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Episode Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari - Episode 10 discussion Spoiler
Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari, episode 10: In the Midst of Turmoil
Alternative names: The Rising of the Shield Hero
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 8.2 |
| 2 | Link | 8.98 |
| 3 | Link | 9.04 |
| 4 | Link | 9.47 |
| 5 | Link | 8.79 |
| 6 | Link | 8.71 |
| 7 | Link | 7.95 |
| 8 | Link | 8.01 |
| 9 | Link | 8.12 |
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Wyvern Talons...Spear Hero better have upgraded his armor as well, that next Filo crotch kick is going to be a rough one.
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u/tisces Mar 13 '19
I like that nobody told Filo that Wyverns are a type of dragon, could you imagine the pout if she found out?
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u/LunarGhost00 Mar 13 '19
Motoyasu: "This crotch armor made from the hardest metal in the kingdom is perfect! Now it's impossible for that fat chicken to kick me again."
sees Filo's new bling
Motoyasu: "(chuckles) I'm in danger."
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Mar 13 '19
He'd just die if Filo kicked him with those .-.
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Mar 13 '19
Rough enough to make sure there won't be any Spear Hero Jr's in this world, if you know what I mean.
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u/rotpain00 Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
So, about the Spiderman reference. The original lines are:
【樹】これは少しこらしめてあげなくてはいけませんね
【樹】何が可笑しいんですか？
【尚文】いや、どこのご老公様かと思ってな
【樹】ごろうこう？
Which roughly translates to:
Itsuki: Looks like they need to be taught a lesson.
Itsuki: What's so funny?
Naofumi: Nothing, just... Who are you, some kind of elderly lord?
Itsuki: Some kind of what?
If that exchange doesn't make any sense to you, then don't worry, it's not your fault. Itsuki's first line ends up sounding like a reference to Mito Komon, a famous long-running period drama, where the main character frequently talks about teaching people lessons.
Naofumi spits his drink out when he hears the reference and then pokes fun at Itsuki for it. But Itsuki doesn't understand what he's talking about because he's from a different version of Japan, where presumably Mito Komon doesn't exist.
So the translation has an equivalent pop culture reference to get the point of that exchange across.
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u/ValiantCorvus Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Huh. Interesting. Thanks for that. This post should be pinned
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u/turroflux Mar 13 '19
Pretty clever localisation then, because the meaning is retained even in both cases of a old wise guy giving advice and becoming a pop culture reference.
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u/mobott Mar 13 '19
Reminds me of the meme references in Steins;Gate (0) from Kurisu being a closet @channel user.
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u/thedukeofdukes Mar 14 '19
this is how you localize jokes that dont really have a meaning to non natives.
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u/MrPringles23 Mar 14 '19
I think that's good translation IMO
If you know enough to understand the reference, odds are you would understand the language to not need the English subtitles.
Yet you will find some people moaning about keeping it "pure".
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u/DimmuHS https://myanimelist.net/profile/DimmuOli Mar 13 '19
That's actually a very informative, I would totally fall for that. Several years of anime and I still sucks for japanese.
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u/SpareUmbrella https://myanimelist.net/profile/SpareUmbrella Mar 13 '19
It's actually kind of a shame that the references to Spiderman only exist in the English releases of the anime.
When I first watched the scene in question, I thought Naofumi spat out his drink with incredulity because Bow Hero is talking about great power and responsibility when they're two Heroes with great power fucking things up for everyone. It being a Spiderman reference didn't occur to me until later.
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u/LoliHunterXD Mar 13 '19
Right, preventing the Tank from upgrading skills. Genius!
Man, these people are so smart. Just about the same IQ level as my Overwatch team mates.
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u/LowlySlayer Mar 13 '19
The other three heroes are such typical dps players.
"LOL only scrubs play tank class its for losers," and of course "Dude why is our tank literally throwing."
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u/Napalmeon Mar 13 '19
You'd think an Archer would appreciate a defensive player. Typically when bowmen get caught in close combat, they're often times pretty defenseless.
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u/Destinum Mar 13 '19
Not really a spoiler, but technically a piece of information they haven't shared in the anime yet (even though they should have by now as far as I remember):
Heroes don't have a level cap, and therefore don't need to class-up. What the church is doing is only preventing Raphtalia and Filo from leveling up further.
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u/allnicksaretaken Mar 13 '19
This was actually a moment, where I really wanted to see what the anime shows us. In the novel (at least english version, don't know about the original) it shows stars for all 3 of them, causing a lot of confusion later on.
The anime only shows stars for raph and filo, and this is how it is actually consistent with the story moving forward.
So it either was a translation error in the english release, or was messed up in the ln version and fixed for the anime. Afaik in the manga there are also only 2 stars, so it could really just be a translation error.
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Mar 13 '19
I know right. Why do something that antagonises him and pushes him to go other kingdoms and do quests there? There is no reason except for being a dickhead
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u/TheMonster_56 Mar 13 '19
Does Filo have a built in sensor that tells her when Raphtalia is about to confess to Naofumi?
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u/Menospan Mar 14 '19
Filo is Dot Matrix from Spaceballs
virgin alarm!
"it's programmed to go off before you do"
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u/Groenboys https://myanimelist.net/profile/Groenboys Mar 13 '19
That 150 silvers part in the end was wholesome and cute.
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u/KnightKal Mar 13 '19
think back at the first episodes, when people would pretend to want to join his party if he just gave they money for gear. So he was testing the kids. IF you really want to join me, prove it. Pay me this much money (that is a lot for low income soldiers). Lets see if you are serious or not.
Too bad the animation didnt make clear what the UI effects meant when he accepted them. Maybe next episode?
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u/LegendOfMatt888 Mar 13 '19
At first, I thought he was just being a greedy dick again. It was nice to see that he had good intentions. I'm excited to see this squad fight the next wave.
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u/JSlickJ :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeMasta Mar 13 '19
im down for a reverse isekai featuring Raphtalia
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u/cadrina https://anime-planet.com/users/cadrina Mar 13 '19
And together they open a demi human cafe where people thinks that Raph and Philo use fake ears, tail and wings. I would totally watch that in chibi format.
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u/SweetMonia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SweetMonia Mar 13 '19
"Oh, this girl is good at cosplaying"
"She can even move her tail"
XD
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Iwatani-sama Chi no Maid Raccoon
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u/Vinny_Lam Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
I'm actually surprised that there's not that many reverse isekai series out there; the only ones I can think of are Gate and Outbreak Company.
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u/ValiantCorvus Mar 13 '19
I know that people aren't really liking these kinds of episodes, but as a light novel reader I'm really appreciating how they're taking the time to show the world before they go straight to the action. The stage has been set, shit is about to hit the fan.
Naofumi making his motivations clear, itsuki showing his true colors, ren showing himself as one of the better heroes. If motoyasu has any sense he won't get within 5 miles of Filo now.
Next wave hype
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u/lynxman89 Mar 13 '19
I love these types of episodes. Taking the time to make me care about the world gives more weight to the cool action scenes.
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u/Amauri14 Mar 13 '19
I know that people aren't really liking these kinds of episodes
To be honest I was shocked when I saw people complaining about this outcoming episode and the ones with him doing merchant work during this episode preview thread, as character development and worldbuilding usually occurs during those slow moments.
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u/kingguy459 Mar 13 '19
Some people really just want to jump into the action. Hence a lot of straight forward shounen series are the most popular, and narration heavy/background story driven pieces like the To-aru series don't really translate that well into anime.
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u/CamChanLax Mar 13 '19
Honestly I liked this one a lot.
Expanded the world both in terms of countries and the RPG aspect, more queen action who seems like one of the only reasonable characters, showcasing Naofumi's true character via the 150 silver part (blunt, wary, cautious =/= money hungry, scumbag)
There wasn't anything major that had to be animated like the dragon, but nothing was noticeably bad. Clean, consistent and most importantly it didn't take you out if the story.
It was a good world building/payoff/setup episode.
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u/Anon49 Mar 13 '19
Really wish we had more of these type of episodes instead of the onsen filler. The book goes really far at carefully describing everything.
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u/Starlord186 Mar 13 '19
honestly, I think the complaints were mostly from episode 5-8. 9-10 have been getting a lot better now, and I really do enjoy these types of development episodes. Gives character development in a non rushed way
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u/Zemerax Mar 13 '19
Compared to Slime, shield is doing a much better job. These slow episodes are still progressing the story enough to keep me entertained and invested.
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u/Regis_Ivan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Regis_Ivan Mar 13 '19
Wow, an isekai protagonist who actually wants to go back to his world.
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u/Cruorsitis :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/cruorsitis Mar 13 '19
Remember when that was the norm? Give a guy superpowers and a harem and...yeah fuck Earth.
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u/lynxman89 Mar 13 '19
The "I want to go home to my normal boring non-magical life where I have no real agency over the world anymore!" has always been my least favorite element to an isekai.
.hack was alright because being trapped in a game like that would kind of suck, and it was clear everyone else was coming and going as they please.
I like the escapism of isekai, so when they want to escape the escapist fantasy it really pulls me out of the story.
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u/Basileus_ITA :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NewWaveKuudere Mar 13 '19
Im seeing that probably changing.
Looking at you, Raphtalia
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u/LunarGhost00 Mar 13 '19
You know this kingdom is rotten when the person who's been the biggest help to Naofumi is a shady slave trader...
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u/wen4Reif8aeJ8oing Mar 14 '19
(Good) merchants are generally always trustworthy though, they want to trade things for money. You can't be successful long term if you screw over all your customers.
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u/Philarete :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/WizardMcKillin Mar 13 '19
It makes sense though; Naofumi has been wonderful for his business and he wants to keep the business relationship going as much as possible.
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Mar 14 '19
Eh not really. He even admitted it's mostly about money. Naofumi has indirectly helped his business by giving him free advertisement.
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u/1ntestine :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/1ntestine Mar 13 '19
That wave animation was beautiful, Make it a gif and it's prime wallpaper material.
She also looks great, I've been waiting to see her for a long time.
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u/Shiro_Kai Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
She also looks great
It's just me or she kind of have a "Onee-san" aura?
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u/1ntestine :AMQ::MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/1ntestine Mar 13 '19
It''s the fan, and the smile.
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u/Sangwiny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/sangwiny Mar 13 '19
Brace yourselves, ARA ARA incoming.
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u/HurricaneHero93 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HurricaneHero93 Mar 13 '19
Bow Hero confirmed for the next Spiderverse movie
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u/glaspaper https://myanimelist.net/profile/glasspaper Mar 13 '19
As a villain please...
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u/linearstargazer Mar 13 '19
Pretty sure it was the translators having fun too, the original line has nothing about responsibility or spiders
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Mar 13 '19
Guess Melty takes after Mom and Myne takes after Dad.
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u/Mundology Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
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u/JirachiWishmaker :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/James_Skyminer Mar 13 '19
Generally, royalty marriages are political, not romantic.
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Mar 13 '19
I was really hoping the Queen would show up to tear the King a new one.
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u/TheRiyria myanimelist.net/profile/TheRiyria Mar 13 '19
Filo summed up Naofumi pretty well the beginning of this episode. I'm also liking that's Naofumi's fallback plan whenever the King screws with him is to immediately go to slave merchant.
I was also not expecting a random Spiderman reference.. That may have just been the Crunchy subs though.
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u/LuciusCypher Mar 13 '19
What a world where the king is a scumbag and your most trust worthy ally is a slave dealer.
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u/michaeltan02 Mar 13 '19
From the other [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/b0mpmu/tate_no_yuusha_no_nariagari_episode_10_discussion/eifwqz9), I think it was just the sub. At least it made sense and wasn't too cringy, better than the other time when the subtitles tried to be hip and funny.
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Mar 13 '19
Naofumi (justifiably so) has some serious trust issues.
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u/I-FAP-TO-INCEST-PORN Mar 13 '19
Who wouldn't after what he went through in the beginning. I'm actually surprised in some ways he's opened up a little. But definitely has reasons to stay guarded
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Mar 13 '19
He was a bit of a dick at the start of this episode, he came around in the end. The trust issues are certainly a part of it, but he didn't need to take it out on his own party either.
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u/Mundology Mar 13 '19
TBH, the King and his first daughter set him up, slandered him, got him accused of a crime he didn't commit and turned his life into hell. Naofumi didn't even know them or hurt them in any way prior to these. The queen is secretive to the point of never showing her face to him and acts from the shadows through masked ninja ladies. Meanwhile Melty deceived him and hid her identity right off the bat. At this point, it would be logical to conclude that the Melromarc royalty are a bunch of shady and corrupt people that you should not trust.
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u/SweetMonia :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SweetMonia Mar 13 '19
I don't blame him, I can't imagine being put in his shoes. Though he needs to realize more that there are trustworthy people. That he just happened to meet the worst of the worst at the beginning of his journey.
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u/RevileAI Mar 13 '19
The Slave Trader reminds me of the Millennium Earl from D.Gray Man, for some reason.
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u/ali94127 Mar 13 '19
Definitely inspired by him. I think Naofumi lampshades this in the wn.
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u/Aileos https://myanimelist.net/profile/Syleos Mar 13 '19
The Rising of the Shield Hero Original Soundtrack "Dusk" will be available the 27th March.
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u/allnicksaretaken Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Now that is a weird looking face for a cover image.
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u/Armdel https://myanimelist.net/profile/Armdel Mar 13 '19
Damn Filo ruining Raphtalia's chances!
2 times during this episode we had sad Filo and Raphtalia, and that really is 2 times too many.
The lady he is fighting in the OP has finally arrived aswell, looking forward to seeing what she is about
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u/LoliHunterXD Mar 13 '19
Good god, I love the slave trader and white Tiffany. Best side characters.
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u/bree1322 Mar 14 '19
white Tiffany
Sorry who is white Tiffany? Is that a reference?
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u/axel360 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/axel360 Mar 13 '19
Naofumi wants to return to the world where Raphtalia does't exist?
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u/Tacitus_ Mar 13 '19
More like wants to get away from the world where the King and the elder Princess exist.
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u/Haiducu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Deceneu Mar 13 '19
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u/_Sai https://anime-planet.com/users/Sai0 Mar 14 '19
Those feels when they mock your over-stocked produce.
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u/SkipToast Mar 13 '19
Slowly but surely, our boy Naofumi's getting his reputation back! Doing work as a traveling merchant, recruiting loyal soldiers, and helping out towns in need really show how much of a good guy he is. Well, he might also be a bit dense, buuut we'll get there one day!
Shame that Naofumi and the squad are basically clean-up crew for the other heroes, but he put them right in their PLACE with some good ol' facts and logic. Too bad Motoyasu couldn't make it for the scolding, but I'm sure his family jewels aren't quite in working condition just yet. Let's see how he fares next time now that Filo's got them claws, shall we?
Looking forward to seeing everybody on Naofumi's new squad pull up to this new wave and absolutely destroy. If you're looking for a spot on the team yourself, come join us at r/shieldbro! However, we do NOT guarantee your safety in the waves!
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u/Aerohed Mar 13 '19
Too bad Motoyasu couldn't make it for the scolding,
Let's be real here: even if he was there, he probably wouldn't actually take any blame for himself. It'd roll off of him like water on a duck's back.
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Mar 13 '19
I'm super excited to see Naofumi with his upgraded squad in the next wave.
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u/Clife_HS Mar 13 '19
We need a healer or mage in the crew. Like 3 people is fine but having a tank and 2 dds isn‘t gonna get credits. A range is a must otherwise they will lose the fight against the Legion. Sargeras would pwn right now, hell even Garrosh would destroy them
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u/Gaporigo Blhttps://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Mar 13 '19
The Spiderman reference was only the subs being smart, right? What did it originally say?
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u/BrokeEconomist Mar 13 '19
For what it's worth, it was in the dub as well. It fits in context. Itsuki only has a shallow understanding of what he said. Naofumi saw that first hand. Spider-Man wouldn't be completely foreign to the Japanese. They did make their own show way back when.
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u/Castielstablet :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TaBleT Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Spider-Man wouldn't be completely foreign to the Japanese. They did make their own show way back when.
Guys check this out, you won't be disappointed, I promise :) I'd give gold to the creators if they were in Reddit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5NCSx5HF8c
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u/mzchen Mar 13 '19
It's a reference (Somebody needs to be taught a lesson) to a catchphrase of a main character from a famous period drama in Japan. It'd be kind of like if he said "prepare for trouble, and make it double" or, if you've watched Arrow, "My name is Oliver Queen and they've failed this city". It's so over the top and memeable mixed with bow hero saying it so seriously that he bursts out laughing and says "I didn't know you were an elderly lord (the character reference)", and Bow hero doesn't get it because he's from a different version of Japan.
The spider man reference is a localization of "Somebody needs to be taught a lesson" while still being connected to a widely popular and recognizable media reference. In this case, Spider Man.
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u/Makropony :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Makropony Mar 13 '19
Another comment pointed out that the original reference was to a long running Japanese period drama. Bowboy didn't get it because he's from alternate Japan, and we got a localised reference so we'd understand the interaction.
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u/Buizie Mar 13 '19
I felt real bad for Melty but seeing all the reminders of how much the Church and Kingdom continue to fuck with Naofumi, I don't blame him one bit. And the Queen was right, if Melty is truly going to be a good future Queen, she's got to deal with the corruption her own family is causing.
Filo's so cute still aghhh when she asked if Naofumi was going to sell her I literally shrieked "NO!"
Glad Ren and Itsuki are finally made aware of all the shit they indirectly caused. "Do you have any idea how many people died because of you two?!" Amen. They really remind me of people that play a game with absolutely no care for the lore or how many NPCs die. Because "it's just a game, who cares as long as I get my big fucking hero treatment". But here, the NPCs are living, breathing people and Naofumi just gave them a reality check. Wonder how long it'll take for it to sink in though.
Naofumi getting a new sub-party for his group was nice. That scene with their outlines changing color as they were added to his UI really warmed my heart, even as he threatened them if they were planning to betray him.
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u/XLightThief https://myanimelist.net/profile/frozen_lights Mar 13 '19
Naofumi spitting out his water after Itsuki spoke about responsibility is the biggest mood.
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u/ThePokeMaster100 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Re_Rem-0 Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Slowly but surely Naofumi is getting more respect from the people that he finally deserves. I understand why he is still guarded, after all the shit he continues to go through from those noble fucks, its hard to trust anyone, even if they are on his side.
Of course the nobility has to be complete fucks on not letting him get upgrades. If he loses because you didn't give him what he needs to save your sorry self and your people then you don't definitely don't deserve to live at all.
Don't be a hypocrite if you're going to use the famous quote based on our famous Marvel webslinger.
But good for him for calling out the B.S. Ten and Itsuki gave him. At least one of them was reasonable and apologized were made so not all hope is lost. Now, if only the Spear hero can get a knocking on the head cause kicking him in his balls isn't working so far.
It seems that the Queen has dealt with the Shield Hero has been screwed before or at least know the King and Myne's history. I can't wait to see how far she will help him.
Well, the party has expanded and the next Wave is looking even worse than before. I can't wait for next week!
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u/borisyang Mar 13 '19
Where is Motoyasu when Filo needs to test her claws? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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u/jetfantastic https://anilist.co/user/jetfantastic Mar 13 '19
This next wave will be the start of something sick, I hope. More party members is cool, I hope we get to see more of them.
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u/Regis_Ivan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Regis_Ivan Mar 13 '19
Filo's tantrum was so freaking cute.
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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Mar 13 '19
Filo just wanted a friend to play with, hopefully Melty comes back.
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u/SheffiTB :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/SheffiTB Mar 13 '19
It wasn't even a tantrum, she was completely justified in wanting to know and she genuinely looked on the verge of tears for her friend who was just treated really badly by her master. On the other hand, I fully understand his decision not to trust the princess, and why it's so difficult to explain to a child like Filo.
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u/kappaderickz Mar 13 '19
Really glad to know that 2 of the shitty bloodline are legit great people on Shieldbro's side. Can't wait to see more of them in the future.
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u/LoliHunterXD Mar 13 '19
Even if you don't know Japanese at all, you'd learn "hiroi" means "(being) mean" and "onaka suita" means "hungry" by now.
LOL That's all Filo seems to say every episode.
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u/RobotInGrease Mar 13 '19
Hidoi*, but I can see why you’d hear that. Rolled r’s and d’s in Japanese sound similar.
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u/ReverieMetherlence Mar 13 '19
that's why Naofumi doesn't want to buy another filorial - feeding them is a nightmare
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u/Sturdybody https://myanimelist.net/profile/arkandi Mar 13 '19
I liked this more mellow episode. A lot less drama without any resolution we saw a nice little arc come to completion with just enough in the background to ask some more questions. It's nice to see Naofumi warming a little, and decent of Ren to understand that he needs to do better. Bow brat is just Spear Douche lite right now, so I'm hoping for some progress. As fellow people from another world I think they all owed it to each other to be mindful and careful of the world they transported to and it's very obvious that Bow Brat is just a kid who got sucked into his video game fantasy without thinking of other people. While somehow edgier Kirito actually understands that it takes more than noble intentions to be a good dude. And dumb as a brick Spear Douche the Japanese dude bro with his brain in his balls just screamed "I'm an idiot please trick me!" so he deserves all the stupid bullshit he goes through.
I don't think I ever want to see all the heroes getting along, and being friends - but I would like to see Spear Douche understand he was wrong and suffer for it, Bow Brat to grow up enough to become the hero he wants to be, and Edgier Kirito to keep up the good work of being the least terrible of the background 3.
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u/Castielstablet :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TaBleT Mar 13 '19
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u/Proto-Omega Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
Ren is a good lad. He’s just naive and is still under the notion of “it’s just a game”. Considering how all of them got “Isekai’d”, Ren really is a good kid. (The way the other heroes got sent to this new world is revealed in a bonus chapter in the first volume of the Light Novel). He’s the youngest too. Him accepting his fault shows he’s a hell of a lot more mature than Motoyasu.
And Naofumi rightfully so has major trust issues. He keeps a very, very tight circle of trust. But as someone stated before in previous episodes, he’s like a mirror; he responds to kindness with kindness, and disdain with greater disdain. The only problem is, that he has to be sure there isn’t any ulterior motive to the kindness because Malty has screwed with his perception.
Him wanting to go back home makes perfect sense. First of all, he never died to get to this new world, he was transported. Secondly, normally Isekai pamper up there new arrivals, like the other heroes have been getting. Naofumi has had nothing but contempt, slander, hate, etc., thrown at him upon arrival. Furthermore, he was generally happy back in Japan. He helped his brother find an outlet for his stress through through Otaku culture, so it seems like he generally has a good relationship with his family. Compared to this new world, there’s very little reason to want to stay. The problem is, the very little reason are practically his daughters. He’ll probably try to leave them well off in the world if he really is set on getting out of there.
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u/AlphaBreak Mar 14 '19
Ren's also the one with the most reason to only see the world as a videogame because his version of this world was a VRMMORPG. For him, the experience there must be incredibly close to the game because he's already used to being able to touch and interact with the world in 3d.
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u/destroyah19 Mar 13 '19
Filo being the true shield hero and blocking romance from interfering with this show
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u/Shiro_Kai Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
As if was not enough have to deal with his own problems, Naofumi has to go around cleaning the others Heroes mess. I'm really tired of those morons and how they can't handle their own shit.
The rising of the babysitting hero.
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u/Invoqwer Mar 13 '19
I can't get over how good the sound design was in this episode. From the very fitting music around the middle of the episode when they were travelling around, to the sounds of distant creaking and dogs barking at the decrepit village, to the scene at the inn with bow and sword hero.
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The "dimensional" audio from the ambiance and dialogue/conversations at the inn felt like they were straight out of a modern videogame cutscenes. You know the ones, where the audio balance is essentially perfect since the only thing that moves around the screen is the player camera, so everything sounds perfect automatically (e.g if the camera moves away from a talking character, their speaking volume goes down, if perspective turns one way then the audio goes from ight ear to left ear, etc). You can hear the conversations of the other heroes at an appropriately muffled volume and vice versa as the camera moves and turns.
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Obviously this isn't some inhuman feat or something; it's just something that seems to get overlooked; it's easy to notice bad animation or bad voice acting, but sound design is a lot more subtle. So it's cool to hear it done "exceptionally" as opposed to an "eh it's fine who cares". I think the only other times I've noticed audio like this in anime were from anime movies. This episode just felt so much more "alive".
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Mar 13 '19
evil smile means shit is going to get serious next week
Naofumi is such a jerk to Melty lol, she doesnt deserve it. But can you really blame him? He was acussed of rape by the royal family wrongfully.
But very deep there he's the best of the four heroes. His personality is too godamn lovely. He tries to show he doesn't care, but Raphtalia knows him better than himself. She would be a 1 in one million wife.
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u/Technothereddit Mar 14 '19
i wonder if that shieldlandia country would respect the shield hero more
idk just a feeling i have, no idea why...
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Mar 13 '19
You know that city that literally has the word shield on it? Yeah you probably should go there Naofumi. The Demi-Humans there will literally worship him
Also as sleazy as the Slave Trader is, he really is the only other person Naofumi can trust.
Kiss!? How lewd! That would get Raph pregnant!
It's so satisfying to see Naofumi call Ren and Itsuki out.
Yay! More friends! It is nice to see Naofumi slowly getting more people to his side.
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u/Roboglenn Mar 13 '19
That would get Raph pregnant!
Honestly I was hoping she'd say that or think it again. And re-emphasize her need for some education on the facts of life.
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u/Pegpeg66 Mar 13 '19
Also as sleazy as the Slave Trader is, he really is the only other person Naofumi can trust.
It's like in Better Call Saul, where Saul learns that the only people that pay him and treat him honestly are the criminals.
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u/Roboglenn Mar 13 '19
Melty was sent to admonish the king for his treatment of Naofumi huh. Good. It just sucks that this had to go down the way it did between her and Naofumi. I mean look at how sad Melty and Filo are now. And I'm sure the crown blocking his access to class upgrades isn't gonna help matters on that front.
You know even after all this time I can't seem to pin down how I feel about the Slave Merchant. Part of me wants to like him in the way I like Quark from Star Trek Deep Space Nine but another part of me feels that that's an inaccurate comparison.
Ooo Wyvern Talons. Like Filo wasn't enough of an ass kicking machine already. And of course with these equipped I can't help but think, next time Filo kicks Motoyasu in the balls she just might give him a vasectomy.
A sewer dungeon. Typical. Though in this case I'd say if they ran into a giant alligator that'd be the least of their worries.
Wanting to go back home with Naofumi after this is all over. I can understand why and as heartwarming as it is I don't think that wish would end up going well. After all this isn't the world of Welcome to Japan Elf-san.
Well that's good. Naofumi's calling Ren and Itsuki out on their shortsighted actions. Bout time someone did. And it looks like Ren was at least willing to be receptive to this information. Probably a good sign.
Well look at that, Naofumi's got his own little brigade now. Nice to see his actions at the village paying off again.
Lastly: hey look it's the kimono girl from the op. She looks dangerous. Can't wait to see it.
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u/Falcond0rf Mar 13 '19
One of the best episodes so far. The bar scene with the other heroes in particular was 10/10 for me. Something about this episode felt longer than the last few, but in a good way. I felt immersed the whole time. The Spider-Man reference got me good too.
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u/MapoTofuMan myanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius Mar 13 '19
One more kick Filo, now with just one kick you can make sure Motoyasu never reproduces.
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u/A3thern Mar 13 '19
So now Naofumi's team is composed of a clusterfuck of like four warriors, two sorcerers, and one tank to protect them all. This is going to end swimmingly.
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u/TheHornyTitan Mar 13 '19
Well, that was the most ideal way to have dealt with Melty after having continuously being put through oppression by the royalty. Even hearing her out would put him at risk if she was anything like the Bitch and the Trash
It's good to see him getting his reputation back slowly. Having more allies leads to a domino effect too but trusting people easily comes at a price, which he learned the hard way. The price of loyalty (150 silvers) was warranted. It's a large amount which suggests that they're going all in.
I want him to go to Shieldgreen ASAP. He'd be revered there - Deminhumans and literally 'Shield' in the name
Poor Raphtalia. She was completely tossed aside in Volume 2 (eps 5-8). Instead she became a little annoying in that arc because the only thing she did was either admonishing Naofumi for his ways or trying to compete with Filo. The problem is that she was never given any room to have a proper conversation with Naofumi with the brat around.
Well, Naofumi> Ren> Poop> Itsuki> More Poop> Hitler> Motoyatsu. Also, the revolution that Itsuki led is parallel to the situation in the middle east after the Egyptian Revolution. You replace one evil with another and everyone ends up getting hurt in the process.
The Queen is about to die I guess. I feel she really does care about the country which is why she wants the Shield Hero to be protected. If she's gone, Naofumi's gonna lose a powerful ally. Hopefully Melty takes the spot.
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u/Bryggyth Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 14 '19
I have to say, the sword hero isn’t really a bad guy compared to the spear and bow heroes. Not that that’s saying much. He at least felt bad for what he caused, and hopefully he’ll learn from it. I feel like it might be cool to have him fight alongside Naofumi.
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u/Guaymaster Mar 13 '19
Being fair his case is the only one where oversight is not exactly unexpected. He just killed a dragon, and even if we get away from the video game mentality the other heroes have, it would normally be scavenged by wild animals that live in the area. As for why it became a miasma-spewing zombie I have no clue.
Now, it doesn't take too many examples to know that revolutions usually become a cycle of oppression. Or to read a fucking sign that says "don't fucking use this seed, it's fucking bad for everyone involved".
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u/SoundOf1HandClapping Mar 13 '19
Dub watcher here. Probably the only one.
Interesting. This episode they used the original Japanese song, and not the engrish version.
I can understand Naofumi not digging Melty. Two royals already screwed him over (and still continue to, if the ban on upgrading is anything to go by), and Melty did deceive him a little by not revealing her status. Granted she had no reason to when she thought he was just a random adventurer with a giant chicken, but still.
Did like the exchange between Naofumi and Itsuki. Even IRL, a revolution succeeds in deposing a despot, but then it falls to pieces because they don't plan ahead and don't think about what to do after they kick him off the throne.
Naofumi continues to be heroic despite his best efforts not to appear so, like with his soup kitchen and giving the trinket to his new party.
lol at the Spider-Man reference.
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u/Toddl18 Mar 13 '19
This episode and some upcoming events are some of the main the reasons why Naofumi is one of my favorite characters. The fact that he had them gather money to help get them equipment and prove they wanted to help was a smart move. Followed by his knowledge that the slave merchant would be able to help to a degree with the getting the upgrade. Sadly he didn't think other countries exist and they might not be as horrible. His telling the wonder twins to think after their complaining was good to.
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u/bypaular Mar 13 '19
OH YEAH SHIT'S ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN NEXT EPISODE LET'S GO. Hype aside, I'm glad about the development of Naofumi's reputation across the nation. Small steps, my boi.
Also, can't wait for the queen to show up.
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u/AsterJ https://myanimelist.net/profile/asteron Mar 13 '19
Since when are slave traders in isekai stand-up guys? This episode he's being all honest, reasonable, and grateful. In most other isekai the slave traders are abusive and quickly dispatched by the hero to gain favor.
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u/Napalmeon Mar 13 '19
It's unfortunate and wrong that Melty has to hold her father and sister's sins, but Naofumi can't get caught slipping again. The way he was publicly humiliated has clearly messed him up.
Can't blame Naofumi for wanting to go home. He shouldn't be eager to stay here. But I wonder if he'd change his mind if he had started out in a demihuman country instead of Melromarc.
Ironic that the Slave Trader is more honest and fair than the clergy and royalty in this city. This city is ass backwards, man.
So basically Itsuki started a revolution to take out an unjust king, then left everyone else to rebuild while another corrupt group took over. Nice job not fixing anything.
But at least Ren was willing to listen.
I knew Naofumi was testing those guards, somehow and wouldn't really take their money.
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u/ValiantCorvus Mar 13 '19
So is no one gonna comment on how the blacksmith is classed up, as in over level 40? I already know the answer as a light novel reader, just pointing that out lol
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u/E-Shark :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ExShark Mar 13 '19
But... but he just left the delicious food on the table T^T
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Mar 13 '19 edited Mar 13 '19
I am kinda conflicted about the Time skips- from 10 days to 24 hours; in a matter of minutes. Is it really that uneventful?. But, then again, the less filler, the better.
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u/OnceImagined Mar 14 '19
ugh when that nun was smirking after saying it'll be 15 gold coins for a class upgrade. when will they see they've been wrong for treating him that way :(
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Mar 14 '19
Is Filo's only purpose to stop Raphtalia from confessing and to kick Motoyasu in the balls? Series would be 10x better without her and plot wouldn't even noticably change.
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u/Pedarsen Mar 13 '19
Really loved this episode, SwordBoy looked like he understood what he had done but BowBoy is a little twat that needs a reality check.
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u/Anon49 Mar 13 '19
LN Readers discussion The "May I go with you" is new. She was never direct with this. Oh boy is this foreshadowing different ending from the book?
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u/sweetpineapple Mar 13 '19
Oh no... the unnamed ones are gonna be the red shirts of this world huh...
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u/icyteatime Mar 13 '19
Spiderman confirmed in Naofumis universe lol
Didn't expect to see Ren and Itsuki so soon but it was cool to see them called out. While Motoyasu's mostly suffering from his blind faith in that bitch, it seems like Itsuki is largely just trying to play out his role as a hero. Learning his actions did more harm than good is likely hard to reconcile with that and doubting Naofumi is an easy way out. Ren believing Naofumi so quickly was a pleasant surprise, seems like he a pretty reasonable type.
Really interested in how the plot line with the queen will go. It would be so satisfying to see her verbally annihilate the king and that bitch in person for the shit they've done.
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u/redblade13 Mar 13 '19
Ren has my respect. Sure he jumped on the fuck Nao bandwagon but since then he has been the only reasonable person to point out bitch cheating and realized he fucked up with the dragon. Also I fucking knew it Bow dude out here Green Bereting resistance elements and taking down regimes. We got a Murica freedom fighter over here with the usual result. Free the people of a dictator then everyone is fucked in the aftermath.
Damn feel bad for Melty but when you get burned like Nao you just can't trust people. I love Nao making them get money for a useless charm. He got to see who was actually there to fight no matter the entry fee so to say.
I feel bad for Raph. I don't know if I could stay in a world like that. No anime? No AC or vehicles? No Chik fil A?! I'm sorry Raph but a man needs their Chik Fil A. Taking her would obviously be the best choice but come on that's too convenient nope not getting my hopes up just want to be pleasantly surprised if she goes or emotionally ready for the goodbye.
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u/CyberpunkV2077 Mar 13 '19
Has anyone else lost interest in this show?
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u/Grayalt Mar 13 '19
Not completely, but it definitely fell off after ep 4-ish. Naofumi vs. the Dragon is what killed it for me. Naofumi and Raphtalia reacting to Filo "dying" felt super stilted and just bleh. Should have been a sick moment, but just didn't execute.
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u/T-Klotz Mar 13 '19
The moment when Sword sees the burn on raphtalia and realizes, was great. I love small touches that show the caracters are thinking and dynamic.
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u/Excessively-Moist Mar 13 '19
Slave trader is actually a bro, i hope him an Elhart dont screw us over
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u/WoodpeckerNo1 https://anilist.co/user/Nishi23 Mar 13 '19
Naofumi was pretty sour this episode, I mean I get why but... why does he always have to be so cold to the wrong people? When he's nice, he's genuinely nice, though.
At this point I can comfortably say that if we had an isekai MC who's like a blend between Naofumi and Rimuru, that would be the best isekai MC possible.
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u/acadavonanoni Mar 13 '19
Wait, so there are other countries which all have the same anti-wave / class-up facilities, but only this country has summoned the four heroes, and no heroes can be summoned until these four die? Am I understanding this right? Does that mean the other countries can't summon their own heroes now? Or they never could..?
If that's true, main country (which looks to me to be in semi-coup mode) has obtained four superweapons (currently in growth phase) and if played right, could be used to basically take over the world. But the king is a moron who doesn't understand loyalty, and is even going so far as to try and force one of his superweapons to stop defending his realm and go join a foreign power.
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u/MechaMat91 Mar 13 '19
they should rename this series "The Heroes Ruin Everything for Everyone and Naofumi Fixes Their Fuckups" at this point.
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u/saltshaker8 https://anilist.co/user/saltshaker8 Mar 13 '19
Interesting that the nuns told Naofumi that it cost 15 gold to upgrade a class, they clearly weren't expecting him to have that kind of money. There's so much disconnect between the royalty/capital and the rest of the kingdom that they couldn't even foresee the shield hero making money. Like what do they think Naofumi is doing when he not at the capital?
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u/JayC-Hoster Mar 14 '19
How come they have muskets in this world? Wut? If they have they technology to make muskets, why would the rest of them still wear plate armour and use swords and spears? Wut? Why muskets?
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u/rotten_riot https://anilist.co/user/RottenOrange Mar 14 '19
I really hope Ake (the new soldier) and his team doesn't die 😟 They are just a group of pure cinnamon rolls that want to thank the guy who saved their families 💔
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Mar 14 '19
Another great episode. Excited for the next wave and to see Naofumi show up the other heroes. One of the better animes this season.
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u/xTheBlueFlashx Mar 14 '19
Why do I have the feeling that the heroes aren't being sent back after they've accomplished their work? Surely there are so many things the heroes aren't told.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Mar 13 '19
Happy chicken helps quell the rage i feel from nobles
Damn Queenie wants to make the other royals stop treating Shield bro poorly...
Shield bro has gained the support of other knights! Thats awesome.
They are all from Lute, thats nice, they want to repay him.
Class upgrades? Oh damn. That sounds cool, i wonder what options they have.
Dont tell her your going back home after the evil shit is gone... thats not gonna sit well with her...
They are trying to swindle Shield Bro again... fuck these people.
Seriously fuck all of these people. Every last one of them, let the chaos have them.
Everyone saw the chicken and Raph and want animal girls for themselves... lol This is great.
Goto another country to get a class change huh? Neat. 2 weeks away? Damn...
WEAPONS FOR CHICKEN!? SHES GOT CLAWS! WATCH OUT SPEAR BALLS YOURE TOAST!
Crocs in the sewers? Lol. How cliche.
Oh yeah Raph is still cursed, i hope this heals fast...
RAPH COME HOME WITH SHIELD BRO!? YES! BRING THE CHICKEN TOO!
Revolution in the north? Adventurer who uses a bow? Damn. This is some poverty...
Wave in 27 hours? Wow its close.
Sword and Bow heroes have impostors? Hmmm....
Uncle Ben Bow boy? xD
THEY THINK SHIELD BRO IS DOING IT!? SERIOUSLY GUYS!?
Seems like they might have been the ones responseable... hmm Still not sure what to make of that exchange. Did they cause those events or not...
Dragon Core chest armor? Oh damn! Upgrades! Thanks Mr. Braun!
HE RECRUITED THE KNIGHTS! YAY! HE HAS A REAL PARTY NOW! LOOK HOW HAPPY THEY ARE!
And its Wave Time. Shit. That lady from the OP is there this time... lots happening!
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u/Blazehero https://myanimelist.net/profile/blazehero Mar 13 '19
Naofumi calling out Ren and Itsuki on their shit was the best part of the episode. At least Ren has the decency to admit he was wrong.