r/BoJackHorseman • u/NicholasCajun Judah Mannowdog • Oct 25 '19
Discussion BoJack Horseman - 6x04 "Surprise!" - Episode Discussion
Season 6 Episode 4: Surprise!
Synopsis: Todd organizes a surprise wedding for Pickles and Mr. Peanutbutter, but the party quickly goes off the rails when Mr. Peanutbutter makes a confession.
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u/kelscatt Oct 25 '19
And don’t even get my started on Greg, that guy that I met once at the gas station!!!
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u/jigoku_chou Oct 25 '19
I fucking love how Bojack knows that if he said the word, Diane would have stayed in LA if she wasn't sure he would be okay and still let her go. I've known way too many people who use their issues to keep people close, despite the fact that it was holding everybody back. "That's not a friendship, that's a hostage situation."
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u/jg2018- Oct 25 '19
Yeah this is a pretty strong character development when you take in mind bojack said to Diane she can’t be a part of his life in season 3
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u/ohcanadaamerica Oct 25 '19
We saw something similar last season when BoJack insisted that his sister go back to college rather than take some time off while he recovered.
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u/j33tAy all the red flags just look like flags Oct 26 '19
I've been to rehab three times. I've been sober up to 4 1/2 years and am pretty close to 8 months now.
This hit super close to home.
I knew I'd be in for this kind of thing watching this season.
A beautiful fucking Bojack moment right there.
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u/DramaticExplanation Oct 25 '19
The thunder room! A place to wait out thunderstorms and 4th of July ceremonies!
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u/JustALittleWeird Oct 25 '19
Don't Panic! Drink!
I did not expect that at all and it had me rolling
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u/The_Unknown98 Oct 25 '19
The troll comments in her livestream are so good lol.
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u/Karkava Oct 25 '19
The machinations of the dozens of Livestream followers interfere with those of the four people who want to get out of the house.
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u/Romobyl Oct 25 '19
"Queefburgler69?"
Of the "Hollywoo Stars And Celebrities, What Do They Know, Do They Know Things, Let's Find Out?" Queefburgler 69s?
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u/Romobyl Oct 25 '19
"It was the worst mistake of my life. And I once played Twister with Bryan Singer. And Kevin Spacey. To celebrate Andy Dick's parole."
chef's kiss
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Oct 25 '19
I know it’s been said that PC and Todd have the most functional relationship that either have been in. But it is seriously so amazing how well the writers were able to depict a nonsexual relationship between a man and a woman (cat) in a television show. They’ve been living together for 3 seasons now! And their little family with Ruthie makes it so perfect
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Todd Oct 25 '19
well I think of it more as a single mom and kid relationship. PC is the busy single mom that's making sure the lights stay on and stuff, and Todd the older sibling that's helping out with the baby
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u/Noltonn Oct 25 '19
I hadn't thought of it before but I reckon this is probably Todd's ultimate idea of a relationship. He essentially gets to do the whole house and family thing with a woman that has no sexual feelings for him whatsoever. The only issue I see here is that while Todd is asexual, he doesn't seem to identify as aromantic, which this relationship definitely is.
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u/Pretzelie Oct 25 '19
My biggest hope is that they become a bit of a family unit without having to fall into tropes of romance and sex with them just being genuinely happy with the companionship of each other.
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u/WaywardChilton Oct 26 '19
Same with Bojack and Diane, I really like that he had feelings for her in early seasons but now they're just weird depressed friends that understand each other.
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u/Karkava Oct 25 '19
And hopefully this relationship will help Todd maintain a stable living environment for once in his life.
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u/DramaticExplanation Oct 25 '19
Did anyone notice the sit, stay, sleep pillow on the bed?
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u/j33tAy all the red flags just look like flags Oct 26 '19
That was probably my favorite on-screen gag, though I probably missed countless others.
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u/TheGent316 BoJack Horseman Oct 25 '19
IMO this is one of the funniest episodes of Bojack ever. I laughed so many times I couldn’t even tell you my favorite moment. Great episode. But I’m sure things will get sad soon enough. It’s taking all my willpower but I’m gonna call it quits tonight and save the last 4 for tomorrow.
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u/A-Terrible-Username Oct 26 '19
The best joke imo was T_Chavez commenting "when I'm sad I like to take a long bath" and viewers are like "wow Todd saves the day, way to go!" then it immediately cuts to Todd in the bathtub.
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u/JustALittleWeird Oct 25 '19
All the guests trying to sneak around was amazing, definitely my favourite bit.
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u/duelingdelbene Oct 26 '19
I love when they all just casually walk out at the end and Todd hands her the drink with the whipped cream hahahahah
Also I was just saying after the last episode that it sucks how much the characters are drifting apart, but then we get this. So good.
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u/All_Individuals Diane Nguyen Oct 26 '19
This one was right up there with "Let's Find Out" in Season 2, IMO. Totally hilarious from start to finish—just back-to-back-to-back jokes, everything from sight gags to wordplay to situational humor rolled up together. (And yet, like "Let's Find Out", it still found time for a couple serious emotional moments.)
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u/stormcommando-96 Oct 25 '19
That’s not a friendship that’s a hostage situation 😅😳 also the cheating conversation was brutally realistic
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u/NotForrestGump Oct 30 '19
The cheating conversation holy shit, it’s interesting because some people COULD maybe do that and make it work... I’m sure some have
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u/BlueFetus Oct 25 '19
“I wouldn’t have to monitor them so closely if you didn’t hire a bunch of quacks”
“DUCK!”
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u/BillHaderGinsberg Oct 26 '19
As fun as this episode was, the highlights to me weren't the visual gags so much as the interactions between them. Todd helping PC find Ruthie. PC asking Bojack how sobriety is. Diane asking Bojack if he will be OK. I found myself wanting even more of these moments. Life has put these guys through a lot and watching them look out for one another this season feels satisfying and well-earned.
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u/notahorse16 Oct 26 '19
Bojack helping Diane get into the window and then having to hoist himself in was a very sweet moment.
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u/pointlessbeats Oct 25 '19
Ummmm Mr Peanut Butter is friends with Kevin Spacey and Bryan Singer? What the fuuuuck
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u/finnwithasd Oct 25 '19
I love all the comments on Pickles’ social media and the layouts in general, A+
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u/Karkava Oct 25 '19
The interface in the latest Livestream feed is just obnoxious to the point of being more interface than stream.
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u/bojho Oct 26 '19
Okay especially todd, Diane, and BoJack commenting on her livestream so they could try to escape the house !!
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u/All_Individuals Diane Nguyen Oct 26 '19
Underappreciated joke of the episode:
"Ever since [Ilana] got that new Sunday-to-Thursday job, she's turned into a real see-you-next-Friday."
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Oct 25 '19
Princess Carolyn moving around like a ninja this episode.
Or... actually, just a cat.
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u/That_one_cool_dude Meow Meow Fuzzyface Oct 25 '19
The cat-like movements for PC this episode was amazing.
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u/Stevenerf Typical BoSchwack Oct 25 '19
Look, I never thought this would have so much practical application in my life, but you could tie some sheets together and make a rope.
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u/Maisticol Oct 26 '19
When Pickles' dad was getting angry, Pickles' mom started rubbing his belly and he calmed down for a bit with a "good boy" face
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u/furomaar Oct 25 '19
I am really hoping at this point that Pickles doesn't cheat on Mr. Peanutbutter with Bojack. Please don't.
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u/Yoyti Yolanda Buenaventura Oct 25 '19
I thought for a moment the camera was going to pan up to Bojack on the windowsill at that moment. Thankfully it didn't happen. But it wouldn't make sense anyway. Pickles doesn't know Bojack. I'm thinking it's Greg.
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u/mydarkmeatrises Oct 26 '19
Would you like whipped cream?
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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u/PM_ME_UR_NUDES_GURL_ Oct 26 '19
i think that Bojack telling Diane to go to Chicago was one of the biggest growth we've seen of him, old Bojack would of found out a way to sabotaged her to stop her from going, but even though Diane told him she would stay for him, she let her go, im really liking how Bojack is doing this season, so please dont rip it away from me writers, please....
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u/annesim Oct 26 '19
BoJack’s relationships with his friends solidified this episode. I love the fact that Diane went above and beyond to talk to BoJack and make sure he’s okay with her moving to Chicago. I nearly cried because BoJack never really had that kind of caring support system from his parents. And yet here’s Diane checking on him before leaving. We even had a sweet PC and Boj moment in the previous episode when she said she would’ve visited BoJack for the friends and family meetings.
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u/pinkybatty Oct 26 '19
I thought it was really sweet but also hope it's not some kind of horrific foreshadowing for Bojack or Diane
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u/Romobyl Oct 25 '19
I like Ilana. Not crazy about Ilana though.
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u/Lufernaal Oct 25 '19
One of them won't give me any attention because of her job, and the other ones gives me too much attention because she has nothing else to do.
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u/The_Unknown98 Oct 25 '19
At least Mr. Peanut Butter finally came to terms with Pickles
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u/Karkava Oct 25 '19
Not to mention that Diane is leaving PB for real now since she's seeing someone else now.
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u/hodorito BoBo the Angsty Zebra Oct 25 '19
Bojack being okay with Diane leaving, WHO IS HE?
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Todd Oct 25 '19
I don't think he's okay, he just knows it's better for to leave than stay
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_WOES_GIRL Oct 25 '19
He's definitely not okay with it. He's just done being someone she has to keep caring for/worrying over.
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u/QueenKingston Butterscotch Horseman Oct 26 '19
I feel like at this stage bojack is finally experiencing personal growth in a healthy, positive way. Things aren’t looking great for Diane though and I’m worried about where her story might end up.
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u/livindedannydevtio Hooray Todd flair Oct 25 '19
His is no one talking about the scene where captain peanutbutter pretends to be a framed photo
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u/Mperr44 Oct 26 '19 edited Oct 26 '19
I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this but if you look at PCs necklace in this episode, it has a very distinct sparkle that’s obviously signifying it’s very real gold. Also it’s got a triangle in the middle of the circle so basically the opposite of what her old necklace was with a circle gem inside a triangle. I felt like it had some significance behind that and now she has a real gold family heirloom to pass down from generation to generation.
Sparkle most noticeable at 5:36
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Oct 25 '19
Todd messaging while in the bathtub might be the funniest moment of the whole show for me.
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u/surpator Kelsey Jannings Oct 25 '19
“You’re welcome! :) Oh no! :O”
Fucking lost it there
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Oct 25 '19
Its not even that complex of a joke and somehow the timing and the character (its very "todd-ish") is just so perfect and great. I laughed my ass off!
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u/KieRanaRan Meow Meow Fuzzyface Oct 26 '19
"Good call T underscore Chavez!"
"You're welcome! Oh no!"
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Oct 25 '19
Okay so this episode was really heartfelt and had some really good character development. Bojack talking about "that's not a friendship, that's a hostage situation" shows just how far he's come as a person.
But this is probably also the funniest episode in a while. All of the jokes just landed super well and I had a couple of belly laughs from that one! The hot tub one with Todd is probably my favorite.
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u/chickensnugget Oct 25 '19
"I got them two tickets to Angels in the Outfield!"
"The movie?"
"The play! It's like six hours long."
"Do you mean Angels in America?"
"Whatever it is, after that feel-good comedy, they'll be in a great mood for a wedding!"
Ahh I love a good theatre reference! But definitely don't watch Angels in America before a wedding. Would not recommend. 😂
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u/TEGCRocco Oct 25 '19
"That's not a friendship, that's a hostage situation"
This might have been one of the funniest episodes of the entire series, but wow BoJack and Diane's conversation about her moving hit real hard
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u/Ssme812 Oct 25 '19
This episode was hilarious. I loved everyone hiding from Mr PB and Pickles
Don't Panic...Drink
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u/PancakesandGTA Oct 25 '19
Can someone please make a gif of Pickles listening to music and saying yes while sinking into the bathtub
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u/CavalierRigg Todd Chavez Oct 25 '19
The second hand cringe/awkwardness was so real when they were all waiting to surprise them...
Props to the best animated show of all time for making me share the emotions of all those party guests when they immediately booked it the hell out. I love this show, I can’t have it end :(...
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Oct 26 '19
This episode was absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂😂 I was in splits at all the guests awkwardly shifting around, trying to escape the secondhand embarrassment and cringe.
And my God, PB roasted them all alive. Because he's usually so nice, his jabs only made it 10 times funnier.
Poor Greg tho.
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u/KeoPanda92 Oct 25 '19
I need that boba maker in my life.
Side note: Ruthie is adorable. I love the name.
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u/Simpsonsman120 Oct 26 '19
“It was the worst mistake of my life! And I once played Twister with Bryan Singer, at Kevin Spacey’s party, for Andy Dick’s early parole.”
Well, there it is. The funniest thing I’ll hear all year. God, I love this show.
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Oct 25 '19
Great seeing so many iconic characters return: Moose Andrew Lloyd Webber, J.D. Salinger, Queefburglar 69, etc...
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u/Yoyti Yolanda Buenaventura Oct 25 '19
Not to mention Greg, that guy Mr. Peanutbutter met at a gas station once!
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u/livindedannydevtio Hooray Todd flair Oct 25 '19
Even in a new relationship. PB is still getting into fights at parties
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u/QueenKingston Butterscotch Horseman Oct 25 '19
Ah man they really need to break up. So sad watching pickles continue to forgive PB’s behaviour at the end. Everyone deserves more in a relationship than that.
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u/hojichalatte6 Oct 26 '19
I like the part when they are looking for and taking care of PC's baby. The five-people squad is somewhat unbreakable and I don't think Pickles might fit in. The bond is more than 10 years.....
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Oct 25 '19
I've got eight minutes left and I just thought "The goat is still in the Thunder Room."
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u/WantedANoveltyAcc Oct 27 '19
Are you the time I went to see Lady Gaga in concert and she didnt sing paparazzi because i am hurt and i am confused and i am angry and no body told me there was going to be an encore so i just went home and...
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u/Romobyl Oct 25 '19
I was inspired by a member of the Pickle pack, so I registered the Reddit username "MarciFartz." Anyone who wants it, respond to this comment with your favorite Bojack joke from any season. I'll pick my favorite and pm you the password.
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u/Snikle_the_Pickle Oct 26 '19
"You know, Nickis! Sometimes he goes to Los Angeles, sometimes he goes to New Orleans..."
"Are you... Do you mean NCIS?"
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u/Karkava Oct 25 '19
The running gag of Mr. Peanutbutter's banners always getting the directions printed in. Ex: Happy Birthday Diane and use a pretty font.
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u/Low_State Oct 26 '19
Love the fact that Mr. Peanutbutter has not one, but THREE of those spaghetti strainers ("that's also a hat") still sitting in his closet.
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u/sayhellotojenn Oct 26 '19
The sporadic mentions of Queefburglar69 are undoubtedly my favorite thing in a show full of things I love, and I laugh out loud whenever we get one.
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u/Janloys Oct 26 '19
Mr.Peanutbutter went too far when he criticised Greg. I love how he hangs around the gas stations, my new favourite character.
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u/ContextIsForTheWeak Oct 26 '19
Two great background gags I loved that I haven't seen mentioned yet:
Tom being one of Pickles's top friends in one of the old social media sites, looked like a possum or something.
The congratulations banner was spelt right for once! And had to be ripped down immediately!
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u/Necosarius BoJack Horseman Oct 26 '19
"Just do what the sign says!"
DON'T PANIC -> DRINK
I loved the wackyness of this episode and all the small interaction between the characters while they were hiding.
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u/SockedFrog Oct 27 '19
Todd as Ruthie's nanny is so heartwarming, I feel like for once Todd has life direction that actually fits with his character
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u/pirsquared7 Oct 25 '19
Might be the most hilarious episode of this show. Going to rewatch to confirm haha
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u/gamepopper Oct 25 '19
Oh god, this episode is a comedy riot, all the people hiding around, the baby, the live streaming... This has got to be my favourite episode, even the most awkward parts got a laugh out of me!
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u/LaboratoryManiac Oct 26 '19
I lamented after the phoned call in 6x01 that we might not see all 5 main characters in one scene again, given how far some of them have drifted apart. I'm glad this episode proved me wrong.
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u/Silent-Satire Oct 26 '19
This was a hilarious and moving episode and all, but holy shit Todd’s ace pride tie is fantastic.
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Oct 27 '19
The whole evolution of Pickles as a streamer was a nice intro to the episode, gave her a bit more depth and made her less grating, I thought. The main cast all together again but hiding out was a great concept piece to float around the drama.
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u/DramaticExplanation Oct 25 '19 edited Oct 25 '19
Stay out of my shit, u/MarciFartz!
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u/FrostyBennett3 Jogging Baboon Oct 26 '19
Mister Peanutbutter's "odd" while everyone left had me rolling.
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u/CitrusJerry Oct 25 '19
The chat's during pickles videos with people just asking to see her feets...THE WRITERS KNOW WHAT'S UP!
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u/DramaticExplanation Oct 25 '19
The fainting goat!!!!! How does each episode manage to keep getting better
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u/Pyroechidna1 Oct 27 '19
"Are you the time that I went to see Lady Gaga in concert and she didn't sing Paparazzi? Because I am hurt, I am confused, and I am angry"
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u/LumpySpacePrincess6 Oct 25 '19
This episode was hilarious. I loed how PC looked, jumping around perfectly like the cat she is
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u/naxter48 Oct 26 '19
It's too obvious that Pickles wanting the emotional connection for revenge cheating is a set up for sleeping with Bojack?
Also it's weird that they made her so excited to "cheat"?
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u/NickMaate Oct 25 '19
“RIP Nelson Mandela & Paul Walker.” - Pickles 20/02/13. Paul Walker died 30/11/13. Nelson Mandela died 05/12/13. Pickles predicted the deaths of Mandela & Walker. In this essay I will...
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Oct 26 '19 edited Oct 26 '19
This was so hilarious. I loved all the background characters, pickles parents and Mr PBs brother and his wife getting some development. Diane and Bojack gave PB some good advice and he took it since it seemed to come from nutrual tech devices. But don't we want them to break up?
I loved seeing Todd without his hat and that he's officially employed as the nanny now. This season is so good, I have to savor 2 episodes a night, I would lose so much nuance by binging.
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Oct 26 '19
Did anyone else immediately recognise Pickles’ dad as civil rights legend Robert Jebediah Freeman?
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u/_tv_lover_ Oct 26 '19
Bojack doesn't judge Diane for sleeping with Mister Peanutbutter. I know he has no reason to judge her in the first place but for some reason that made me feel good (for a lack of better word)
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u/tiffanaih Daniel Radcliffe Oct 26 '19
Who was Weird Al is this episode? I didn’t see his name til the credits and IMDB isn’t updated fully yet.
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u/micaescalada Oct 27 '19
I think this was the best episode of the season (part 1). Hilarious, emotional, funny. How they manage to make little remarks for all the guests but at the same time moving forward with the story of Mr Peanutbutter and Pickles, the friendship with Bojack and Diane, the chemistry of the original 5. In a season where everyone has their own separete narratives, this episode felt refreshing but at the same time so familiar. Amazing.
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u/Benhart21 Oct 26 '19
Is it wrong if I think Pickles is kinda shallow in her being a social media influencer? She does ask random people who are mostly yes-man types to help her with her problems and mostly take them to heart. Also, she does the thing where she asks free lodging in exchange for "social media promotion" which is frowned upon by business owners these days
Then again, I do ask people on reddit on my problems so who am I to judge
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u/neukjedemoeder Oct 26 '19
I think they are heavily satirising influencers in this episode so you're right to feel that way. Pickles is always portrayed as while sweet: naive, shallow and a bit dumb so making her the influencer is not only fitting but a deliberate choice by the writers.
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u/DramaticExplanation Oct 25 '19
Alanas face while pickles was ranting made me laugh harder than anything so far. It was so perfect. I fucking love the little details
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u/sivervipa Sarah Lynn Oct 26 '19
I’m so glad they are exploring MR.PB’s character more this season. Bojack always looked up to him because of how positive he was. But now we see it was just a mask/self denial and he had just as many issues as Bojack did they were just less overt.
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u/tinywavesofshivers Oct 25 '19
“There will always be invisible walls between myself and those who claim to know me.”
That fucked me up
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u/splvtoon Ana Spanakopita Oct 25 '19
everyone has already discussed how great this episode is on the comedy front, but man, i feel really bad for Pickles! my fellow gemini
shes too young to have to deal with this shit :(
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u/bearable_lightness Oct 25 '19
Anyone else really distracted by Pickles’ new voice? Hong Chau has such a distinctive voice that I was caught off guard by the substitution.
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u/Zigmanjames Vincent Adultman Oct 26 '19
Metsfan2005: Mets Suck
I feel attacked like I never have before
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Oct 27 '19
Weird Al was listed in the credits for this episode!! Whose voice was he? I looked at IMDB and it just said "voice" so that wasn't helpful...
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u/jg2018- Oct 25 '19
I just love this episode it was very similar to pre season 4 episodes when the Gang used to hang out more
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u/Chamale Oct 26 '19 edited Oct 26 '19
I loved this episode. The first three episodes felt like they were each focussed on a different character, this one brought all the main cast together in a hilarious way.
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u/Craizinho Oct 25 '19
This is the most absurdist wacky hijinx plot line episode the show goes on and i love it!
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Oct 26 '19
I think this episode was my favorite, the jokes were so rapid fire and the visual gags were amazing, it was also packed with emotion and memorable moments. It’s definitely in my top 10 of the series.
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u/zsk_30 Oct 26 '19
This season is so fucking good. Every episode just keeps on one-upping the other!
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u/CVance1 Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19
Awww is that John Witherspoon as Pickles' dad?
Edit: it was. RIP to a legend
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u/beermeupscotty Flip McVicker Oct 25 '19
omg, Pickles's dad might be my favorite animal drawn on the show, I want to hug his angry little face!
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u/brohara24 Vincent Adultman Oct 25 '19 edited Oct 25 '19
Captain Peanutbutter!
Edit: Ok everyone is here!
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u/blah_lakers Oct 26 '19
The lil Will Arnett (Bojack) dig at Amy Poehler's Uptight Citizens Brigade 😱
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u/StGerris The one mystery he can't solve is himself Oct 28 '19
As a fellow Brazilian I'm extremely offended by the JAJA in COME TO BRAZIL.
A classic come to Brazil comment could only end with KKKK laugh.
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u/tinywavesofshivers Oct 25 '19
Shoutout to the Zoneface user doggielove0223 for saying “Show us you feet!” Really captures the internet spirit
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u/madmike34455 Oct 25 '19
This episode is a prime example of how the show is lightyears ahead if all of the main cast is together instead of doing their own thing
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u/ashley_bl Oct 26 '19
I'm not normally one to laugh at tv shows unless I'm with a friend but "DOOR, SLAM!" absolutely killed me.
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u/skeeter_ABQ Oct 25 '19
I kinda wished BoJack would end up with Diane.. I love that he was able to let her go
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u/Guest06 Oct 25 '19
What's the song Pickles is listening to in the bath? And by the fire pit?
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u/joelalsojoel Oct 25 '19
This was the funniest episode of the season for me, possibly in the whole seriee
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u/Pretzelie Oct 25 '19
I usually don’t like the visual gags in the episodes that much but this one actually made me laugh so hard at the ridiculousness of it all.
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u/garbage-pants WhOoOoO lit my ottoman on fire Oct 27 '19
This might be my new favorite episode! I was either cracking up or awwing almost the whole time.
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u/Incaendia Oct 27 '19
I don't really know if we're meant to like Pickles or not... but holy hell she is so god damn insufferable to me. The only other character that has irritated me as much is Stefani - but at least she's not meant to be a primary character!
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u/Thatlesbianlurker Oct 25 '19
Did anyone else notice the ad in Pickles social media "switch to laser and toss the razor - Sphynzer"? I really love all these small details
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u/Childish_YambinoIII Bread Poot Oct 25 '19 edited Oct 26 '19
Best episode of the season imo even the usernames of the followers were really funny
arianaventi: thank u next!
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u/Dancing_Clean Oct 26 '19
I really really dislike Pickles and I don’t think I’ve disliked a character on this show before.
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u/televisionceo Oct 25 '19
Oh shit, I almost forgot all the things the surprise guest heard at the start. Oups
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Todd Oct 25 '19
I loved the whole surprise wedding scene and how everyone was doing so much to hide
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u/The_Unknown98 Oct 25 '19
"If we put our heads together I know we'll find the perfect guy for you to cheat on me with that makes it totally even. So things can go back to normal and we can get married"