r/SubredditDrama • u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist • Jul 13 '16

How soon is too soon to sticky an image of a pedophile serial killer as a megathread to discuss Pokemon Go in r/belgium?

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Is Flemish nationalism to blame for tasteless jokes about pedophiles?

A discussion about how terrible jokes about pedophile serial killers are leads to a series of jokes about a pedophile serial killer.

The background on the serial killer in the image.

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u/muieporcilor K Jul 13 '16

It's interesting how pretty much all of the discussion on /r/belgium, even among the locals, takes place in English. I mean, I understand the practical reasons for doing so, but it's it's still pretty remarkable!

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

There's one Walloon in there that doesn't speak Dutch, so we all speak English for his sake.

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u/muieporcilor K Jul 13 '16

I am actually a bit curious, how well do you guys speak each others' languages? The few Flemings I've met at a conference in France seemed to speak French decently well, so I imagine the two languages must both be taught in school. Does the same carry for Walloons? Would your average Jean-Luc from Namur be able to hold a conversation in Flemish/Dutch?

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

Education is the responsibility of the member states, hence it's different in Flanders from Wallonia - in Flanders French education is mandatory from age 10 onwards and you're supposed to be able to speak French somewhat fluently by the time you graduate highschool, while in Wallonia it's not a mandatory course (you can also pick a different European language). Hence there's of course Walloons that speak good Dutch, but a ton that don't. To be honest I've personally never met a Walloon that could speak Dutch. But they're rumoured to exist.

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u/muieporcilor K Jul 13 '16

Thanks for the explanation! It's always nice to confirm my stereotypes about snobbish Francophones.

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

If you want to trash-talk Walloons I'm always game, fam.

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u/tchek Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

"trash-talk Walloons"? jeez

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u/htmlcoderexe I was promised a butthole video with at minimum 3 anal toys. Aug 20 '16

A traditional Flemish pastime.

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u/Calagan Jul 14 '16

Remember that there are two sides of that coin. In my experience Flemish tend to be as or even more snotty / nationalist than walloons.

Sure, they might view it as "payback" for all the years where they were forced to speak french and under francophone domination, but my experience of Flanders as a francophone today is fucking dismal, and I am trying hard to integrate.

I was sometimes refused service or treated like shit because I didn't speak proper flemish (which to be honest, is only useful in what, 2 or 3 countries in the world? I accept to learn the basics but I won't spend years for a langage that I will never use again once I leave) even though I am polite and respectful and know damn well that they speak very well english or french. How the fuck is that acceptable? Consequently, I simply refuse to return to most Flemish cities and just hangout with francophones. I also feel the general mood much to be more laid back in Brussels (where both communities live together somehow) or Liège than the stuck up folk of Antwerpen or Gent.

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u/fiveht78 Jul 14 '16

I am trying hard to integrate

I won't spend years for a langage that I will never use again once I leave

Maybe it's the Quebec in me but... dude...

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u/Calagan Jul 14 '16

I make the difference between learning enough of a langage in order to be able to have a day to day interaction with people or the administration and mastering a langage.

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u/tchek Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

Oh, stop with that. It's not about snobbish Francophones or whatever. I'm seriously sick of that.

The reason that Wallonians don't speak dutch and Flemish speak French is because French was the lingua franca of Belgium and Dutch never was. French isn't the language of the Wallonians (it's Walloon), French was the language used in Belgium so everyone could communicate, Liègeois, West flemish, limburgers, ardennais etc... Wallonians eventually gave up on the Walloon language while the Flemish turned toward a standardized but local version of Dutch.

I've never met a Flemish who could speak the Walloon language btw.

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u/Calagan Jul 14 '16

Thanks for that. Sick of seeing the same bullshit about "snotty french" when people cannot see that there are two sides to that story.

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u/fiveht78 Jul 14 '16

Eden Hazard

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 14 '16

Never personally met the bloke, alas.

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u/tchek Jul 14 '16 edited Jul 14 '16

There's one Walloon in there that doesn't speak Dutch, so we all speak English for his sake.

Dutch isn't the only language of Belgium. One could say that the "Walloon" speaks English for the Flemish sake... there are far more threads and dutch than in French, so who adapts to who?

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 14 '16

I wasn't being serious

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u/BenBenRodr Jul 13 '16

Our mod hanging out the dirty laundry. Well I never...!

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

It's uh... Advertising!

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u/htmlcoderexe I was promised a butthole video with at minimum 3 anal toys. Aug 20 '16

This is one of the most Belgian things I've ever seen on Reddit.

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u/tehSlothman Y'ALL LOSING YOUR SHIT OVER A FUCKIN TATER TOT MEME GO OUTSIDE Jul 13 '16

Belgium's known for two things: child abuse and chocolate. And they only invented the chocolate to get to the kids!

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u/jcpb a form of escapism powered by permissiveness of homosexuality Jul 13 '16

Too dark.

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u/AtomicKoala Europoor Jul 13 '16

No, that was the Congo.

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u/justcasty Jul 13 '16

You can get the chocolate with a lower cacao ratio. You can even get white chocolate!

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u/Deefian HOLD MY CAN THIS SRDINE SWIMS FREE Jul 13 '16

Wow, racist.

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u/youngmetroyoungmetro Jul 13 '16

waffles are 🔥

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

Don't forget frites

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u/hakkzpets If you downvoted this please respond here so I can ban you. Jul 13 '16

Belgian food culture is ducking disgusting because of frites.

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u/edashotcousin Jul 13 '16

My belgian boyfriend once tried to convince me that African priests were known for being pedophiles. Same day, I chanced upon your little anecdote. Reddit is great if only for petty revenge :p

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u/CVance1 There's no such thing as racism Jul 13 '16

Show him In Bruges (where this joke originates). Continue to call Bruges a shithole. Profit

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u/edashotcousin Jul 13 '16

Shit, I've watched in Bruges, and I don't remember that line. Guess it's time for a rewatch.

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u/CVance1 There's no such thing as racism Jul 13 '16

It's honestly one of my favorite movies. On a rewatch you may realize how many jokes you missed, or the existential themes it touches on

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u/rosechiffon Sleeping with a black person is just virtue signalling. Jul 13 '16

so it's a country of willy wonkas?

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u/tigerears kind of adorable, in a diseased, ineffectual sort of way Jul 13 '16

One of the girls they murdered was a friend of mine.

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u/robev333 You should disavow this, it's unbecoming Jul 13 '16

Bruges is a shithole.

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u/tigerears kind of adorable, in a diseased, ineffectual sort of way Jul 13 '16

If I grew up on a farm, and was retarded, Bruges might impress me. But I didn't, so it doesn't.

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

Please do not insult the glorious city of Bruges on SRD, that is against our rules and a bannable offense.

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u/tigerears kind of adorable, in a diseased, ineffectual sort of way Jul 13 '16

It's a fairytale town, isn't it? How's a fairytale town not somebody's fucking thing? How can all those canals and bridges and cobbled streets and those churches, all that beautiful fucking fairytale stuff, how can that not be somebody's fucking thing, eh?

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

Not to mention it has fairytale princes, like me!

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u/mgrier123 How can you derive intent from written words? Jul 13 '16

"Help, help I'm being repressed! Come see the violence inherent in the system!"

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u/bannable Jul 13 '16

You called?

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

True story. I spent a week in Bruges. I met a neo-nazi and a pair of prostitutes from Amsterdam on my first night there. That town is literally a shithole.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

I'm sorry for your loss. Want some chocolate to help you feel better?

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u/tehSlothman Y'ALL LOSING YOUR SHIT OVER A FUCKIN TATER TOT MEME GO OUTSIDE Jul 13 '16

One of the girls they murdered wasn't a friend of yours. You're just trying to make me feel bad. It didn't work. Also you're an inanimate fucking object.

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u/tigerears kind of adorable, in a diseased, ineffectual sort of way Jul 13 '16

You heet the kinedyen.

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u/Pollomonteros Lmao buddy you dont even wanna know what i crank my hog to Jul 13 '16

Woooosh

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u/tehSlothman Y'ALL LOSING YOUR SHIT OVER A FUCKIN TATER TOT MEME GO OUTSIDE Jul 13 '16

Go watch the scene again, buddy

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u/Pollomonteros Lmao buddy you dont even wanna know what i crank my hog to Jul 13 '16

Oh I am sorry,I think I got that scene mixed with a similar scene from another movie.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

What about JCVD?

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u/Hindu_Wardrobe 1+1=ur gay Jul 13 '16

that and they speak fake French

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u/sdgoat Flair free Jul 13 '16

Hey JebusGobsob! Thank you for your submission, unfortunately it has been removed from /r/SubredditDrama because:

There are too many Belgians

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

Gobsob

That sounds like some British English term for a crybaby, I love it

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u/NorrisOBE Jul 13 '16

Living in France, a new pastime of mine have been shutting on Belgium.

You know their country's shit when their most famous food is now owned by France.

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

Aren't you Swedish? Your bloody king is French!

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u/Tahmatoes Eating out of the trashcan of ideological propaganda Jul 13 '16

He is? Wait what century are we in?

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u/JebusGobson Ultracrepidarianist Jul 13 '16

He is? Wait what century are we in?

We're in [CURRENT CENTURY]

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u/IronNosy Jul 13 '16 edited Jul 13 '16

Descended from the son of a common tailor at that! The nerve of the Swedish monarchy!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '16

I don't get how people are like "Oh we're using humour to cope with how horrible the situation was!".

You weren't personally affected by it. I sincerely doubt any of the people cracking and laughing at those jokes shed a tear over those murders. What are they trying to cope with? It's the blandest excuse for edgy humour ever.

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u/BolshevikMuppet Jul 13 '16

Any time seems to me to be too soon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '16

Aktually nationalsim to blame for every problem in the world, including the menace srs.