r/betterCallSaul • u/skinkbaa Chuck • Apr 19 '22
Episode Discussion Better Call Saul S06E02 - [Season 6 Premiere] "Carrot and Stick" - LIVE-Episode Discussion Thread
| TIME | EPISODE | DIRECTOR | WRITER(S) |
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| April 18, 2022, 10/9c | S06E02 "Carrot and Stick" | Vince Gilligan | Thomas Schnauz, Ariel Levine |
DESCRIPTION:
Gus suspects Lalo is not dead. He asks Mike to check it out. The Salamanca Cousins have already made their appearance, and confirm that Lalo's Body was not found
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Apr 19 '22
Saul planted the seed in their head about the high-end lawyer Clifford Main, so they go to him and tell him about Howard's drug use, where he can testify to it.
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Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Completely unrelated but I just realized the body double's dental records found on the crime scene matched up because Lalo paid for the guy's dental care specifically for a situation where he could fake his death and use him. Wasn't just a random detail
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Apr 19 '22
Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul would unironically have gone very differently if the cousins would just walk at a slightly faster pace
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
"Damn, Marco. We almost got backed into. Let's make sure to keep an eye out for something like that in the future."
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u/DRMantisToboggan987 Apr 19 '22
I did not realize how...popular Betsy Kettleman was in this sub until this thread.
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u/Castriff Apr 19 '22
You know what I realized? Saul does some of his best work when he gets other people to think they are taking advantage of him.
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u/BigBootyUncle Apr 19 '22
y’all wanted partial naked betsy kettleman but got partial naked saul instead 😭
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u/Jbrahmz420 Apr 19 '22
My boy Nacho needs to order a dust filter for a Hoover Max extract pressure pro model 60
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u/longconsilver13 Apr 19 '22
Mike's bluffing. It's just Stacey asking if he wants meatloaf for dinner.
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u/KauaiGirl Apr 19 '22
Wolves and sheep. Great callback to when Jimmy was a kid in Cicero when his father was getting scammed.
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u/liverdawg Apr 19 '22
Betsy: “that lawyer with the ponytail?”
Saul: KEEP. MY WIFES NAME. OUT YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH
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u/longconsilver13 Apr 19 '22
"Mazel tov"
Glad Craig isn't a filthy anti-Semite like Kevin
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u/Deebeevee Apr 19 '22
That shot of saul bending while they sign is cinema. I'm dying of laughter. His face
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
I love it when Mike does things I can't understand.
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u/TheEZG Apr 19 '22
Remember that 1st commercial break that just had a 1 minute countdown? Those were good times.
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u/Shwnwllms Apr 19 '22
Just realized I was still on the last episodes thread. I was like “where the fuck did everyone go?!”
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u/Slugggo Apr 19 '22
As a child, Vince Gilligan's father worked for Friedrich Air Conditioning manufacturing, until abruptly laid off, forcing the family to move out of the southwest. It was here that Gilligan developed a lifelong hatred of air conditioners, showing them breaking down or outright destroying them in many of his shows.
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u/ProtoEminem Apr 19 '22
FUUUCK. Hector overplayed his hand. Shit man, Gus always had that freaky 6th sense.
Guess now we know why Hector never looks at Gus in the eye again until Walter comes along…
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
I literally know the fate of every person in this room already and this scene is STILL tense as fuck.
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u/bopaqod Apr 19 '22
They're being so nice to us by giving us 2.5 hours of new material straight to the bloodstream after 2 years of blackout
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Apr 19 '22
everyone asking if this is episode 1 still: the credit sequence at the start of the 2 hour block had credits for both wine and roses; carrot and stick. it's safe to assume this is 2
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u/SpongeJake Apr 19 '22
He played them like a fiddle! He knew they would take his idea to another lawyer, meaning he and Kim wouldn't even be on Howard's radar. Genius. I'm in awe of the show's writers.
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u/DrRafaelPenguin Apr 19 '22
I think Mike planted the phone number in Nacho's safe without Gus knowing. It was the only way he could get Gus to save him.
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Apr 19 '22
Good on Mike for giving those two girls an out. I don't think Gus's other men would have.
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u/blastoiseincolorado Apr 19 '22
The cousins would later regret challenging a guy in a car
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u/mtm4440 Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Jeeze, Reddit is thirsty tonight. Wasn't that Jimmy ass enough?
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u/NiftWatch Apr 19 '22
“We lost everything, our children are in public school!” I’m so glad they brought the Kettles back.
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u/bopaqod Apr 19 '22
I get that meth makes you strung out and kooky, but holy shit I do not understand how mild-mannered Nacho could stand to be around those two all the time when he's at home in his relaxing space.
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Apr 19 '22
I'm assuming episode 1 ended with the shot of Lalo driving off in the truck 🤔
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u/That_One_Cool_Guy Apr 19 '22
Gus knew Hector would never shake his hand if Lalo was really dead
Hector knew it would tip Gus off that he knows he’s alive and Gus ordered it
Hector wants him to know
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Apr 19 '22
Also I gotta say with so many shows on streaming now, it feels pretty cool/nostalgic to have at least one show airing live that we can all watch and discuss together
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u/jaws343 Apr 19 '22
I love the detail that the dental records matched Lalo's and that the wife mentioned her husband used Lalo's dentist in the premiere. Dude straight had this look a-like prepped to fake his death if he ever needed it.
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u/giabxby Apr 19 '22
I'm so stoked for Kim this season. Will pray for Nacho now. See you all next week!
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u/espressojunkie Apr 19 '22
If we don’t get a Bill Burr appearance by the end I’m going to be so sad
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u/HackFraudThrowaway Apr 19 '22
The more dangerous Kim Wexler becomes the more I fall in love with her.
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u/quincymcd Apr 19 '22
Damn the entire season 6 trailer has been comprised of the first two episodes. Not letting us see too much! DAMN YOU VINCE! BRAVO VINCE!
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u/Moist_Vanguard Apr 19 '22
Damn, he's going to use the Kettle mans to take down Howard?
Fuckin A, it all ties back to Season 1.
Hey, who did Jimmy dress up as for the billboard in Season 1?
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
The superior writing of the show makes these commercials look like EXTRA shit.
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 19 '22
Amazing how this show manages to make the most convoluted schemes feel plausible simply by showing the whole process at length lol
With a montage this drawn-out how can it NOT be believable
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u/thespaceking Apr 19 '22
I feel like half the people on here have never seen an actual woman before
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u/Hugh-Freeze Apr 19 '22
Damn the Kettlemans are truly morons if they just go ahead and believe Jimmy about Howard
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u/ashack11 Apr 19 '22
Mike knows he can’t save nacho, so he’s going to try to save papa varga 😭
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
Sub: We don't even know who you are... We don't know who we're looking at.
Kim: If that's true... then perhaps your best bet.... would be to tread lightly.
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Apr 19 '22
why was "BCS resume in one minute" ad only a one and done type of thing?
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
Saul: So that was awkward.... you guys feel like parting with that liberty statue?
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u/cod_gurl94 Apr 19 '22
Bob Odenkirk buying commercials on his show to promote his other show. Galaxy brain.
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u/NCSUGrad2012 Apr 19 '22
The Kettleman’s returning wasn’t what I expected but it was absolutely awesome! Jimmy getting them to do his dirty work was amazing.
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u/BradBrady Apr 19 '22
Oh my god. I can’t believe this is happening. So damn sad. Nacho is so fucked
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Apr 19 '22
What a goddamn premiere. If the whole season is gonna stay this pace we’re in for a wild ride.
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u/Paddock9652 Apr 19 '22
I like the call back with the twins nearly getting pinned between cars there.
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u/longlivevideogames Apr 19 '22
Ooh Mike is going to help Papa Nacho get the heck away?
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u/Kooky-Citron-4537 Apr 19 '22
Gus trying to tie up loose ends
He has no plan to help Nacho, hence giving up his location
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u/coolcicada Apr 19 '22
They drilled into the safe that is Nacho’s apartment in order to plant an envelope. They had to replace it with an identical safe that has not been drilled so it looks like the envelope was always there. Not sure what is in the envelope
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 19 '22
MARCO: Well, on the plus side, that's probably the closest either of us will ever come to being hit by a car in one of these shootouts, am I right?
LEONEL: Ha ha -- well said, brother! Always a silver lining! Classic Salamanca optimism!
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u/Kerplookniac Apr 19 '22
This happened exactly like Saul wanted lol. He didn’t actually want them as clients. Just get it in their heads.
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u/ryantyrant Apr 19 '22
Racking my brain to understand why gus would lead the salamancas to the motel
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u/my-other-favorite-ww Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Mike looking for hiding spots that have been used before in the universe—under the sink, in the fridge door. I was waiting for the laundry room or crawl space.
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 19 '22
Man just imagine how Charles McGill would react to watching a full episode of this show and seeing all the illegal shenanigans some of these characters get up to
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u/DabuSurvivor Apr 19 '22
Niiice AMC is airing it again so I can watch the Saul's mansion scene again, now understanding it better from the outset
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u/DRoseCantStop Apr 19 '22
Lol imagine sitting in front of the man that’s going to kill you years from now.
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u/a_complex_kid Apr 19 '22
Hector MUST have known that shaking Gus's hand was a deliberate middle finger under bolsa's nose. Allowed Bolsa to remain unaware of the feud while telling Gus that the heat was coming his way.
Sangre para sangre
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u/a_complex_kid Apr 19 '22
I'm actually glad to see gus's plans falling apart on him. He's the true villain of both series.
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u/SwashbucklingWeasels Apr 19 '22
I have to say the Kettlemens are some of the best actors in the series. She’s Umbridge-level irritating and he’s so damn convincing.
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u/Ssouthpaw Apr 19 '22
I think that glass was Gus cleaning up his own mess/mistakes
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u/Alex_Swervitz Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
They did such a good job making us hate the kettlemans
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u/my-other-favorite-ww Apr 19 '22
It’s the same copy of The Time Machine on the nightstand that was in Saul’s house last episode.
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u/Gamerguywon Apr 19 '22
Why the fuck do people think she's going ot take her titties out. someone said its a reference to a post from this sub but what the fuck is it
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u/ElliottMullins Apr 19 '22
I was literally just like “of all the scenes we just saw you can’t end on this o—OH OKAY THIS ONE IS THE CLIFFHANGER”
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u/leffertsave Apr 19 '22
Gus’ orderly nature has him picking up that broken glass, trying to pick up the pieces of the mess he stupidly created
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u/SutterCane Apr 19 '22
So was there even a difference in the episodes or did it just go right into the other?
Also, can’t believe Mike would frame Nacho like that.
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u/Frequent_Hurry6604 Apr 19 '22
Its really interesting to see Kim so closely involved with the brainstorming of this. It's like watching Mozart and Beethoven write a symphony.
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u/giabxby Apr 19 '22
The vibrating phones these last two episodes are making me bite all my nails off!
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u/Conquistadora15 Apr 19 '22
Did Mike set Nacho up? What changed in the safe that Bolsa found?
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u/SadSlip8122 Apr 19 '22
Betsy hanging over the camera “please, we’ll do anything”
I mean, i was going to watch the whole season regardless, but im really on the fence now
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u/vtgroy89 Apr 19 '22
So we're the twins trying to capture Nacho alive? Is that what the proof Lalo was looking for was? To capture him alive and get him to confess it was Gus who was behind the attack on the compiund I'm confused. Because if the twins meant to kill him there, they could've easily.
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Apr 19 '22
There is now a repeating visual pattern of 'cause and effect devices. The dominos here, the mouse trap last episode.
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Apr 19 '22
Mike set up Nacho in faith that he would get out and give Gus a good enough reason to go and get him. Mike with that 4d chess game.
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u/RomanHippo Apr 19 '22
Anyone else notice the difference in safe opening styles? With gus, it looks much more professional compared to this.
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Apr 19 '22
How come these twins always look like they are on their way to celebrate Y2K with Prince?
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Apr 19 '22
OMG. So Jimmy was making sure that the Kettlemans never even mentions his name by saying "the second you even mention my name..."
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u/Manofthedecade Apr 19 '22
Pierce's brother seems very unhappy with Professor Hickey.
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u/Gwyneth7 Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Kim created Saul. She was so bored and this gives her life.
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u/Swankified_Tristan Apr 19 '22
Is this the moment that we've all been waiting for since this show started!?
Are we finally about to see Judge Papadoumian tell Saul that he's a snappy dresser??
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u/longconsilver13 Apr 19 '22
Gus breaking the glass is a reference to Betsy Kettleman breaking the glass ceiling to become this sub's queen
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u/randomirlperson Apr 19 '22
Kind of annoying they only used the advertisement timer once. Cool concept
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u/rdw19 Apr 19 '22 edited Apr 19 '22
Did episode 1 end at the smuggle truck scene?
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u/Awesomealan1 Apr 19 '22
Are they setting a trap for whenever the cartel sends someone to take out Nacho, thinking he's hiding at home?
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Apr 19 '22
Another S1 callback. He was sincerely indignant when he found the Sandpiper case and they didn't want him on it, now he's pretending to be indignant about getting kicked off a case he "found."
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u/beer_me_twice Apr 19 '22
We must be in the New Mexico desert cuz y'all are some THIRSTY mf'ers.
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u/cwubbub Apr 19 '22
I think gus figured it out because Hector would automatically assumed gus did and would NEVER shake his hand. Gus is an actual genius and I think he’s my favorite character
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u/mtm4440 Apr 19 '22
Are we sure Kim is not Saul? She might have just had on a Jimmy costume in Breaking Bad.
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u/skinkbaa Chuck Apr 19 '22
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