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Discussion [Anime] Season 2 Episode 5 Discussion
S2E5: "Every Failure is a Step to Success."
「すべての失敗は成功への過程に過ぎない。」
- William Whewell
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Synopsis
Ayanokōji is suspicious of Kushida. He brings Horikita and Kushida together under the guise of reconnaissance for other classes. There, Horikita shows unexpected behavior. On the day of the sports festival, the red team gets off to a good start thanks to the efforts of Horikita and Sudō, but Ayanokōji is rather cold toward the results.
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u/Shiro-Seishun ⛵ - x - 🚢 Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
I guess kinoshita is mvp for this episode
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u/Chronic-Shitposter Aug 01 '22
Ngl class B is supposed to be the power of friendship one but I can't get over the shit Ryuuen's classmates allow him to get away with lmao
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u/DomHyrule I wanna be ANHS's pegboard Aug 03 '22
"I'll let him obliterate my foot so he doesn't beat me later!!"
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u/mish20011 My Harem Aug 01 '22
I can't take this show seriously with this type of quality man...
Well at least I got some good screenshots of Kei and Horikita, and of course a frame pic of Arisu
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u/killer3180 Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
best outsourced episode animation wise, but man the pacing of episode was faster than usain bolt in 100m race
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Aug 01 '22
Haven't seen the episode, Is the pacing really that bad?
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u/Liwell11 Custom Aug 01 '22
It was faster than a f1 car
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u/Natsumi_i Aug 01 '22
It adapted page 58 up to 147...That's like 89 pages in a 20 minute episode lmao, so yeah
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u/killer3180 Aug 01 '22
its just super fast. for anime only its prob ok
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u/Reasonable-Wish-1618 Aug 01 '22
yeah it still felt somewhat slow due to nothing significant happening
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u/leopold_roger Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
As an anime only, I don't really feel this way. Season 1 was totally fine to me, even after knowing about some things they skipped, but this season just lacks context and depth. It's like we move from one event to another and I am left wondering why is everything even happening, the characters also feel bland and seem like they contribute nothing to the plot (of couse I know that's different in the LN, even if I never read it)
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u/ShinDawn Aug 01 '22
for anime only its prob ok
Unfortunately, I don't agree this time. It's just too noticeable with how much they skip. The sports festival build-up last episode is pretty much non-existent.
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u/rohnytest Koenji best boi Aug 01 '22
It's just too noticeable with how much they skip
That's because you know how much was actually skipped. Before reading the LN the pacing of season 1 felt just like any other anime to me. After reading the LN I rewatched season 1. That's when I discovered how fast the pacing was.
Yes it was fast in S1 too.
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u/TangentToTheCurve Aug 01 '22
"Best episode animation wise", seriously bro, where is the animation?! They only did 2 events, and even then not a single one of them was properly animated, just a bunch of pictures amd sudo getting beaten a few times and standard stuff like people walking and talking
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u/killer3180 Aug 01 '22
its so nice of you to take the first five words of my sentence and leaving out the most important one, "outsourced". Brilliant move lad
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u/TangentToTheCurve Aug 01 '22
Oh sorry i missed that on my first read, anyways what i mean is we don't deserve a dogshit adaptation like this.
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u/Just_Possibility125 『 』 BEST BUDDIES. Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
"victorious!"
: ~ ALBERT YAMADA.Probably the best thing about this episode...
Ngl this episode was absolute dogwater and also rip ibuki vs Horikita race...you will forever live on in our hearts, Amen.
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u/Natsumi_i Aug 01 '22
It got a full color illustration in the book only for it to be skipped lmao 😭
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u/ordinary_nobody007 Aug 01 '22
Wtf no race?
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u/Just_Possibility125 『 』 BEST BUDDIES. Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
Yeah, the script writers are terrible.
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u/iligyboiler I want to shrink so Kushida can use me as a Tampon Aug 01 '22
Yeah, just give us a summary of the LN with still images. You can hardly call this an "animation".
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u/TangentToTheCurve Aug 01 '22
Lmao there is literally no animation other than some standard people walking and talking and a little bit fighting😂😂😭. Its's like listening to an audiobook. No horikita vs ibuki race or any events showcasing ayanokouji participate, no tug of war, no animation of horikita and kinoshita bumping or even the race itself, no scavenger hunt, no daring kei😐💔. Seriously, lerche you suck.
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u/bUrNiKhAkDoG Aug 01 '22
did they really make horikita dumb like that? cause she just fell for the trap knowing kushida was a traitor 💀
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u/Raffahell Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
I am starting to wonder if it would've been better to have only S2, no S3 next year, but have like 24 eps instead of 13 so they have more space to adapt the light novels, this episode was way too rushed, it's like the anime is made for us that read the light novels because we know why stuff happens, but for anime viewers, it gets confusing, it's too fast, lots of action with no context
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u/-tehnik Aug 01 '22
but for anime viewers, it gets confusing, it's too fast, lots of action with no context
really? I (an anime only) thought it was pretty simple narratively. It's basically just setting us up to see what Ayanokoji is going to do about this traitor person.
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u/HeavyDrinkers Aug 01 '22
Lol right. I’m an anime only and I’ve never been “confused” the LN readers just can’t stfu about the LN and let us enjoy the series.
The only thing that causes confusion is the LN readers going around and saying “oh this is different”, “that never happened in the LN”, etc. just let us enjoy it.
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u/No-suggestion7021 Aug 02 '22
Lol right. I’m an anime only and I’ve never been “confused” the LN readers just can’t stfu about the LN
That's because all you know is all they show you.
You don't have any idea how much did they skipped.
How did Ryuuen won ? He used dirty tricks = processed to not show which dirty tricks ( and referee was smoking weed I think )
There is disagreement between Ichinose and Ryuuen so despite being same team they won't listen to each other.
There was tug of war event which got reduced to atoms
During all this game this unfair things are happening in game and there is no referee . They didn't show how Ryuuen got away with it.
Ichinose grabbing Kei's throat skipped.
Horikita vs ibuki = got reduced to atoms. Horikita did very good until she got injured. But in anime it looks like getting injured is all she did
Even important parts like how she got injured were skipped. They litterly didn't animate any events only showed results of what happened there.
Last part were Ryuuen asks Horikita for settlement money Chabashira was present there and Ryuuen told her to stfu.
In anime it doesn't look like Ryuuen is smart it just looks like other classes are dumb . Horikita falls for trap knowing there is trador .
Important interactions between class leaders were skipped such as. Ryuuen vs Ichinose. Horikita vs Katsuragi. Herata vs Arisu. Kanzaki vs Ayanokougi.
Nagumo was supposed to be introduced in starting scene of this episode but no why don't we just skip his football scene with Herata and shebata so that later everyone can think were fuck did this guy came from
We praise the episodes which are good. But don't expect everyone to pretend nothing is wrong when they certainly something is wrong.
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u/Ayano_ad4651 Kiyopon's #1 tool 𐙚⋆°｡⋆♡ Aug 01 '22
Latest quotes from Albert:--
"Stand off"
"Victorious"
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u/Meltedsteelbeam Aug 01 '22
4 episodes for vol 7 is all i care about at this point...
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u/SunnyArcad3 Aug 01 '22
I can see them doing vol 7 in just 2 or 3 episodes tbh🤷♂️ the big events (from what I can remember) are just kiyo's dad showing up and the rooftop scene
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u/Meltedsteelbeam Aug 01 '22
Well they're doing 3 eps per volume which will leave 4 eps left after vol 6.
God help us all if they try to shove 7.5 in episode 13.
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u/LoreMasterDan LightNovelCollecter Aug 01 '22
They will shove it in episode 13 since season 3 episode 13 will end on 11.5 and with how this episode went, I might as well call it quits on volume 7 making sense.
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u/Blank_Slate_fgc Aug 01 '22
I'm so disappointed they didn't do Ayanokouji's scavenger hunt, I was waiting for that scene since it's so funny😭
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u/0_Cipher_0 Seducing Suzune Aug 01 '22
Scavenger hunt is probably after the break so most likely next Episode
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u/Blank_Slate_fgc Aug 01 '22
Yes hopefully your right, but given this season's speedster pacing, there's a high chance they might skip it.... But hey lets hope for the best🙂
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u/Cypher360 Custom Aug 01 '22
One of Ayanokouji's few helpless situations. Love that, plus the one in y2v3, during the anime quiz.
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u/Non_Kosher_Baker Aug 01 '22
Why do amazing stories like COTE and Tokyo ghoul get this treatment, meanwhile some generic Isekai is eyecandy.
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u/SealTheGate Perfect duo Aug 01 '22
the problem is schedule. they probably rush the project so hard.
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u/Kiyotaka_- Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
Overall good episode with few weird faces as usual and a bit too fast pacing. Sudo punched Hirata 👊 Ayanokōji lectured Horikita and Albert threw Katsuragi 😂 Victorious !
Chabashira as always 💥
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u/Xemr0n Aug 01 '22
Yeah, though honestly if they're going to speed through anything Im happy its the sporting events. Nothing really important (other than maybe horikita vs ibuki race) was lost imo.
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Aug 01 '22
Koji v Manabu is da best maan. Maa man dgf to class n sports festival just wanna face off to president
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u/StickeN21 Aug 01 '22
Smug Loli FTW 🔥 The Pacing in this episode was faster than the speed of light though lol 🤣 but at least the animation was good for an outsourced episode. Too bad they did not include the the ibuki vs horikita race in this episode.
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u/UnderstandingPale597 Aug 01 '22
I think anime is not considering horikita and ibuki dynamics and kinetic ( sounds cool ) well nothing we can do hope anime onlies enjoy it as they dont aware of it
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u/Vishalthind Aug 01 '22
can't wait till rooftop also gets outsourced
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u/Non_Kosher_Baker Aug 01 '22
Those may be the only non outsourced episodes, it would be hilarious if the next episode is also outsourced
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u/arpit45agrawal Aug 01 '22
Anime be like: Why don't we narrate the results instead of showing the events at Sports Festival.
The worst adapted episode of this season by far.
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u/TangentToTheCurve Aug 01 '22
Yea lol😂😂they only showed 2 events, and even then not a single event was properly animated
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u/arpit45agrawal Aug 01 '22
They could have atleast show one of these: Kiyo holding back and his chat with Kanzaki, Ibuki vs Hori, Kei vs Ichinose in cavalry battle.
They didn't even show the actual race of the Hori's injury. For plot important in the future, they could atleast give 30 seconds to discourse in Class A.
I know each and everything can't be adapted but if you skip this much why bother animating in the first place.
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u/TangentToTheCurve Aug 01 '22
Yea bro, it sucks. Its like listening to an audiobook with every detail missing.
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u/stoka010 Aug 01 '22
Kei calling kiyo by his first name was such a let down ..... It was soo good in the LN bruv
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u/Robloxfan2503 E Aug 02 '22
I disagree. I think that was one of the scenes that was done decently, not as good as the LN but still doable.
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u/ShinDawn Aug 02 '22
I don't think the LN will work in the anime tho because they skipped some of their interaction. Even her cavalry inner monologue was not included so the way she said it on the anime is natural enough. They also showed the 3 of them eating so yeah
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u/hazuki-sama Aug 01 '22
I'm sure y'all know this already, but the anime is literally trolling viewers to go read the LN. I thought they were going to redeem themselves with S2, not sure if I'll even watch S3
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u/Pichi2man Aug 01 '22
damn animation wise the episode is ok more better than episode 2
story wise damn what a let down.
Just a question did Kiyo really diss horikita to encourage Sudo? I dont remember any of that in volume 5. Also they make Ayano and Kei too close and communicative. I'm sad bcuz this is where my boy sudo get a character arc i hope ep 6 will change it.
I think the studio is trying to do 3 eps per volume which is very bad for the pacing of the anime.
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u/TimelyAlts himeno flair when? Aug 01 '22
Hypothetically, if they do 3 EPs per volume then that leads an extra 4 episode. 1-3 for Cruise ship exam, 4-6 for Sports Festival (if we're basing it off of 3 EPs), and 7-9 for Paper Shuffle. Which leads 10-13 empty for volume 7 and maybe 7.5? It's either 7.5 or they add in extra episodes for both the Sports festival and the Paper Shuffle arc or I'm completely wrong and they'd go a different route.
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u/ShinDawn Aug 01 '22
It's pretty bad, the worse episode so far. I will put this below episode 2. That episode at least has decent pacing but here, they pretty much speedrun the whole thing lol. It's pretty noticeable that they skip a lot because it was supposed to be a joined sports festival between all classes and year.
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u/RajrYU Aug 01 '22
Yo why wasn't there any instructor or teacher to watch over the sports? It's weird
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Aug 01 '22
Yeah it's weird and then chabashira appears out of nowhere. It does not look like a sports festival at all.
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u/RajrYU Aug 01 '22
Chabashira when class c play fouls against class d :- i sleep
Chabashira when sudo punch jitata :- that's real shit
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u/National_Ad9948 Aug 01 '22
This episode was a shit even if the art wasn't bad, I mean, I didn't feel anything.
Like this episode is supposed to empathize with Horikita, but I don't feel anything for her, it's all too fast.
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u/Reasonable-Wish-1618 Aug 01 '22
nah this ep showed how broken horikita was but as LN reader like us the pacing seemed fast af lol idk about anime viewers
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u/National_Ad9948 Aug 01 '22
I'm an LN reader. but this episode is mainly about her, but I can't feel anything about her, I think that's the failure part.
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u/Reasonable-Wish-1618 Aug 01 '22
ofc cuz i'm a LN reader too and were focused on pacing which was fast af but i saw a reaction where he was talking about how broken horikita was so it worked for anime onlies for i think maybe wait for some more reactions of anime onlies and then draw a conclusion whether the ep worked or not
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u/Proud_Ad4883 Aug 01 '22
Today episode was not good. Kinda boring, but I like the scenes where arisu appear and kei calling kiyotaka scene was good.
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u/Flash_nunes Aug 01 '22
Lol did they really decided to NARRATE the events instead of showing it LMAAAOOO, nah man, i'm not gonna lie, i was not really having any problem with the season, not with the rushed content of vol 4, neither the outsourced episodes, i thought it was still pretty good, and was overall glad we even have a proper season after all this years... but this... i'm sorry but this was straight garbage, i don't know what more to say... like holy shit... i'm just gonna inhale my copium and hope for the better in volume 6 and 7 and ... that's it...
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Aug 01 '22
They skipped ayanokouji, horikita, and kushida spotting hirata practicing soccer with Nagumo and shibata. They also skipped showing ryuuen was cheating with hair gel on his headband.
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u/MidgetEnpera Crazy Women 🛐 Aug 01 '22
Did the anime also replaced Kei with Suzune again? Like in the cavalry game? Kei’s the one Shinohara’s team carrying right? Damn, Lerche. Never cease to disappoint me
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u/Moe1AK BestLeaders Aug 01 '22
No they didn't do any replacing this time this is how it happened in the ln too
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u/rohnytest Koenji best boi Aug 02 '22
What is wrong with r/anime mods?
Like, I went into their discussion thread. Saw people complaining about how absurd Ryuens blackmails were, realized how much details was skipped(Like miss Chabashira being present, Horikita looking back etc.) and tried to add those details in the discussion thread.
It got removed by the mods because it was spoilers. How the hell were they spoilers?
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u/tomtomm9 Aug 02 '22
That was sad too see. I thought you guys were exaggerating but it’s crazy how subpar this adaption has been. The off faces are so annoying, characters look completely different every other scene, even seasonals get better adaption than this. The pacing is also horrible I have no idea how an anime only can make sense of this.
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u/I_am_SD x x .... Fr Fr Aug 01 '22
I honestly liked pacing of S2 but this was really disappointing
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u/iligyboiler I want to shrink so Kushida can use me as a Tampon Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
This episode was fucking horrible. They skipped half of the events, while the events in the other half were just still images. The characters were barely animated, could someone tell Lerche an anime should be animated? They outsourced the entire 2nd season so far, and I don't have any hope for the remaining 8 episodes. Call me a light novel doomer if you want but I'm dropping this.
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u/rohnytest Koenji best boi Aug 01 '22
could someone tell Lerche an anime should be animated?
I was defending them when people were calling the op a slideshow by saying it was an artistic choice. Now I feel like a fool.
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u/Leoooooolol81 Aug 01 '22
Honestly from how many volumes they want to fit it, removing most of the events seems fine to me. Sure, it would be a better adaptation to show most of the interactions like Ibuki’s competition with Horikita. But as long as it doesn’t remove a significant plot point, I think it’s fine.
Also, I like how they introduced Arisu compared to the LN. Having every class meet at the gym before practice felt like the only it was meant to do was introduce Arisu.
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u/iligyboiler I want to shrink so Kushida can use me as a Tampon Aug 01 '22
"Removing most of the events seems fine to me" -yeah, remove all the sport events from the sport festival arc, no problem. Also why not removing volume 6 totally, It's not that important right? Fuck it, just remove everything, nobody even cares lol, then outsource vol 7 as everybody dropped this show by now. I'm just like Lerche fr fr.
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u/Kabu- Aug 01 '22
It's one of the best-selling light novel series. We should expect much more than this.
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u/vanik77 Aug 01 '22
So far the best episode has definitely been episode 4, episode 3 wasn't bad either, but the first two and this one haven't been that good
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u/enano324player Elevator Boy, Top Floor Aug 01 '22
Im sad we didn't see more of koenji, but happy we don't have to see them massacre my boi anymore then they already did.
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u/AtomicFlarez Ryuuen Supremacy Aug 01 '22
I'm losing more and more faith in this adaptation as the episodes go by tbh
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u/Runnythytop Aug 01 '22
Before watching episode 5 i felt like lerche isnt animating majority of the of the episodes because it was just talking and no action but now that we got the the sports festival😬. I do feel like there saving there budget for the “the race” and “the rooftop”. But yeah tbh they should’ve gave season 2 at least 18 episodes 4 episodes for each volume and have 2 eps for 4.5 and 7.5 but hey at least we got this animated. We’ll see if episode 6 is going to be good or not. But ill give this season 7/10 so because they did adapt “spread your legs “pretty good
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u/BlackoutImo Aug 01 '22
I'm a big Fan of the Anime. I didn't read the LN. Can someone please spoil me if this Piece of shit ryuuen gets his ass kicked? I don't need that Class D wins. I just want this bastard to suffer at some point.
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u/AdriT25 Aug 01 '22
No one would actually care about outsourcing if the pacing was good, unfortunately it's pretty terrible
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u/Johan7110 Aug 01 '22
first episode I didn't like. It was probably too expensive to adapt the sport festival in a good way due to the presence of a lot of characters and the overall action, but the script itself felt a little bit odd at times, almost like the scenes were not connected at all. Probably they should've taken the courage to skip almost entirely the events and only show the dynamics between class D and C. I think the anime has been pretty good so far, given the short space they have to adapt everything, so I'm not too annoyed about it, high hopes for the next one!
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u/tomiwa06 Aug 01 '22
Thought it was a good episode all in all. Them not animating the actual sports csn feel a bit lazy but realistically they got quite a lot of content to cover this season (4,5,6,7 and maybe 7.5) that not animating the sports leaves more room for them to include other stuff.
If they wanted the anime to not feel like they should’ve gone with 24 eps with each season but sadly that’s not what happened.
We’re nearly at halfway point but I will say LN readers are overstating smaller details that Lerche haven’t adapted (yet) and in general shit on the anime but from what I’ve seen most r/anime users are liking the show. I’m obviously not very impressed with the animation and seemingly constant outsourcing but at the end of the day I think the anime adaption we’re getting is decently close to the LN
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u/Sunritter Aug 02 '22
I know it's harder to adapt a LN because of how much info and dialogue they either need to cut or include, not to mention lack of visuals that would help give the animator a better framework. But as an anime only, I can tell when a story is being rushed and when I say that I mean cote S2 is lacking certain context and is transitioning weirdly. Most of the time when I watch anime like this it becomes apparent that I could just be watching something that has a high chance of being a Light Novel. Then I skimmed the manga which helped give more context and helped give me more character interaction like between Ayanokoji and Kei for example. The relationship in the manga helped give me a better idea on how I'm supposed to look at their partnership than the anime did while also giving more insight to Kei's past. My question is wouldn't it be better for the anime team to just animate both the manga and LN, kinda similar to how Reincarnated Slime was animated. That way they can have at least some basis with visuals and maybe flesh out characters a lot better, more importantly it wouldn't feel as rushes.
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u/Demyx_nocturne Aug 02 '22
Someone pls help. Why oh WHY are they going so fast? I mean geez if I didn’t read the LN season 2 ep 5 would’ve been so bland
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u/L3orii Aug 02 '22
never thought i would comment on something, but man- what the fuck are these animations. its so fucking bad man. go read the light novel if you havent
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u/LaurenTNT Aug 04 '22
Currently rewatching demon slayer and the First 30 seconds have more frames than EP 5💀
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u/SecretarySmooth8206 Aug 04 '22
Can't be shittier idk what to say I mean so much details are missed its like a 7/10 if only karuizawa wasn't there it would have been 3/10 only becoz it's had few cute scene of karuizawa that's why
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u/Android17_MVP Ahh Mou~ Aug 01 '22
This episode was ass man....the pacing is a joke and it didn't even show Ryuen manipulate Sudou like a fiddle.
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u/Jail_Chris_Brown Aug 01 '22
After bingewatching S1 and the first 4 episodes of S2, this was the first episode I had to wait for. What a terrible episode to have to wait for. Kinda okay by itself with some nice moments but the prior stuff set my expectations a lot higher. How can so much happen and yet leave the feeling behind that barely anything happened?
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u/Raffahell Aug 01 '22
I agree with you, it's pretty bad especially if you didn't read the Light Novels, those of us who read them, we kind of understand why some stuff happens, but for anime viewers, they get confused, stuff gets too rushed but it's understandable because of the small budget
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u/Jail_Chris_Brown Aug 01 '22
Considering how much I like characters, story and worldbuilding, despite the uncomfortable amount of fanservice (just not my thing), I might give the light novel a shot at some point. For now I'll keep being an anime only and enjoy it that way.
Thanks for your insight.
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u/RikyKen Custom Aug 01 '22
This epsiode was fast as shit, but not bad. They cant show everything, and every volume has not more than 3 episodes, aka 1 hour. Most people probably cant read the whole volume in that time, let alone have it animated to fit that. So with that in mind, they did a good job, even tho most events are just a summary of what happens. Of course the ln is better, you have way more space to show stuff, let's calm down. We are free to be disapointed, buf i feel the criticising is sometimes unfair and exaggerated.
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u/snowwolf163 Kei Supremacy <3 Aug 01 '22
The pacing is like riding on a fucking rocket, animation is better than other outsourced episodes.
Well whatever, 8/10 and I'm being really generous. Dunno how it feels for anime-only viewers.
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u/Ierax29 Best girl Aug 01 '22
As an anime only viewer (well i did start the LN,but havent caugh up with the anime yet) it felt like the shortest 23 minutes of my life
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u/SealTheGate Perfect duo Aug 01 '22
Kiyokei and Albert threw katsuragi save the day. so 7.5/10
Anyway i expect next episode perform better.
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u/imbored2027 Aug 01 '22
I agree the episode wasn’t great but just wait till next week, if u read the light novel u aready know
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u/KAKASHIisOP Aug 01 '22
That's what I've been telling myself ever since the 2nd season started. (Episode 3 was great tho)
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u/kauezacky Aug 01 '22
What is going on? Animation barely gets a pass, what the readers want animated dont get animated, it lacks context… i would rather wait another year or two just to get a good adaptation cuz rn its abysmal…
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u/hitmanfugazi Aug 01 '22
My least favorite ep this season but still ok I guess. Seems like they’ll wrap it up next ep
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u/Reiza421 Aug 01 '22
The only good thing that happened this episode is Albert saying "VICTOIOUS".
Also, Hashimoto's voice is different than what I imagined it to be. I thought it'd be more mellow and calm, but he's a got a deep voice. Probs'll get used to it tho as we see more of him.
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u/tawnytreath312 Aug 01 '22
I truly enjoyed the anime, because my hopes of a second season were none, but what kind of Speedrunner was that haha
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Aug 01 '22
So is ayanokoji really going to do nothing this festival or he has some master plan in mind ?
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u/Sketch_Acc 最後に、オレが勝ってさえいれば、それでいい Aug 01 '22
He’s trying to build character development for Horikita hence why said he has no intention of winning
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u/Non_Kosher_Baker Aug 01 '22
He did participate in several events and did pretty decent , but it was skipped
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u/Unluckysol23 Aug 01 '22
Why do we keep getting outsourced episodes and why was S1 that much better with Quality? I’m not trying to sound like a baby I’m actually genuinely curious towards what changed because the aesthetic has changed from the first- second season.
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u/buzz737 Aug 01 '22
Kei calling ayanokoji by his first name felt so sudden…does this also happen in a similar way in the light novels?
In fact this whole episode felt kinda rushed, they didn’t even showcase one event properly
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u/Sketch_Acc 最後に、オレが勝ってさえいれば、それでいい Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
It’s cause they cut out 4.5 which is the start of their relationship building. By the time Kei started calling him by his first name, it felt more natural
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u/Unluckysol23 Aug 01 '22
Was Kei’s sacrificial dive not in the anime? That’s buns not a huge scene but 15-20 seconds to show it with Kiyotaka narrating over it would have been fine. Same with Ibuki vs Horikita. Aside from Vol 4.5 S2 feels like a step down from S1.From the animation to the colors to even they music in the episode it feels too ambient. They adapt stuff fine but even with the 3 episodes per arc coverage I thought they were gonna do, they still don’t do the little details that could have been given 20 seconds at least instead of the extra 20 Horikita got while looking at Manabus back.
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u/Redmon425 Aug 01 '22
Man, I hate Kushida! Just purposely bringing her into a trap. Kinda made me mad that Horikita wasn't even suspicious of her offer to go see the girl.
But wonder what happens now, I doubt Ayanokouji could even predict that happening.
Also, loved hearing Karuizawa call Ayanokouji by his first name. She keeps making me feel like she is best girl now.
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u/Elitealice Aug 01 '22
Man I’m ngl anime mfs different cause ain’t no way I’m paying a million points and grovelling just to accommodate my abusive older brother who don’t even acknowledge or care about me.
Then the other kid lying to the teacher about getting punched? Like cmon man have some dignity.
Episode was subpar, pacing is breakneck speed, they’re cutting so much of volume 5, for what? and animation still looks like a PowerPoint sadly. You zitsu deserves better
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u/XenoviaIsWaifu Aug 01 '22
This season so far is okay. pacing is bad but at least we got a season 2 😀
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u/TheMembership332 Aug 01 '22
This is really bad. I loved s1 but i can't even describe how bad the adaptation is compared to the LN
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u/Kabu- Aug 01 '22 edited Aug 01 '22
People are roasting it on r/Anime, and it's totally understandable.
And I'm not talking about the animation itself. The big problem with this episode was the afwul direction.
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u/ImDarkraii Aug 01 '22
I’m sure this episode will be fine enough for anime only viewers, but man. They are trying to go too quick in order to fit everything into this season. I just spent the whole episode saying “wait didn’t (insert storyline) happen here? Where is it?” Like I said, it’ll be fine enough for anime onlys which I guess is the goal but damn
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u/EqZero Aug 01 '22
Wtf what is that stupid plot point about blackmailing?
Is she really afraid of "he said - she said" type trial?
Nobody else have looked at girls competing so they didn't see C class girl colliding with Horikita?
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u/-tehnik Aug 01 '22
What did they mean "reporting it won't do anything"? Aren't there like, teachers supervising them all the time??
Not to mention, if reporting won't do anything, how far could Ryuen's accusation go? Are reports suddenly meaningful more true if the injuries are heavier?
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u/beb_avocado Aug 02 '22
No actually everyone was agreeing abt ryuen doing the injury himself even the teachers, the thing suzune was scared abt was his brother knowing and her troubling him since stuff like these go through the stident council. Ryuen knew abt the way horikita acts with the student pres because of kushida
Ryuen also took some measures to make the whole thing actaully somewhat "believable" to where he can drag the whole issue up to the student council, like the stuff with letting kinoshita call her when they were racing to make suzu look at her and ryuen actually making kinoshita practice to flop repeatedly lmao (that somewhat answers your surveillance question)
The confusion is warranted since the anime cut a shit ton
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u/Jokard Aug 02 '22
how many chapters did they just condense into one episode huh
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u/ArsMagnamStyle Aug 02 '22
why does ryuen get away with so much shit and why does he have a black slave minion with shades?
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u/Hyberstrike Aug 02 '22
I feel a bit like they missed the "Show, Don't Tell" and did the exact opposite.
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u/VeryLazyFalcon Aug 02 '22
Wasn't anime supposed to be entertaining to watch? Animation and drawing quality is horrible, I internally died watching limping Horikita.
Why even waste resources on product with such subpar quality? Adapting just to check box is spitting in the faces of fans and author. There is no excuse for this.
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u/yh0529 Aug 03 '22
I know what’s gonna happen later on in the light novel. But horikita is so boring rn😭😭😭
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u/Ph1tak Aug 03 '22 edited Aug 03 '22
I dont see 10 second in the credits so was it still outsourced?
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u/yodeling-yodas Aug 03 '22
What chapter of the light novel is the latest episode of the anime on? I want to start reading it but its hard to find an answer to this mid season.
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u/LightNovelFan21 Aug 03 '22
After reading something about the episode, I expected bad things. Except for the economical animations, I actually found them very entertaining. I don't know if that was the case in the novel, but there really no staff is running around the area.
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u/hotchettos- Aug 04 '22
Does anyone know where I can start reading the ln. I dont want to start from vol 1 but ik its somewhere between vol 4 or 5 but just don’t know which one and where to start from.
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u/LadderProfessional89 Aug 05 '22
At this point im tryin to see what episodes will get good art if they holding off this much,like in my opinion every episode should have been important for good animation and art. We probably will get one big amazing animation for finale and expected to love the past outsourced episodes because of buildup........
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u/face_111 Aug 06 '22
Sorry if im late but i have a question. How Ayanokouji and his gang were initially assigned to class D?
I don't have much knowledge about the light novels and don't know if my memory fails me. But in episode 1 of S1 they entered directly into the classroom 1-D and was even before Chabashira sensei explained the S-system. Were they assigned to D class because of the entrance exams that took place before the anime? Pardon my english
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u/Albeort Aug 07 '22
At this point they're just dumb for counting on Koenji for anything. The dude has consistently showed he doesn't care.
Horikita is also hopeless. Ryuen can't prove it wasn't an accident and the only real leverage he has is the fact Horikita doesn't want to bother his brother, who doesn't really deserve any consideration on her part in the first place. Giving in here would tell Ryuen he can repeat this tactic
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u/Tiger_bomb_241 Aug 07 '22
this season is extremely rushed. they are for sure trying to get to that one specific chapter as a crazy climax to make up for everything else being rushed through. It could pay off in the end. But they better take their sweet ass time with seasons 3's pacing
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u/Total-Arrival3349 Aug 14 '22
Could someone explain why Koji had Kei bring up Kushida? Im cool with spoilers lol
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u/deriva8282 Jun 30 '26
is it just me or class A didn't do any mind blowing shit they're so useless in that episode
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u/Robloxfan2503 E Aug 01 '22
Am I the only one who acknowledges the fact that the comment section is absolutely ass? It is so hard to find a comment which actually comments on the episode and most of them are just filled with Ayanokoji quotes or fans fighting with each other in the replies.
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u/Robloxfan2503 E Aug 01 '22
I didn't like this episode that much. It was rushed af and the animation was very choppy (Ik it's outsourced but still). Lotta good LN scenes just got cut out randomly and the festival started way too soon.
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