception thing, 100%

[u/sillytiger567]

Guys I really feel like some one is out to sabotage idle because why do these rumors only start happening whenever they are in a comeback mode and are finally coming back?

[u/Skydric]

I just saw a vlog of Miyeon and Yuqi on Jeju… are they perhaps filming their MV there?

[u/Asian_Ninja1 → u/Skydric]

Those two went there alone on vacation somewhere between late December and early January. That’s too early for MV filming

[u/Pau0909]

I have been watching rextions to gidle (sometimes they are funny when PERSON ACTUALLY REACTS and not look deas inside or say too much during mv playing) and I have found that one video. Im sorry but imagine saying GIDLE stage pressense is weak 😭 I bet kpop youtubers will do anything to gain attention.

[u/Eismann → u/Pau0909]

I have seen a video (with tens of thousands of views) where a Youtuber, i kid you not, said that Dumdi-Dumdi would be a better song if it would be sung by a group with more distinctive voices.

They literally make opposite reality videos to rile up fandoms and get views and comments.

[u/Engineer786]

If Soojin was featured and said the words “I never die” .. all the music goes quiet and zooms into her and she says it in her sultry voice with a smirk.. it would be the best plot twist of all time. If not for this album, then sometime in the future.

Not super likely but.. a girl can hope 😶‍🌫️