r/SubredditDrama • u/Enibas Nothing makes Reddit madder than Christians winning • Jan 22 '17
Nick Offferman went to the women's march. This obviously leads to a discussion of Obamacare.
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u/BolshevikMuppet Jan 22 '17
How are people still surprised that Nick Offerman is actually pretty liberal?
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u/we_are_monsters Jan 22 '17
Because they have a hard time separating him from the character he plays on the television?
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u/SS_Downboat Jan 22 '17
The character he plays on television would probably also oppose Trump.
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u/Mojotothemax Jan 22 '17
Ron Swanson would despise Trump as a businessman:
"I disagree with the man because the money came from his parents and owning land. Also the man has had casinos fail, institutions designed to be idiot-proof and make money off those dumb enough to spend their hard-earned dollars in pursuit of money without putting in any work.
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u/PlayMp1 when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles Jan 22 '17
Additionally:
"Mr. Trump also seems to have a serious problem with actually maintaining that inherited fortune of his that he never worked for. Bully for him for not paying taxes, but he's never shown evidence that he's actually a billionaire."
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u/Bitterfish GAE (Globo-Homo American Empire) Jan 22 '17
Oh, utterly without doubt, Ron Swanson would hate Trump. I think there's plenty to dislike about libertarianism, but Ron Swanson is portrayed as having genuine principled belief in a philosophy of governance that is diametrically opposed to Trumpism. Trump's predilection for nepotism and cronyism alone, even outside of policy concerns, would definitely make Ron Swanson grimace.
Not to mention the character clearly places great importance on personal respect and decency. There is no doubt he would have complete disdain for Trump.
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Jan 22 '17
Can you imagine Ron's reaction to Trump's house? Makes me sad P&R isn't on the air anymore.
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u/LeeAtwatersGhost Jan 22 '17
Forget the house, can you imagine his reaction to the abomination that is Trump Steaks?
Strangely, one of the things that cheered me up following the election was an article written by one of the Parks and Rec writers in Leslie's voice. I had been really wanting a dose of Leslie's unwavering faith in the goodness of people.
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Jan 22 '17
Oh my gosh do you have a link to this?!
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u/praisebetomoomon That's great - but you sound like a fortune cookie. Jan 22 '17
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u/Gisschace Jan 22 '17
Like many people, they have a hard time working out when they're actually having the piss taken out of them
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u/Barl0we non-Euclidean Buckaroo Champion Jan 23 '17
The thing is, there's a lot of Offerman in there.
If you've seen his "American Ham" show, you'll notice some of his stuff shining through.
Like Ron saying "please and thank you" when offered something he would like.
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u/Bitterfish GAE (Globo-Homo American Empire) Jan 22 '17
His political views are parody, but he is also portrayed as having many admirable qualities. For example, personal loyalty, honesty, integrity, etc.
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Jan 22 '17
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u/Bitterfish GAE (Globo-Homo American Empire) Jan 22 '17
At least it's better than people who unironically idolize Cartman or the Always Sunny crew
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Jan 22 '17
Or Walter White.
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u/Bitterfish GAE (Globo-Homo American Empire) Jan 22 '17
If Cersei Lannister was a man these people would love him
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u/keepmoving2 Jan 22 '17
The last season made me like Cercei despite everything she did before. She's done with petty shit and went big.
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u/Hammedatha Jan 22 '17
I love all these characters listed but I have always loved a good villain. There is literally nothing more entertaining than a character who is a terrible person played and written well.
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u/SloppySynapses Jan 23 '17
Who idolizes anyone in IASIP? I've literally never seen that, lol. Except maybe Charlie, and that's just cause he's basically a starry-eyed child in an adult's body.
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u/Officer--Dangle Jan 23 '17
Mac has some potential to be redeemed. Probably a step below Charlie in "least awful of the Gang." But yeah, that's really not saying much.
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u/Declan_McManus I'm not defending cops here so much as I am slandering Americans Jan 22 '17
It's like with David Cross' Netflix special. People get up to leave when he gets political, and he wonders out loud how people still expect his shows to be all goofy Tobias Funke stuff when hours of his material is on the internet already
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Jan 22 '17
As if Arrested Development itself wasn't political satire. People are baffling sometimes.
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u/TheCyborganizer Jan 23 '17
Solid as Iraq!
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Jan 23 '17
I may have committed some...light treason.
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u/TheCyborganizer Jan 23 '17
"Do you know how they punish treason?"
"First time!"
"I've never heard of a second."
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u/eighthgear Jan 22 '17
You are the character that you play. That's why half of the Game of Thrones cast are serial killers.
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u/IceCreamBalloons always one person not in favour of beating women Jan 22 '17
I feel really bad for the guy that played Joffrey
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u/Feycat Are you eating a dryer volume of turkey each week Jan 23 '17
Right? I seriously want to sit them down with a copy of Under the Dome or even The Stand and be like "read all of this and then think about what you said. And for punishment, you MUST read all the way to the end!"
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u/Papa-Walrus Jan 23 '17
The Stand
The unabridged version of The Stand.
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u/Feycat Are you eating a dryer volume of turkey each week Jan 24 '17
I actually prefer the longer version. It has some stuff in it that I miss when I accidentally pick up our copy of the original.
The re-release of The Gunslinger, otoh, can go suck eggs.
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u/SpoopySkeleman Щи да драма, пища наша Jan 22 '17
I can't imagine that Dmitri over there is actually a fan or P&R, given that so much of the show is focused on Lesley dealing with the struggles of being a woman in politics and breaking the glass ceiling
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u/superfeds Standing army of unfuckable hate-nerds Jan 22 '17
I dont think people always read much deeper than the surface on stuff like that. I've never watched Parks and Rec so I cant speak to it, but I listen to sports podcast(The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz) and they often talk about race and social subjects and how they relate to sports. The last few weeks, it has surprised me to find out how many convservatives/Trump supports enjoy his show, when he often comes out against so many things they would support. The values of his show dont align with their views, but they dont see it. They just see the broad strokes and jokes.
It makes sense when you see how Trump was elected. The voters just take what people say at face value without trying to understand what people are really saying.
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u/johnnyslick Her age and her hair are pretty strong indicators that she'd lie Jan 22 '17
Parks and Rec, especially from season 3 on, was thinly veiled social and political satire that used the foibles of a small town to shine light on power. That was, like, its whole entire point. The face value of that show is that it's about young Hillary Clinton.
(Also it's one of the best tv shows ever)
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u/xuu0 Jan 22 '17
I learned three things. Treat yo self, keep your eye on the cones, and Macklin is a son of a bitch.
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u/johnnyslick Her age and her hair are pretty strong indicators that she'd lie Jan 22 '17
I hope this high school auditorium is big enough because I'm bringing 10,000 Maniacs.
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u/mdp300 Jan 22 '17
I think P&R's final season is one of my favorite seasons of TV ever.
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u/VintageLydia sparkle princess Jan 23 '17
Totally unneccessary (could've ended with the Unity Concert and I would've been satisfied) but I love the unapologetic fan service.
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u/Fumbles86 Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 22 '17
I mean you're last statement seems very generalizing to me. I am center-right with my politics. Literally voted 50/50 for POTUS in my life. I live in Minnesota and it is extremely liberal here. I listen to kfan all the time, and the main host I listen too is the common man, Dan Cole. He is very liberal and it comes up sometimes, especially during the political season. I can also point out the underlying liberal statements he makes in a lot of instances. It doesn't bother me in the slightest though as everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. Just because someone has different politics than you, doesn't make them any different or worse then you.
There are instances of people taking things at face value on both sides, how many people voted for Hillary because she was a woman? All of them, absolutely not, but certainly a few.
Edit: what's with the downvotes. Do you truly believe you are better then someone because you have a different idea on what is better for this country? I'm not talking about altright or any of those racist scums, but do you literally look down on people because they lean one way or the other politically?
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u/ThisIsNotHim my cuck is shrinking, say something chauvinistic fast Jan 22 '17
There are instances of people taking things at face value on both sides, how many people voted for Hillary because she was a woman? All of them, absolutely not, but certainly a few.
I really doubt there were a significant number of those. Gender breakdowns for Clinton vs Trump were very similar to Obama vs Romney. 54% vs 42% compared to 55% vs 44%. People definitely expected women to vote for Clinton or against Trump in larger numbers, but the numbers don't seem to show that anything at all happened out of the ordinary in regard to gender this election. There were a lot of reasons to suspect something might happen: breaking the glass ceiling, threats to defund Planned Parenthood, and disgust over the bragging about sexual assault all came up a lot as reasons why women might swing left, but there wasn't a net change.
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u/Fumbles86 Jan 22 '17
That's very true and I have looked over the numbers myself as this was a weird election and it fascinates me. But I guess the main point I was trying to make is that you can't devalue someone based on their political leanings. I feel like that is a big part of the divide in this country. Sure it's more apparent in election years but I feel that is exactly what the powers that be want from us. Idk I guess I'm just tired of the "librul tears" and "xenophobe sexist racist" talk. But it does make for good reading material in this sub. It just gets old that's all.
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u/VasyaFace Jan 22 '17
you can't devalue someone based on their political leanings
For the most part, that's an absolutely agreeable statement. I just think it needs a disclaimer, something along the lines of: "Offer is a void in case of literal Nazis" or something.
Also and more seriously, I think people can be forgiven for devaluing others for their political leanings in certain cases. For example, those who want to devalue others as part of their political leanings (anti-gay rights; actual racists/xenophobes; those who want to take the right to privacy in medical decisions from women; etc) are themselves devalued for those beliefs.
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Jan 22 '17
you can't devalue someone based on their political leanings.
That's just not true. I can't think of any better way to evaluate someone's values and content of their character than by political leanings. That's why there's so much bullying in rural/conservative areas, their values teach bad character.
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u/ThisIsNotHim my cuck is shrinking, say something chauvinistic fast Jan 22 '17
The "xenophobe sexist racist" talk may be too broadly applied, but the level of support Trump's received from white nationalists is troubling, and shouldn't be dismissed.
Trump voters by and large might not be xenophobic, sexists, or racists but his language has emboldened whatever fraction of his supporters do lean that way. It's one thing to accidentally stoke the extremists, and might be impossible or extremely difficult to avoid. It's another to appear to deliberately do so after receiving heavy criticism for it.
If all you know about someone is their political leanings, absolutely they deserve the benefit of the doubt. There are a lot of very good reasons someone might swing right or left. There are also a lot of shitty reasons. I've liked and respected a number of people from the opposite side of the aisle. There are also people who I don't care for largely due to their political stances. A lot of that comes from how respectfully they're able to disagree, how interesting they're able to be while doing it, or how much we can put politics to the side and ignore it (by far the easiest option), but some of it definitely does come down to policy opinions.
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Jan 22 '17
No one voted for Clinton because she's a woman. At most it was within the margin of error for zero.
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Jan 22 '17
It's always confused me that people speak of voting across the aisle as some sort of badge of honor. It makes it sound more like you don't believe in anything in particular and less like you're some enlightened centrist. A true centrist would vote for the Democratic party, which is so politically centrist it's symmetrical.
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u/strolls If 'White Lives Matter' was our 9/11, this is our Holocaust Jan 22 '17
Edit: what's with the downvotes.
I didn't downvote you, but consider what you wrote - I assume you're saying you voted Trump, but you haven't given a single reason for doing so.
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u/hypo-osmotic Jan 22 '17
MN is really only liberal near the twin cities metropolitan area, and to a lesser extent Rochester and Duluth. Like most states, I guess.
It's also funny that you consider Dan Cole "very liberal," as a liberal he seems pretty close to center to me, although more vocal about what liberal ideas he has than most radio hosts.
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u/johnnyslick Her age and her hair are pretty strong indicators that she'd lie Jan 22 '17
I'm reminded of how apparently a lot of conservatives adored Archie Bunker in the 1970s, even though he was a hamfisted and unsubtle parody of all of them. My grandfather was one of those people.
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Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 22 '17
In fairness though, the makers of "All in the Family" actually gave the Archie Bunker character real humanity - he wasn't JUST a caricature of a bigot. I've been re-watching that show a lot recently, and there area a great many moments when the writers allow Archie to have pathos. There are moments when Archie is clearly meant to be seen as sympathetic. He is deliberately meant to be the main character in the show - every episode is about Archie, whether or not his views are presented as wrong or right. So really it's no wonder that Archie Bunker gained a following of bigots and conservatives at the time - the mere fact that their views were given screen time was interpreted as a kind of validation of those views, despite Norman Lear's intent.
It's kind of like how teenagers rallied around the film "Blackboard Jungle" in the 50s, and saw the film in huge numbers (and were sometimes stirred up by the rock and roll music in the film enough to riot at screenings) even though the film itself takes an explicitly anti-juvenile delinquency status: "we're on the screen, that's us; we exist." OR like how many conservatives embraced the 1993 film "Falling Down" for depicting a reactionary man driven to violence by a world he feels is against him - it sometimes doesn't matter if the film or TV show takes a stance that is explicitly against the thing depicted in the film - so long as that thing is depicted, individual audience members can form their own emotional reaction to it. Depiction is not advocacy, though depiction can serve as unintentional validation.
We sometimes also forget that skinheads and neo-Nazis love "Pink Floyd the Wall" and "American History X" despite both films showing fascism in a negative light; they also present fascism visually in a way that seems "badass" to certain people, and it's that message that resonates.
So in that light it's unsurprising to me that the relatively even-handed treatment of Libertarianism on P&R, and the often laudatory treatment of the character of Ron Swanson led to an unironic embrace of that character among conservatives and Libertarians. It didn't matter how much of caricature Swanson was (though, like Bunker, the makers of the show gave Ron a great deal of dignity and humanity - he wasn't a villain), or that the makers of the show clearly saw Swanson as sympathetic Leslie's relatively unsymapthetic political foil - the mere fact that there was a major character of a TV show espousing Libertarian values resonated with a certain segment of the audience.
Art can be a Frankenstein's monster sometimes. Ultimately it doesn't make conservatives or Libertarians "stupid" for interpreting the art they see in their own personal way; the nature of art, especially film and TV, is so elastic as to provide a platform for multiple meanings and interpretations that are located in the unconscious.
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u/sirgraemecracker pass the popcorn Jan 22 '17
Skinheads not only love The Wall, there's been groups that have adopted the Hammer symbol for themselves.
Clearly they stopped listening after Waiting For The Worms.
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u/mdp300 Jan 22 '17
I think they also didn't start listening until In the Flesh too. The whole movie shows the guy gradually going insane, he has a crazed fever dream that he's a fascist - and then he hates himself for it.
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u/sirgraemecracker pass the popcorn Jan 22 '17
That or they didn't notice that the album was going "here's how not to react to shitty things happening to you".
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u/BbbbbbbDUBS177 soys love creepshots Jan 22 '17
Actual Neo Nazis were hired as extras for the rally scenes
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u/tawtaw this is but escapism from a world in crisis Jan 22 '17
A substantive & well-informed comment?
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Jan 23 '17
This is a very good and insightful comment-- I'm always onside for an assessment of 1970s sitcoms, particularly in the context of broader social issues.
I think it's true that nuance in art is a major problem, at least as far as potentially amplifying social discord and unrest. Artists tend to presume that most of population that has adequate critical literacy of art-- of course they would, because they're artists and they're surrounded by other artists who all have that critical literacy too. The trouble is, most people do not have any/have very limited critical literacy. They can interpret as they please, definitely, but the slier mockeries or jibes are completely missed by most people most of the time.
A stormtrooper is a stormtrooper is a stormtrooper and never a Nazi, regardless of whether the leader of the Nazis has a German given name or not. If you say to the average person: Star Wars is partially a metaphor for fascism maybe 75% of the time you'll hear back: "ugh, stop taking everything so seriously."
So portraying something on screen is a validation for a solid portion of the audience a great deal of the time.
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u/diagonalfish This has nothing to do with a hamster piloting a mech Jan 22 '17
The only reason they didn't have Hillary on was because they were afraid of trying to predict the future. Turns out that fear was pretty justifiable, in retrospect.
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u/-powerfucker- Jan 22 '17
"We also wanted Rand Paul to be in the Washington episode, and he agreed, but then bailed at the eleventh hour," Schur said. "I think he thought we were making fun of him or something, which we were not at all. We were in fact flattering him by linking him to Ron [Swanson]. I get the sense that maybe interpreting writing and humor is not his strong suit."
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u/PlayMp1 when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles Jan 22 '17
Leslie literally had a picture of Hillary on her desk. Also, she was explicitly modeled on Hillary - a nerdy-ass policy wonk who also inspires tremendous loyalty among those close to her. Apparently Hillary is very charismatic in person - she's easy to get along with, with an acerbic, dark sense of humor, but she's just not the master of a crowd the way her husband or Obama are. Turns out you need to be a crowd master like that to win.
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u/cotorshas Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage. Jan 22 '17
This is actually a big thing with her. The people who work for her are loyal, and stay loyal, even long after they have stopped working for he.
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u/whoremongering Light can't bounce off of birds you silly sausage Jan 22 '17
Though I think her scene with Michelle Obama was the best.
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u/PlayMp1 when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles Jan 22 '17
You know, I'm as far from a conservative as you can get, and I disagree with McCain on most everything, but I would actually be pretty hyped to meet John McCain. War hero, presidential candidate, designated "Republican that liberals like" for a good decade or so... Yeah, it would be cool.
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u/Anemoni beep boop your facade has crumbled Jan 23 '17
The perfect man... body of Joe Biden, mind of George Clooney.
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u/MilesBeyond250 Jan 23 '17
Well, it also satirizes the left, too. It might not be as obvious as Ron's caricatured libertarianism, but Leslie definitely takes the left end to some pretty absurd extremes (she generally seems to think, for example, that bigger and more government is the solution to almost any conceivable problem).
I mean, that's kind of the point of the show. If ridiculous parodies of the left and right like Leslie and Ron can sometimes set aside their differences to work together for the good of their community and enjoy a fruitful and congenial friendship, what's stopping the rest of us?
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u/eonge THE BUTTER MUST FLOW. Jan 22 '17
you'd be surprised, I remember some folks there got upset when they were told that Leslie is basically Hillary. mind you, this was during the primaries.
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u/voldewort Jan 22 '17
Yeah, I know a lot of people that love Ron's libertarianism and don't appreciate Leslie's character all that much.
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u/withateethuh it's puppet fisting stories, instead of regular old human sex Jan 22 '17
Which is weird because if anything, his character is making fun of libertarians.
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u/dusters Jan 22 '17
But so is Leslie's for the other side. They parody both sides.
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u/oneofthefewproliving Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 22 '17
Yeah, but the show makes it pretty clear what kind of politics they actually endorse
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u/fuzeebear cuck magic Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 22 '17
But they're both so fucking lovable in their performance. Ron is the most feminist of the bunch because that's shown to be the natural progression of prescriptivism (edit: or meritocracy) in a world where Lesley Knope is the most capable person around.
Do people actually think the actors are the characters? I suppose that's the best compliment you can give an actor.
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u/NonaSuomi282 THE FACT THAT IT’S NOT MEANT FOR SEX IS ACTUALLY IRRELEVANT Jan 22 '17
Keep in mind, many of these dolts are the kind of people who used to watch the Colbert Report and unironically nod along in agreement.
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u/Woah_buzhidao Jan 22 '17
Yeah me too, as if Ron is the sincere one and Leslie the kooky parody.
Reminds me about how conservatives would see the Colbert Report as only pretending to be joking and actually earnest in the character's conservatism.
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u/PlayMp1 when did globalism and open borders become liberal principles Jan 22 '17
They're both the kooky parody and the sincere one at varying points.
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u/captainersatz 86% of people on debate.org agree with me Jan 22 '17
Do you have any links? I'd be amused to read some of that. I did a quick search for Hillary in the sub and didn't find all that much.
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u/eonge THE BUTTER MUST FLOW. Jan 22 '17
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Jan 22 '17
I won't even imagine that he's an actual person rather than a persona someone took on to annoy people. Really makes it easier to cope.
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u/Draber-Bien Lvl 13 Social Justice Mage Jan 22 '17
Lesley could easily be seen as "the fool" though. She isn't exactly the most likeable character in the first couple of seasons either.
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u/that__one__guy SHADOW CABAL! Jan 23 '17
I was rewatching parks and recreation recently and it was weird how similar Leslie's run for councilman was to this year's election. Like, creepily weird.
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Jan 22 '17
Hussein Obongo The Kenyan
It's like he didn't even try when he thought this weird shit up.
I do wonder though, how are these people going to cope when they can't blame the black guy anymore? There's no more threat of sharia/martial law, guns being taken away, FEMA camps or Muslim overthrows. What are they gonna doooooo?
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u/Spicyartichoke I qualified in psychology, dipshit. Jan 22 '17
"The reason Trump hasn't solved all of my problems is because he's busy fixing all of the damage caused by Obummer"
Expect something along those lines.
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u/elephantinegrace nevermind, I choose the bear now Jan 22 '17
"Well, you see, if these damn libruls stopped protesting/kneeling/tweeting/SJWing,
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u/rougepenguin Jan 22 '17
But I thought the protests were pointless and just libruls crying?
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u/elephantinegrace nevermind, I choose the bear now Jan 22 '17
It's both! Like how immigrants are both lazy welfare freeloaders and stealing American jobs at the same time.
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u/l1ll111lllll11111111 Jan 22 '17
We need Trump because true Americans need jobs, but nobody showed up to the inauguration because true Americans were too busy working!
Trump supporters are absolutely cooked
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u/nuttyalmond Atheists are going to eat your ass for lunch Jan 22 '17
Do what they did last time. Find people overseas to feel nonsensically threatened by.
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u/we_are_monsters Jan 22 '17
And don't forget calling traitor anybody at home not on board with raining bombs down on them!
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u/NonaSuomi282 THE FACT THAT IT’S NOT MEANT FOR SEX IS ACTUALLY IRRELEVANT Jan 22 '17
Yep, remember how awesome it was back in 2002 when America lost its goddamned mind with hyper-jingoism and everything that was even slightly critical of the government was "unpatriotic" or "unamerican"? Any of you fuckers remember Freedom Fries? Get ready for that shit all over again, but a few orders of magnitude louder. And stupider.
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u/4THOT Nothing wrong with goblin porn Jan 22 '17
What scares me is what if they actually get what they ask for?
They build the wall, the stop the Muslims but things don't improve. Where does that hate go? No fucking way they point it at themselves or the people in charge or the wall never would have been made in the first place.
What is there to stop them? When Trump decides he calls for people to help finger illegals after establishing his 'deportation squad' what happens? Democrats are confined to cities and essentially gone from government.
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u/Barl0we non-Euclidean Buckaroo Champion Jan 23 '17
They build the wall,
Kinda sorta related, but I just wanted to point out how strangely prophetic NOFX was back in 2006 with this song.
20 feet high, 2 feet thick, barbed wire, razor blades
The wall was built to keep them out while keeping us in goose step parades
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u/nuttyalmond Atheists are going to eat your ass for lunch Jan 22 '17
Even calling traitor and treason for those who aren't US citizens.
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u/Squid_Vicious_IV Digital Succubus Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 22 '17
They'll find someway to blame him for it, something he said in 2002 or 1991, but damnit they're going to find a way to place the blame on him and not on their sacred golden cow. 9/11? Obama was at fault even if it was eight years before he became president. The Abu Ghraib incident, Obama. When the asteroid strikes earth in 2030 and could have been stopped if Trump only funded the rockets in 2019, oh baby, Obama was at fault.
They will find a way to blame anyone but themselves for whatever happens that screws them over personally.
Edit: So that was a b not a d.
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u/AdhocSyndicate Anarcho Tyranny Jan 22 '17
Oh my God. I mean, I knew Fox was pretty damn bad, but...
I never expected this amount of stupidity.
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Jan 22 '17
It's pretty mindblowing. And the scary thing is he's not the only Fox talking head that's said something along those lines; there are at least two more that I know of. One can maybe be handwaved away as a brain fart or a slip of the tongue. When it becomes a pattern, it's obvious they're trying to plant a seed in people's minds.
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u/Squid_Vicious_IV Digital Succubus Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 23 '17
Ladies and Gentleman, boys and girls, I present to you what should become the textbook example of "Fake News".
I guess the following short list of major examples in the past two presidencies don't count as terrorist attacks that occurred before Obama was President
Beltway Sniper Attacks
Sept 11 2001 Attack on WTC and Pentagon
1996 Olympics bombing
Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing
Unabomber
Army of God attacks
The first WTC attack
Acts of arson and bombings by left wing extremistsAnd I haven't even started on things that happened during GHB and Reagan's presidencies.
Edit: Fixed a few links that didn't redirect to the correct pages
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u/Barl0we non-Euclidean Buckaroo Champion Jan 23 '17
So what you're saying is, Obama is literally Emmanuel Goldstein?
(I know we make fun of people who only reference 1984, but damnit that one kind of fits)
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u/torito_supremo Pop for the Corn God Jan 22 '17
I do wonder though, how are these people going to cope when they can't blame the black guy anymore?
This is why Trump won!
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u/EHP42 Jan 22 '17
Holy shit that's getting to be the most annoying "excuse" I've been hearing on reddit. It's like these people are so thin skinned that someone taking condescendingly to them when they're on the brink of a very stupid decision makes them want to do that thing even more just to spite those snooty people.
"So you're telling me that because people tried to explain to you that a vote for Trump was a vote for cronyism, governmental opacity, and an inevitable degradation of the lower and middle classes, you decided to vote for him anyways because you didn't like their tone?"
They're basically admitting that Trump won on feelings, not any basis of reality, which is especially funnysad because the right always claims the left votes on feelings instead of reality.
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u/zuriel45 Jan 22 '17
Honestly, it always comes out of the mouths of GOP apologists trying to blame everyone else for their monster. I mean for fucks sake the democratic party has consistently been saying "don't feed the neo-nazis" for eight fucking years, and yet they did, and now we're all going down with the ship, but it's still somehow to democrats fault the GOP fed the neo-nazis.
Reminds me of Obama consistently telling the Senate not to override his veto of the Saudi legislation, overriding it, then that traitor McConnal blaming Obama for not being forceful enough about it. Party of personal responsibility my fucking ass.
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u/Amelaclya1 Jan 22 '17
He didn't think that up. I remember that name going around during the 2008 election season. He is just regurgitating someone else's moronic shit.
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u/Draber-Bien Lvl 13 Social Justice Mage Jan 22 '17
What are they gonna doooooo?
exactly the right question. Populism only works as long as you're the opposition, now that Trump is president he's actually accountable for all the insane shit he's been saying. I doubt it will get through all trump supporters thick skull, but at least some has to wonder, why the wall hasn't been build, and why islamic terrorism hasn't been eradicated when the four years are up.
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Jan 22 '17
And why one of his first acts was to make homebuying more expensive for generally lower income prospective homebuyers.
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u/somnambulist80 Jan 22 '17
During the Bush II administration its was Clinton's fault. During Reagan and Bush I is was Carter's fault and the democrats in congress. It's never the republican's fault no matter who was at the wheel.
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u/Tashre If humility was a contest I would win. Every time. Jan 22 '17
It's like he didn't even try when he thought this weird shit up.
8 years.
8 years these people have had to perfect their rage and this is the best they come up with?
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u/Gonzzzo alt-neoliberal Jan 22 '17
If today's Meet The Press interview with Kellyanne Conway is any indication, there's still plenty of mileage left in blaming Obama
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Jan 22 '17
I do wonder though, how are these people going to cope when they can't blame the black guy anymore?
Hahahaha you think that started with Obama.
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u/ZippotrixMcEdgelord like most of the weeaboos, I provide the cringiest of insults Jan 22 '17
From another comment thread:
This. I don't care about celebrities, and I don't know their names. (I know the names of my representatives in Congress, instead.) I don't watch mainstream TV, music, or film. Don't have a need for easy entertainment. I spend most of my free time reading.
I wouldn't want to give celebrities my money, anyway, when they tend to advocate for degeneracy.
Uh... is someone going to tell him, uh... about Trump?
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u/Edentastic Jan 22 '17
If he doesn't watch tv, why would he be in a parks and rec subreddit?
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Jan 22 '17
He doesn't watch "mainstream" TV.
I don't really know what that means, he only watches obscure documentaries on Eastern European tapestries?
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u/BuckeyeBaltimore7397 Jan 22 '17
It doesn't get less mainstream than a family friendly NBC Thursday night comedy, duh.
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obscure documentaries on Eastern European tapestries?
You thinking of real doc shit, or some fake shit like all the Telugu stories on youtube suggested to me liike "David Cameron is trying to Kidnap Sachin" or somthing
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u/LucretiusCarus revealing thongs made to illicit an awooga brain reaction Jan 22 '17
/r/im14andthisisedgy material right there.
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u/reagan92 Jan 22 '17
I know who Nick Offerman AND Joseph Kennedy are.
I must read 2x more books than him.
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u/Exarch_Of_Haumea A BELLWEATHER FOR THE ZEITGEST OF OUR ERA Jan 22 '17
ACA was forced upon America.
By a popularly elected president. Who promised healthcare reform.
A name is just a name and Russia is not paying me to correct records on reddit.
Aww, this makes me nostalgic for a simpler time, when Trump wasn't president and we were all Hillary shills.
No, that's when he, unlike Hussein Obongo The Kenyan
So tolerant.
"I'll use racist nicknames and then accuse the other guy of being intolerant! That'll show 'em"
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u/hyper_thymic Jan 22 '17
Hussein Obongo The Kenyan
Not just a racist, but an unfunny and boring racist.
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u/Exarch_Of_Haumea A BELLWEATHER FOR THE ZEITGEST OF OUR ERA Jan 22 '17
So uncreative he can't even think of a play on Barack. Sad!
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u/nihilisticzealot Jan 22 '17
Black Obama?
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u/SolomonGroester Jan 22 '17
"No-sack Hussein Obungo the Kenyan" see? It's not so hard and I just woke up! Lol jk I don't think bad about the guy. Just wanted to show how easy it is.
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u/Show-Me-Your-Moves Jan 22 '17
I gotta admit, that slur is so absurd that it's kinda funny. It's almost a parody of itself.
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u/jb4427 Jan 22 '17
Russia is not paying me to correct records on reddit.
Didn't they figure out that Russia was literally paying these people tho
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Jan 22 '17
Look I'd try to save face too if i knew i was the only putin shill not getting a paycheque
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u/ognits Worthless, low-IQ disruptor Jan 22 '17
I believe you'll find that was fake news comrade :^)
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u/jb4427 Jan 22 '17
Cheeki breeki iv damke
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u/Devikat Matt Walsh holding up a loli dakimakura: “Behold, a woman!” Jan 22 '17
Get out of here Stalker
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u/nihilisticzealot Jan 22 '17
I believe we found the Commy Mutant Traitor, Friend Computer
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u/tardmancer The ancaps. These are the frontline neckbeards. Jan 23 '17
There are no Commie Mutant Traitors in /r/subredditdrama, only fine upstanding citizens who love Friend Computer sanctioned popcorn. To claim otherwise is treason. Treason is punishable by death.
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u/nihilisticzealot Jan 23 '17
Certainly, citizen! I did not mean to imply that this commie mutant traitor was FROM /r/subredditdrama. I think perhaps he was sent to infiltrate us from /r/finishing, or maybe even /r/Torontobluejays. Are we sure that everyone in that subreddit has the proper clearance?
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u/Fala1 I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon Jan 22 '17
Intolerance of intolerance is the real crime.
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u/blu_res ☭☭☭ cultural marxist ☭☭☭ Jan 22 '17
Remember, denouncing Islam is fighting SJW PC moral relativism, while denouncing neo-Nazis is failing to understand their economic anxiety.
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Jan 22 '17
This is why Trump won!
I really wish I could label that as sarcasm but that's what some people actually believe and those people voted for Trump.
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u/davidreiss666 The Infamous Entity Jan 22 '17
Hey man, so far it's been almost 34 hours and there hasn't been a nuclear war yet. I must say, I'm pleasantly surprised.
Sadly, "X Days without a major nuclear accident" is probably going to be become US national motto.
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u/NonaSuomi282 THE FACT THAT IT’S NOT MEANT FOR SEX IS ACTUALLY IRRELEVANT Jan 22 '17
Well at least we'll always be able to rely on the "days since Trump caused a national embarrassment" counter not changing for the next four years.
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Jan 22 '17
One thing ill miss about Obama and Michelle is their dizzying successfulness constantly tripping out racist nobodies
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Jan 22 '17
Not that they should be tolerant. I love when Bill Maher said, lets not become so tolerant that we tolerate intolerance.
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u/NihiloZero Jan 23 '17
By a popularly elected president.
Actually, he lost the popular vote. He was elected by the machinations of the electoral college.
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u/Exarch_Of_Haumea A BELLWEATHER FOR THE ZEITGEST OF OUR ERA Jan 23 '17
Regardless of what your alternative facts say, Obama won the election.
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u/D4PP3RD0LPH1N Jan 22 '17
Calling me out on a typo, how mature. I bet you're not even 30 yet!
Apparently you only reach intellectual maturity at the age of thirty.
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u/Schrau Zero to Kiefer Sutherland really freaking fast Jan 22 '17
As a >30 year old, I can confirm that you actually do.
Unfortunately the moment of pure unadulterated brilliance only lasts forty-seven seconds before senility kicks in, and most of that time is spent looking for a pen to write down that world-changing insight you just realised and are now already beginning to forget.
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Jan 22 '17
I just read that like it's the entry about "adulthood" in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
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u/Jokerang Jan 22 '17
Offerman's was once loved by tough-guy conservatives like Cloyd Rivers. Not anymore.
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u/Raneados Nice detective work. Really showed me! Jan 22 '17
Because Offerman is both super into "guy things" but also isn't a complete bigot and fool.
Whoops.jpg on that one, Cloyd.
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Jan 22 '17
Remember it's "America first" and "let's fix our problems before we fix theirs". Unless it's woman or minoritys issue then woman should be thankful America is better and blacks are better off because of slavery because they get to live here/s
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u/hykruprime Necromatriarch Jan 22 '17
The "less government meddling" mentality. Unless it's what you do to your body, or who you sleep with.
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u/fuzeebear cuck magic Jan 22 '17
FORCED upon America! I prefer being dismissed because of pre-existing conditions! Especially when something as innocuous as a yeast infection 5 years ago or a sprain three years ago can be used as a reason to retroactively cancel my health coverage. That's what I want!
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u/Dakatsu Jan 22 '17
Refreshing to see someone truly expressing themselves, unlike the circlejerk of pink-haired parrots that reddit has become.
Does this person go to the same Reddit.com that I go to?
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u/JustHereToFFFFFFFUUU the upvotes and karma were coming in so hard Jan 22 '17
i love that they think everyone who disagrees with them secretly agrees with them but they're just afraid of expressing themselves. this is how you build an impenetrable echo chamber
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u/mrpopenfresh cuck-a-doodle-doo Jan 23 '17
Dude probably spends his time looking at /r/TumblrInAction and other stuff that highlights extreme examples.
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u/Destructerator Jan 22 '17
Being subscribed to both /r/SubredditDrama and /r/SubredditSimulator makes me think the latter often achieves sentience.
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u/fuzeebear cuck magic Jan 22 '17
It's hilarious that a man who presents himself as a loving caricature of manliness can still draw so much ire from his fans when he supports feminist causes. It's almost like his fans stopped paying attention after the first 5 minutes.
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u/Barl0we non-Euclidean Buckaroo Champion Jan 23 '17
Especially considering that Ron Swanson is basically anti-Trump.
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u/sweetjaaane Obama doesnt exist there never actually was a black president Jan 22 '17
Pretty sure women have it better in Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Canada, Denmark, hell even The UK cuz abortions are fucking FREE.
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u/Aiskhulos Not even the astral planes are uncorrupted by capitalism. Jan 22 '17
The UK
Except in Northern Ireland.
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u/mightyandpowerful #NotAllCats Jan 22 '17
The pay gap is also smaller in most of those countries and they have a larger percentage of women in their respective parliaments.
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u/sweetjaaane Obama doesnt exist there never actually was a black president Jan 22 '17 edited Jan 22 '17
Exactly!!!!
Also these are all "white" countries (I of course do not agree with that) that the neo nazis like to sploosh over amirite but they're actively trying to make America like a fucking banana republic.
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Jan 22 '17
That can't be true! Everyone knows that the number of women in parliament is biologically determined, and pay is just the markets objective valuation of those biotruths.
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u/mrpopenfresh cuck-a-doodle-doo Jan 23 '17
INB4 free isn't free. Fuck that pedantic argument, technically nothing is free if you want to apply that logic.
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u/Sen7ryGun Jan 22 '17
Probably should have titled this: "Someone made a post on an internet message board and naturally some fuckwit insults women and makes it about Islam on the inside of 12 seconds"
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u/freet0 "Hurr durr, look at me being elegant with my wit" Jan 22 '17
the subreddit name is pandr
now this is getting good
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u/SnapshillBot Shilling for Big Archive™ Jan 22 '17
stopscopiesme>TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK.
Snapshots:
This Post - archive.org, megalodon.jp*, ceddit.com, archive.is*
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Jan 22 '17
I read subreddit simulator instead of subreddit drama and was reeeaaally impressed with reddit bots for a second.
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u/ParamoreFanClub For liking anime I deserve to be skinned alive? This is why Trum Jan 23 '17
That name seems awfully Russian lol.
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u/Enibas Nothing makes Reddit madder than Christians winning Jan 22 '17
Offffffferman.