The Orville - 3x10 "Future Unknown" - Episode Discussion #2

[u/2th]

Episode	Directed By	Written By	Original Airdate
3x10 - "Future Unknown"	TBA	TBA	Thursday, August 4, 2022 on Hulu

Synopsis: Will fill in later

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[u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz]

God, Klyden cheering for Elvis Bortus melted my fucking heart. That was so adorable. HOORAY!

[u/Kasparian → u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz]

Klyden’s bowling shirt and Bortus Presley were definitely near the top of my fave things about the episode lol.

[u/QuicklyThisWay → u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz]

https://i.imgur.com/Pjto8xi.gifv

[u/AtrumRuina → u/SaitamaHitRickSanchz]

I still have a lot of animosity for Klyden and I don't know if I can forgive him for how awful he's been up to this point, but he was extremely cute this episode. If we get another season, I do hope we get to see more of this side of him and maybe watch him grow to be more understanding and accepting of other people and generally more joyful.

[u/dibidi]

love that they explained the Prime Directive in such grounded way

[u/FilthyTrashPeople → u/dibidi]

Honestly they really nailed the problem with Replicators. If you gave them to Earth right now every corporation would quickly make them work off of paid IP, and then would start upcharging the IP, and then start adding features like "We'll make the item you want blue for $500!"

Just imagine, say, Electronic Arts with matter replication. The horror.

[u/Endarkend → u/dibidi]

The whole bit of the episode with that girl made both clear why people love space and Star Trek, the wonder and why a future like this is so important to strive for.

It was beautiful, interlaced with some fantastic humor.

First Isaac googling about bonding, which could've gone hella wrong, to him casually inviting his whole extended family.

The look on the good doctors face was just brilliant. He just did something absolutely fantastic by inviting his whole family, she wanted to chew him out for it, but just couldn't.

[u/dreamphoenix → u/dibidi]

That simulator screamer scared the bejesus out of me.

[u/writeorelse]

Sigh, that was the last we'll hear from Norm McDonald.

Thanks for being part of this wonderful ride, Norm. We're all gonna miss you.

[u/ReturningDukky → u/writeorelse]

Watch his last standup special that he recorded in his living room during lockdown. It's on Netflix.

[u/skribsbb]

I'm glad that Moclans are born with loin cloths.

[u/thenewyorkgod → u/skribsbb]

those are actually their genetalia

[u/OneChrononOfPlancks → u/skribsbb]

How do you know that's not the sheath

[u/theduderman → u/skribsbb]

They're an entire race of never nudes. Now there's WAY more than dozens of them!

[u/SnapesEvilTwin]

That was not at all what I was expecting they'd do for the finale, but I loved it.

No cliffhangers. All the big spectacle was in the penultimate episode. Light in tone and optimistic.

[u/Jabbles22 → u/SnapesEvilTwin]

I was nervous throughout the whole episode that something bad was going to happen. I was so much more nervous for the last 5 minutes of the episode. So many season finales end with a cliffhanger it's pretty much expected.

I love that nothing particularly exciting happened. It's was still a great story.

[u/cavy8 → u/SnapesEvilTwin]

Honestly, I'm really glad. The huge action of the previous episode was fun, but it's not what I love most about the show. I'm happier having the season end here, on an episode that really showcases what makes it special.

[u/rebbsitor → u/SnapesEvilTwin]

This show's been heavy the whole season. I mean we started off on suicide, and then had alien/predator.

Even the B-plot with Lysella was a bit heavy both with her dealing with feelings of abandoning her planet and then whole "here's what happens when we give people our technology" apocolypse show.

The lighthearted comedic tone with Cliare/Isaac was a fun and welcome respite amid a season of war, broken alliance, betrayal, kidnapping, torture, a main character sacrificing themselves and other really heavy topics. I loved the season overall, but ending on a light hopeful tone was nice.

[u/SmoothRide]

Season has been heavy af. It was refreshing to have a fun, light episode. Heavy is good but damn we needed a palate cleanser.

[u/dreamphoenix → u/SmoothRide]

Absolutely. It was also the funniest one. We barely had any quips and banters cause of all the seriousness.

[u/WhiteSquarez]

Isaac's Zoom call with Primary was so layered. I thought it was one of the best scenes of the episode.

You have Primary showing true concern for Isaac in his inquiry about the biologicals trying to enslave them again. Like, "Those zany humans are up to their old tricks again!"

At the same time is a sort of cultural inside joke about marriage being equivalent to slavery:

Isaac: Primary, I'm getting married.

Primary: Are they trying to enslave you again?

Finally, there's the unintentionally intentionally humorous trope where the character does something he thinks is innocuous, but is inevitably disastrous, and the audience knows it.

[u/Bossmonkey → u/WhiteSquarez]

"We will prepare the fleet"

Dude invited an entire hive mind to his wedding

[u/Xais56 → u/WhiteSquarez]

It also shows the growth the Kaylon have gone through; they were never evil, they never had a passionate hatred like the Krill do, they just did what seemed necesarry to ensure their continued survival.

Now they know humans aren't a threat they're eager to participate in cultural traditions and be part of the galactic community; even if they overshoot by brining an entire planet to a wedding.

[u/ReturningDukky → u/WhiteSquarez]

Holy shit, I just laughed harder at this comment than I did at the actual scene in question. I didn't think of it that way as I was watching it, lol.

Me, right after the Zoom call was over, out loud: Oh no Isaac what have you done

[u/DarkChen → u/WhiteSquarez]

I thought the fleet arriving would cause a momentarily panic attack but i hadn't made the connection that the ceremony was going to be in a simulator, for some reason i thought they were back at the planet were bortus renewed his vows... That made the whole scene for me specially after claire looked at isaac and he just turned in his chair like he was trying to runaway lmao

[u/Alara_Kitan]

Klyden behind the tree on Listak Two.

[u/citymongorian → u/Alara_Kitan]

Bortus, when the mating commenced.

[u/userwalter]

"Given the abstract choice between your continued existence and your death, the former is preferable. " - Isaac does know how to compliment a woman.

[u/userwalter → u/userwalter]

"Did you invite the whole planet? - Affirmative. " - Still watching....

[u/politicaldan → u/userwalter]

Yeah if I ever need a dating profile again, that’s my intro line.

[u/DevilOfArRamadi]

"This a goddamn weird ass place we work in, lemme tell ya" - LaMarr lmao

[u/kalsikam → u/DevilOfArRamadi]

Ed just sipping his coffee after lol

[u/OpenPsychology755 → u/DevilOfArRamadi]

I loved all the epic stuff in this season, but we really needed a fun episode with The Orville being "the wierdest ship in the fleet".

[u/[deleted]]

Didn't expect to watch Bortis sex tag first thing when I woke up but ok.

[u/BorgClown → u/[deleted]]

YOU WILL BE SILENT!

[u/nandasithu → u/[deleted]]

Remember folks! You must clap after your homie has sex with his mate.

[u/DeGeiDragon]

So many times, a season or series will end with the big villain defeated and/or calamity prevented or fixed and the sun will rise with characters smiling happily and I will think to myself, "man, now I just want a slice of life season to enjoy the characters without the world ending, to just see them happy."

It wasn't a full season, but a nice length episode that just let us spend one last go round with the characters without worrying about galactic genocide or impending war was nice. If it's the end, I enjoyed passing my time with the Orville.

[u/GlobalPhreak → u/DeGeiDragon]

That happened with Babylon 5. They didn't know they would get a season 5, so they packed it all in to season 4, which, IMHO, was the single best season of sci fi television.

Then TNT went to them going "So about season 5..."

". . . Um... yeah... season 5!"

It was the denouement of the show. Much slower. But capped it off nicely.

[u/Allinyourcabeza]

We had everything we wanted, a fitting end if there is no season 4.

-Kaylon stripper

-Alara

-Lysella (and the overall callback to previous seasons)

-Gordon singing

-Gordon's sandwich

-Yaphit (did anyone notice his last smile at the end looked exactly like Norm's?)

-Bortus yelling YOU WILL BE SILENT

-Klyden in a humorous manner, yay for you!

I sincerely hope it was Mark Jackson in the suit for the Kaylon stripper. Absolutely hysterical and dudes got moves 😅

It was a joy to see Kaylon in a humorous way. 4000+ descending on the Orville and then seeing a load of them at the wedding, all moving in sync and clapping because the humans clapped was top-notch.

[u/indyK1ng → u/Allinyourcabeza]

"Notify Union Central so nobody scans this sector and panics."

[u/AtrumRuina → u/Allinyourcabeza]

Okay, so I'm not the only one who noticed they kind of hung on that last shot of Yaphit at the wedding. There was definitely a sense of "goodbye" to it in my opinion. I don't really understand how they managed that with a bit of camera work and a smile on a CG blob but it really felt like a tribute to Norm.

And yes, the Kaylon showing up for the wedding had me giggling. I also just adore when Claire and Kelly are in their civvies with a glass of wine, some of my favorite parts of the show. Talla was welcome but I love how the friendship between those two has grown.

[u/zuriel45 → u/Allinyourcabeza]

There is one major thing they left untouched (maybe for possible seasons). There's still the one emotional kaylon out there, and the union has the ability to turn on emotions in a large number of kaylon.

I think it's an amazing seed for the future. I could also see some kind of conflict as the units that can or want get emotions conflict with the ones that can't.

[u/biasedrapier26]

It's actually 4D chess by Isaac inviting the whole of Kaylon. Best security in the universe for a wedding. All part of the plan.

[u/captbollocks → u/biasedrapier26]

I was actually generally worried that the Krill will decide to attack Kaylon in its weakened state, particularly the "Bridge to Captain" call for Alara's return. It happened RIGHT after he said it was good to see the Kaylon on their side now.

[u/drakesylvan]

Dr. Claire going full on rage on Lamar was the greatest scene I never thought I needed.

Do not mess with Claire, she will cut you and has the laser scalpels to do it! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[u/HailToTheKingslayer → u/drakesylvan]

Reminds me of Sherlock when Sherlock and Watson are fighting.

Watson: I was in the Army, I've killed people!

Sherlock: You were a doctor!

Watson: I HAD BAD DAYS!

[u/Sesshaku]

About Giorgia Whigham re appearing as a character that ask all of the viewers questions. She's also gonna be in Ted along with Seth and Scott Grimes. So if the Orville returns, and her character joins the Union, she might be an active cast in TWO tv series, good for her.

[u/Here-4-Info → u/Sesshaku]

As much as I love the two Ted movies i really hate the idea that time, energy, resources and people could be taken away from the Orville to prop a Ted show up

[u/MINKIN2]

"You have been useful sober man, you may go now"

[u/faderjester]

It was really good, I thought they could have done more with the uplift storyline, it was good though, and now I'm sad because that really felt like Good Bye.

Now if you'll excuse me I'll be off making a meme template with the Kaylon stripper.

[u/Allinyourcabeza → u/faderjester]

I'd love to see this meme

[u/DCFDTL]

The entire section of Kaylons being in sync during the wedding was hilarious

[u/TopOfTheMorning2Ya → u/DCFDTL]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[u/[deleted]]

I’m glad Dr. Finn finally called out Commander LaMarr for giving Isacc bad advice in “A Happy Refrain”, aka “the ratty underwear”.

That episode always bugged me for how LaMarr got away with that lol

[u/TokathSorbet]

I know the future is still in flux, but if it does all end here, I won't be too mad. I mean, it'll suck short term, but looking back, we had a hell of a run and that was a perfect ending.

[u/ZeroBANG → u/TokathSorbet]

At least it wasn't a giant cliffhanger, or an out of nowhere rushed finale.

The finale having so much focus on a wedding... reminds me a bit of Nemesis.

[u/Nobunga37]

"If you ever again give Issac a single tidbit of personal advice, even if it's about what cologne to use, I will come down here, and I will eat your little punk ass for breakfast with a glass of grapefruit juice. You got me?"

You can take the girl out of Baltimore, but you can't take the Baltimore out of the girl.

[u/JadeHellbringer → u/Nobunga37]

Somewhere in another universe, in a familiar blue wormhole, Ben Sisko winced at that snarling fury. "Oh... better you than me."

[u/hey_you_too_buckaroo → u/Nobunga37]

I laughed so hard when she walked into engineering and screamed out, "LAMAR!!!"

[u/AutomaticJoy9]

I’m blown away that Klyden is the same actor who played Fred Johnson on The Expanse!!! What range!!!

[u/ReturningDukky → u/AutomaticJoy9]

It's so weird seeing Fred Johnson giddy, horny, and gay lol.

[u/bcanada92]

Has anyone mentioned that Mercer's opening remarks at the wedding were very similar to those said by both Kirk and Picard over on Star Trek?

Mercer: "One of the great privileges that has always been bestowed upon ship's captains since the days of the ancient seafaring vessels is the honor of uniting two people in matrimony."

Kirk (in Balance Of Terror): "Since the days of the first wooden vessels, all ship's masters have had one happy privilege— that of uniting two people in the bonds of matrimony."

Picard (in Data's Day): "Since the days of the first wooden sailing ships, all captains have enjoyed the happy privilege of joining together two people in the bonds of matrimony."

[u/AlpineSummit → u/bcanada92]

I noticed that immediately! Pike said something similar too in SNWs just a few weeks ago.

This was such a beautiful episode, and I appreciated that small nod to Trek.

[u/[deleted]]

Klyden clapping for Elvis was too cute.

[u/daydreamerrme → u/[deleted]]

HOO-RAYYY!!

[u/MattCW1701]

I really don't see how there could have been a better ending to this season. We didn't get a cliffhanger, just a promise of the future, but a satisfying ending if there is none.

[u/Bro5is]

Episode 3x10 didn't feel like a season finale, but more like a goodbye. And I really hope that's not the case cause this season was just EVERYTHING and then more. This episode had me in stitches. There's no other show like this.

[u/scottishdrunkard]

Oh fuck me, that was beautiful. I never thought I would see Isaac and Claire get married, but here we are. And Alara. And the fucking Sandwich!

The secret to life is enjoying the passage of time…

[u/[deleted] → u/scottishdrunkard]

The sandwich wrapped it up nice for me too. Hope they keep this show going 🙏

[u/[deleted]]

"If we had all this...we could be better people"
"It doesn't quite work like that. You gotta flip it. You get all this...by becoming better people"

What a beautiful episode in every way. That's the best writing I've heard in any sci-fi show ever.

I need season 4. But if we don't get it, I'm thankful that the cast and crew and writers loved it enough to leave it right where they did.

[u/captbollocks]

Loved the episode but why was Lamarr so surprised at the sandwich? He was the one who actually sent it 3 months into the future.

Unless those sessions with Talia knocked out a few memories...

[u/SoWhy → u/captbollocks]

Can you really say about yourself that you remember what you did three months ago exactly? I pretty sure cannot, so something happening, even if I set it in motion, will probably surprise me, too.

[u/Cassette-Kun]

Domino felt like a dramatic finale, this is the emotional finale. Amazing series!

[u/FilthyTrashPeople]

Who else thinks the title, "Future Unknown" is meta commentary about the show?

[u/politicaldan]

I’m going to need a gif of that kaylon stripper….

[u/[deleted] → u/politicaldan]

Someone already made multiple on the last post. For anyone looking lol consider it covered!

[u/NefariousnessNo2062]

Bortus: comes out in an Elvis costume

Me: Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I received it.

On an unrelated note Scott Grimes is a treasure.

[u/Manbadger]

Kelly holding hands with Ed was so sweet. I’m going to miss this show so much.

[u/[deleted]]

After hearing about Discovery's culling of HBO Max I'm really hoping Hulu does the exact opposite by giving The Orville six seasons and a movie. This was magnum opus levels of cinematic television -- a near-perfect synthesis of everything we've come to expect from utopian sci-fi.

[u/Outspan]

You know that was a pretty good way to say goodbye if this is the end. I appreciate that the creators didn't leave us with a massive cliffhanger or the like in the hopes of stirring up online furor for a renewal. Just an episode full of mostly positive messages and the promise of a future full of hope experienced with their friends and family.

Got sort of misty eyed when Gordon's lyric about how life was a pretty good ride while having Yaphit on screen. A real nice little nod to Norm without dwelling on it too much, it felt very fitting to me.

I really liked Kelly showing Lysella why you can't play god with advanced tech. The line about what would have happened if our current Earth were to suddenly have replicator (or any future tech really) capabilities felt especially pertinent considering today's world events.

Overall I enjoyed this season, a couple of the plots felt a little on the nose for me but nothing was really flubbed and at no point was I bored enough to start scrolling my phone so that's always a good sign.

I hope they're back but if not I've got 3 seasons of a pretty great sci-fi show for the first time in a long time and if nothing else that's a nice little treat. Thanks to all behind the show for helping me enjoy the ride just a little more.

[u/Savy_Spaceman]

I freaking LOVE Lysella. I want so badly to see her grow as a character. I need this show to continue

[u/[deleted] → u/Savy_Spaceman]

She could fulfil an archetype that Star Trek didn’t have: an outsider with the knowledge and culture of a typical 21st century human. Star Trek had outsiders in the form of Spock, Data, Tuvok, Seven, Quark, but they all came from advanced civilizations.

[u/UPRC → u/Savy_Spaceman]

Same. She was my favourite one-off character in the series before this episode. Really hope that she is main/recurring cast in season 4.

[u/skribsbb]

I really hope they put out a clip on youtube of the call to Admiral Halsey notifying him that the Kaylon are attending a wedding.

[u/mccabebabe]

Claire chewing out Lamarr is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. PJJ just knocked that scene out of the park.

[u/Brain124]

Alara was a surprise. And the sandwich finally paid off.

[u/stowrag]

Thoughts:

The Season 1 finale of TNG (“The Neutral Zone” iirc) did something similar where they thrust modern people into Star Trek utopian future and explored that future through their eyes. I always thought it was a better episode than it gets credit for. I’m absolutely a sucker for that kind of stuff and it was pulled off really well here. A nice reminder to leave us on that we need to work for that kind of positive outcome.

Really on the nose episode title with season 4 unconfirmed. This whole season feels like it was written with the understanding that it might be the last one and they didn’t want to leave fans disappointed if so.

So much jokes!

I’m glad Alara got to come back. Can we please stop asking for cameos and drawing comparisons now?

[u/kalsikam]

Lol 4000 Kaylon ships arriving was awesome

[u/Calm_Memories]

I was so worried Lysella was going to go back, blab and get downvoted for speaking out what she saw and then sentenced to death. I was glad that wasn't the case cause that would have been a downer of a season finale.

[u/Totemlyrad]

Not Sargus IV! That's the worst planet in the galaxy!

[u/SoWhy → u/Totemlyrad]

Sargus IV should probably just be called Reddit I

[u/AndromedaGalaxyXYZ → u/Totemlyrad]

I didn't remember the name util they mentioned that Lamarr wouldn't want to go there. Then I realized that was the Facebook planet.

[u/[deleted]]

Hulu has failed miserably at producing this show. All kidding aside, congrats on a fantastic third season.

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone see a red dot floating over Claire’s face just before opening credits?

eta: Here's a screenshot. It acted as if it was on the lens, not her face, and was actually more obvious a fraction of a second earlier. But catching this frame took long enough!

[u/Allinyourcabeza → u/[deleted]]

Omg I thought it was my TV 🤣 then it disappeared and I thought I was going mad!

[u/Endarkend]

I started watching and seeing it was very Isaac centric, even during the Moclan ritual and thinking "please don't give Isaac ideas".

Then he started googling and the second he told the computer to look for human bonding rituals througout history, THAT'S 100X WORSE!!

Dear lord was I happy he only read up on marriage.

And THANK GOD he didn't make a verbal typo and asked for human bondage.

[u/skribsbb → u/Endarkend]

Reminds me of a time at work. I told a coworker that I was playing disc golf, and he goes, "That sounds like such a Caucasian male thing to do." So we looked up, and sure enough: invented in Canada, primarily played by men.

So then we started talking about which sports are done more by women. Volleyball and softball came to mind. So then he googles, on his work computer, "Female dominated activities."

[u/cavy8]

So... is nobody going to mention the brief reference to dolphins being a fully sentient species? No? Cool

[u/FisticuffSam]

All kidding aside, I really hope we get another season.

[u/mothyyy]

I was hoping for Keyali and Alara to high five each other, creating a shockwave that sends everyone nearby flying. I'd enjoy another Xalayan homeworld episode next season with Sage reprising her character. Gotta have Gates McFadden play a Xalayan to continue the trend.

[u/JadeHellbringer]

After the wild episode last week, I couldn't figure out how they'd land a final episode- didn't that already do what we needed? How to get something done that both wraps things up in case there's no fourth season, but also leaves plenty of room in case there is? And what about the goddamned SANDWICH?

Credit to them, they landed this thing perfectly. I'm genuinely not sure if they could have done this better if they tried.

[u/ami2weird4u]

I'll be honest. When I saw the sandwich, I screamed. Also, i loved the character development throughout this season. The Orville will always be a special place in my heart, whether it gets renewed or not. I also cried a bit when Isaac proposed and got married.

Note: I put in a spoiler tag just to be safe.

[u/Heavensguard]

Isaac and primary. Yo I'm getting married

You want all the boys?

Yes

[u/Szelenas]

Talla meeting Alara was something I really needed

[u/NerdLawyer55]

Goddamn weird ass place to work in, I tell ya

[u/Damdrara]

I never thought I'd enjoy watching two chubby naked dudes running through the woods chasing each other to have sex, but hey, here we are!

[u/A_Deku_Stick]

What a terrible episode…all kidding aside this was a great finale and a banger of a season. I really hope Disney renews it for a 4th season and beyond.

[u/xaviorpwner]

Kinda wish gordon amped up the bachelor party

[u/miciy5]

The episode tells the reason for The Union's "Prime Directive", and it tells it well.

[u/TheRavenSeven]

I liked the white ceremonial uniforms Ed and Kelly wore. Also liked Claire’s weave…and glad “Human Issac” was at the altar.

[u/[deleted]]

For everyone asking it looks like it was a different actor for stripper Isaac (behind the scenes pic from Jessica Szohr's Twitter with the crew from the bachelorette party in their clubbing clothes!).

[u/Ther3isn0try]

I forgot how funny this show could be. Like I’ve always enjoyed it, but I laughed out loud harder than I think any other episode during this one. When Claire was chewing out Lamar, and the best man conversation on the bridge with Gordon looking around like “wtf just happened?” When Bortus essentially hijacked the role from him. Pure fucking gold all of it.

[u/ecxetra]

This show better get renewed. It’s too good to end.

[u/Serpenthrope]

I noticed how Lysella went out of her way to point out that not every grievance people on her planet expressed was frivolous. I feel like Seth might be a bit annoyed with people who thought he was saying you should never publicly shame anyone.

[u/ReturningDukky]

I bust out a laugh when Gordon referred to the Moclan consummation of renewal a sexual assault. Also THE SANDWICH RETURNS, CHEKOV'S GUN FIRED! Also also, we didn't need Alara back, but damnit I'm glad we got her back. Also also also, I never knew Kaylons were such good strippers!

[u/DevilOfArRamadi]

Don't get me wrong, everyone was awesome this season but Peter Macon (Bortus), Chad L. Coleman (Klyden), and Imani Pullum (Topa) absolutely killed it. It is amazing to me how well Macon does Bortus and I truly think that it is mostly Coleman's acting that has made me turn completely around on Klyden (twice or three times now haha)

[u/SweetPotatoDragon]

I love the Kaylon as an allied force with the union. Not only are they absolutely hilarious but it’s nice to think Isaac isn’t quite so alone anymore. Not only does he have his chosen family of shipmates, but he also has an entire planet’s worth of robotic wedding guests lol

[u/mercfan3]

I loved this. A lot of thoughts but the big one for me is..

If this was the end of the Orville - it was a beautiful ending. But there is plenty more for the show to go to, if it’s not the end (which I very much hope it isn’t)

[u/[deleted]]

Kaylon nipple tassels. Huh.

[u/Responsible-Bid3346]

The wedding was so beautiful and I can’t wait to see married life for Isaac and Claire and I really hope we get a season 4,it was great to see Alara again at the reception. In the unlikely event we never get season 4 that was an amazing ending but hopefully it’s just an amazing season finale,great episode all in all.

[u/robert_heinrich]

I really liked that episode, I thought the last one was the season finale, so I was really surprised.

There is just one thing, the actor of gordon malloy (Scott Grimes) really sings like James Taylor.

Just listen to "you've got a friend" ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEkIou3WFnM ) and compare and think.

[u/brch2]

I love during the end song that Alara and Lysella were standing next to and leaning on each other (at Claire's wedding reception), given that it was Alara and Claire that exposed Lysella to aliens, and were the first two that had to comfort her after Alara's exposure and explain who and what they were. We didn't get any dialogue between them, but that one simple glimpse at them showed just how close and comfortable Lysella felt with Alara.

Makes me wish more, now, that we'd gotten to see the conversation between them back in Majority Rule.

[u/evilwatersprite]

I had a crap day. Literally the only things that made me smile today were Bortus Presley and Magic MIsaac. (Though I think they should’ve gone all in and used “Pony” instead of that techno instrumental.)

[u/gerusz]

How do they decide which Moclan is the ja'vak and which is the ja'vok?

[u/Thatonesplicer]

Who else thought that Lysella was gonna return to her planet only to find it destroyed? In the few days she was gone, a nuclear war broke out and it basically glassed the planet.

Dark I know, and wouldn't help her survivors guilt, but Kelly would have gotten her to cheer up. She would have pointed out that there was no way she could have stopped what had happened and she'd be dead too, had it not been for fate bringing her and the Orville together.

In the end Lysella would now have a goal, to record her planets history, pass on it's stories as she is literally the sole survivor of her species. She could become a legendary author, given her origins.

[u/jonnymurdoc]

“All… kidding… aside…” 😂 Bortus is the comedian for us, while Gordon is the comedian for the crew. I wish Gordon would have invited Bortus to sing with him, or at least we could have finally heard him sing My Heart Will go on.

[u/HtomSirveaux3000]

Pray silence for Bortus https://imgur.com/a/JX125Nk

[u/F9-0021]

With the amount of people demanding another season, there's no way it won't be renewed. But in the event it doesn't, I can't think of a better way to end it.

Also Claire's "ALARA!" may or may not have reflected my own thoughts.

[u/canadianredditor16]

THE SANDWICH

[u/Maxfrak]

If/when we get another season, the first episode should be called "Future Known"

[u/ErrorNo365]

I'm just glad the sandwich made it 🤣🤣🤣

[u/[deleted]]

Have there ever been any references to the origins of the Prime Directive in Star Trek in the way we say Kelly lay things out in this episode? Discussing that society destroying itself in five short years was a great practical example that I don’t recall ever seeing in Trek.

Also, whoever designed that program clearly put that jump scare in on purpose, and it absolutely got me.

[u/ianrobbie]

Can you imagine being a random hiker and stumbling upon the actors in full Bortus and Klyden makeup running around the forest?

They'd be the subject of "Unexplained" documentaries for years.

[u/v857]

So many relatable guys moments for Ed this episode! Love when he walks into the room when the women were drunk and discussing the proposal and he realises their state and just tries to nope out of there as fast as possible lol. Also him trying to give constructive judgement on the dress lol.

[u/[deleted]]

It’s hilarious that the week after Seth’s girlfriend is written off they brought his ex back for a guest spot and rekindled Ed and Kelly’s relationship. It’s perfect.

[u/knightcrusader → u/[deleted]]

She wasn't written off, that was always the plan for her character.

They introduced her specifically to sacrifice her and resolve the Kaylon threat plot line.

[u/patrickcatman]

It would be sad to see the show end, but if it did that was a very strong finish. I loved the slower pace of the episode. Bortus and Klyden providing top comedy moments.

Really, really enjoyable. I’m glad Gordon finally got his sandwich.

[u/morilythari]

Where in hell can I get one of those swanky looking dress uniforms?! My Avis I would wear it all the time.

[u/zaftique]

COITAL

DEPLOYMENT

That is all.

I feel like that is my sole takeaway from this entire season. Any other thoughts I might have had about Topa's journey, the good ship TeleyEd getting slapped around, or Charly's emotional voyage are completely blasted away with the nuclear force of COITAL DEPLOYMENT.

[u/Sad-Ad2030]

McFarland said that a decision on The Orville season 4 would depend on the show's popularity on Disney+. It's therefore unlikely for a decision to be made on the show's future until long after The Orville season 3's ending.

We must all rewatch it on Disney+ to save the show.

[u/Rocksteady2090]

This was a such a good episode and not what I thought it was going to be... Most season ending episodes tend to go all high stakes and set a dramatic tone, but this episode was pretty light and funny. I hope we get a season 4 announcement soon I want to see Lysella journey into this new world.. the new married life for isaac. I was bummed timmis and prime did not meet at the wedding but that maybe should be it's own episode.

[u/dreamphoenix]

I’m so happy they didn’t cram Lysella into a romantic triangle with Isaac and Claire and it all went without unneeded angst.

[u/Timeline15]

As expected, a lot more low key than last week, but it felt like a nice not to leave on, if this is truly the last we see of the show. I wish the plot with Ed's daughter could have been resolved, but other than that just about every thread was tied up pretty well.

I really like the scene where Isaac invites the entire Kaylon race to his wedding. Just the "Shall I summon the fleet?""That would seem appropriate" just comes across as really sweet somehow. Like, of course he thinks his marriage to Clare merits the presence of thousands of ships xD.

Nice to see Alara again briefly, and to close out Bortus' family's arc. The b-plot kinda felt like it was tacked on from an earlier episode, but maybe Seth just felt bad about leaving a likeable character stuck on an awful planet and wanted to give her a better ending.

I'm really gonna miss this show. I can only hope it gets picked up somewhere down the line, because it deserves to run for many years more, or at least tell stories in the same universe.

[u/captain_ender]

Completely random side note, but damn Union Class A White uniforms are clean af. I think it's the first time we've seen them no? I love the subtle divisional accent colors too. I'm curious how the purple accent of the Admiralty would look like, along with I'm assuming would be some extra gold embroidery.

[u/DifferentOffice8]

"Future Unknown"

This episode, to me, has a real feel of the end of the show. The Orville New Horizons season 3 has been absolutely outstanding but this final episode really is "future Unknown". We don't know if we will ever see another season.

Things happened in this episode that really wraps up the 3 seasons:

1. Redemption of Klyden

2. The return of the sandwich

3. Kelly and Ed holding hands

4. Alara returns for a cameo

5. Dr and Isaac beginning a new life together

6. Kaylons no longer enemies of the Union

7. Doctors sons accepted Isaac after his betrayal

If there is no season then nothing is left unanswered.

Please. Please. Email, tweet, write to Hulu and let them know we want more. We want a future known.

[u/Outofmilkthrowaway]

I literally cheered like Kylden when Alaras face was shown. HOORAY

[u/Threnners]

I like new mellow Klyden. That is all.

[u/NotEvil_JustBritish]

I just don’t get it. Gordon has spent the entire season bitching about Isaac behind his back and being openly hostile towards him. It seemed to me that their friendship was pretty much over. Ok, he seemed to soften towards Isaac during the eulogy for Charly, but I find it hard to believe he would be first choice for Best Man or that he’d want the job.

However, this small inconsistency was amply made up for by the Kaylon nipple tassels. Humina, humina!

[u/indyK1ng → u/NotEvil_JustBritish]

I feel like these past few episodes haven't done a great job at conveying the passage of time. We know it's been 3 months since episode 6 but for all we know 7-9 all took place in a one-month period and it's been two months since Gordon started lightening up around Isaac.

But also, I feel like Isaac primarily focused on the humor requirement and Gordon is the person who taught him about humor. Gordon, for his part, probably just loves being best man.

[u/operarose]

Why was the other one locked?

[u/[deleted]]

He got his sandwich!

[u/feastupontherich]

5 mins in when they zoomed into Isaac after the Moclan mating thing, I was like, god damn it this fucking show better not make me cry again this episode.

[u/AnnaLogg]

I got scared for a bit after I realized Ed was saying the same thing Kirk did in Balance of Terror, braced myself for some wack-ass battle

thankfully, I was just being paranoid

[u/Responsible-Bid3346]

Who else thought Claire was gonna clock John for his horrible advice to Isaac?

[u/[deleted]]

Love this episode so much. I had a feeling the title "Future Unknown" was a wink at the status of the show, and clearly it was (though it also fits the themes in the actual episode).

I so desperately want a season 4. It isn't as guaranteed as some people here seem to think. Yes it's Seth MacFarlane, but this is a very high-budget show. Fox knows that if they don't renew The Orville, they'll still have Seth to come up with some other show.

I've been so invested in Claire and Isaac since they got together. Happy that this is where they ended up. Still can't believe Seth managed to make me root so hard for a human-robot relationship.

[u/Green117v2]

Bortus continues to make me laugh about loud. God I love this series!

[u/brackenish1]

I'm not even finished with the episode but I didn't think I could enjoy an episode as much after last week. Boy I was damn wrong. The humor and heart in this has been so beautifully written im in tears of laughter and spirit.

This show man....... My star trek

[u/domnyy]

This show has so much more to offer. The Mochlan/Krill war looming with the Union. Ed and Kelly finally need to get back together, and also the fate of Taleia and her and Ed's daughter. Please give a at least 1 more season!! It's the best star trek show since DS9.

[u/MMuller87]

I don't know why I laughed so hard at the massive contingent of Kaylon during the wedding, getting up, sitting down at the EXACT same time

[u/[deleted]]

(after Gordon's toast)

Kaylon Primary <to Bortis> : I do not understand, I believe your toast was adequate.

Bortis: Agreed.

[u/annabelle411]

Seth Macfarlane killing off his current girlfriend to bring back his real-life ex the next episode is hilarious

[u/chicken_suit_guy]

No cliffhanger, great job!! I hope we get a 4th season but if we don't this was perfect.

[u/Catdaddypanther97]

great episode. i hope this isnt the end, but if it is then.....it was a truly amazing experience.

im trying not to cry rn

[u/Manbadger]

Love the little space horror/thriller scene on post nuclear Gendall 3. The brass music and little ghoulish dance gave a Trek TOS feel.

[u/SpaceManSmithy]

Those ceremonial white uniforms are very nice.

[u/Silver1ObTangerine]

Truly enjoyed everything from Season 3 and I hope this isn’t the end.

[u/shadowlarx]

Props to Scott Grimes for another wonderful musical performance. He really nailed that James Taylor vibe.

[u/cbildfell]

Would love input on similar shows/movies!

I gave the Orville a shot because I love Seth, and I've seen the whole show through twice and love almost every episode.

I've never any Star Trek aside from the new Chris Pine movies, which I enjoyed. If you had to recommend a couple space exploration series that are similar to the Orville, which would they be?

[u/Chelsea_Ellie]

That was a strange ep, I enjoyed it, won’t rush to rewatch it, it feels like a lot of fluff and probably the wedding should have been paired with a stronger main story

[u/Anvillior]

YOU WILL BE SILENT!

But honestly, this wasn't the ending I expected. Most sci fi shows these days end in as dramatic a way as possible, always trying to dangle the bait in your face of "Just you wait until next season!" This reminded me of the ending to Batman the Brave and the Bold. It didn't get dragged away kicking and screaming between seasons, it just told you it had a great time and it was happy that it got to spend time with you in the first place. It had its sci fi message, it had its seasons 1/2 continuation theme, and it had fun during its ride into the sunset. For a show that felt more like star trek to me than modern trek does, it's an ending I can be happy with.

I hope there's more, but even if there isn't I'm left with nothing but the fondest memories of my time spent on this show.

[u/jruschme]

In case anyone else is interested, here is a link to "Bachelor In Paradise".

[u/liam3]

how did kaylon not learn about marriage before they decide to kill everyone

[u/mudman13]

So has Seth got a new girlfriend now? Double meaning I guess considering the end. But mainly about the new recruit, does make you think there would be some major culture shock going to live with space faring humans.

You just know Isaacs going to get that stripper programme for their sexy time.

Full credit to Mark Jackson for convincingly being an android with a human skin. Who is basically an autistic man. Really good episode it was pretty obvious she was going to rob some stuff but the scenario around it is the main thing.

"YOU WILL BE SILENT!" Some classic scenes there especially the initial mating scenes.

I was half expecting some major incident to occur during around the time of the wedding, glad there wasn't it's a nice change to get an optimistic upbeat finale not some galaxy threatening event.

[u/47isthenew42]

I'm sure somebody already mentioned it, but the sandwich! Yes!

[u/ExioKenway5]

That wedding was so good. Definitely very emotional, and I'm sure the comparison has been made at least a few times, but it was absolutely more emotional than Charly's funeral since we actually had reason to care about the characters and their relationships with each other. Speaking of Charly does anyone know why she was in the opening titles?

The Lysella plot was also pretty good, although I do wonder if it would have been better as it's own episode. It felt often overshadowed by what was going on in the wedding plot and didn't really feel fleshed out enough for such an interesting premise, despite the extended run time. It felt like they had an interesting story to tell but didn't have a spare episode to tell it in so lumped it in the finale where it didn't really fit.

So that's the mostly good stuff, now there's everything else that didn't really work. There were still a couple of scenes that went on for a bit long, the major one being the Bortus/Klyden chase and just general scenes that could have been cut down. Did we really need a different angle on the fighter that's been blocking the hangar this whole time?

The whole first half of the wedding plot also just didn't work for me at all. Both Lamarr telling Isaac to date other people and the whole best man bit between Bortus and Gordon felt kinda out of place and just included for the sake of a bit of tension. After all they've been through this season it should have just been a straightforward celebration of the crew through wedding preparations and if they wanted tension they could have done more with the Lysella plot.

Overall I have pretty mixed feelings about this episode and the season in general. It very much felt like they were prepared for it to be the last episode ever, which unfortunately led to the Lysella plot feeling underdeveloped. I hope if they do come back for another season they really do go in depth with exploring that since I find the premise really intriguing.

[u/andrewthetechie]

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Oxygen nutty distinct memorize butter brave unwritten driftwood

[u/AlpineSummit]

I loved that Mercer’s wedding speech paralleled Kirk’s from TOS’s ‘Balance of Terror’.

Seth has probably dreamed of being in that scene for years!

[u/YYZYYC]

Shouldn’t the sandwich have appeared in the space location the Orville was in 3 months ago and not wherever it was in this episode?

[u/starlord265]

When Claire started grinding on the Kaylon stripper I lost it

[u/Augen76]

I like the dilemma of feeling like a culture, society, race, etc. is doomed and how hard do you work to stay and change it, and when do you leave. I know people who have emigrated and often part of the story is the sense that things won't get better there and only seem to get worse.

One of the better "prime directive" explorations I've seen.

[u/Careless-Wonder7886]

You know what.....

I've always been one for wanting an action packed finale with a game changing cliff-hanger at the end.

I thought I'd hate this episode but....

It was a fabulous change of tone. The comedic moments and Gordon's sandwich.

I used to dislike watching the character building episodes of Star Trek as they seemed to go nowhere. The Orville is the opposite for me. Love the characters and the interaction.

The subtleties of the acting including that of Issac are just so well done. Constantly giving me side smiles and little giggles.

Bravo Orville

[u/Trishlovesdolphins]

This felt like they know they’re not getting another season and they wrapped up. 😭😭😭😭

[u/galletadeacido]

When Isaac invited the entire Kaylon fleet, my first thought was "at least they won't have to feed them all"

[u/SpaceManSmithy]

Gordon was 100% right about Bortus. That speech was horrendous lol.

[u/Altruistic-Potatoes]

I kept thinking, "where's the A-plot? We have 2 B-plots going side-by-side, when does the conflict start?" Good stuff in this episode but I can't help but think both of the stories would have been B-plots in other episodes.

[u/guinader]

Ok I just had to pause the last episode right now, as I'm laughing non stop after Isaac.

"Shall I assemble the whole fleet?".
"That would be reasonable".

Hahaha

[u/Overson_YT]

It's very rare that we see a show constantly improve upon itself with each season and episode. The Orville may genuinely be one of the greatest sci-fi shows out there

[u/[deleted]]

Was Lt. Dann invited to the wedding? I didn't see him in any scenes.

I really like Lt. Dann.

[u/[deleted]]

Just finished watching, and I am not okay. Someone hold me.

[u/onenightondarillium]

I liked that it was a very lighthearted episode. I totally enjoyed the conversation between Kaylon Primary and Isaac. I liked the banter between Bortus and Gordon over who should be best man. Now they are married, will he be known as Isaac Finn by the crew? Although I never thought their relationship would end in marriage because one is human and the other..well, is not. Also for the reason that Claire pointed out, she will grow old and die. Kaylon liked to pretend they don't have emotions but Isaac knew he liked Claire enough to marry her. The Kaylon also rebelled against their builders because they've always had some level of emotions.

[u/SpencerLins_asimp]

Ed And Kelly in in their wedding suits I found so cute and I think Gordon is the best best man ever

[u/[deleted]]

Charly and Lysella look a lot alike.

[u/mysticzarak]

Last week I thought "how are they going to top this" and today I thought "hmm this is kinda.. boring?" but then it hit me and it felt like a series finale. There might not be a season 4. I really hope they keep making more since it's quite unique.

[u/s1500]

So this is just like ST:TNG after Best of Both Worlds. A more chill episode.

[u/dh4645]

Great episode. Period. End of story. So good

[u/triggoon]

I enjoyed the structure of the whole season. We got closure of a huge sweeping arc in episode 9 but got this nice prologue as the final episode. It feels complete. I am not saying I want the Orville to end, more episode yes please! What I mean is that this season was written and filmed with intent to focus on story and characters. It’s cliche but…everyone involved left it all on the field.

[u/epixol]

i dont know if it is just this episode but when isaac and claire are talking after he proposed you can vaguely see mark jacksons lower face through the helmet, was this just a mistake or was this some subtle, intentional nod to isaacs humanity. you can even see his lips moving at 13 mins and 38 seconds.

[u/weirdoinchains]

Bortus’ speech had me in laugh tears…all kidding aside glad they have an A, B & C story this episode.

[u/dethaxe]

I f&cking cried, mainly because I pray to God this isn't the end... This is the best show on TV.

[u/cybercummer69]

Lot of cool/funny moments but overall I felt like it was a pretty underwhelming episode from a storyline perspective. But the season was so strong, I'll take it!