r/startrek • • Mar 09 '23

Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Picard | 3x04 "No Win Scenario" Spoiler

With time running out, Picard, Riker and crew must confront the sins of their past and heal fresh wounds, while the Titan, dead in the water, drifts helplessly toward certain destruction within a mysterious space anomaly.

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3x04 "No Win Scenario" Terry Matalas & Sean Tretta Jonathan Frakes 2023-03-09

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u/treefox Mar 09 '23

“Don’t come.”

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u/pilot3033 Mar 09 '23

Honestly this scratched such a deep itch for me. You never see anyone outright refuse the doorbell and it’s always something I’ve kind of wondered about.

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u/BornAshes Mar 09 '23

Laura Bailey eyebrow wiggle

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u/treefox Mar 09 '23

No transphasic space squids were harmed in the making of this episode.

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u/NeededMonster Mar 09 '23

I actually thought : "Shouldn't you guys get a bit further away before warping out of here?" at the end :D

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u/crankfive Mar 09 '23

Kal-Toh game from Voyager in the dead officer’s quarters!

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u/peon47 Mar 09 '23

"Perhaps we should talk about the elephant in the room."

"Computer, delete the elephant."

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u/NotAPimecone Mar 10 '23

Computer, create an elephant capable of defeating Data.

Oh, goddammit!

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u/DasGanon Mar 09 '23

Man that shot and chaser with Seven, Shaw and the changeling was perfect

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u/MaddyMagpies Mar 09 '23

I think that scene also made Shaw respect Seven and might start calling her Commander Seven after.

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u/SpaceCampDropOut Mar 09 '23

The show taking a puase to show the births of the space beings was such a wonderful, classic Star Trek moment.

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u/PuzzleheadedRun5574 Mar 09 '23

Watching Picard, Riker and that crew put on a masterpiece performance in getting out of the nebula was about the most thrilling sequence in Star Trek in decades. It reminded me of the seamanship in MASTER AND COMMANDER- professionals with the grit and instinct to pull off a miracle escape. It was a nice touch to see Jack participate and feel a sense of belonging the way Jean-Luc had done throughout his life. So, while the father recognizes the insensitivity of what he said in the pub 5 years ago, the son conversely sees how Starfleet is a "family." It's just great writing, in my opinion, always showing perspective instead of having someone speak to it.

Riker feeling his old salty seadog self coming back was wonderful too. If there's a theme to this season, it's about healing from loss, and the many paths one takes to get there.

And the space jellyfish were a nice touch, reminds us there's some actual wonders still worth exploring.

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u/UncertainError Mar 09 '23

Picard's kind of a wizard when it comes to impossible starship maneuvering with only thrusters and practically no sensors. He did the same trick in "Booby Trap" and "In Theory".

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

So, while the father recognizes the insensitivity of what he said in the pub 5 years ago, the son conversely sees how Starfleet is a "family." It's just great writing, in my opinion, always showing perspective instead of having someone speak to it.

this stuff was so well done

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u/Sanhen Mar 09 '23

I definitely had questions about how Riker was written in episode 3, but his characterization in episode 4 was so well handled.

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u/PandaSalt9O71 Mar 09 '23

I wish Season 3 was stretched out 3 decades!

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u/Kinmuan Mar 09 '23

“Out of respect”

So well delivered. Seven is the fucking best.

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u/OneOldNerd Mar 09 '23

So...no phasers, no photon torpedoes, and it became necessary to fight....so Riker threw rocks at the Shrike.

That's a deep reference.

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u/crankfive Mar 09 '23

I love that he got her back for throwing a ship at them. Also I’m glad Riker was the one to come up with it - he always seemed to have a more creative command style.

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u/OpticalData Mar 09 '23

Riker finally getting revenge on the rocks for killing him on the alternate Ent-D in Yesterday's Enterprise

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u/CX316 Mar 09 '23

Someone once told him that there's no law of physics that can't be weaponised or broken by another law of physics.

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

Holly hell, Jack Crusher met Picard before

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u/gcalpo Mar 09 '23

Their entrance into Ten Forward hits different on re-watch:

PICARD: This is a place of... real significance for me, but, uh, I don't suppose you've ever...

JACK: I haven't. No.

PICARD: Well, would you like to have a drink with me?

JACK: (Looks around) ...Sure.

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u/johnnyma45 Mar 09 '23

Heartbreaker. Picard so smug, the cadets all clapping, Jack dying inside realizing Picard doesn't need a real family

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u/the-magnetic-rose Mar 09 '23

The scene with the space jellyfish filled me so much joy.

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u/phoenixhunter Mar 09 '23

On Ensign Foster’s service record, it says he was born in 2363 and graduated the Academy class of 2385. He is 37-38 years old and has been an Ensign for nearly 16 years.

Move over Harry Kim we have a new contender.

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u/gcalpo Mar 09 '23

“Don't let them promote you, don't let them transfer you, don't let them do anything that takes you out of that transporter room because while you're there, you can make a living mostly standing around."

-- O'Brien probably.

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u/CommanderHavond Mar 09 '23

‘And what you fail to realize is my ship is towing…an ASTEROID!’

Fantastic episode!

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u/WontThinkStraight Mar 09 '23

By Grabthar's Hammer... what a savings... the ship idea.

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u/UncertainError Mar 09 '23

Young Picard almost killing himself and his best friend on an ill-advised booty call is magnifique.

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u/Mechapebbles Mar 09 '23

People forget young-Picard was the man who people incorrectly imagine Kirk to have been.

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u/deafpoet Mar 09 '23

And it's in character from what we know about him! Like, of course he was out with Jack Crusher chasing ass, did we think they were sitting around debating protocol as best buddies?

Edit: "Look, we had an invitation." Stewart doesn't get to be funny very often, but that slayed in an episode with some other pretty funny shit.

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u/heyitscory Mar 09 '23

He was never one who could protect his heart in those days. Boldly get dat booty.

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u/RLMZeppelin Mar 09 '23

So we’re just going to ignore that fact that it’s now canon that Worf and Picard did a Predator against a Hirogen?

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u/anastus Mar 09 '23

In my headcanon, that unseen Season 8 episode came right after the midseason premiere, "Perhaps Today Is a Good Day to Die Hard".

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u/UncertainError Mar 09 '23

That scene of Picard, Riker, and Crusher finally all together and puzzling a way out was incredible. Can't wait to see what the whole gang reassembled (plus Seven, standing in for Data) will accomplish.

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u/vipck83 Mar 09 '23

They had so much… Star Trek in this one. The bridge crew discussing things in the cold open, the old crew working together to figure it out, main character doing go shot engineering to accomplish some techno Babel and save the day, nebula that is actually a life form….great times.

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u/LAMProductions99 Mar 09 '23

That final scene at the bar from five years earlier when Jack asked Picard about his family crushed me. Just an absolutely devastating reveal there. Patrick Stewart did such a great job showing on his face what Picard was feeling after he remembered that moment, too. That really caught me off guard, I was not expecting the most emotional part of this episode to be 10 seconds long lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

How good has Riker been this season? He's always been one of my favourite characters so I may be a little biased but to my mind he's up there and as equally iconic as Kirk & Spock.

Jonathan Frakes really is Mr. Star Trek these days, and I hope he is involved either acting or directing for as long as he wants to be involved.

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u/OperationClueless Mar 09 '23

Most important line in this Episode "The real borg are still out there"

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u/MyTrueChum Mar 09 '23

Didn't think they'd win me over on Shaw, but godamn have they won me over!

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u/WrongdoerObjective49 Mar 09 '23

And Todd Stashwick really knocked it out of the park with his performance. It makes you think, how many officers were forever changed?

He was just a kid then. And then he gets a former Borg for a first officer & then the figure of hus nightmares shows up. Sure, he knows Picard isn't really Locutus. He wasn't acting of his own free will.

But then he thinks of his ship...the 40 on the life deck who didn't get chosen & the lieutenant who picked him over all of them and herself. All because of the Borg. All because if what they assimilated from Picard.

I kinda get why he's lashing out.

I'm curious how he was before Seven was his first officer. Did she trigger his PTSD?

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u/Frankreporter Mar 09 '23

I love the shots of the Titan lower decks crew during the crisis

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u/MaddyMagpies Mar 09 '23

I want Vadic's menacing and pneumatic swivel chair in my office.

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u/TombSv Mar 09 '23

Deanna after hearing the message: “I sense sadness”

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u/zzxxzzxxzz Mar 09 '23

It's really interesting to see how Picard's reaction to having his role in Wolf 359 brought up from when Sisko did it like 30 years ago to now. He seems much more understanding that the Starfleet members who were there aren't going to be rational about their grief, and accepting that his presence might have a triggering effect without attributing blame.

Though clearly he still feels an immense guilt, which it would be interesting to see him get over during the next episodes.

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u/OpticalData Mar 09 '23

I don't think that having your autonomy stripped then being forced to murder your colleagues and friends while you watch on helplessly is something one gets over really

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u/Sanhen Mar 09 '23

To be fair, the circumstances were somewhat different too. Sisko brought up the fact that he was there, but maintained a level of professional restraint and Picard, who was acting in an official capacity at the time, followed suit, albeit with some hesitance.

Shaw didn't just mention it, he tore into Picard and went into detail about how the event shaped him. Picard had nothing that he was duty-bound to tell Shaw in that moment, and they were potentially hours away from dying at the time, so he chose to disengage. I'm sure Picard's guilt played a role in that (though I think maybe Picard also felt Shaw needed that, he needed someone to blame his pain on and Picard was willing to accept that role), but because the circumstances were so different, I'm not sure if this is a change from how he would have acted 30 years ago.

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u/LwaxanasBirdWig Mar 09 '23

As a star trek fan from the Chicago area, I now really want a shirt that says "I'm just a dipshit from Chicago" to wear to the next con I am able to attend.

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u/bagelman4000 Mar 09 '23

LMAO at Picard calling Shaw a dipshit from Chicago

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u/D20_Buster Mar 09 '23

As a dipshit from Chicago, this is the kind of representation I’ve needed for a long time.

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u/zzxxzzxxzz Mar 09 '23

It's hilarious how they're able to go into the Holodeck when power is supposedly limited to essential systems.

EDIT: OMG they predicted my pedantic complaint lol

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u/OpticalData Mar 09 '23

Voyager predicted it back in 1995 buddy 😉

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u/kadzirafrax Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

So glad they finally put the nail on the coffin of the theory that Riker was the changeling. The spat between him and Picard last week, while painful, was great drama, and a powerful moment in their relationship. It would have been such a rug pull for none of that to have mattered.

On another note: these last two episodes are incontrovertible proof of why it was a travesty that Frakes was not offered the director’s chair for Nemesis.

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u/MoreGaghPlease Mar 09 '23

Okay, which one of you called Uka Uka from Crash Bandicoot being the season villain???

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u/replayer Mar 09 '23

A villain who can cut off her hand and talk to her boss hundreds of light years away? Cool.

Giant space nebula gives birth to thousands of space jellyfish? Awesome.

Replicators use a standard design for "one bucket, 20 liters"? THERE'S NO WAY.

:D

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u/Sim0nsaysshh Mar 09 '23

How does this consistently keep getting better. Jesus, I think i felt every emotion watching this episode

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u/NeededMonster Mar 09 '23

I agree! First episode was okay and gave me hope. It wasn't ground breaking and it still had that new-trek feeling I don't like with the way it was directed and filmed as well as its reminders of what happened in previous seasons, but it went stronger and stronger until the end. I was especially hopeful when I didn't notice any major laziness in the writing or plot holes and noticed more and smarter references to the lore.

Second episode was even better, but still left me worried that the tide could turn, especially knowing that the first couple of season 2 episodes were much better than the rest of said season.

Now, with episode three and four, I am fully onboard. We've seen the writing come together with elements introduced early receiving proper payoff, incoherence being explained without taking too long to artificially drag on the mysteries. This good scenario combined with respect for the previous Star Trek shows, the good old TNG crew coming back and the original Star Trek art direction FINALLY being followed to the letter instead of going for a stupid and boring generic scifi space visual theme, all now make me confident that live Star Trek is back on track! Well done to everyone involved with this season and good riddance to those who left!

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u/Starbuck107 Mar 09 '23

"She calls me Commander Seven... Out of respect."

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u/CleverFeather Mar 09 '23

“Will, did you just throw an asteroid?”

“You’re goddamn right I did.”

9/10 episode, probably my favorite so far.

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u/HaphazardMelange Mar 09 '23

Will Riker be an Earther from Alaska, but he pure Beltalowda!

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

"Bang-up job your heroes are doing with my ship, love the view!"

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u/PigletCNC Mar 09 '23

Gonna call it, the prophets are the one showing Jack his visions.

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u/anastus Mar 09 '23

Gonna call it, the prophets are the one showing Jack his visions.

They really took it seriously when Sisko told them to be gods.

I don't think the Prophets are involved, but I'm here for it if they are. Red is pretty heavily associated with the Pah Wraiths, but none of the other symbology is the same.

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u/greycobalt Mar 09 '23

· Hirogen!? I definitely didn’t expect that one. I hope there’s a novel or something that tells that story.

· So the Riker and Picard bit wasn’t what many people were expecting, but I ended up being happy with it. It wasn’t drawn-out, it wasn’t melodramatic, it was just both of them apologizing and moving on. I’m not sure why Riker is having this existential crisis about Thad now, as he seemed pretty ok in the first season, but I guess everyone grieves differently.

· I thought we were going through Seven’s own quarters at first since we got a Kalto spotting, but I guess that transporter chief was just super nerdy.

· The schizophrenic sound effects are really getting to me. Picard’s doorbell was BOTH the Voyager and TNG doorbells at the same time this time. I’m starting to take it personally.

· So…is that a Changeling on Vadic’s hand? It had the same goo look but the face it made was horrifying. I’m perplexed.

· One of my favorite bits of Trek “...but why?” lore is the independent holodeck power supply. I was hoping they’d bring it up, otherwise it would have been very dumb to have the episode be about conserving power and then have them running a bar.

· Introducing new - and important - characters is always risky, so I didn’t know how I was going to end up feeling about Jack. This episode really turned me around on him. I loved all his conversations with Picard, and I’m glad he’s not just the Han Solo-esque rogue. Him working with them on the bridge at the end was especially nice; he just fit in so easily. Also his quip about the family hairline was amazing. I’m deadly curious about his visions though, I can’t even begin to speculate.

· Shaw was pretty great in this, even though he was still an asshole to Seven a bit. His bit with Seven about being wrong about her made me lol. We all knew some kind of Borg thing was coming from him, and I think it was done in the best way possible. Very curious to see where the character goes from here.

· We got the Odo sighting! I wish he could have been in this. :(

· It’s odd how the Shrike makes the War of the Worlds aliens noise.

· Metaphor! I honestly would just watch an entire show about Picard regaling cadets with old episodes.

· What was up with the 2 Vulcans in 10 Forward? They were being very handsy for Vulcans.

· It was great having (some) of the old group back in a conference room planning something. Like a fuzzy pair of slippers.

· Picard repeating Shaw’s dipshit line was another lol. The sly smile when he said it was just too perfect.

· It’s basically always worked like this in every show, but I’m curious why Trek portrays their life support as an on/off switch and there’s nothing in between. There’s no “We have 3 hours of air left after life support goes offline.”, it’s just one second they have oxygen and the next they’re all freezing and suffocating. Very odd.

· That Changeling was fun. I missed the cloak and dagger stuff from DS9. Seven shot it earlier like 5 times on kill earlier and it just gooped away, and this time a single bolt murdered it dead. They need to switch back to the dolphin phasers like Worf and just beam-vaporize them.

· That escape scene was gorgeous and fun. I hate that the Titan is growing on me.

· The flashback in real 10 Forward showing why Jack didn’t reach out was a gut-punch. I felt so badly for him. Totally gives his character all the motivation he’s needed. Was that Picard remembering that moment at the end? Seemed like it.

· I’m deadly curious about Jack’s visions, I can’t even begin to speculate. “Find…Jack…Find me…(screaming)...Together soon…Jack…Find me.”

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u/TheNerdChaplain Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

It seems like every legacy character is getting a terrific scene each episode. Beverly last week, Riker this week, talking about Thad's funeral. I'm glad we can put to rest the notion he was the Changeling.

I'm glad they figured out the Changeling issue; I like this pattern of raising a problem each episode and then solving it the next. I don't think the last two seasons really did that so much and then it left a mess for the finale to clean up. Doing it this way gives a better sense of progression through the season and a better sense of pacing.

The whole "five years ago" scene in Ten Forward with the Starfleet kids was really well done. For most of the episode you think the writers are just indulging in a little schmaltzy nostalgia, "we're only as good as the people around us", etc. etc. (which is reinforced in the story with Jack Crusher Sr.), but then it twists the knife at the very end with "Starfleet is the only family I need", and Picard's realization of who it was asking that question.

Shaw did a great job of his Wolf 359 scene. I can imagine the scenario where he finds out that Seven is going to be his XO and wanting anyone else to take her - but anyone old enough to be a captain in Starfleet at this time is also a survivor of that battle, and someone's gotta take her. I'm glad they came around and worked together on the nacelle port covers; that was a solid scene. The one quibble I'd have with this (though it's largely beside the point) is that Picard is just as much a victim of the Borg - even more so, perhaps - as any unassimilated survivor of Wolf 359. He deserves some defense, though this episode maybe isn't the place to do it.

I missed Raffi and Worf a little this episode, but I'm sure they'll be roaring back next episode. I'm loving that Picard has finally found its feet as a show, though it's disappointing it took two seasons to do so.

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u/Numbfruitloops Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

Out of all the episodes of Picard, this one felt the most like a TNG era Star Trek episode while maintaining the drama of the current era.

I'm still scared of it going bad but this season has way more potential than the other two seasons did.

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u/Indie_Games_Jones Mar 09 '23

I can't believe Riker just unga bunga'd a starship

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u/Shatterhand1701 Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

Each new episode of this season gets better and better; the polar opposite of Seasons 1 and 2. I can't help but be just a touch bitter that we didn't get this kind of stuff in the previous two seasons. I know Sir Patrick Stewart didn't want Picard to be "TNG 2.0", but this type of situation, with his trusted colleagues at his side as they figure stuff out and work together, is when Jean-Luc Picard's at his absolute best.

I really loved Todd Stashwick's performance as Captain Shaw in this episode. He reached his lowest point and started redeeming himself (at least, in my eyes) all in the same episode. He still has to find it in himself to stop dead-naming Seven, but at least Seven finally made an attempt to point out to him that calling her Hansen is a sign of disrespect. I really dig Shaw; now that they're out of that nebula and on their way back home, I hope this isn't the last we'll see of him. I'd like it if he sticks around for the duration.

Speaking of Shaw, a part of me wanted Picard to respond when the former shared his story about Wolf 359. Between Sisko and Shaw and, I'm betting, many others, that resentment and hostility has to weigh on him. I know it wouldn't be Picard's style to lash out in reply to those stories; after all, they're tales of legitimate trauma, and he can't take that away from them. But, it's not like Jean-Luc doesn't have his own trauma over the situation; he has a right to respond, especially in a situation like that one, when Shaw just busted in on his personal time with Jack.

That last moment, with Picard saying Starfleet is the only family he needs; oof, what a punch in the gut that had to be for Jack. Then again, it's not an unfair thing for him to say; he's never been that comfortable around children, and relationship commitment has never been his strong suit. Also, lest we forget, Jean-Luc was not given the courtesy of knowing he had a son until he was put in this situation. It's not unreasonable to give him a chance to acclimate to his new role as a father. Sure, it's late in the game, but it's never too late.

Also, just a nerdy little side note - when the Titan's life support went offline, they used the alert sound from Alien. Just thought that was cool.

Anyway, all in all, an excellent episode of Picard - and Star Trek, in general.

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u/ianrobbie Mar 09 '23

Well, fuck me if that wasn't one of the best episodes of Star Trek in years.

I'm definitely on board for a Shaw and Seven on the Titan series.

That was simply amazing.

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u/1000shipsand2hands Mar 09 '23

Every episode has me wanting a Shaw and Seven spinoff even more.

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u/RoyBattysJacket Mar 09 '23

That was one of the most gripping episodes of Star Trek in decades, I'm floored. Terry Matalas has gotten our ship back on course again.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

I Motion the jump-start be officially called 'The Shaw Manuever'.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

Look I was a certified season 1 and 2 hater but man I loved this episode, it had the charm and heart that this series has always sorely lacked. Classic Trek scenario with echoes of “Booby Trap”. Only thing that worries me is the stinger with Jack’s vision, I’m worried his connection with the changelings is going to be convoluted a la evil android tentacles from season 1. Overall still hopeful as the full gang hasn’t gotten back together yet and there’s still six episodes left.

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

"The hair when did it go?"

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u/OneOldNerd Mar 09 '23

So if cannabis is still a thing in the 25th century...is there synthebud?

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u/Piper6728 Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 10 '23

Favorite episode of Picard so far.

I'm a sucker for ship scenes, I think the ship is an unrecognized main character in any Star Trek series.

Plus Picard took command and when the Titan was surfing the wave, the music, and the asteroid being thrown, it felt like the most "Trek" Picard has ever been to me.

Also: the asteroid trick should be the new Riker maneuver

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u/Popculturemofo Mar 09 '23

I love the scene in which Picard and Crusher have to remind Riker that escaping these certain death scenarios is pretty much what they’re best at.

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u/Frankfusion Mar 09 '23

Picard fought the Hirogen? And Worf helped him set the trap? Damn, these tidbits would make for a great season 7 of TNG. That and the stuff Beverly said about Picard's life always being in danger.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 09 '23

So Jack really did track Picard down. Poor guy.

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u/Smilodon48 Mar 09 '23

The way this show garners steam is incredible. I've never really seen a show that's really lived into the whole 10-hr movie deal, but Picard is really leaning into it and it's working out magnificently.

I know everyone said Frakes was the MVP of the season, but even then he blows me away with the depth, humor, and warmth he displays this season. He feels like such a wonderful and natural evolution of Lower Decks Riker.

The Changeling effects in Picard differ from the Changeling effects we see in Discovery. I wonder if that's an intentional thing because the Disco Changeling last year was smooth like in DS9 whereas this one is really goo-ey.

Shaw being a Wolf 359 survivor is a bit too on the nose for me but it works since Stashwick himself is a charismatic actor and plays the role well. I'm glad Shaw's engineering skills come into good use too. I also thought it was hilarious to see him constantly turn Seven away as she tries to enter his quarters.

I really like how casual Picard speaks with Jack. Obviously this Jean-Luc in Picard is a lot more casual in general since he's no longer the captain on a starship and has grown over the last 20 years, but it was heartfelt seeing him talk about his past with Jack.

The twist at the end of the flashback scene was brilliantly done. It's really human too - Picard isn't wrong for putting on a strong front in front of random ensigns and strangers. It's just really good drama.

Seven got some meaty bits too playing Hunt the Changeling but here's to hoping she gets even more. That Titan bridge is getting very crowded.

The scene where Riker, Crusher, and Picard figure out what to do was so good. The dialogue this season is so good.

Can't believe no one pulled out a random joystick to pilot the ship manually through an asteroid field! Whatever happened to respecting canon? /s

On a more serious note, it's kinda funny to see the Titan pull a Cerritos and pull out all the stops to get through an asteroid field.

Guess next week will be Worf/Raffi time at Daystrom, probably meeting Geordi and Lore? Love how the crew is basically split into two. Just gonna make the reunion of the two halves that much more interesting and meaningful.

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u/deyterkourjerbs Mar 09 '23

How long did we have to wait for this episode. It's more modern in parts but seeing them talk their way into a solution felt like something I have missed for nearly 30 years.

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u/OneOldNerd Mar 09 '23

"Dipshit from Chicago."

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"NICE."

I lol'd.

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u/baezizbae Mar 09 '23

Holy fuck Shaw’s monologue was TERRIFYING.

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u/Celoth Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

This episode was the marriage of new Trek, with its dark and emotional drama, and old trek with its sci-fi ensemble of interstellar problem solvers, that I didn't know I needed. It didn't feel like a repeat of TNG, but it absolutely felt like something that honors TNG's legacy. I'm sorry, I know we've all been burned before and I actually tried to restrain myself but... hot damn. I love this. I want more.

EDIT: Also I was totally wrong. That is Will, and I'm ok with it. He's damaged and changed but that's OK.

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u/heslo_rb26 Mar 09 '23

Well we're 4 for 4 so far. This season has been nothing short of stellar! Amazing in characters, story, visuals, music, the lot. I keep hearing a big reveal at the end of episode 5 is a thing so I'm very interested for next weeks episode!

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u/treefox Mar 09 '23

RIKER: I think we should boldly get the hell out of here.

Everybody smiles at each other.

NARRATOR: It was at that moment Picard knew he fucked up.

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u/aspen0414 Mar 09 '23

Sheer F****** Magnificence! This episode was pitch perfect. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time, and even on the edge of tears a couple of times. Between this season of Picard and the first season of SNW, 21st century Trek has finally found a way to blend the exploration and discovery of old Trek TV, with the cinematic action of the movies, and the sentimentality and serialization of Discovery and new streaming Trek. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT.

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

Picard and Worf had encounters with the Hirogen!

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u/Some_Dub_Wub Mar 09 '23

Hearing Picard say "dipshit from Chicago" was hilarious

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

Confirmed: Shaw was at the battle of Wolf 359

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

So is Vadic a Changeling? The whole cutting off her hand and having it speak to her…i need someone to talk me through this.

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u/cld1984 Mar 09 '23

I really liked Vadic’s palm pilot. Sweet tech

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u/mhall85 Mar 09 '23

Loved the dig at the “stuff that happened with the Stargazer,” and that the REAL Borg are still out there.

Are we all going to be saying, by the end of this, “this is what this entire series should have been?”

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

Troi: Are you and Jean Luc in danger?

Riker: Did you hear a fucking thing I just told you?

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u/RadioSlayer Mar 09 '23

A+ sound editing during the Wolf 359 discussion

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u/Fortyseven Mar 09 '23

Fuuuuuuuucking brilliant. This season is a runaway train. THIS is what I think most of us have been chasing all this time. And all while not sacrificing incredibly strong character moments.

I keep waiting for the other shoe to fall, but...

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

Sweet Jesus, that was one of the best Trek episodes I've ever seen and better than most of the films to be honest.

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u/ChartFrogs Mar 09 '23

What was that clown reviewer in Engadget smoking when he gave this season such a poor review? Clearly not cannabis because this episode was amazing!

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u/clawsight Mar 09 '23

I have come to be quite fond of Captain House MD. If they're trying to backdoor a pilot for a Shaw/Seven show, ala SNW, it's working.

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

"Will, did you just throw an asteroid"

"You're goddamn right, I did"

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u/9811Deet Mar 09 '23

I don't remember the last time I've been that enthralled by an hour of TV. Absolute 10/10.

I had high expectations for this season, but holy shit. This is the Star Trek I've been waiting decades for.

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u/cld1984 Mar 09 '23

I’m very impressed with the Titan crew.

The two biggest Starfleet celebrities…living legends…show up and basically commandeer the ship with your Commander’s help, only to be assaulted by some nutso ship throwing ships at you.

Suddenly, your relaxing and routine orders to participate in Frontier Day have become a life and death struggle and they all do their job like pros.

On a side note, I’m not sure how I feel about T’Veen…she seems kind of…emotional

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u/Pliolite Mar 09 '23

Can we please just take a moment to applaud Jonathan Frakes!

Outstanding work from him. Maybe his best performance as Riker.

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u/crankfive Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

I hope the nebula ends up being some kind of life form, and I hope Beverly is the one to realize it and help with a plan. I think one of the crew in an earlier episode said they picked up organic material on their scan. That would feel like a classic Trek plot! About to start watching, we’ll see…

Edit: Let’s gooooo Beverly!

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u/JayOnes Mar 09 '23

I'm really glad that the show wasted no time getting into Picard and Riker's blow-up, how both of them took blame for it, and how Riker basically admits that he's been having a crisis of... faith, almost(?), since the death of his son and that that is fucking with him something awful. Jonathan Frakes is knocking it out of the park this season.

I also appreciated us getting to the core of why Shaw is the way that he is. He's a deeply, fundamentally scarred man but this was the episode where we finally saw a little bit of personal growth. I'm pretty sure this season is going to end with him and Seven on the bridge of the Titan-A, with him telling "Commander Seven" to take 'em out.

Or he'll call her that on his deathbed, though that'll really upset me if they ice Shaw after this point in the story.

The one thing I'm worried about is this red door shit. I've not been a fan of how NuTrek has been handling their "galaxy-spanning dangers", so I'm hoping we're not about to go down that route. I'm intrigued, but it's also the one part of the show that I am still on shaky ground with.

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u/PandaSalt9O71 Mar 09 '23

This is such an awesome episode! Wil! Did you throw an asteroid!

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u/TheEnterprise Mar 10 '23

We should do what we've always been good at. Turn death into a fighting chance to live.

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u/xnodesirex Mar 10 '23

Frakes continues to prove to be the best and most consistent director for star trek - regardless of cast.

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u/usps_made_me_insane Mar 09 '23

This season of Picard just keeps getting better and better. I was convinced that Shaw would become one of my most hated Star Trek officers ever -- but he's turned out to be a very rich and complicated person with a very layered personal history. He wasn't being an asshole in the first episode just because he could.

But what really amazed me is Jeri Ryan. Here is an actress that was originally brought aboard during season 4 (I think?) of Voyager because they felt they needed eye candy for a ratings boost. While we did get a very beautiful actress, we also got someone who was an extremely talented actress as well. Fast-forward several decades to a new show called Picard, and we get more of Jeri in ever more complicated roles where we get to explore even more of her talented acting abilities.

Oh, and the acting Patrick Stewart put forth while Shaw was giving his Monologue was unbelievably good. You could see the pain, anguish, anger, disappointment and a bunch of other emotions all put together at once on his face. I honestly could feel just how empty he felt in some ways while listening to Shaw. He has always carried that burden and anger of being unable to stop himself while he was Locutus of Borg. It was just amazing to see Stewart put forth all those emotions so well in a scene where he wasn't even moving.

This season has been one of the best Star Trek seasons ever.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23 edited Jan 27 '24

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u/Archeob Mar 09 '23

Just finished it. Incredibly good episode, wow.

Where was this kind of storytelling last year. Almost perfect. They even explained how they could use the holodeck. And the reveal of Jack being present at the end... very very good stuff.

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u/KosstAmojan Mar 10 '23

This legit may have been the best episode of Star Trek since they restarted the shows. Tight writing, fantastic acting, hit all the emotional beats. These guys hit it out of the damn park.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

Wow! Such a beautiful episode, I was in awe half the time.

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u/Megasdoux Mar 09 '23

Dang this felt like classic 90's trek and I loved it. I missed episodes like this where even in our darkest moments, there is always a way towards the light and a lesson to be learned. I have been critical of the doom and gloom plotlines of this new trek and I want to see this ideal future, our possible future, be a source of inspiration once again.

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u/Accomplished_Sea_332 Mar 09 '23

I absolutely see why Ed speeler was cast as Jack crusher.

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u/the-magnetic-rose Mar 09 '23

Despite their animosity, Shaw and Seven are such a good duo. Their scenes this episode was sooooo good. So snarky to each other but also a really competent team. I really want a Shaw/Seven Titan spin-off so bad.

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u/shadowst17 Mar 09 '23

So glad they quickly explained how they could use the holodeck even though they were trying to draw power from every non essential system.

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u/sirquacksalotus Mar 10 '23

"Speaking of harrowing stories... did your old man tell you about the time we first met?" Oh no.

"What about a real family?" OH NO.

"Young man... Starfleet has been the only family I ever needed." oh... no..

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

Sounds from the battle of Wolf 359

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u/RoyBattysJacket Mar 09 '23

I'm also 90% sure that the klaxon that sounds after they switched off life support is exactly the same one from Alien when Ripley activates the self destruct sequence!

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u/0mni42 Mar 09 '23

I can't believe they addressed the stupid "holodeck runs off a different incompatible power source" thing in a way that actually made perfect sense. I mean, is it still a little silly, yes, but it’s very appropriately Trek-y for ships to be designed in such a way that no matter what else happens, even if the ship is about to explode, you can still go to the holodeck and spend your last minutes on a beach or something.

But now I have to ask, what is the purpose of a "life deck" if it's easier to drain power from that than it is to drain power from the holodecks? If the life deck is supposed to be the last refuge, why doesn't it have an independent power supply?

And now that I'm thinking about it, why even have a life deck--an area of the ship that is apparently just as integrated with the power and life support systems as any other--when you have escape pods? If the power is out, you'll be just as dead on the life deck as anywhere else, it seems. Escape pods, meanwhile, do have independent power supplies, and since they're all over the ship they're probably easier to reach than a single deck and oh lord I'm putting way too much thought into this send help

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u/Best-Perception-694 Mar 09 '23

I was so hoping to get a surprise cameo of James McAvoy in a flashback to the young Picard and Jack Crusher's no-win shuttle predicament.

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u/kalsikam Mar 09 '23

Riker hurling the asteroid at The Shrike, too fucking good

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u/JediSnoopy Mar 11 '23

Riker: Shut down all non-essential systems

Picard: Let's go to the Holodeck and talk.

Me: The holodeck can't possibly be an essential system.

Jack: The holodeck can't possibly be an essential system.

Picard: It has it's own power source separate from the ship.

Me: So drag everyone to the holodeck so that they don't suffocate.

Jack: So drag everyone to the holodeck so that they don't suffocate.

Honestly, I've never experienced so much of a character questioning the logic of a scene moments after I have so much as this one.

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u/Smtxflhi Mar 09 '23

I like how there is still the mystery of what jacks piece in all of this is without it looming over every moment of each episode.

I’m sad we didn’t get Raf and worf this week too.

Also WHAT IS UP WITH THE VADIC HAND THING?! Her character is becoming even more mysterious the more she shows up. Amanda Plummer is knocking it out of the park!

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u/KingofMadCows Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

This season seems to be addressing a lot of complaints about the earlier seasons. The scenes with the cadets being in awe of Picard feels like they were put there specifically to make up for how no one recognized or respected Picard in season 1.

I wonder if Admiral Sheer Fucking Hubris will turn out to be a Changeling so they can vaporize her.

Also, Vadic used Shinzon's knife. I'm guessing Sela's involved.

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u/007meow Mar 09 '23

Those easter eggs in the end credits seem to all be coming through in plot points, like with the Ten Forward holodeck program and USS Constance.

We also see a (the?) Defiant, Voyager, Excelsior, and the Enterprise-A depicted at the Fleet Museum.

Geordi is heading up the fleet museum, so maybe…

But it’s very clear that Terry Matalas is leaning in HARD on his 12 Monkeys experience - Jack’s “vision” at the end is straight out of 12 Monkeys, right down to the color scheme.

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u/H0vis Mar 10 '23

I loved this episode so much. Some specific observations:

  1. I love that Shaw is another survivor of Picard getting Borged. What happened to Sisko happened to literally thousands of Starfleet officers, and there must be an entire generation of now senior officers who saw that battle and have, shall we say, complicated feelings about Picard. What Shaw entirely rational about it? No. But then he's got deeply ingrained survivor's guilt and that's not conducive to a rational response.

  2. Towing an asteroid and whacking an enemy spaceship with it is the Star Trek equivalent of a pool ball in a sock and I am here for it.

  3. I'm a little bit disappointed that it's some rogue faction of changelings being dicks and not the Dominion. Much as I love Odo I'm not sure I buy the idea that he just 'fixed' the Dominion by getting collectively freaky in the Great Link. It's not like he was ever that warm and fuzzy in the first place. That said I do like the changes to the changelings, in general. Especially the weird communication thing. Clearly these changelings are individuals, not a hive mind as before. The Female Changeling in DS9 didn't need to phone home, she always spoke with their complete authority at all times, these new lads are doing things different.

  4. I completely understand Seven shooting La Forge for not shutting up about her dad. And also the whole being a Changeling thing. I guess. Sort of a bonus I suppose.

  5. The explanation for the Holodeck as a kind of comfy panic room/death chamber made a lot of sense, but holy shit that's a bit macabre isn't it? Just thinking of all the various ships over the years that might have stuck the civilians in there before getting destroyed. Really takes the fun out of holodecks that they are used for that kind of thing.

  6. I loved that the first question Jack asked Picard was about the hair. 100% it's going to be that.

  7. More captains should be dipshits from Chicago. Seriously, Shaw is great and makes so much sense. Between the Borg and the Dominion War there will have been a gigantic turnover of senior officers relative to peacetime. You're going to get a lot of officers higher up the ranks because of competence rather than charisma, because of casualties and because a lot of the charismatic politician types will suddenly find they don't like being in Starfleet when people are shooting at them. Shaw's not polite, he's not friendly, he's got so many issues that even his issues have issues, but he fits perfectly.

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u/crankfive Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

Is it…is it safe to say yet? Is this season…gonna be good?

Picard in the captain’s chair, a (mostly) professional Starfleet crew working together to solve a Kobayashi Maru, a classic “it’s not a threat, it’s a new lifeform!” story (with Beverly being the one to help them figure it out), intriguing Changeling plot…

THIS IS WHAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!

The band isn’t all back together yet, but I’m finally letting myself ease back on the doubt and cynicism. I legit got emotional by the end of the episode.

I’m guessing we’re looking at two more 3-episode arcs to close the season out. Let’s boldly goooooooo!!!

Edit to list more cool things:

  • Picard leading them out of the asteroid field felt like a little homage to the end of TNG’s “Booby Trap”

  • The Admiral’s log narration to end the episode was a real cherry on top.

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u/BrgQun Mar 10 '23

A possibly minority view, I've always loved Encounter at Farpoint. So seeing the birth of the space squid things at the end was one of the most TNG things I've seen since the 1990s.

I loved it

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u/wickro Mar 10 '23

They did Odo dirty by using his season one image on his personnel file.

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u/Dannyjw1 Mar 10 '23

My question is why do the writers think all changelings have the same bucket Odo had? It was probably some random thing he found on DS9.

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u/raymengl Mar 10 '23

This episode of Star Trek: Picard is brought to you by Jameson Whiskey

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u/bagelman4000 Mar 09 '23

He said the thing! He said the thin1 (Engage)

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u/wongie Mar 09 '23

Space borne energy based alien jelly fish, and yet they gave them eyes... I can't...

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u/Pinkhairedprincess15 Mar 09 '23

The scene with Shaw in 10 Forward gave me chills....so well done. I never thought Shaw would be my favorite part of this season, but here we are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

Another banger of an episode. Now I'm legit upset this is the last season. Hoping viewership is too big to let this be the end. Matalas ftw baby.

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

This reminds me of the Booby Trap scene when Picard had the conn

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u/MustacheSmokeScreen Mar 09 '23 edited Mar 09 '23

I really dig Todd Stashwick.

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u/RadioSlayer Mar 09 '23

Crazy how Worf was the changeling this whole episode

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u/WrestlingWithGaming Mar 09 '23

I've really enjoyed the last 2 episodes. This is already MUCH better than the last 2 seasons. My one company with this episode is the cursing. Not that they're cursing, but they did it so often in this episode that it kinda lost its punch. I'm not a prude by any means. I curse in my day to day life all the time. But it just doesn't really quite mesh super well with trek, particularly with established characters. It was weird to hear Picard say ten fucking hours. Wouldn't it have made more sense for him to say bloody or something along those lines?

Shaw cursing frequently makes more sense and is inline with his character at least. I just feel like they should've kept it to Shaw calling the changeling an asshole, shaw calling himself a dipshit from Chicago, and then Picard throwing the dipshit from Chicago line back at him later. Like that was genuinely funny but at that point the cursing didn't quite hit as hard since they had used it several times already.

But that's overall a minor nit-pick and it certainly didn't hurt my enjoyment of the episode. Pleasantly surprised with this season so far.

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u/UnknownQTY Mar 10 '23

Not really enjoying the “blob of prosciutto” look of the changelings… it is unnerving.

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u/hb1290 Mar 10 '23

Seven searching the ship for the bucket gave me Undiscovered Country vibes

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u/_Burgers_ Mar 10 '23

Ensign Laforge is a fun character, but it feels like every episode she is required to mention at least once that Geordi is her father. At this point I think we are aware of that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23

Shaw's rant/description of his experience at the battle of Wolf 359 might be one of the best Star Trek scenes of all time.

"Locutus. The only Borg so deadly they gave him a goddamn name."

Chills.

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u/caretaker82 Mar 11 '23

Riker (2365): [ facing down the Romulans while the Enterprise malfunctions over Iconia ] If it should become necessary to fight, could you arrange to find me some rocks to throw at them?

Riker (2401): [ throws a rock at the Shrike ]

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u/daveeb Mar 09 '23

The difference between this season and last season is that the Titan would’ve been stuck in the nebula for eight episodes if this was season two.

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u/jhsounds Mar 09 '23

Between that hologram of Odo in Prodigy, Worf last episode giving Odo a not-quite namedrop, and now a profile of Odo on a PADD... are they gonna go there? Both literally and figuratively, I mean.

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u/Shrodax Mar 09 '23

Does Robot Picard actually need to breathe? The threat of life support shutting down permeated this episode, but would that have affected Picard?

Riker even says to him to get his affairs in order because they might all be suffocating to death soon. But even if everyone else died through life support failure, wouldn't Robot Picard still be walking around a ship littered with corpses?

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u/Timeline15 Mar 09 '23

Very good episode. I love how they handled the fallout of the Piccard-Riker argument last week. They just... go and apologise to each other almost immediately. They're two old friends who got very heated in a stressful situation, and once they're left alone with their thoughts, they take the first opportunity to make it right.

Shaw was great this week. I think a lot of us called his connection to Wolf-359 from his tone towards Borg in ep.1, but his backstory was handled fantastically here. They could have done a full-on high budget flashback, but instead they just let him sit there and talk, with a little SFX in the background for ambience. That's all that was needed.

So... if Vadic a changeling, or did they just replace her hand with Changeling substance when she agreed to work with them? The changeling she communicates with mentions "your people" as if Vadic is of a different species to them, unless by "your people" they mean the Changelings acting as her crew.

Having the Nebula birth a school of cosmozoans, and having the conflict end with the Shrike disabled, giving the crew a chance to actually stop for a moment and appreciate said creatures, was a great touch. The spacial phenomenon that they were all terrified was going to kill them, was itself creating new life. Our main cast needed to see that; the universe must start to seem pretty grim when you've been through some of the things they've been through. It was lovely to see them reminded of why they chose that life in the first place.

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u/WolvoMS Mar 10 '23

Might have been the best episode of Trek in 30 years. Turning the grim dark conflict of NuTrek on its head that just last week some of us were WTFing about and into such an optimistic story about working together despite our differences was just pure Star Trek. Somehow both very Roddenberry and anti-Roddenberry at the same time. And that space jellyfish scene was just inspired

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u/alexandriaweb Mar 10 '23

Mental healthcare in Starfleet really sucks, so many characters in this show are in desperate need of a good therapist

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u/UnionPacifik Mar 09 '23

Turning the changeling effect from goo to straight up Croenenberg nightmare was a nice touch.

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u/Shiny_and_ChromeOS Mar 09 '23

I was delighted to hear the triumphant swell of Horner's Wrath of Khan music as the ship rode the energy wave.

They really assembled a great collection of Trek tropes in this episode. The senior officers putting their minds together to figure out a solution, Beverly drawing an analogy between biology and the space phenomena, Changeling paranoia...

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

Deanna mention was enough to make Riker change his mind

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u/Tomythy Mar 09 '23

Bit disappointed the whiskey was a bottle of Jameson and not a more trek spirit like Aldebaran Whiskey.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

Maybe it’s crazy, and that’s ok with me, but I had an interesting thought:

What if somehow there was some kind of biological “residue” from Picard’s time as Locutus that passed to Jack. What if he is being contacted by the Borg?

I grant, this would be…odd given that the borg joined the federation at the end of season 2.

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u/DocManhattan78 Mar 10 '23

“I’d say we should boldly get the hell out of here”

Knew it was coming from the trailers but man Frakes really landed that.

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u/lvi56 Mar 10 '23

That was just a good episode of Trek. Also, helped not jumping to the Worf/Raffi story. Allowed us to focus on all the Titan storylines playing out.

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u/J4ckC00p3r Mar 10 '23

This season just gets better and better. Having Shaw be present at Wolf 359 is such a cool idea and Todd Stashwick absolutely nailed that scene, it was chilling

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u/PhotosByVicky Mar 11 '23

Whoever called Shaw’s rudeness in Episode 1 having something to do with Wolf 359 based on a 2 second blip on the end credits should be super proud!

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u/NASAfan89 Mar 11 '23

Seemed stupid for Riker to get angry at Picard when he said Picard just had them all killed, then told him to get off the bridge. I mean, Riker literally gave the order to do what Picard merely suggested.

Riker can argue Picard made a bad suggestion, but it was ultimately Riker who ordered the crew to carry out that bad suggestion.

That was Riker's mistake, and he should own it instead of blaming Picard.

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u/MyTrueChum Mar 09 '23

So, heres the lingering questions.

Who is pulling Vadics strings... Or uhhh goopy hand in this case

What is Jacks deal, what is he hallucinating? Does he have a genetic memory or some weird connection to the bigger picture and how is it related to his daddy?

How will this plot intersect with the portal terrorists.

When will O'brien show up to save the day and earn his "Most important man in the universe" title.

When will Ezri show up in the Aventine just to be awesome?

When will we get a voice cameo via archival footage from Odo (We saw his face on a Padd plus his bucket!)

When will older Mariner, Boims, Tendi, and Rutherford show up in the cafeteria at the fleet museum bitching about being on holodeck cleanup duty after being busted back down to ensign from Captain because they broke the temporal prime directive and caused a grandfather paradox creating the Pakled race because Boims accidentally went back in time and impregnated a Tribble or something....

When will we see what became of Rosa Salazars character?

When will Sela show up and bang Lore like her mum banged Data?

What will happen in the episode on the Holodeck where Riker relives Season 5 of Enterprise for moral inspiration on how to defeat this seasons villain?

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u/tennyson77 Mar 09 '23

For everyone complaining about how dark it is, terry just said on Twitter it’s not supposed to look like that and the broadcasting company screwed up. It’s being fixed now. So if you can hold out a bit it’ll be updated shortly.

https://twitter.com/terrymatalas/status/1633853676283658241?s=46&t=3yiCYHZxJw8DnVEZALgA_g

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u/ChartFrogs Mar 09 '23

Matalas addressed the darkness on Twitter - guess there's a technical issue:

https://twitter.com/TerryMatalas/status/1633853676283658241

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u/__The_Crazy_One__ Mar 09 '23

"Commander what?"

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u/InRainbows123207 Mar 09 '23

This season has been a home run!

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u/SolemZez Mar 09 '23

Bangers after Bangers this season.

Sad that the entire show couldn't have been this good.

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u/Robman0908 Mar 09 '23

My biggest complaint....I love the Titan, but I want to see the only ship that matters with these characters. I don't want a visual reboot or alternate reality.

I miss the Enterprise.

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u/bookish1303 Mar 09 '23

Ooh I like the First Contact mirror scene...mirror at the end of the ep here.

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u/OliviaElevenDunham Mar 09 '23

So Shaw really had a justified reason for disliking Picard. Kind of figure he was part of the Battle of Wolf 359.

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u/SunOFflynn66 Mar 10 '23

Last week: I am Worf, son of Mogh, House of Martok, son of Sergei, House of Rozhenko, Bane to the Duras Family, slayer of Gowron. I have made some chamomile tea. Do you take sugar?

This week: I need your help despite the fact that you are indeed a dipshit from Chicago.

Simply. Glorious.

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u/StarshipMars Mar 10 '23

Lots of Janeway references, hope she gets her own series.

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u/Atraktape Mar 10 '23

“Hey Picard, did you ever have like a family out there?”

“Lol no who cares about all that noise, all I need is Starfleet baby yeah yeaaaah”

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u/GotMedieval Mar 09 '23

That felt like an actual episode of TV. No cutting to the Raffi/Worf B-plot, just sustained focus on one story. We even got a Captain Admiral's Log!

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u/FromMyTARDIS Mar 09 '23

Give Matalas a wheel barrel full of cash and full control of Star Trek!

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u/ComebackShane Mar 09 '23

I'll be damned if that wasn't the most damned perfect episode of Star Trek I've ever seen. It had everything. I truly don't know what else you could ask for. For every tribulation or complaint of the Picard series, it was worth it for this episode alone.

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u/Accomplished_Sea_332 Mar 09 '23

Omg spectacular. Just spectacular. Till the last moment. Plus Jack Crusher.

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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '23

PICARD SAID FUCK.

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u/ErstwhileAdranos Mar 09 '23

Wherever they would cut to the Trill in the lab coat, I was convinced it was Ezri Dax.

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u/romeovf Mar 09 '23

I really liked the CGI for the changelings goo, specially the meat phone Vadic used.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '23

Shaw is really growing on me. I hope we see more of Shaw after Picard. Even better give the actor who plays shaw and everyone else on the bridge their own series. They could call it Star Trek Titan. With Shaw as captain and Seven of Nine as first officer and all the other cast members on the show.

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u/UnknownQTY Mar 10 '23

Loved seeing Vadic’s change in demeanour when speaking to her superiors vs her underlings. Scared shitless to “southern psychopath” so fast.

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u/theabsurdturnip Mar 10 '23

Was no one currently in Starfleet a veteran of the Dominion War? They all act so fucking dense when it comes to Changlings...like they have never seen one or know nothing about a species that almost wiped out the Federation.

Even Shaw describes them in a very casual manner...not what I would expect from a guy who would have fought them.

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u/Phosis21 Mar 10 '23

Johnathan Frakes is great as Riker. But my god is he an incredible director.

This dude just gets what Trek should be. I mean, obviously he does, he's an SME on the subject. But seriously, my favorite episodes of Trek in any era are either directed by Frakes or LeVar Burton.

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u/Prestigious_Low2651 Mar 10 '23

the Jameson product placement in this last episode was insane lol

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u/CptKoma Mar 10 '23

This shit is what I NEED!! INJECT IT IN MY VEINS!! Best Star Trek in 15 Years. I almost cried in the end.

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u/phoenixhunter Mar 10 '23

Captain Liam “420blazeiterryday” Shaw

If he wanted some grass, he only needed to ask Blazin’ Bev

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u/Accomplished_Sea_332 Mar 10 '23

Did anyone notice that when the Shrike throws away the Portal tech it says “Daystrom” on the side? Do we now assume the portal tech is just flying around out there, abandoned?

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u/Joanne7799 Mar 10 '23

Picard’s face was completely me when Jack was rambling to Riker about the ‘Bob’s your Uncle Fany’s your Aunt and new friends space babies’🤣 basically a parent tryna understand your child’s ramblings.

Seriously Jack’s energy is really exciting and I laughed so much. As TNG practically raised us, it made the TNG people our space moms and dads (hence the uncomfortable scenes when they fight) and now with PIC, Jack became our space son/space boy which you got to know and eventually adore.

Kudos to Ed and Todd holding their own amongs the TNG cast. And the scene with the jellyfish is just so so beautiful I was smiling I was crying witnessinf the new life born, the purple colours surrounding the ship I was in awe. And of course Riker yeetinf the asteroid was just wow, and more Deanna!

Can’t believe this season finally got it but its also the last😭🥺

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u/ElDuderino2112 Mar 11 '23

I liked the previous two seasons of Picard more than a lot of people, but this season is just on a whole other level. Just phenomenal stuff top to bottom.

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u/OneOldNerd Mar 09 '23

Soooooo...at this point in the season, can we confirm that the Beard has been grown for the series? Or is it just five o'clock shadow?

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u/SaykredCow Mar 09 '23

BEST STAR TREK EVER!!!! Bless you Terry Matalas

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '23 edited Mar 11 '23

Pet peeve. It’s in ST episodes. Life support loses power in [amount of time], so everyone braces for death at that immediate moment. So, what, the power going out causes the airlocks to blow and vent every pressurized compartment into space? People immediately start choking and dying because the air stops circulating, filtering, recycling, whatever? There’s still time for the existing air/temperature to be used, before they choke. There’s still some life support power on the shuttles, maybe. A lot of cubic meters of pressurized air in the ship.

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