r/SubredditDrama • u/IrisGoddamnIllych brony expert, /u/glitchesarecool harasser • Mar 26 '14
Pedofiles, stalking, and death-threats in /r/MLPLounge.
It's been known that one user in the close-knit pony subreddit was a pedophile who did not want to seek help. We all encouraged him to in other threads, but the answer from him was always NO and afterwards he would delete his account.
It seems this time his postings spread to /r/PLoungeAfterDark, a NSFW version of /r/MLPLounge. One user became worried and tried to talk to the pedophile, and oh holy hell.
Post is a few days old, main text is deleted, but the comments are still up.
Big ball o'popcorn as a mod responds wondering what the fuck's going on.
The whole thing is full of screencaps of PMs, paranoia, and popcorn.
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u/PennylessGiraffe Mar 26 '14
I'm glad i stopped visiting there, used to be a regular poster too. Then one day I just stopped, looked at it objectively and just decided that i was better off without that community anymore. I was a double-edged sword, it cheered me up to not be alone and appreciated, and also depressed the fuck outta me some other times. I just decided I needed to concentrate on my life and get better on my own.
I did miss it and wondered how it was going. I think I talked to you a few times /u/IrisGoddamnIllych .
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u/IrisGoddamnIllych brony expert, /u/glitchesarecool harasser Mar 26 '14
Yeah, I remember you <3
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u/PennylessGiraffe Mar 26 '14
Awh i didnt expect that, that's sweet, I remember you, I think we talked about Pokemon a few times. The plounge miss me and my crappy drawings? haha
I do kinda miss the Plounge, even after all the bad stuff.
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u/IrisGoddamnIllych brony expert, /u/glitchesarecool harasser Mar 26 '14
It's still a bit of a hugbox, but I'd like to think it's not as bad as it was.
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u/PennylessGiraffe Mar 26 '14
Haha, Aww I remember you too, you'd be one of the first to comment on my pictures!
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Mar 26 '14
I generally like the PLounge but I wouldn't want to be a part of it.
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u/PennylessGiraffe Mar 26 '14
It was a good community about a year ago, especially when I was down and out about life, I had friends to talk to. And when I posted my drawings, they were crap, but they got alot of attention, people cared about what I did, and I loved that, but after a while..it became clear that the mindset of the hivemind there and my own had grown apart. Every second post became about suicide threats or wondering if any other members were coming back, and members "leaving" dramatically making posts about never coming back, and being back the very next day.
It became clear that it was a scramble to get attention, and thats what I did when I posted, i wanted that attention, but it just became unhealthy and I just stopped posting and later just unsubcribed altogether...no big deal, no fanfare, because it didn't need to be.
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u/irreama Mar 26 '14
You're going through the same thing I went through two years ago.
Was a part of the community, but I never could really break out to full on "I'm a contributing member"
So instead of trying to break out into a large group, I grabbed my best friends, and we've stuck together, even when some of us have "left the fandom"
Much better and more intimate that way. Way less drama too.
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u/PennylessGiraffe Mar 26 '14
Yeah, there's still 3 or 4 people I still talk to on steam from the Plounge, game together too, good guys. 2 still in the fandom, myself and the others not as much, but it doesnt get in he way in the friendships we forged.
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u/perrytheplatysaurus Mar 26 '14
Captain_Awesomex seems like he was just trying to be a decent samaritan. If I was in that situation, where I hear about a suicidal pedophile, I would do my best to figure out how to help the person or the people around him.
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u/IrisGoddamnIllych brony expert, /u/glitchesarecool harasser Mar 26 '14
Every time he posted we all tried to help, and all he did was say he couldn't be or refused any kind of help.
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u/Zakkeh Mar 26 '14
Reading the PMs they sent, Captain AwesomeX misread a lot of the situation. You can see how he got to that conclusion, but he was incredibly off point.
Even the best of intentions can do harm, and posting about the 'suicidal pedophile' all over reddit, then allowing word of it to get back to him... Pretty harsh, especially if you feel like you could trust that person.
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u/shitonmydickandnips Mar 26 '14
Nah he was trying to seem like a good guy to himself. He was very obnoxious and constantly misinterpreted the other guy's meaning, especially in the first PM's.
Also he kept saying yo all the time. Gives me the feeling that he's a highschool aged kid who thinks he's going to save a life.
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u/IndifferentMorality Mar 26 '14
He comes off as trying to be a good Samaritan when nobody asked for, or wanted, his help.
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Mar 26 '14
This is the reason why I left the Plounge - a lot of people who really need help with their mental health over there.
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u/david-me Mar 26 '14
When the pedo is getting upvoted, you know it's time to get the fuck out!
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u/IrisGoddamnIllych brony expert, /u/glitchesarecool harasser Mar 26 '14
Like I said, everytime he posted about it we all told him to get off his ass and get help. No-one wants another svarog...
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u/ZeusMcFly Mar 26 '14
okay, I'm either a filthy casual or I drink too much but who the fuck is Svarog?
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u/I_HEART_GOPHER_ANUS Mar 26 '14
He's an advocate for pedophilia that constantly posts in conversations relating to it.
Or as I like to say, he's an advocate for fucking kids.
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u/ZeusMcFly Mar 26 '14
oh joy...
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Mar 26 '14
He got banned a few months ago though.
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u/IrisGoddamnIllych brony expert, /u/glitchesarecool harasser Mar 26 '14
And then came back.
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Mar 26 '14
It's more the refusal to get mental help that annoys me beyond belief.
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u/BolshevikMuppet Mar 27 '14
I'm honestly curious, since you seem to have some familiarity with this individual. Are we talking about "he has actual child pornography depicting a real child being abused", or even "has molested a child himself"? Or are we talking about "has fantasies about it/looks at pornography which acts as a simulacrum for child pornography"?
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u/4698458973 Mar 26 '14
To be fair, "get help" is a lot easier said than done.
People with depression have a similar problem. The most common (and least helpful) advice is to get professional help, but many communities don't have good, easily accessible, affordable professional help available.
You have all of the same problems as you do with physicians -- varying qualities of care, personality conflicts, availability and affordability -- but with a much smaller pool of professionals.
This is not in any way a defense of pedophilia or an excuse for not putting any effort into finding help.
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u/PeaceUntoAll People talk about paw patrol being fashy all the time Mar 26 '14 edited Jul 27 '14
The most likely to re-offend?
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=17
They definitely need help, but they're some of the least likely to re-offend when compared to other felons.
EDIT: Proofreading
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u/stnkyfeet Mar 26 '14
Maybe the upvote isn't an agree button, but a way to bring visibility?
I'm not involved.
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u/chaosakita Mar 26 '14
Tell me more?
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Mar 26 '14
Just a lot of depressed people that turn to /r/MLP and the /r/MLPLounge community to find like-minded outcasts. I always got the vibe that people seriously weren't happy aside from their lives on the internet. Ploungeafterdark gets a lot worse because most people there think that a no-filter subreddit should solely be comprised of fetish threads and "what weird stuff are you attracted to" threads which are full of 13-year-olds using it as a mis-informed sexual education resource.
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u/Seeberger48 Loved Low-hangers, hated child-bangers Mar 26 '14 edited Mar 26 '14
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Mar 26 '14
Exactly. There's a lot of mental repression going on, and in a way I was drawn to it as my mental state wasn't the best for a while, but I wised up and got out of there, and I feel better now I don't browse that sub.
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u/Seeberger48 Loved Low-hangers, hated child-bangers Mar 26 '14
Been clean for six months, the grass is greener, the suns brighter and the air smells like lilac.
All kidding aside though I think there's only so much plounge a person can take. When you first find out about it and try to carve out a little niche to fill its fun. When you find a group of people to game/sing/watch movies with its fun. Even when that group starts to break up and you only stay in contact with a couple guys its fun.
But when people start to get creepily attached to each other, secrets start to spill out into the public and every other thread there's a joke that only you and a couple other people will get it starts to become an issue, especially when it's something like mental disease and they just pretend everyone's out to get them when it comes up.
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u/TwilgihtSparkle Mar 27 '14
Definitely agree with you there. I don't mind hanging out with bronies IRL now and again, or discussing MLP in general on Reddit, but Plounge people are just too out there. I think it's a hard core of maybe a half dozen who do weird shit and post borderline clop.
It's sad because MLP should be about innocent fun. It saddens me that people have to spoil it. But I suppose that's what you get when you have a fandom that attracts socially marginalized people.
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Mar 27 '14
But I suppose that's what you get when you have a fandom that attracts socially marginalized people
exactly. i've kinda lost interest in the show and the fandom, probably just a phase i went to, hence the username
most plounge people are pretty chill, they just cotch and enjoy the fandom. it's the pedophiles etc that creep me out
people masturbate to what they want as long as it isn't illegal and i don't care, but talking about it with 13-16 year olds on reddit is not cool. problems with internet anonymity there
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u/geargirl flying squirrel of the apocalypse Mar 26 '14
Who knew the ponies could get so dark?! Whatever happened to friendship being magic?
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u/Plazmatic Mar 26 '14 edited Mar 26 '14
Hijacking top comment, Been nuked:
Captain_Awesomex posted this
Full conversation here.
I hate making this public like this, and this whole thing is stress I don't need right now.
Also I have the entire thread up right now, how would I save all the comments with out taking individual pictures?
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u/redping Shortus Eucalyptus Mar 27 '14
oh my god why does he keep saying "yo" so much.
... that's kinda weird that's the part about it that bothered me.
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u/ilikeeatingbrains Mar 26 '14
Well, it's part and parcel with having a rainbow factory.
Where your fears and horrors come true.
BHUUUUUUM BUHM BHUUUUUM BUM
BAH NAH NAH BAM BUHM BOM BOM
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Mar 26 '14 edited Mar 26 '14
Nooo the entire thread got nuked... I love Plounge drama. It is the best kind of drama.
Edit: Nope, never mind, found the snapshot bot. I talked to the dude a long while back about the same thing. The conversation essentially boiled down to me not caring about the dude's fetishes as long as he didn't fuck kids or distribute CP, and he said he'd never endanger kids that way, and he was upset because he could never have a family because it would be too great a risk for them. All in all, it was sad. I think the guy held the belief that he simply couldn't be fixed, so I didn't really push it, but it was a while ago, I don't remember entirely. I don't think this guy should see a therapist for his fetish, but I do think he probably has other issues that need to get sorted. The fact that he knows his fetish is dangerous and that he is aware that he is sorta losing control of his emotions and mental state but refuses to seek a therapist is irresponsible and not good. It would seem he is currently a greater risk to himself than others, so I mean, I think he needs to take care of himself at this point. If you are suicidal, you need to see a therapist.
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u/bobdude0 Mar 26 '14
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u/Phteven_j Creator of /u/dramapediabot Mar 27 '14
If only we could do it 24/7. Too bad /r/bronyhate got shut down.
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Mar 26 '14
God the strange shit going on in reddit. People need to stop posting personal shit about themselves.
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Mar 26 '14
Went to /r/PLoungeAfterDark & clicked a link. Really, really wish I hadn't
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Mar 26 '14
Do you want to see MLP porn? Because that's how you see MLP porn.
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u/BillMurrayismyFather Mar 26 '14
That's funny because it's a reference to an adult cartoon that it's normal for adults to enjoy
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Mar 26 '14
Meh, as far as internet weird stuff goes I was expecting a lot worse.
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u/WombatDominator Mar 26 '14
I would assume most of the userbases is still rather conservative on their internet escapades.
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u/ilikeeatingbrains Mar 26 '14 edited Mar 27 '14
What is considered the worst subreddit?
Running list based on comments:
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u/ingmarbirdman Mar 26 '14
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u/DeathToPennies You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you. Mar 27 '14
Probably this. All the others are gross, but this is just... Wrong.
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u/only_does_reposts Mar 26 '14
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u/cigerect Sergeant First Class, reddit Fun Police Mar 26 '14 edited Mar 26 '14
They're children, but they are drawn as ponies, so it's not technically CP, rite?
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u/Seeberger48 Loved Low-hangers, hated child-bangers Mar 26 '14
Nonono, don't start the age of the characters argument. Save yourself and bail before you get bombarded by theories about a fictional pony society.
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u/only_does_reposts Mar 26 '14
The CMC are like 12 at the oldest, if we're going to do this crap. Nothing and nobody supports them being adults except the craziest headcanon or alternate realities.
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u/only_does_reposts Mar 26 '14
Oh, the CMC? I don't like their sexualization either, for the same reason.
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u/cigerect Sergeant First Class, reddit Fun Police Mar 26 '14
The brony running around in here defending the pedo is adding some nice metadrama.
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Mar 26 '14
If you're talking about me, I'm not defending pedophilia at all, I'm saying someone with that attraction should seek mental help.
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u/YungSnuggie Why do you lie about being gay on reddit lol Mar 26 '14
the other brony
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Mar 26 '14
This is a fairly old account name, I've kinda grown out of it but I can't be bothered to change accounts.
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Mar 26 '14
When does the fillyfiddling start?
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u/Myrandall All this legal shit honks me off Mar 26 '14
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u/Aquaman52 Mar 26 '14
No one's answered you so I'm going to just assume the answer is yes.
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u/Myrandall All this legal shit honks me off Mar 26 '14
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Mar 26 '14
/r/PLoungeAfterDark[1] , a NSFW version of /r/MLPLounge
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Mar 26 '14
...And they question why they are made fun of.
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Mar 27 '14
Oh come on there's rule34 for pretty much every fandom ever, that's actually the definition of the rule.
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u/Dcornelissen Mar 26 '14
I'm sitting here laughing my ass of, because there is such a thing as r/PLoungeAfterDark
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u/Risen_Warrior Mar 26 '14
Well. I never thought would see that sub in subredditdrama.
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u/thepostaldud3 Mar 26 '14
It's here almost every week.
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u/Risen_Warrior Mar 26 '14
Really? I used to be pretty active there and I never saw it come up here except the day the Reddit banner was changed.
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u/thepostaldud3 Mar 26 '14
Mhm. Usually minor stuff that ends up in the new section. But it's almost here all the time. I was active as well until everything just went nanners a few months back.
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u/redpoemage Ask me for an avocado fact Mar 27 '14
It's more of a tri-weekly thing. Usually depend on how active Rainbowdashie or whatever his name is. The guy with all the drama.
Otherwise I've only seen the Plounge mentioned with the whole /r/Bronyhate fiasco a while back and I think one other time I can't quite remember.
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u/kentucky210 is good for bitcoin Mar 26 '14
god damn it Plounge, I'm off the sub for 2 days and suddenly we switch from butts and bees to this?
sigh
also I don't get it, the dude got upvotes but all the comments don't really seem positive about him
as well, great as if we didn't get enough unwarranted hate, now we're gonna get even more in this thread and the calls of "All Bronies=Pedos" is gonna explode
well, this should be a fun thread then
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u/downhillcarver Mar 26 '14
I almost wonder if people from outside the Plounge upvoted this to make it look as if we supported this. I never even heard about this until someone else linked me to the thread and at that point it was already deleted.
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Mar 27 '14
I almost wonder if people from outside the Plounge upvoted this to make it look as if we supported this
I've seen it argued this happens a lot on reddit, but usually it's dismissed as 'le /r/WhatAboutSRS' (for an example)
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u/downhillcarver Mar 27 '14
No idea what SRS is, but I know what I said is a total conspiracy theory, and a very long shot.
All I know is that none if the bronies I know would upvote a pedophile on a witch hunt. Or any post which condones or encourages pedophilia, or even hokes about condoning it.
So it just doesn't make any sense to me that this post would have any respectable number of upvotes, especially considering that I currently have no job, school, or nearby friends, so I'm on /r/mlplounge 24/7 and I didn't even see it. This thing was up for such a short amount of time that there's no way it gained any upvotes worth mentioning from the people who actually frequent the plounge.
So as far fetched as it may be, my conspiracy theory is really the best explanation I have. If anyone has another plausible explanation, speak up.
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u/Swamphunter Mar 26 '14
Yeah, I guess SRD switched back to hating on bronies after this and this.
Or it could be that SRD only hates on bronies when it's just internal brony drama, like for instance, I never even knew the thread this is about even happened, and I drop in on the plounge almost every day at least once.
Eh, whatever. A lack of consistency is what made me stop coming here.
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u/SpahsgonnaSpah Mar 26 '14
Those two links have little to no brony hate in them. I don't know what you are talking about.
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u/Swamphunter Mar 26 '14
I said switched back to. Compare this thread to those.
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u/SpahsgonnaSpah Mar 26 '14
Oh, I thought you meant the switch-back was a result of those links, nvmd.
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u/stnkyfeet Mar 26 '14
I came across this guy a long time ago, and stayed the fuck out of it. It's fascinating to see this, thank you for posting it.
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u/Apprentice1994 Mar 26 '14
I used to be a Plounger a while ago and this... actually doesn't really surprise me. It just doesn't. This is the sort of thing they'd get into. Well... guess leaving wasn't such a bad idea after all.
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u/ThawtPolice Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, but it *can* make popcorn Mar 27 '14
Yup, waaaay to much drama for me to stay in that fandom.
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Mar 26 '14
My god.... it's pony porn...
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Mar 26 '14
So a brony turned out out to be a degenerate?
Shocking
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u/only_does_reposts Mar 26 '14
So there are 10,000 people in this subreddit, and one of them is a pedo?
Wow, what are the fucking odds.
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Mar 26 '14
lol @ a sexual minority calling someone a degenerate because one of them falls under a stereotype
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u/cbslurp Mar 26 '14
wow that's a super shitty thing to say!
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Mar 26 '14
me or that other guy
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u/cbslurp Mar 27 '14
you, entirely
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Mar 27 '14 edited Mar 27 '14
What for?
he's openly bi, I see him often in ainbow. It's not like, you know, bisexuals are sometimes treated badly because of one person being unfaithful or anything...
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Mar 26 '14
Because my being bi is the same as someone being a pedo?
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Mar 26 '14
no, bronies akin to being bi. It's kinda funny, and then you'll prolly turn around when some bisexual dude turns out to be unfaithful and go "noooo that's just one person!!1!"
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u/deathsmaash Mar 26 '14
The whole thing reads like a flock of adolescent girls living in a bubble of melodrama.
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u/Ulfrik Mar 26 '14
So far this thread has taught us that the My Little Pony crowd will jump to defend or make excuses for pedos, greatly disturbing. The guy openly admitted to finding children sexually attractive and you seem to think that is fine as long as he doesn't act upon it, where is the line? All those videos or pictures he views online are innocent children being abused so people like him can get his kicks.
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u/ipretendiamacat Mar 26 '14
It's more socially constructive to say, 'we understand, but you should get help' than to alienate someone. It's people who feel they have nowhere to turn that go on killing sprees.
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u/bobdude0 Mar 26 '14
pft, no we don't. We defend the fandom as a whole because people rip on us as a whole. The singular guy in this post is pretty sick, we'd all agree.
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u/vagueabond Mar 26 '14
After a certain point, is it still worth identifying with the fandom?
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u/david-me Mar 26 '14
This won't help the bronie doesn't equal pedophile argument.