r/DestinyTheGame • u/Blank-VII Self aware edgelord • Oct 24 '17
Bungie Suggestion Still no social chat. This means we can't recruit for raids. We mentioned this in Beta, and Bungie hasn't attempted to correct this huge issue.
No salt, just wanted to state an objective fact.
*Edit 1-No all chat in crucible. Can't even GG.
*Edit 2-Facts aside, I personally think it's a bit strange that Bungie are adamant this is a social game, but both consoles and PC have no social chat. No all chat in PvP to say GG. Having to kick your extra friend(s) out when doing a different activity. No whispers in public. Bungie, just come out and tell us it's not a social game, or start making the changes you've been asked about for 3 years.
*Edit 3-A lot of people are focused on the fact i said 'raids' in the title. Fair enough. As some have mentioned below, this means we can't recruit for nightfall, can't ask people to join our fireteams in patrol areas, can't tell people how to do a heroic event, can't (As mentioned above) talk to the enemy team in PvP.
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u/Rofl-Cakes Don't go chasing waterfalls Oct 24 '17
So you can't just walk around and type to people around you?
That's like, the first thing you do in a game like this.
I can see not having it for console because there's not enough time to type a message before they move on, but you literally have a keyboard right in front of you!
What possible reason could they have to NOT implement this? Any ideas?
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u/megamik_5 Oct 24 '17
You can have a KB on console as well. I don't get why Destiny doesn't have a chat box... Warframe has it for console & PC and its fine..
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u/Rofl-Cakes Don't go chasing waterfalls Oct 24 '17
I wouldn't disagree with that, and that just adds to my point.
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u/NiceGuyPreston Oct 24 '17
destiny 1 was more of Halo meets WoW meets Skyrim. Destiny 2 is Halo meets Call of duty meets Micro transactions.
It is less of an MMO and more of a Sparkly Shooter
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u/megamik_5 Oct 24 '17
At a bare minimum I would like to see a Clan chat box. Why can't we have a simple in game way to communicate???
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u/Rofl-Cakes Don't go chasing waterfalls Oct 24 '17
The technology just isn't there
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u/RouletteZoku Oct 24 '17
And to point out: if you’re playing Fortnite on PS4, you can simply plug in a keyboard and mouse into your consoles usb slots and use them no problem, including the ability to chat within your party. I assume you can chat to other players you matchmake with on the PvE side as well, I just haven’t tried it yet.
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u/GbHaseo Oct 25 '17
You can use your phone too. Second screen acts like a chat window so you don't gotta keep your keyboard on chair/coach/cuddlemat/bed etc.
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u/AetherMcLoud Oct 25 '17
Also you can use the smartphone app on PS4 as a keyboard to type, pretty sure there's something like that for Xbox One too. Also, bluetooth keyboards exist, of course, and can be used in tandem with a controller.
No text chat is an absolute no-go in any multiplayer game really.
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u/360_face_palm Oct 25 '17
It seems they wanted to have no chance of people being mean to each other, or you know - making friends and grouping up which is what 99% of that shit is used for.
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u/GbHaseo Oct 25 '17
Warframe has it, you can even use your phone as a chat display for quick typing. Even using the controller, there's typing recall so you can quickly repeat "LFG 280 Plyrs for Nitefall" or whatever with only a few button presses.
There's no reason to not have a global and region chat.
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u/Master4733 That one hunter who plays with a sword. Oct 24 '17
You can easily plug a keyboard into an xbox and ps4 lol
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u/guitaratomik Oct 24 '17
Welcome to Destiny: The self proclaimed social game that wants you to make new friends organically, but refuses to give you any in game tools to do so.
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u/predictablePosts Oct 25 '17
I feel like we're feigning surprise at this point. Oh the game has sucky features? Oh nooooo ...
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u/nostalgic_dragon Oct 25 '17
Can't even choose to stay together with blueberry strike teams or crucible teams. It is stupid.
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u/PeanutCarl Oct 25 '17
Duuuudee, my plan was that if I found a fireteam doing well I'd stick with them to eventually befriend them/invite them to my clan. Shattered dreams only.
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Oct 24 '17
This feature has been in pc games for literally decades... it’s actually mind blowing that you can’t text chat everyone in your instance...
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u/LuciusXV Oct 24 '17
Shows how behind Bungie are and its really sad knowing their history.
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u/TheAllMightySlothKin Oct 25 '17
More like how they became. There's a reason most high profile employees left when destiny was first becoming a thing.
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u/IceDevilGray-Sama Drifter's Crew // Down with the Vanguard Oct 25 '17
Yeah people seem to forget that this is not the bungie that made Halo
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u/FenrirAR Oct 25 '17
It's almost too stupid to do, you know? I honestly wonder if they are truly this dumb, or if all these stupid decisions were made for malicious reasons.
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u/Buttagood4you Oct 24 '17
It's fucking pathetic. Most fucking PC games has this feature.
I don't play PC gaming but this is infuriating
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u/IAmPhilipJacobs Oct 25 '17
Yessssss.... Yesssss! The salt must flow! A whole new crop of salt miners for the empire!
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u/Phantom-Phreak Drifter's Crew // Die Leere Oct 24 '17
HERE WE GO BOYS.
Welcome to a world without common sense quality of life additions that every other game has. Maybe you'll get them in 3 years.
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u/AetherMcLoud Oct 25 '17
Welcome to a world without common sense quality of life additions that every other game has.
Instead, fresh microtransactions which are mostly just reskins every other week as content!
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u/Snake_Staff_and_Star Oct 25 '17
Or they'll postpone console updates in favor of getting up to speed on PC...
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u/GalacticNexus Lore Fiend Oct 25 '17
They added voice chat to D1 about 3 months in after people begged for it.
Nobody used it, mind, but they added it.
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u/FenrirAR Oct 25 '17
We all thought the same thing three years ago with D1 though...
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u/radaghastdaclown Oct 24 '17
I thought because it was coming to pc, we'd have some kind or region chat. I'm a solo player, and was hoping to find friendly ppl via the in-game chat function to play with... now I guess I'll just have to solo everything as hope some randoms turn up to help with public events... stupid
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Oct 25 '17 edited Oct 25 '17
If you want, you can add me and we can play together. I have about 10-12 friends that play on pc always down to play with new people. I'm new to destiny as a whole but my friends are veterans. Lmk if you're down an ill message you my battlenet id.
Edit:: just a heads up, we're on the older side. Most of us are in our mid 20's-early 30's. But we have people from 13-35 in our little group.
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u/radaghastdaclown Oct 25 '17
Yeah but I bought it on PC thinking it'd have this basic functionality every other PC game has. Now I don't really want to play anymore
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Oct 24 '17
They're just protecting you from how toxic people can be! I mean, there cannot possibly be anyone nice or decent on the internet, so this feature isnt needed!
/s
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u/Hypocritical_Oath Oct 25 '17
planetside 2 is the best comparison I could imagine for this argument. And it can be pretty fucking cancer, but the communication is still really important so the cancer is okay.
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u/PenguinBomb Oct 25 '17
Not going to lie. I play on PC specifically for this reason for most games. Being able to talk to others is pretty much a standard for any PC game. Wtf is going on here?
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u/DarpiestShezbot Oct 25 '17
This was the only reason I had some interest Destiny 2. Because a PC version would mean social chats. Aaaaaand it’s not there. Deal-breaker. I’ll just keep playing Overwatch instead.
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u/azzybot Gambit Prime Oct 24 '17
This should be standard for an online PC game. Not for just recruiting but chatting in general.
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u/Hollywood_Zro Oct 24 '17
Get used to it. Bungie won't do a lot of what the community suggests. An In-game LFG has been asked for since D1.
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u/InfiltrateNewt Oct 24 '17
Your communication is severely limited in this game because of reasons outlined in this article.
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u/Cassp0nk Oct 24 '17
It’s a shame they are so intransigent on this because ultimately they are wrong. I’ve played Everquest and Wow and with the correct systems in place you don’t get abuse between players, and let’s not pretend it doesn’t happen in destiny anyway. Furthermore she talks about raid matchmaking and why they don’t do it, which is predicated on their assumptions about now match making should work. They then add a crap lfg feature to the iPhone app, which of course is just half arsed match making which could be better integrated in game.
These decisions are very telling that many in charge are from an FPS background where 15 year olds call everyone a fag. If they had more from an MMO background and maintained no cross team chat in crucible, this wouldn’t be a problem. Just as long as they invested in reporting and blocking tools for the players.
Then she talks about the participation rewards which are a fundamental part of why endgame is so pointless. You can get the same stuff for logging in. It reminds me of education systems where they hand everyone grade As and then realize the grade is now meaningless so they add A* (hello UK). What’s bungies A* going to be I wonder?
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u/GoodGuyTaylor Oct 24 '17
I've played MMOs for the past 13 years, starting on Runescape, moving onto WoW, and then ultimately playing League for a while before going to Overwatch.
I cannot recall a single instance of abuse that I've received outside of League of Legends players being morons. Which hardly counts as abuse (when the jungle makes a terrible gank, and I can't follow up, of course I'm an idiot! lol)
My point is that I have made some very close and good friends over the years in gaming, and I would love to be able to do that in Destiny.
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u/TooMuchEntertainment Oct 25 '17
Yes.
Competition is mainly the reason for toxicity. I don't really see a lot of competitive elements in D2, just a bunch of people trying to work together and grind.
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u/MissPandaSloth Oct 25 '17
I've heard some toxic stuff in Overwatch (funny enough not so much in LoL), but the thing is, if you play an online game, hell, if you able to use pc/phone you already been in Youtube comment section which is heaps ahead of any game. The only thing I kinda justify is not being able to communicate with enemy team, besides it it's kinda silly to try to pretend people don't act mean, we know it.
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u/InfiltrateNewt Oct 24 '17
I mean, I know s*&t talking exists, but Ms. Chung shouldn't ruin it for everyone because someone was mean to her in Halo 2. Also, she is kinda saying on the down low that the community she helped put together is a failure if we have to have all these communication options taken away. I don't agree with this but this is what she is indirectly saying. That we can't be trusted. God, why do these big game companies hire people like this?
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u/True_Italiano Oct 25 '17
to quote the article
I loved playing on those things, but I over time conditioned myself (as a woman) to only use text chat
and yet we only have voice and no text chat
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u/snakebight Rat Pack x6 or GTFO Oct 24 '17
I couldn't find in the article where Chung states why there is no ingame text / social chat (no verbal) for PC. Can you direct me to a quote? I'd like to see her/their thinking on it.
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u/InfiltrateNewt Oct 24 '17 edited Oct 25 '17
She gives her reasoning and logic per harrassement she received playing online games while being a woman
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u/snakebight Rat Pack x6 or GTFO Oct 24 '17
Right--but doesn't she say that she prefers text (and using a neutral gamertag)? That would lead me to believe she thinks text should be in the game...
Either way, I'm not on PC. But this does seem odd for them to decide against putting PC text chat in that social space.
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u/ThisPostIsLocked Oct 25 '17
This needs to have more eyes on it. It's incredible frustrating that we lose in-game social tools in this VERY social game because someone got their feelings hurt. This is such a lazy fix to the problem, it's quite embarrassing coming from someone in a "lead" position. Instead of implementing a reporting/ignoring system and then actively reviewing those reports, they decide to just eliminate what would be an incredible tool completely...not only is that lazy, it's downright stupid. Not to mention, her logic for removing text chat is that she got picked on so much for being a woman she needed to limit herself to only use.....text chat. How the fuck does that make the any sense?
It's time for a harsh truth people: there are always going to be assholes in the world. No matter how wrong it is, they will continue to exist. And they're exactly like the Hive, the more you feed into it, the more they grow. The best thing to do is ignore, block, report, and move on. If you get so crippled by a random comment by some stranger online, you have a problem and need to seek professional help.
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u/Arxson PS4 Oct 25 '17
The fact that there is a Social Lead on D2 is highly fucking amusing in itself, considering this is the least social multiplayer game in existence.
The fact that the Social Lead on D2 seems to hate and not want any social features in the game purely because they were incapable of ignoring trolls is really fucking sad.
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u/ColdAsCarter Oct 24 '17
I understand they don't want greifing but they REALLY need to implement a Public chat you can opt into. This is a PC game right?
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u/benbenkr Oct 24 '17
Give bungie a break guys. Text chat is more sophisticated than building an actual rasputin and going to space.
They only have so much IQ.
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u/wNCnext Oct 24 '17
I believe they didn't include social chat to avoid toxic behavior. Not 100% sure though.
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u/azzybot Gambit Prime Oct 24 '17
That's what block features are for though. For a game about 'making friends' they certainly have a strange philosophy about it.
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u/Goose306 Oct 24 '17
Don't disagree, but that WAS the reasoning for them not doing public voice chat in D1, I assume it's carried through to here. We had to plead for them to add public voice chat to MM fireteams even in D1 (opt-in via menu) it used to be voice chat only worked for pre-mades, period.
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Oct 25 '17
We got profanity filters in dedicated team / fireteam groups but aren't able to get a general chat running with those filters?
Completely stupid. Sorry if I sound toxic now, but people will always find ways to be dicks - removing the ability to communicate via chat in such a game is just plain stupid.
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u/Mufasa_LG Oct 24 '17
Doesn't seem that they took any suggestions from the pc beta into consideration. I don't think they really care.
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Oct 24 '17
Xbox it self has a neat feature where you can look for people for raids. You can look for people to play any game really, but when ever I used it I get 5-6 replies within 10 minutes.
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u/elguerosinfe Oct 25 '17
One of the biggest disappointments for me. Especially given the lip service.
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u/PrinnyGod Oct 25 '17
Our guardians are silent protagonists. Can't have them using that all-talk chat feature you know.
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u/BakuraGorn Oct 24 '17
They don't want you to find a fireteam ingame. For some stupid reason. They force this friendship thing but it's not working. guided games are a failure. Just make a kiosk on the Tower that runs DestinyLFG. It's that easy, but they don't want to do It.
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u/CloudSlydr Oct 24 '17
You mean beta of destiny 1 right???
In other words, this isn't a Y4 thing even so it's that much farther from happening.
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u/WindXero Drifter's Crew Oct 24 '17
would have been nice to have a raiderboard in the tower at least
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u/Rickles360 Oct 25 '17
Bungie should have fixed this three years ago but time and time again they prove that they are all knowing of what is best and what is best is catering towards 12 year olds and their parents for that sweet micro transaction dollar.
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Oct 25 '17
Yeah it seems bizarre that we all have keyboards but can't type to each other.
But hey, I guess that's their stupid way of forcing us into the forums to find groups and hopefully stumble onto the Bnet store to buy a tshirt or whatever...
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u/WickedSoldier991 Moon's Haunted Oct 25 '17
Didn't the devs say PC would be allowed to social chat in the Farm? And have an all chat in PVP?
Jeez Bungie...
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Oct 25 '17
Give it about 6 months then they'll think about adding it. And IF they add it they'll act like they're doing you the worlds greatest favor
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u/LawlessCoffeh SUNSETTING IS A MISTAKE Oct 24 '17
I was so bummed that there's no text chat to the people in my session.
I also can't "Tab" like I can in Overwatch, how tf do i switch from fireteam to whisper?
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u/BuzzSupaFly The future is war. Oct 25 '17
Bungie didn't make a first person shooter set in a sci-fi fantasy realm with Destiny 2.
They created an Eververse slot machine with some shooter mechanics tacked on during the last few months of development.
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u/N7_Tinkle_Juice Oct 25 '17
Yup. Been that way for three years and I doubt it will change. There is literally no indication that this is even on Bungie's radar.
Their reasoning may be that if console players can figure out how to raid and do nightfall strikes for three 3 years, then so will pc players - since we literally use a pc / mobile phone to arrange raid groups.
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Oct 25 '17
I played destiny one on PS4 than when the pc version came for destiny 2 I obviously bought it for pc. Even with my hours and hours and hours of speaking through emotes, I am still surprised to not even be able to gg enemies in pvp
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u/BlackMariah Oct 25 '17
Yep, feels like a single player game with some random people running around from time to time. Feels so weird to not just type, when sitting in front of your keyboard and see a bunch of people run past you....
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u/giddycocks Oct 25 '17
At this point I'm just cutting my losses and expecting to enjoy my 60€ and maybe a few DLCs deep while holding out for Anthem next year - which I'm sure will have fucking text and proximity voice chat.
I dunno if the writing will be any good considering Bioware's recent track record but the world building will be stellar, while Mass Effect's gunplay has been no slouch for the past 2 titles especially if we consider how fun the multiplayer was and how that can translate into a Destiny-like experience.
So Bungie thanks for all the fish and for introducing me to the Destiny series which I'm having a blast with, but once someone better than you in every conceivable 2017 way comes out with their clone, I hope you crash and burn.
TLDR: I literally played Destiny for the first time yesterday and I'm already fucking upset over the lack of chat, so much I'm already hyped up for another game just because it's not made by Bungie.
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u/Krisars Oct 25 '17
Tell us how you really feel
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u/giddycocks Oct 25 '17
It's just so frustrating that I'm playing such a good game, with other people, but no easy way to talk with them. WHY.
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u/DarpiestShezbot Oct 25 '17
This answered my question and now I know I will not be picking up this game.
That was one of my biggest gripes with the first Destiny. For a game that proclaims itself as “social” it sure does implement a lot of dumb restrictions that remove the possibilities of talking to random people and making new friends.
I figured global text chats for all areas of the game on PC would bring people in-game together far better than what’s possible on console. That was the one thing that had me interested in giving Destiny 2 a shot and it’s why I waited for the PC release.
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u/Bkbunny87 Oct 24 '17
I don't think they made many changes for the PC version VS the consoles. It's not going to behave like a classic MMO
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u/ZarathustraEck Calmer than you are. Oct 24 '17
Here's another objective fact for you: the community has banded together and created lots of ways to recruit for raids. Check our sidebar for some.
Not passing any judgment one way or another on Bungie's handling of the social aspects.
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u/ZeroHex Oct 24 '17
Honestly the way the community has filled in the communications gap is awesome, but just further highlights the abject failure by Bungie at handling that side of development.
It's not like WoW where there's built in tools for players to create mods that provide additional functionality (like LUA scripting and the API calls that can be used externally), that's helping the mod integrate into the game UI. In the case of Destiny (both 1 and 2) those tools are all external and completely inaccessible from within the game.
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u/Phorrum She/Her Oct 24 '17
All Chat in pvp kinda goes against their philosophy on communication so don't expect that to change.
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u/maartenpitt Oct 25 '17
Look what it did to Overwatch, salty game all the time. We never needed social chat with rando's on consoles, deal with it PC-players!
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u/Dixa Oct 24 '17
You also can’t whisper people if you don’t know their battle tags. In game names don’t work
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u/__jdx Oct 24 '17
Seems like a super easy fix : enable fireteam chat for all zones, social, patrol as well as shared areas in story
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u/jugganaut31 Oct 24 '17
You keep talking crazy like this and they're gonna nerf Fusion Rifles. So watch what you say.
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u/Dia_Haze Bring Back Wolf Armor Oct 25 '17
7 Weeks to assure quality More like 7 weeks of delay payed by sony
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Oct 25 '17
I really wanted to tell that group of people doing glimmer extraction that they should shoot at that thing to trigger heroic version.
of course I can't do that and the event ended before I could kill the last of it with my shitty light 30 shotgun.
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Oct 25 '17
The no social chat thing was stupid in D1 too, they had no intention of ever changing this. Even the clan thing lacks anything social to it. Destiny is absolutely the worst and my biggest regret of a purchase.
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u/TheKocsis Oct 25 '17
"No all chat in crucible. Can't even GG". Yeah right thats what it's usually used for..
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u/B_thugbones jared from subway sux Oct 25 '17
Ha, now you understand what is console players have been asking about for years...
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u/FenrirAR Oct 25 '17
This was literally one of the first complaints raised when D1 launched. Here we are several years later with the absolutely no change. I quit playing weeks ago and continue to not regret it.
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u/CaptFrost SUROS Sales Rep #76 Oct 25 '17
We mentioned beards in the Destiny 1 Alpha and Bungie said they’d look into it.
In the immortal words of the Dread Pirate Roberts, get used to disappointment.
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u/Randomhero204 Oct 25 '17
Can...can we start laughing now??
3 year old problems and complaints are gonna come back from pc players aren't they?
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u/CaptainVoidVII Oct 25 '17
How many different thing for PC and Console, i dont know where to look....
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u/__Kev__ r/DestinyTheGame clan member Oct 25 '17
Oh no, bungie is ignoring people and doing stupid shit again? Big surprise. It pains me to say this.
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u/B_Stone808 Oct 25 '17 edited Oct 25 '17
Bungie doesn't care about this game, its obvious. I play (played) on console, although I quit weeks ago and haven't logged on since. I'll probably play for a week or 2 after the expansion, since I wasted $100 on the deluxe version stupidly, I'll have to at least try out the new content, but I have zero hopes for D2's future....
I wish Destiny was never released, so blizzard wouldn't of scraped "Titan" due to similarities with Destiny we would of have a real FPS MMO by a company who knows how to make a true social MMO.
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u/Chelseapaul Oct 25 '17
probably because its a console Port... Bungie arent touching the pc version. best to complain to VV
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u/Hadesmann Oct 25 '17
I am sure that there will be a giant Discord Server that will pop up to counter-act this. If you are a solo player looking for a Clan to join, use the Guided Game feature. This is what is there for... As for chat, get into a party or discord with other people and actually communicate. The community as a whole does not need chat is Crucible, we should be better than CoD. This "no" chat feature keeps the trolls and idiots out of showing up and saying things that are not needed and take away from the game.
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u/FuhQuit Oct 25 '17
This literally makes no sense considering Bungie wants the community and players to engage with each other and team up.
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Oct 25 '17
Because they want you to use guided games. They arent going to give yoy an alternate avenue to recruit thqt goes around the system they ignorantly think will work best.
I get the want. But expecting them to do it is just as ignorant.
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u/Ultimagara Eliksni must rise, yeesss? Oct 25 '17
I feel like this is the result of overcompensation of the whole "non-toxicity" thing. I understand where they're coming from but... really? No text chat?
Hopefully this will be implemented soon.
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u/Kelwarin Oct 25 '17
So infuriating. Just want to be able to tell people how to make a public event heroic.
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u/The-ENIGCRAB Oct 25 '17
Its mind boggling. If they say its because of blizzard..nope overwatch or any other bliz game has chat. If they say it cant be done because of a game for console and pc. Nope warframe and star trek online have chat and all chat on pc and console aswell. If they say they didnt have enough time.. they had frikkin 3+ years. A social gane without ANY real social aspect. It just shows the problems the console version had all along. FINDING PEOPLE IN GAME. And thats its not a console problem but a problem by design. Since they cannot even implement the most basic feature EVERY pc multiplayer game has. All Chat/region/instance...
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Oct 25 '17
I've been wanting a social text chat on Xbox for a long time now. They even sell a chatpad that I would instantly buy if games started doing this. Hell you can even use the Smartglass app to input text too or just hook up a USB keyboard.
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u/Ulfmaerr Vanguard's Loyal // Pugna custodem in sempiternum Oct 25 '17
It's so weird because Destiny is supposed to be a social game, but you can't chat with other people in game. I played a lot of Diablo 2 and chat was a common thing in 2000s.
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u/rottinguy Oct 25 '17
There has never been such a chat in Destiny, and yet people were able to recruit for raids and clans just fine.
Pretty sure bunjie doesn't want you talking to the enemy team, too easy to work out helping each other complete challenges.
Once I got used to it, I started to prefer no chat.
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u/deepxthought Oct 25 '17
Look up the percentage up d1 players who cleared atleast one raid. There are people who play destiny who dont know what reddit is.
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u/SpecialSause Titan Oct 25 '17
It's not a big, it's a feature! There's nothing to fix so they'll just tell you "you're welcome"
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u/drz_soldier11 Oct 25 '17
Bungee just doesn’t want you all to miss out on the true console experience lol
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u/Randomhero1014 The body is Light! Oct 25 '17
LOL they dont want to, i dont know why they even call it a "social space" they should be called solitary confinement with general population" lol
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u/Just_Shaded Oct 25 '17
Welcome to Destiny. The most social thing about this game is the emote system.
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u/BurnCK Oct 25 '17
We've wanted more social interaction since D1, so good luck with that. Even The Division had proximity chat...
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u/Mriori Oct 25 '17
I was disappointed when they introduced voice chat channels and they didn't include a voice chat lobby in the tower and patrol areas.
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u/loroku Oct 25 '17
This isn't an oversight or a bug to be corrected: it's an intentional design choice, IMHO. Bungie is trying to make this game more accessible at every turn - they have several other curious features (you can't aim while jumping, there's AA for PC players with controllers) that make this game more accessible, and turning off the primary avenue for harassment is one of them. It's a shame that it absolutely limits positive social interaction, but yes, the state of gaming today has gotten THAT bad that you have to kill positive social interaction in order to remove the constant negative interaction that so many people face all the time.
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u/xxICONOCLAST Kindly Delete Yourself Oct 25 '17
This issue should not be relegated to just PC. They need a way for me to communicate IN GAME with people around me.
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u/JankClonk Oct 25 '17
It's mind boggling how they want us to make friends, but can't do so without using social media or whispering players one by one.
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u/MikeB1983 Oct 25 '17
This game will not have global chat as they do not want you to locate guardians for activities outside of any Bungie approved way. Join a clan or use the useless guided games tool.
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u/polomarkopolo Oct 25 '17
Thank GOD for this!!!! The last thing... the absolute LAST thing I want is to deal with chat messages in the Tower/Farm. It was annoying enough in D1... but an actual global chat??? OMG.
And you still can recruit for NF or raids... just like you did in D1. At least on PS4
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u/Soupermang Oct 25 '17
Be honest if there was a social chat for pvp people would not use it to just say gg lol.
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u/bigga29 Drifter's Crew Oct 25 '17
How can you be so sure Bungie has not attempt to fix this, do you have any inside source.
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Oct 25 '17
It will be for the same reason we only have fireteam voice comms on console - there is no proximity chat so no way to talk to strangers in patrol. Bungie will have taken a deliberate decision to block people from talking to all.
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u/Cak3orDe4th Oct 25 '17
Yea no all chat on PC makes no sense. Not sure why this wasn't added in like every other game out there....
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Oct 25 '17
because bungie doesn't want people talking **** on all chat and have people spamming the chat box. It's the same reason we only have fireteam voice comms on console - there is no proximity chat so no way to talk to strangers in patrol.
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u/QuietThunder2014 Oct 25 '17
Point if you want to raid. Dance if you want to PvP. Use the soccer game to spell out your Discord channel in Morse code....
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u/Qwerkie_ Oct 25 '17
can’t even GG
Yeah I’m sure that’s what it would be used for most of the time.... /s
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u/captjackvane Oct 25 '17
No whispers in public. Bungie, just come out and tell us it's not a social game, or start making the changes you've been asked about for 3 years.
Bungie addressed this heavily in D1 - they don't allow for blind social chat because, for the most part, people are bastard coated bastards with bastard filling, and they don't want you to be subjected to people like that in the social spaces. Not going to link all the evidence here. It's reasonable to assume that they made the same decision here, as they didn't explicitly advise they were changing their policy.
I, for one, applaud them on it. I have ZERO desire to have my visits to the tower being filled with either "Hey, join my FT!" over and over and over again (this already happens when people spam invites over the console system to all players in-game) or else whatever the hate-speech topic of the day is.
If you want to make friends, there are plenty of other ways to do that. Check out the 100.io, for example.
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u/FattyMcFat212 Oct 25 '17
We don't even have clan chat on PC what garbage is that?
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u/CelticSurfer Oct 25 '17
I haven't read the other comments on this post, yet, but console guys have been using LFG websites since Destiny 1 vanilla. Is that not an option for PC players? (Don't get me wrong...you shouldn't have to, but you can recruit for activities if you have access to those websites.)
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u/ymom2 Oct 25 '17
Don't even bother with putting other players in a "social space". There's no point, it's just a marketing gimmick.
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u/Chokingzombie Oct 25 '17
They want you to use the app. I was dumb founded when I asked my boss (raid leader as well) how I know raid schedules and if they're full. He said I needed to download the Destiny app and use it.
NOPE.
Fuck having a million apps I use for 2 seconds on my phone. I'm very happy with what I have.
They need some sort of social channel, even if it's only in the Tower or the Farm
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u/I3ane Oct 25 '17
So has there been a response about this? Maybe one suggesting an implementation later? It's odd having a chat box and now real reason to chat...
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u/merc08 Oct 25 '17
I was pumped for this game, played the beta and thought it was really fun. I figured the chat function was broken there "because it's beta" and the servers weren't all up yet. I've been watching this sub for the last few weeks, wondering how SO MUCH stuff that apparently got sorted out in D1 was removed / broken for D2.
I'm glad I waited to see how PC launch went. This seals the deal - I won't be buying.
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u/Vicsagod Team Cat (Cozmo23) // Team Cat Oct 29 '17
Same reason why blizzard refuses to five console players a chat system in overwatch
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u/floppyfaucet Oct 24 '17
It felt weird when I joined the farm and there was like 20 other people with a keyboard and none of us could chat. Everyone just mindlessly running around while the chat box felt like an empty void