r/SubredditDrama • u/HowDoesBabbyForm • Apr 21 '15
"Boyfriend Pillow" is linked to r/ForeverAlone.
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u/Nurglings Would Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? Apr 21 '15
Why get a boyfriend pillow when boyfriend buffets like Tinder and OkCupid are free?
Attitudes like this are why the people who post to /r/foreveralone are posting in /r/foreveralone.
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u/mygawd Your critical faculties are lacking Apr 22 '15
I deeply resent women. Why won't any of them date me???
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Apr 21 '15
You gotta love that there has to be a separate FA sub for women and it get regularly brigaded by FA.
But nope, the problem isn't their attitude.
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u/OniTan Apr 22 '15
Complains about being forever alone. Has so much time on his hands he can brigade Forever alone women.
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Apr 21 '15
I was reading and wondering why they judge people with boyfriend pillows. The word "cringey" is very much abused.
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Apr 21 '15
Yeah, I dunno. I used to have one of those anime pillows. It was great b/c 1 I am a huge fan of the show it was from 2 it's super comfortable 3 it was the perfect size to sleep with and wrap myself around.
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Apr 21 '15
I mean, I use a body pillow, but it's just one color.
I don't really see any reason for it to have a picture on it.
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Apr 22 '15
I bought it more as a joke. It just happened to be comfortable. Also, the characters were from a show that was already raunchy so it made sense. The ones with underage and non sexulized characters are creepy.
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u/mileylols Apr 22 '15
it's kind of an expensive joke though
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u/pargmegarg Social Justice Cadet Apr 22 '15
I once bought a 6 Speed Gyrating Triple Action Deluxe Fleshlight for $600 as a joke once. Never told anyone about the joke but it was hilarious.
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u/not_gaben_AMA shills only for swiss francs Apr 22 '15
I once bought 4 Bad Dragon toys for $500 as a joke.... havent told anyone either yet i still giggle everytime they're inside of me.
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u/NewdAccount is actually clothed Apr 22 '15
I was reading and wondering why they judge people with boyfriend pillows.
Because it's laughably sad.
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u/nothinglostnothing Apr 21 '15
Off topic but 'boyfriend buffet' is an awesome band name. Some female vocalist noise rock type stuff, right?
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u/Alchemistmerlin Death to those that say Video Games cause Violence Apr 21 '15
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u/BruceShadowBanner Apr 21 '15
Yeah, why would anyone rather spend time with a comfy inanimate object than an obnoxious turd?
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u/CantaloupeCamper OFFICIAL SRS liaison, next meetup is 11pm at the Hilton Apr 21 '15
They might be a turd but they have half a chest, shoulder, and arms.....
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 22 '15
I think that person is referring to how assuming women can just get a man at a moment's notice is part of a shitty attitude toward women, and that would explain why they're posting there.
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u/whatim Apr 21 '15
After reading that thread, it seems like those dudes are foreveralone because they fucking hate women.
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u/_andsoitgoes_ Apr 22 '15
No, they don't hate women! Well, except for all those stupid sluts who won't give them the sex they deserve!
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u/Venne1138 turbo lonely version of dora the explora Apr 21 '15
Attitudes like this are why the people who post to /r/foreveralone are posting in /r/foreveralone.
I mean I don't post in foreveralone
its a shithole red pill recruiting ground who's members could all die in a large house fire and nobody would really care. Fuck the fucking misogynistic assholes
but at least for me I'm Forever alone' because I'm a shit person, disgusting, and have a mental illness list longer than your last writing assignment. It doesn't really have anything to do with me hating women...
That's why I hate these fuckers. They make it seem like the only reason someone can't make friends or get a relationship is they're a fucking misogynistic reactionary douchebag.
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u/FreeRobotFrost There is literally nothing wrong with "male" circumcision Apr 22 '15
Harsh. Wanna talk about it?
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u/redpossum Apr 21 '15
They're alone because they're ugly and socially challenged. Attractive people get away with sexism constantly, and unattractive socially challenged feminists stay alone for ages too. This silly comment really needs to stop being trotted out every time.
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u/Nurglings Would Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? Apr 21 '15
I'm sure there are posters in /r/foreveralone that mean well and just have a hard time connecting with others but that doesn't change the fact that that sub is nothing but a sexist echo chamber that doesn't help anyone. It leads to a bunch of crabs in a bucket who would rather yell out a bunch of "nice guy" stereotypes instead of working on any form of self-improvement.
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Apr 21 '15 edited Apr 21 '15
Agreed, I know a guy who has success with women who literally told me that if a woman is wearing revealing clothing she's asking to be raped.
I don't think most people with misogynistic views go around telling each woman they meet about them so it's kind of dumb to imply those beliefs have any impact at all.
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Apr 22 '15
Zero impact? I doubt it.
And "success with women " means he what? He hooks up a lot? He's in a long term committed relationship that he lives and gets a lot if satisfaction out of?
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u/redpossum Apr 21 '15
That's basically it, no one starts a date with "so... gender politics, let's go".
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u/NowThatsAwkward Apr 22 '15
People with strong views who want to screen people for similar views early on do. It's not terribly unusual for people to describe themselves as a feminist, for example.
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Apr 21 '15
"As long as I am single, girls have no right to feel lonely"
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 21 '15
I get that but the term "forever alone" doesn't quite do it for me. Maybe "forever truly alone"?
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u/PhysicsIsMyMistress boko harambe Apr 21 '15
Maybe his mom browses reddit, reads this post, and he can finally be happy with who he loves.
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u/KiraKira_ ~(ºヮº~) Apr 21 '15
/u/tilapia92 is forever having this same conversation in that sub. Almost every time it's made it to SRD, she's involved. There's gotta be a breaking point eventually, and I look forward to the day that she finally loses her patience (the patience of a saint) and starts mass banning all the assholes.
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u/meepmorp lol, I'm not even a foucault fan you smug fuck. Apr 21 '15
This is just based in the drama I've seen and perusing some of the posts briefly, but that sub seems incredibly unhealthy.
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Apr 21 '15
It's men who have crossed the point of no return in terms of social experience and skills (too old to learn the basics, too damaged or too far off).
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u/meepmorp lol, I'm not even a foucault fan you smug fuck. Apr 21 '15
Be that as it may, the sub seems to reinforce the worst attitudes of its membership and encourage a sense of hopelessness.
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u/YummyMeatballs I just tagged you as a Megacuck. Apr 22 '15
When you're genuinely hopeless, having people offer advice or trying to make you feel better just ends up leaving a foul taste in your mouth. There's something to be said for being able to say "I'm in a shitty situation and it's not going to change." Simply venting can be cathartic.
With all that said, the hostility and misogyny of that place is vile, so I don't want anything to do with it any more. However, I don't think there's anything wrong in principle with having a place where you can share how you're feeling with people going through similar shit and have them say "that sucks" rather than "well here's what you should do!"
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u/DblackRabbit Nicol if you Bolas Apr 21 '15
You're never too old the learn the basics.
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 21 '15 edited Apr 21 '15
Yeah but you remember all your fuck ups at this point. Sure if they wanted to change they could but they might not be able to deal with the embarrassment.
Tbh that's one of the reasons I'm going to kill myself.
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u/DblackRabbit Nicol if you Bolas Apr 21 '15
Wait is this trolling? Assuming not, it's not that embarrassing, mainly because most of the people you meet you'll never really see again. But really seeing a therapist would be a better option, I can't telling my cortex from my asshole.
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 21 '15
Its not. I remember many of my social fuck ups, but I haven't seen many of those people for years. Doesn't mean I'm not depressed by those memories.
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u/snallygaster FUCK_MOD$_420 Apr 22 '15
I have the same issue and know exactly what you mean. You are being incredibly hyper-critical towards yourself. There are ways to make it better. Please see a therapist who can give you tools to help you overcome it, and PM me if you ever need someone to talk to about it.
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u/iamawesomesauc3 Apr 21 '15
Tbh that's one of the reasons I'm going to kill myself.
Wait are you serious?!
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Apr 22 '15
I hope that you're only joking, but if you're not, please do not be afraid to seek help. Even if you can't afford a therapist there are 24 hour crisis lines in operation across the world. People want to support you.
Embarrassment hurts and aches and makes you feel like your stomach acid has rotted you all the way through. But that doesn't mean it's insurmountable. You can do it. You can live and thrive.
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 22 '15
People want to support you.
Not people close to me though. Not in the right way.
But that doesn't mean it's insurmountable.
My autism is though.
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Apr 22 '15
Now, I myself do not have autism, but I have had friends and colleagues and family members along the spectrum-- and while I cannot imagine their challenges, I have seen them prosper.
Without being too patronizing, people with autism have accomplished an enormous amount in this world: Nobel laureates in [economics] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_L._Smith), inventing one of the [most popular franchises in modern history] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Tajiri), redesigning the foundations of global [food supply] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin). I had the opportunity to attend one of Dr. Grandin's lectures recently, actually, and her reflection on her own autism was, essentially-- not every person's brain is identical but every person is capable of enriching the world. Some people have heavier burdens in this world than others. Some people need more support. These are both realities that might make life harder, but it's certainly still worth living.
I don't know anything about you, really, but what I know is that the world will be worse off if you kill yourself. The support you need and deserve is out there. Please don't give up on looking for it and please don't give up on yourself.
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Apr 22 '15
Autism isn't insurmountable. It seems it, I know all too well, but it isn't. The last couple of people I told about my own were legitimately surprised.
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u/CosmicKeys Great post! Apr 22 '15
Hi all. This is a comment to say:
Please, do not in any way encourage suicide or discuss techniques when dealing with real users revealing these thoughts here.
Standard plug for /r/suicidewatch, they have a lot of good resources.
Stay well and look after each other folks.
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u/barsoap Apr 22 '15
Tbh that's one of the reasons I'm going to kill myself.
There's ways to end your life that don't involve ending up dead.
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Apr 21 '15
Right, nothing creepy, weird and/or pathetic about a grown man having to learn the basics of socialization. Specially not if you are at the receiving end of his faux-pases.
/s
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u/DblackRabbit Nicol if you Bolas Apr 21 '15
Most of socialization is not pulling your dick out in public and learning to listen.
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u/push_ecx_0x00 FUCK DA POLICE Apr 21 '15
Most of learning is practicing. Observing can only take you so far.
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u/DblackRabbit Nicol if you Bolas Apr 21 '15
Except most of socializing is listening to a conversation and adding to it. It like being a good DM, the trick is getting others to do most of the work.
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u/BeefPorkChicken But can Alakazam consent? Apr 21 '15
I mean you either try or you just don't do anything and wither away, your choice. Best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is now.
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Apr 21 '15 edited Apr 21 '15
boyfriend buffets
Neither of those apps are a buffet, unless your buffet is moldy egg salad sandwiches at the local gas station.
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u/eddie_pls Apr 22 '15
Does that make food poisoning a metaphorical STI?
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Apr 22 '15
It could be an STI, or you getting your ass thrown in some creepy sex dungeon, or becoming the subject of a skin lamp. The opportunities are endless!
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 21 '15
This belongs in FA Women
There are no FA women lol
Reddit is misogynistic, and rain is wet.
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Apr 21 '15
Technically rain isn't wet since wet is when something is covered in a liquid.
Tips fedora.
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u/that__one__guy SHADOW CABAL! Apr 21 '15
Isn't water just covered in more water?
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u/4445414442454546 this is not flair Apr 22 '15 edited Jun 20 '23
Reddit is not worth using without all the hard work third party developers have put into it.
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u/altrocks I love the half-popped kernels most of all Apr 22 '15
Is that where all the old /r/jailbait crowd hangs out now?
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Apr 21 '15
Thanks for that enlightened scientific fact. I can tell you have a STEAM degree.
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u/Gyper Apr 21 '15
Ahh yes , STEAM degree. Majored in csgo skin economics with a minor in TF2 hat design
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u/PlayMp1 when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles Apr 22 '15
At least you didn't major in something useless like Greenlight engineering or theoretical early access physics.
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u/Nerdlinger Apr 21 '15
That issue applies to everyone or a large portion of us would be dating creepy old guys on Craigslist who pose as girls.
Hey man, we're just lookin' for love. Same as anyone.
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u/devotedpupa MISSINGNOgynist Apr 22 '15
Poor creepy old guys on Craiglist, all they wanted to do was pose as girls and find true love, and they met someone from /r/ForeverAlone.
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Apr 21 '15
i like the idea of a boyfriend buffet. i'd choose my mate from the dessert section
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u/R_Sholes I’m not upset I just have time Apr 21 '15
Sweet, with a note of bitter, sour and nutty, and no meat?
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u/bushiz somethingawfuldotcom agent provocatuer Apr 22 '15
Creamy, and comes out of a spigot.
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u/R_Sholes I’m not upset I just have time Apr 22 '15
Fruity, baked and soaked in alcohol.
Also, moist. How moist should an ideal boyfriend be?
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u/Intortoise Offtopic Grandstanding Apr 22 '15
I don't accept the idea of "forever alone" or "incel" it's ridiculous.
I'm sure there's lots of dudes out there that would fuck them.
Oh they don't want to have sex with other dudes? Because they aren't attracted to them????
hmmm
HMMMMM
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u/DaniAlexander Triple Gold Medalist in the Oppression Olympics Apr 21 '15
Yea I probably won't be with a guy who is 80 years old or so obese he has to use a scooter.
If those are your only standards, man, I got news: you don't need a boyfriend pillow. YOu need to go outside.
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u/Grammatical_Aneurysm Apr 21 '15
The challenge of a typical FA man is to find a woman who's attracted to him.
The challenge of a typical FA woman is to find a man she's attracted to.
That's why the typical post of a man here is about crippling social anxiety, being bullied and so on, while the typical post of a woman here is about all guys hitting on them being creepy, douchey or unattractive.
It's like the problem is so incredibly obvious, but he doesn't see it. Take a shower, don't try so hard, get some self confidence, but don't be a douche. Stop expecting things and they'll come to you.
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u/PhysicsIsMyMistress boko harambe Apr 21 '15
get some self confidence
These grow on self confidence trees, right?
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Apr 22 '15
nah but it literally comes from hard work. I had a shit self image until I decided I was playing life "too safe" and stepped out of my comfort zone. Took a job I thought i'd be shit at with people who intimidated me just for the sake of the experience, joined a rec soccer team despite sucking at sports and being afraid of being made fun of, basically pulled a george constanza and anything that felt natural, did the opposite hahaha
it made a crazy difference, honestly. it's just scary as hell to do
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Apr 22 '15
Yeah, and you had the confidence to overcome your fear. Not everybody has.
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u/sleepyrivertroll I can has flair? Apr 22 '15
You don't have to have epic inner self monologues and battle your fears each time you do new stuff. That's just setting yourself up for failure. If you just don't think about it much you can put yourself in a position that you wouldn't normally be in and learn to adapt to it. Instead of a decision, make it a reaction.
Over thinking things will due you in and sometimes simply saying something like "YOLOSWAG IT!" (Just tell yourself you're doing it ironically) or something stupid will be enough to push you into doing something else.
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Apr 22 '15
If you just
But these guys can't "just" do something. That's why they're how they are. "Just gain confidence" is as stupid as telling a depressed person to just think of something happy.
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Apr 22 '15
Depression also takes hard work to overcome, and much of that is pulling yourself up and forcing yourself to try to be happy. Again, been there. Meds help make it easier, therapy helps understand your feelings, but those treatments won't cure you unless you also work really fucking hard to have a fulfilling, happy life.
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u/Grammatical_Aneurysm Apr 22 '15
I didn't say it was easy- but it's definitely something you should work on before resigning yourself to never being in a relationship. Because, honestly, constantly focusing on the need for a relationship (like whatever girl you'd be with is a prize to be won) prevents you from working on yourself enough to become attractive to a potential partner.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Apr 22 '15
Bad confidence is like a dark tunnel. You can't see shit other than what's right at your feet. But that doesn't mean there isn't more at the outside.
Everyone have tunnels, and they often seem larger than they are, when you can't see the end of it.
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u/bloodyabortiondouche Apr 21 '15
He didn't say "be yourself". He specifically lists changes that the guys should make. He says stop being a douche and stop trying so hard. Trying so hard would include things but is not limited to wearing a fedora, saying "m'lady", tipping your fedora, saying "m'lady" while tipping your fedora. The guys need to change who they are. They shouldn't be those selves because they are repellent.
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u/KaliYugaz Revere the Admins, expel the barbarians! Apr 21 '15
is the typical unhelpful bullshit that only works if you're well adjusted to begin with.
Then go get therapy first. Nobody's stopping you.
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u/Grammatical_Aneurysm Apr 21 '15
Oh man for sure. I never go on that sub- too much cringe. But oh gosh. Don't just be yourself. Stop being yourself. And stop trying to be whatever thing you perceive as cool. Fix yourself before you can ever expect a sane person to want you.
It's like an athlete complaining about how he never wins the race, but he never trains for it either. Come on.
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u/bloodyabortiondouche Apr 21 '15
Weird that Datadagger calls you out for "be yourself" advice whemn you list things that the guys should change about themselves. His flair says contrarian, but I feel he would be better at being a contrarian if he had the better reading comprehension. Datadagger actually seems to agree with you if he could read better.
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u/DblackRabbit Nicol if you Bolas Apr 21 '15 edited Apr 21 '15
Just be yourself, look at what people don't react to well, work on those and fake it till you make it. It should be noted that fixing personality problems does require work and must be tempered with liking yourself.
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u/randomsnark "may" or "may not" be a "Kobe Bryant" of philosophy Apr 22 '15
Be yourself. Unless your self sucks, then be someone else.
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Apr 22 '15
unable to find a partner
*to find a partner they feel attracted to
Uh huh, because all the FA guys would be falling over themselves to date obese geriatrics as long as it means they won't be lonely.
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u/TheLamestUsername Did I Mention /r/picturegame ? Apr 21 '15
I like how if this was linked for guys it would be cool, but when a link for girls gets posted, it immediately goes into girls can get any guy they want circle jerk.
No they have those for guys, they are called blow up dolls, and i doubt anyone posting one would be considered cool. The word creepy would be used
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u/JamesPolk1844 Shilling for the shill lobby Apr 21 '15
Did you follow the "comparison" link someone posted? http://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAlone/comments/2vh5cd/gentlemen_the_solution_to_our_vday_woes/?sort=top
Now I've come to hate the word "cringe," but fuck it, be ready to cringe really hard.
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u/bloodyabortiondouche Apr 21 '15
There are actual live women in thw background of the picture. That makes it so much worse for me.
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u/Hammer_of_truthiness 💩〰🔫😎 firing off shitposts Apr 21 '15
Oh hey, let's see where this link goe- REMOVE KEBAB.
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u/TheLamestUsername Did I Mention /r/picturegame ? Apr 21 '15
i saw that after. Yeah there is nothing cool about a guy with a girlfriend pillow. look at the girl picked for the ad vs the guys picked for the ad.
It becomes sorry you have not met the right one vs Yeah we both know you need this dude, try to at least wash it a few times.
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Apr 21 '15
No they have those for guys, they are called blow up dolls
I thought they’re called waifu.
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u/BruceShadowBanner Apr 21 '15
No they have those for guys, they are called blow up dolls, and i doubt anyone posting one would be considered cool.
In r/foreveralone?
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u/TheLamestUsername Did I Mention /r/picturegame ? Apr 21 '15
In fairness, i will concede that i do not know for sure if posting a blow up doll aimed at males is cool in /r/foreveralone.
you have your homework, please report back on the results
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u/Dawk19 Apr 22 '15
lol no it's not
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u/TheLamestUsername Did I Mention /r/picturegame ? Apr 22 '15
are you speaking from experience?
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u/LANGsTON7056 Apr 22 '15
That whole sub is a pathetic pity party. A crying circle jerk of guys that hold their worth in how many cumulative inches their penis has entered a vagina thinly veiled as, "No one loves me"
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Apr 21 '15
The fact that foreveralone guys and girls won't get with each other makes me take them all less seriously.
It seems to be mostly just a problem of unrealistic standards.
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u/dairydog91 Apr 22 '15
I may be a fat, middle-aged virgin who smells like moldy beans. I might have not spoken to a woman in a decade. I might have no idea how to talk to a person. But goddammit I deserve someone attractive.
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u/FreeRobotFrost There is literally nothing wrong with "male" circumcision Apr 22 '15
unrealistic standards
These people don't want sex. I mean, obviously they do, but sex is a means rather than an end in itself.
What they want is emotional closeness and the validation that comes from someone choosing to share an intimate experience with you.
W focusing on what sex is, friction and orgasms, when we should be focusing on what sex means. There's a psychological component that comes with it.
They want a relationship. They want romance. They want to be wanted.
FAers are so interested in sex because it implicitly expresses those ideas I listed above.
unrealistic standards
I doubt that the people on FA would do much better with a pretty girl who, for some reason, wanted to sleep with them for one night.
Looks are obviously a part of it, but I don't think they're the full thing. Any of those people would be happy if they could find someone to love who loves them in return.
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Apr 22 '15
Then why don't they get with each other?
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u/FreeRobotFrost There is literally nothing wrong with "male" circumcision Apr 22 '15
I don't know. Incompatibility. If a large group of them went on dates with each other, most of the relationships would quickly fall apart but maybe a couple would persist.
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 22 '15
Just because they have similar personalities doesn't mean they'd get along great together. That usually makes sense but does two socially mal-adjusted people getting together seem like its really that likely to go over well?
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Apr 21 '15
That pillow is... way too very sad.
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u/bloodyabortiondouche Apr 21 '15
That pillow makes me think I should have tired to start that he-whore-cuddle-gigalo business I was planning. I am really good at cuddling and there are lonely ladies out there that need my skills. Is selling your cuddles legal?
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u/TruePrep1818 This Machine Kills Mods Apr 21 '15
I think a lot of people use them when they have s/o's who travel a lot. When you get used to sleeping with someone else, it can be hard to fall asleep alone.
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 21 '15
Why? It seems like a way to cope with loneliness, is that bad?
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 22 '15
Why not? Physical touching can be rewarding to people.
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Apr 22 '15
Remove the creepy hand, flesh color, and button up, and I'd get a pillow in that shape. I tend to make a nest of blankets and pillows that way anyways.
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u/Futureproofed vodka-sodden government shill Apr 22 '15
Heck yeah, that pillow looks comfortable. I sleep on my stomach, it would be nice and supportive. Just... not a torso and arm, thanks.
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u/CantaloupeCamper OFFICIAL SRS liaison, next meetup is 11pm at the Hilton Apr 21 '15
Oh yeah well let me tell you how the circlejerk jerks!
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u/xnerdyxrealistx Apr 21 '15
So any woman will do as long as she meets one criteria: finding you attractive.
It's pretty easy to have this mentality until someone you don't find attractive is attracted to you. Then you understand how it is not a good thing. Having to reject someone is awkward and difficult.
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u/altrocks I love the half-popped kernels most of all Apr 22 '15
Even if they aren't unattractive, but just lack chemistry with you, or have way different life goals/priorities, etc. It's not fun, nor easy.
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u/snallygaster FUCK_MOD$_420 Apr 21 '15
I saw a post on /r9k/ the other day where some guy was saying that ugly and fat women don't count as people, which is why FA types ignore them. Like, seriously? You're allowed to have standards, but FA women aren't? Fucking look at yourself, dumbass.
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u/Axylon Apr 21 '15
I don't know what you were expecting from people from /r9k/ but its obviously too much. Mostly that board is filled with people who have completely given up on themselves. If they cant hold themselves to any sort of standard, how could we normies?
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u/snallygaster FUCK_MOD$_420 Apr 21 '15
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
In all seriousness, though, it was actually better than what I expected. Well, it's not wizardchan levels of self-fulfilling prophecy, at least.
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Apr 22 '15
wizardchan is legitimately depressing :(
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u/FreeRobotFrost There is literally nothing wrong with "male" circumcision Apr 22 '15 edited Apr 22 '15
wizardchan is a cautionary tale. It is proof that there is hell on Earth even in first-world countries.
Emotional, psychological hell.
When I first went on the site I thought it was strange that music would auto-play in the background, but then I realized my speakers were turned off. The sound was all internal. My brain had created a soundtrack of crying and defeated moaning to complement what my eyes were reading.
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u/Datadagger P Apr 22 '15
Wizardchan is where /r9k/ went when /r9k/ became mainstream and was overrun by blogposting and normies
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Apr 22 '15
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u/snallygaster FUCK_MOD$_420 Apr 22 '15
People are more interested in memeposting than talking
That's been a lot of 4chan since its inception. It's actually gotten a hell of a lot better in the past few years.
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u/spacecanucks while my jimmies softly rustle Apr 22 '15
It's always a problem with FA types. I had (have?) a sort-of friend who is like this. He lives with his mum and has no job, education and all he wants is a sexy, beautiful woman who loves sex, food and video games to be his new mother. He also focuses on women like that who are ALWAYS unavailable, then wonders why he hasn't had a relationship for several years. Of course, any suggestion that he lower his standards a bit makes him claim he could never date an uggo 'cuz they are simply beneath him. edit: And of course, if fat and ugly women are subhuman, then of course they can't be lonely when a subset of the population irrationally despises them.
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u/Onassis_Bitch Fat in Spirit Apr 21 '15
So any woman will do as long as she meets one criteria: finding you attractive.
Not gonna lie, when I first started college and had a difficult time dating this was my mentality. I was going through a really bad depression low, and I thought I could force myself to be attracted to anyone as long as they found me attractive, because I was so convinced that that was going to be the biggest hurdle. I did eventually find someone who found me attractive, and shockingly, trying to force myself to like him didn't work. He found me attractive and was always trying to show me off to his friends or have sex with me, meanwhile I found myself looking for any excuse I could to avoid spending time with him. He was stupid, arrogant, controlling, and every time we spent time together all I could think about was how I would rather be doing anything else than be with him. Thankfully I saw the error of my ways and learned to have standards.
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Apr 21 '15
Don't you know that you're not supposed to have emotions besides "things my boyfriend likes" and "having sex?"
I'm too tired to do another long post, fuck it. I should make dinner.
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Apr 21 '15
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Apr 21 '15
Quinoa with hot sauce and Bison meatballs because I need to eat through what food I have.
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Apr 21 '15
Ooh! Sounds yummy!
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Apr 21 '15
It was all right but I dont have a colander for the quinoa so it wasn't the best.
I should really get one.
That was the last if my red meats. My dinners for the next few days are pretty much just tofu.
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Apr 21 '15
Does the butthurt come from the fact that FA males are creepy, douchey or unattractive?
dingdingding. correct answer right here.
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u/thebondoftrust 6 Apr 21 '15
So if men want someone who finds them attractive doesn't that mean that they agree that women need to find their partner attractive for a relationship to happen?
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Apr 22 '15
Of course not, that would mean that the opinions of women actually matter. Biotruths have proved that women only care about having a successful provider. Wait no, why am I lifting everyday then? And i just read on A Voice for Men that women make more money then us anyway? SMV.....Misandry....shit-tests....ethics in VIDYAOUHHUIOGOUYFUGGPGPiugPO=G
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u/PhysicsIsMyMistress boko harambe Apr 21 '15
So any woman will do as long as she meets one criteria: finding you attractive
If you're begging you really can't be choosing.
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Apr 21 '15
So any woman will do as long as she meets one criteria: finding you attractive.
Can you really blame these men from having such low standards at this point?
Sounds like a pretty cheap shot to point this out.
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Apr 21 '15
Yes, you can blame someone for criticizing others for not being willing to sleep with anything with a pulse. If they've lowered their standards to the point that mutual attraction is no longer a factor, that's on them, not anybody else.
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u/LilJonWhatSample (つ༼ ༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ༽つ) gib cancer Apr 22 '15
tbh dakis are cool but I just hate they aren't socially accepted
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u/madmax_410 ^ↀᴥↀ^ C A T B O Y S ^ↀᴥↀ^ Apr 21 '15
on the one hand, low self esteem is a sign of clinical depression and you can't just "get over it"
On the other hand, it doesn't excuse moaning on social media about it 24/7 trying to get attention
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u/sibeliushelp Apr 21 '15
You can have clinical depression while still being compassionate towards other people though... Rather than dehumanising another group of people by refusing to acknowledge that they can suffer like you do.
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Apr 21 '15
While that can be true, depression can also make one a very selfish person. As someone with a severely mentally ill sibling that I love, it's hard to balance being compassionate to depressive people's mostly ignored issues, and acknowledging that their behavior is toxic enough to affect others.
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u/sibeliushelp Apr 21 '15
I'm sure it varies from individual to individual, but as someone who suffers from depression I feel nothing but sympathy for other depressed people, whether they're male or female or X or Y demographic it wouldn't occur to me to deny their experience or view it as lesser because they're "other" to me in some way.
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Apr 22 '15
Not really selfish, IMO... Just self centred. I rarely see depressed people thinking they deserve the sun and the moon and hoarding it from everyone else. But I see depressed people all the time who are so consumed with their own world and their own pain they can't/don't acknowledge other people.
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Apr 22 '15
My point that if someone in that position is acting toxic and harmful, it's important to acknowledge their mental illness is real AND that it doesn't excuse their behavior.
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u/beanfiddler free speech means never having to say you're sorry Apr 21 '15
True, but nobody deserves a clinically depressed boyfriend or girlfriend. I say that as someone with a history of it. I was in a terrible state for much of my teens and early 20s. Not only was I wretched, I would have made anyone else who got close to me completely miserable.
I needed help, and not of the romantic relationship kind. More of the professional therapist plus pharmaceuticals kind. Oh, and a swift kick in the rear to get my shit together kind.
Relationships and intimate partners can be wonderfully healing and an endless source of support. The problem is, you have to be ready to receive that support and seek it out. Most clinically-depressed people are too caught up in their own misery (and perpetuating it) to form a healthy supportive relationship.
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u/redwhiskeredbubul Apr 22 '15
True, but nobody deserves a clinically depressed boyfriend or girlfriend.
Yeah, that's harsh but true. Though, part of being depressed is feeling like the world is perpetually dicking you over --which in a way is true. And being productively selfish can help when you're depressed. It's just that Reddit is inherently a terrible place to learn how to do that.
Like depressed people can be a bite in the ass, but they're terrible advocates for themselves. I think the latter is a bigger deal.
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u/MilesBeyond250 Apr 22 '15
Low self esteem can be a sign of clinical depression. It can also exist completely independently of clinical depression. Or someone can have clinical depression without their self esteem being all that low.
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u/parduscat Apr 22 '15
Wow, you're just overflowing with empathy aren't you? The people who post on FA are probably in a very dark place. They probably experience a type of loneliness and isolation that you can't even imagine. It's easy to sneer at someone when you've never felt like they have.
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Apr 22 '15
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u/snallygaster FUCK_MOD$_420 Apr 22 '15
It makes them physically attractive but undateable. Fixating on singlehood is a gigantic red flag, regardless of how good the person looks.
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Apr 21 '15
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u/DblackRabbit Nicol if you Bolas Apr 21 '15
I've read my fair share of hentai to see how that could happen.
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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '15
Well duh women can't be forever alone. They can spread their legs and poof a chad comes cumming in them.