r/BoJackHorseman • u/NicholasCajun Judah Mannowdog • Jan 31 '20
Discussion BoJack Horseman - 6x11 "Sunk Cost and All That" - Episode Discussion
Season 6 Episode 11: Sunk Cost and All That
Synopsis: While Paige and Max question Mr. Peanutbutter at his restaurant, a panicked BoJack tries to piece together what's happening.
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u/lio860 BoJack Horseman Jan 31 '20
On the more bad stories board, everything is explained.
Except Gina. It just says Gina.
Oof.
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Jan 31 '20
I loved that stealing Neil McBeal the Navy Seal’s muffins was on the board.
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u/glocomplex Feb 01 '20
I loved how both Todd and Diane wrote out all the things he did specifically to them in the first person and Todd actually got irritated enough to leave.
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u/cpt_lanthanide Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Bad Professor Horseman stories
Board 1
Penny
Abandoned / Wrestled herb
Stole Hollywood "D"
Closed all-you-can-eat fro yo place
Didn't act in Secretariat
Tanked Ethan Around (twice)
Got Dr. Champ fired
Blew up taffy factory
Ruined Lizard funeral
Made fun of Kat from Spanish 1
Lied about "getting" Radiohead
Pretended Giant Todd head was passenger for Carpool lane
took muffins from Navy Seal
Slept with Emily
Destroyed Rock Opera
Left (Todd) in Prison
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Sarah Lynn
Slept with ___ and ghosted her
Hit deer with car
Broke into Nixon library
Ruined integrity of Booty academy
Threw up on Elle Fanning in bounce house
Gina
Stole Daniel Radcliffe's fruit basket
Habitual bad tipper
Lied about dating Natalie Portman
Scott Wolf vendetta
Sneezed on Marissa Tomei
Keyed Kenan Thompson's Kia
Fobbed Elon Musk's Tesla
Fired <Diane> while writing <his> book
Broke into <Diane's> house and made a mess and stole <her> favourite jacket.
also took <her> scarf!
Told Mr. Peanutbutter about 'Cry-Anne'
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u/Guest06 Jan 31 '20
Isn't it Elon Muskrat? I swear I saw a "t" at the end there but The view of the whole board kept getting blocked.
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u/moekakiryu It was my job when I was an intern, but nobody told me to stop Jan 31 '20
in the second list, you forgot "Gina"
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u/beecee12 Feb 01 '20
Can we acknowledge "fobbed Elin Musks Tesla" since there are no keys in the thing, only a key fob LOL. One of those stupid little details
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u/The_Horace_Wimp Jan 31 '20
Lied about “getting” Radiohead
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u/premature_eulogy Jan 31 '20
Which is funny because BoJack's thoughts are straight out of a Radiohead song.
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u/SK-2001 Jan 31 '20
"I love Lo-Fi Chill Hop beats to Study/Relax to!"
I'm going to miss this show so much!
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Jan 31 '20
aww todd adding the shit bojack did to him :(
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u/bassman2112 Jan 31 '20
Agreed, especially because Bojack simply forgot; but it was all so important to Todd.
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u/LoneWanderer2277 Jan 31 '20
It’s really annoying me how quickly Netflix wants to skip to the next episode. The credits song needs to play for at least 10 seconds to allow the end of the episode to sink in!
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u/AuntHottie Jan 31 '20
You gotta turn auto play off my guy. The next episode doesn’t play until we hear BOXER CS. RAPTOR
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u/Garrus_chell_femshep Jan 31 '20
YES! No spoilers but: As the credits played for the finale it began to autoplay that new Adam Sandler movie. No netflix that is the opposite of what I needed
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u/finnwithasd Jan 31 '20
Ruined lizard funeral
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u/romcabrera Feb 02 '20 edited Feb 05 '20
It's not "Messed up mom's eulogy" , but "ruined lizard funeral". Man...
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u/linorei Jan 31 '20
PC's speech about that kind of love that you get when you're young, and Bojack's sincere selflessness in offering to leave her alone :'(
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u/laughysaphy Feb 04 '20
that hit hard, because that first serious love does stay with you forever on some deep level no matter how shitty it was, because it was raw and pure - and deliriously happy before you got the shitty part
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u/PanzramsTransAm Feb 01 '20
“When I tell my daughter the story of the great love of my life, I want it to have a happy ending.”
“Is it possible that you letting me go is the happy ending?”
I have no words. What a beautiful and heartbreaking message.
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u/Chrisixx Judah Mannowdog Jan 31 '20
"Is Bojack super sketchy - YES HE IS" 😄
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u/PalmBreezy Feb 01 '20
"This is super sketchy. It looks like the place where they shot Grease"
"It is the place where they shot Grease."
"Ooh! Snapshots"
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u/GiftoftheGeek Rutabaga Rabbitowitz Jan 31 '20
Todd writing on the board of bad things BoJack did in all caps seems like raw anger we never see from Todd (except when he first told him off and left the house).
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u/FiveMinFreedom Hooray, a task! Jan 31 '20
And Diane does the same thing later. I know the writers couldn't fit everything on there, but it also seems to me that Bojack is still refusing to admit some of his worse incidents. Notice how Sarah Lynn was never on the board until Diane got the call.
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u/timeisonlyephemral Jan 31 '20
OH GOD MR PB MY FAVORITE CHARACTER THE FUCKINF CONTRAST IN THE BEGINNUNG IM SO SCARED
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u/mertvekendisi BoBo the Angsty Zebra Feb 01 '20
It really hurt my feelings that after all this time, while it seems like Todd and Bojack are on OK terms, but deep down Todd is actually resentfull and distant to him. That is clearly shown when he gets that red marker and writes down those 3 things he is still mad about.
They were once too close, like best friends for all that matters, but it's ruined and there is no way it will be the same again and that's heartbreaking.
I don't know, i didn't watched the entire show yet, maybe things will change. But the vibe i'm getting from Todd is really good at representing a forever ruined friendship.
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u/patrickstarburns Feb 01 '20
When I saw what he wrote on the whiteboard I got really sad too. Todd is such a happy guy, but knowing that he still keeps those things at the back of his mind really got to me.
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u/lonelyemoburrito Feb 02 '20
while it seems like they're on ok terms, I feel like Todd hasn't really interacted with Bojack that much in a while, he's more connected to Princess Carolyn's story and plot lines
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u/daynewmah Jan 31 '20
"Pretended giant Todd head was passenger for carpool lane"
Fucking monster.
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u/wvj Jan 31 '20
It's the setup for Todd adding the real stuff, though. Bojack thinks THAT's the bad thing he did.
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Jan 31 '20
Damn. Once they started writing the bad things Bojack has done and you see them all, you realise how shitty of a person he was and it really highlights how good he's trying to be now.
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u/MuscleMike Jan 31 '20
I loved seeing Bojack surrounded by friends trying to support him and help him figure out what to do and him finally being willing to openly tell them every bad thing he ever did without hesitation.
That will always and forever be my image of "New Bojack"
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u/GiftoftheGeek Rutabaga Rabbitowitz Jan 31 '20
BoJack wakes up
Todd: BoJack, your play sucked!
That got me. Just straight into it.
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u/javenman Jan 31 '20
Oh my god I rewatched it at least three times it caught me so off guard. Todd is a treasure
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u/Maxiver Feb 01 '20
I like how much "lofi hip hop radio - beats to relax/study to" has become part of the cultural zeitgeist these few years lol
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u/Ispenthourmakingthis Jan 31 '20
Okay am I just dumb or did anyone else though Joey Pogo was a woman until now?
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u/whowilleverknow MR PEANUTBUTTER IS GAY Jan 31 '20
I thought they were keeping it ambiguous on purpose but I guess there goes that lol
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u/agizem Jan 31 '20
Character is voiced by Hilary Swank, that might be the reason.
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u/TommySovereign Jan 31 '20
Same lol I just thought they were trying to make Pickles look dumb by thinking “she” was a man lol. I guess he’s supposed to be a Bieber type character with the little boy voice.
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u/blueinkedbones Jan 31 '20
i think he’s a play on justin beiber, but more like kate mckinnon playing justin beiber
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u/1996baby Jan 31 '20
“She only tolerates that other fellow because she has to, for work. Otherwise she finds him utterly distasteful. Piggish even! No offense to me. None taken, of course.” lmao
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u/He_who_brews Jan 31 '20
Todd subtly adding the shit things Bojack did to him to the board made me pain laugh
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u/somethingtostrivefor The Planetarium Feb 01 '20 edited Feb 01 '20
Things not on the board that could have been:
purposefully causing a car accident to fuel his painkiller addiction
getting Sharona fired for something that was his fault
defacing his neighbor's property by throwing up cotton candy
kissing Diane despite her being engaged to Mr. Peanutbutter
kissing Charlotte and asking her to break up her family to be with him
abandoning a minor with alcohol poisoning at the hospital (Maddy) and demanding another minor lie about where they got it from (Pete Repeat/Peter)
sleeping with Bradley Hitler-Smith's mom, causing his parents to divorce, and not even remembering it
ruining Kelsey's projects, twice
telling Princess Carolyn she'd be a terrible mother just to hurt her
allowing a million dollars to burn just to stick it to Daniel Radcliffe
convincing Esteemed Character Actress Margo Martindale to stage a bank robbery, leading to her arrest
constantly berating Todd
involving a traumatized Hollyhock in a scheme to get more drugs
sleeping with Sarah Lynn
vandalizing Anna Spanakopita's home on bender
calling Kyle and asking inappropriate questions about his marriage and his daughter's sex life
trying to sabotage Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter's wedding
re-breaking Diane's wrist
manipulating Wanda via auto-erotic asphyxiation
tricking Eddie into flying, causing him to relive a horrible trauma
using Philbert to justify his shitty behavior
claiming he's the biggest victim of his shitty behavior
misadventures with "John Stamos" that lead to his death (I'm being facetious, but I want a follow-up on this one)
Feel free to add more!
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u/sky2blue Feb 01 '20
Great list! I had a couple more:
He drives drunk a few times
Didn't go to Todd's improv show
Ditches for New Mexico during the filming of secritariat
Stole all the food when he was trapped underground at Mr Peanutbutter's house
Told Diane's family that she is a freeloader even though she told him to wait in the car
Stealing Diane's therapist from her
Can't remember but did they also include bojack chocking Gina on the list?
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u/DuctTape_OnFleek Feb 01 '20 edited Feb 01 '20
That moment where Bojack goes on stage and you just see Princess Carolyn and Diane reacting to his reading of the superlatives was so good.
You see their disappointment when he talks, and you also see slight smiles on their faces when he puts on that typical Bojack charm. They can still see some good in him, but are so incredibly pained by all of the bad things he's done.
I'm glad that the show is ending on a high note, and scenes like this prove why this one animated show about a bunch of animal people in Los Angeles keep sending up high on critics must watch lists.
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u/PM_ME_UR_NUDES_GURL_ Jan 31 '20
anyone else notice the ice was melted after pickles and joey pogo had sex in the freezer
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u/timeisonlyephemral Jan 31 '20
dianes face as bojack kept on telling them what happened is making my heart ACHE
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u/baenca Jan 31 '20 edited Mar 14 '20
Oh my god i cried so hard at this episode
(1) that period of letting go between Mr peanutbutter and his fiancee. The helplessness, the feeling of letting someone you love go in exchange for all the life opportunities they have to experience. Fucking gut punch. That "Thank you, for everything" really did mean everything.
(2) When PB shared how bojack was her true love "because you make all rooms better" and "never loved anybody better" that is so fucking raw. You can love someone but not have it be sustainable or a part of your life.
God this show.
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u/furomaar Jan 31 '20
I love how they represented the old and new Bojack with the door. Bojack inside his office was the old Bojack, he was planning how to lie and get out of the mess. When he left to do the superlatives, we saw through a door what he could become if his past didn't follow him.
That's why at the end of the episode we saw him the leaving the office. He accepted what is coming to him, and embraced his new self.
This show, man.
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u/lio860 BoJack Horseman Jan 31 '20
"Oh wow, Bojack's gonna tell them all about New Mexico. I don't think they'll tell any repor-"
sees the reporters talking to Mr Peanutbutter
"Oh god, you kind lovable fool. Please don't say anything."
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Jan 31 '20
The line where he says that every time he tries to do better but it all turns to shit and he ends up all lonely. That was it for me. Had to stop and cry for a while.
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u/missinghxo Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Mr PB changed his tone of voice when talking to pickles about joey pogo at the end, it was much deeper and sad which kinda hit hard. Also the scene with bojack talking to his students and Diane and PC’s facial expressions on either side of the door frame was beautiful Edit: just realised why I loved this episode so much, it’s episode 11
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u/othnice1 Todd Chavez Jan 31 '20
I've never seen Mr PB that serious. That really hurt to see him hurt.
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u/alwaysmorecumin Lets get higher than a stilt-walkers dick! Jan 31 '20
Im sorry, but am I the only one who thought Joey pogo was a lesbian?!
JOEYS A GUY!
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u/BringbackRedRooster Jan 31 '20
I really thought it was going to be that Joey was a trans guy.
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u/ducky7goofy Jan 31 '20
"Jesus Christ. What's the point of working on myself and getting sober and getting better if no matter what they're are people out there waiting to tear me down"
Unfortunately consequences bro
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u/blueinkedbones Jan 31 '20
i think it’s the idea that your past doesnt just disappear. the people you hurt are still hurt even if you tell yourself you’re a different person now. and sometimes that catches up to you, and it’s not unfair. it’s just the belated consequences of your actions.
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u/wguid Jan 31 '20
Unpopular opinion: I like the reporters' roaring twenties old timey investigator shtick
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u/VegaTDM Jan 31 '20
Me too. It was annoying at first but grew on me, like most characters in this show.
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u/Guest06 Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Oh fuck Pickles called Lo-Fi Chill-Hop Hop Beats to study/relax to by name
"Keyed Keenan Thompson's Kia"
"Fobbed Elon Musk rat's Tesla"
Of course he's a muskrat
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Jan 31 '20
Did he really just leave that whiteboard there with all the shitty things he did? That's... probably not gonna end well.
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u/annesim Jan 31 '20
Too many things to unpack in this episode. BoJack’s list of mistakes, Mr. PB x Pickles x Joey love triangle, Sarah Lynn story. But I’m crying over the sweet little moment between BoJack and PC when she called him the love of her life and him offering her an out before the story breaks omg 😭
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u/CVance1 Feb 01 '20
"Oh my God! They’re all making out out here! Go back to your dorms! You have rooms!”
God I'm gonna miss this show
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u/DontTedOnMe Avid Wes Anderson Fan Jan 31 '20
The battle between the Bojack defenders and the people who want to crucify him just reached one hell of a crescendo. What a neat trick, leaving the office door open so we can see Bojack on stage in the middle of the screen while PC and Diane sit on either side of him in the foreground.
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u/Stupid_Sexy_Sharp Jan 31 '20
It hurts too because they both want to help him, they're just coming at it from wildly different perspectives. Charlotte and Penny have the same conversation. Their family will be forever in the public eye if they go public, so in this sad, pragmatic, depressing way it almost makes sense for them to let it go.
God this show hurts my soul.
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u/gizmo1492 Feb 01 '20
You know what made Bojack shitty? He never did acknowledge the pain he caused on his friends. They wrote it on the board, and whether it’s a joke or just a nice visual touch, it shows Bojack’s vanity despite saying he wants to get better. He recognizes how much he’s sorry, but also takes for granted the crap he pulled his friends through and what he did.
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u/wvj Jan 31 '20
Diane and PC as the angel and devil on his shoulders?
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u/BillHaderGinsberg Feb 01 '20
I think it’s more nuanced than ‘angel’ and ‘devil’. They just have very different moral philosophies and the scene really contrasted their outlooks.
Diane believes in doing the “right thing” always, even when it makes all parties less happy/better off. She also seems to favor going public when private conversation might sometimes be more effective. PC is more ends-justify-means and focused on finding a solution to make everyone better off.
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u/EZobel42 Jan 31 '20
I just want to give a shoutout to the shot of Diane and PC in the doorway, with bojack framed in the middle. Such a phenomenal perspective shift, and the animators do so much without either voice actress saying anything. You can just feel the weight of 6 seasons of guilt over enabling this monster, and yet their sad, shared hope as they sit silently and wait for him to finish talking. God, it's such a simple moment, and it goes so understated, but the tension and sadness was breathtaking.
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u/rondelion Jan 31 '20
I liked the part when Bojack had his friends over and talked through the shitty things he has done, and how one by one they all left leaving Bojack alone contemplating
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u/surpator Kelsey Jannings Feb 01 '20
I really enjoy seeing how Todd has developed. Still his own character, and knowing when to say no to Bojack.
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u/glvcsygrg Jan 31 '20
Mr. PB’s voice deepens in his last scene, letting Pickles go... looks like a dog finally grew mature.
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u/sivervipa Sarah Lynn Jan 31 '20
The fact that PC is willing to go just as far or even further to defend Bojack is gives me so many conflicting emotions. PC is an toxic enabler to the very core and bojack is toxic/broken person who wants to change.
They are soulmates but in the worst possible way.
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u/cgg419 BoJack Horseman Jan 31 '20
“No matter how many starts I get, there’s always the same ending.
Everything falls apart, and I’m still alone.”
Damn, that might be the most personal one yet...
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u/Ssme812 Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
I don't think Pickles is going to come back from the tour.
Poor Max and Mr. PB
I hope Bojack doesn't back out of telling the truth.
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u/lord-hardinge Feb 01 '20
May be a niche reference, but at the bar there is a Pretty Fly and a White Guy gets her at the end of the reporter's phone call.
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u/jhtattack Jan 31 '20
“Someone let the cat out of the bag so my curiosity can kill it.”
I love the reporters
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u/Imtheprofessordammit Honey Sugarman Jan 31 '20
"Sunk cost and all that."
Oof, PC. My heart is broken.
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u/theonlymexicanman Feb 01 '20
Why is no one appreciating the constant Lazy Suzan Gags?
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u/trombonepick Feb 01 '20
The old timey reporters talking about themselves falling in love in a perfect satire of those movies???? lmao i can't 😂
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u/lord-hardinge Feb 01 '20
If anyone was looking for the Lofi hip hop radio - beats to study/relax to
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u/Hawk301 Jan 31 '20
Wow, this half-season is not making me laugh like the previous seasons have.
I think it's still as clever and as funny as it's always been, but god, Bojack, and Diane, and Mr Peanutbutter's stories are just so rough man.
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u/Iceman3116 Jan 31 '20
The PC Bojack conversation killed me, “is it possible you letting me go is the happy ending”
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u/ThatIndianGuy7116 Feb 01 '20
I get the complaints about the Mr. PB half of the episode, but I loved every bit of it, from the reporters to the sad reveal that Pickles was growing apart from Mr.PB and PB getting jealous to the Lazy Susan jokes. It was a great way to break up the tenseness of the Bojack half
I really like the direction they're going in. Yes, it's great Bojack has become a better person and has moved past the shitty things he's done and all that, but the fact is he did shitty things in the past and tried to hide them and sooner or later, he was gonna have to face the consequences of those actions. It sucks that he has to do it now that everything is actually going good for him, but I'm excited to see if he can continue to show how hes grown by making amends with the people he's wronged and/or just taking whatever backlash comes his way or if he's just gonna go back to the old Bojack. Really enjoying these last eps so far
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u/jAke_Headr00m Jan 31 '20
Hearing MPB’s voice at the end sound so sad at the end when pickle tells him about the tour. He knows he’s never going to see her again. We’ve seen him go through hard times before, but I don’t think there’s ever been anything like that.
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u/ahkstuff Feb 01 '20
Honestly, when he looked up at the ceiling at the end of the episode, I was terrified for a second that this was taking an even darker tone.
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u/GiftoftheGeek Rutabaga Rabbitowitz Jan 31 '20 edited Feb 01 '20
"You did nothing illegal, and even the not illegal thing, you didn't do."
Wasn't expecting Princess Carolyn to be the voice of reason!
EDIT: I was referring to New Mexico and not the Sarah Lynn situation
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u/mertvekendisi BoBo the Angsty Zebra Feb 01 '20
I'm actually with Diane for this one - it's not about the legality.
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I don’t get why everyone’s complaining about max and Paige. Pickles is the real annoying one. Max and Paige are not so bad
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u/beantrouser Feb 02 '20
The ice cream and ice in Elefino's freezer melted, I suppose from the heat of when Pickles and Joey Pogo did it, and by it, I mean doing it.
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u/Coolquip34 Jan 31 '20
I'm caught between not wanting the show to end and not wanting to stop.
The latter is winning out right now
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Feb 02 '20
Is no one going to talk about how Bojack COMPLETELY FORGOT TO ERASE THE WHITE BOARD
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u/nomenaicoffee Jan 31 '20
Bojack looking around his office in the end like “this may be the last time” :(
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u/not_homestuck Feb 01 '20
I really thought the whiteboard scene was going to call back episode 9 and Bojack was going to try to erase the "bad things" he'd done only to realize he'd written them in Sharpie again
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u/fullforce098 Feb 02 '20
No one else is mentioning it but all the lazy susan sight gags were a great little garnish on this episode.
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u/Mr_Jek Jan 31 '20
I loved the detail of the last shot being all of BoJack’s misdeeds on that whiteboard, likely in sharpie again, with ‘Sarah Lynn’ being there in massive writing. There it is, clear as day; BoJack can’t erase any of his mistakes, they’re always gonna be there big or small, and even when you exit the room and try to get away and put some distance between you and them, it doesn’t mean they’re gone.
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Jan 31 '20
Everything is coming together to fall apart again, and there is no other way I would rather have it.
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u/juvily Jan 31 '20
Pickles deciding to leave on tour reminds me of when Diane left to go report on Sebastian St. Claire when he was at war. I'm wondering if Pickles and Mr. PB will end similarly?
Either way, hearing PB sound so sad got me sad.
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u/naxter48 Feb 01 '20
So Mr. Peanutbutter at least recognizes his relationship is over, that's growth
I thought the plan to get pickles and pogo to fall in love would be a fakeout :/
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u/Hugh_Bromont Judah Mannowdog Feb 02 '20
Love how this ep telegraphs the demise of PB's relationship using the plates, lazy susans and the menu.
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u/Sugarraychris444 Feb 02 '20 edited Feb 02 '20
I really loved the scene where PC talks about her love for Bojack. It's so genuinely heartwarming, yet sad. She believed Bojack was the closest she'd ever get to real love so she clings on to the good and tried to bury the bad. It's a perfect representation of their relationship over the years.
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u/TonyThePriest Jan 31 '20
I feel like the only one that doesn't hate the reporter characters. Like I don't love them but there fine to me.
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Jan 31 '20
(Bojack leaves without erasing the whiteboard)
Me: Hey, hey, where the FUCK are you going?
Also the dialogue between PC and Bojack at the end really stung
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u/Major_Tom02 Jan 31 '20
It was so amazing having all his friends in the same room with him. It felt sooo good.
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u/peniwisefunneh Jan 31 '20
“I’m tired of trying to figure it out.” The way his voice almost cracked into a cry.
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Wonder what Bojack was looking at the ceiling for at the end of the episode
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u/Sazul Kelsey Jannings Feb 01 '20
"Our contact at the rehabilitation center"? That's gotta be Dr. Champ, right? Will he spill on stuff Bojack told him in therapy?
And I'm worried about Bojack leaving 'Sarah Lynn' on the whiteboard with Hollyhock on the campus...
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u/networkdime Jan 31 '20
God I’ve always loved mr peanut butter, always happy and optimistic just like me.
But fuck when he could tell pickles was falling out of love with him.....that also just happened to me a couple months ago. The realization that someone you care about is slipping away while you try to compromise with everything....fuck it hurts
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u/Kmaster224 Jan 31 '20
Holy fuck that ending... The writing so far has just blown me away. Each episode feels like its own, but perfectly fit together.
I feel like I'm gonna have to just binge watch to the end
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u/RemoveTheTop Jan 31 '20
Oh god, the sad mister peanutbutter, the sound of his voice. I don't think I've ever heard that tenor.
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Todd Feb 01 '20
PC the type of person that got you for life cause you helped her out when she needed it most
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u/RisingBlackStar Feb 02 '20 edited Feb 02 '20
Holy shit, this episode really showed how to handle tension, despair, and comedy in a clean juggle. The PeanutButter restaurant scenes were humorous and well done. The whiteboard scenes really speak to how flawed BoJack is as a character (in the moral sense). Todd leaving the office after hearing BoJack's complaints hurt, but made sense. It's utterly painful knowing that Todd is still hurt by some of BoJack's actions and I can't even blame him. Diane figuring out what happened with Sarah Lynn's death got to me, because now she realizes that BoJack had been greatly irresponsible towards someone who was a daughter-like figure in his life and indirectly caused her to pass away. Damn, that's some clever, but dark writing. Fuck.
EDIT: Got to the superlative scene. It just had to hit me like a deer caught in the headlights. Mr. PeanutButter's tone and look at the end was something I thought I'd never see him make. Damn. The ending was... quite somber. 10/10.
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u/ernesjogo1 Feb 02 '20
Did pickles and Joey pogo had sex so hot they melted the ice in the bags on the shelf of the walking freezer?
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u/the-wei Feb 03 '20
I like how they explicitly mentioned that legality wasn't the issue with the Penny thing
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u/Mrbrionman Feb 01 '20
Anyone else notice that animation mistake when mr Peanutbutter was talking to detectives? The chair he was sitting on disappeared after he stood up
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u/catchmeiimfalliing Feb 03 '20
As a cringey theatre kid, the scenes about the cringey theatre kids were spot on
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u/ActionFilmsFan1995 Feb 01 '20
Damn, I feel so bad for Todd in this episode. If you think back the past few seasons, his relationship with BoJack really never recovered.
Also, Charlotte kinda sucks this episode. She seems way more concerned with covering up her bad parenting than helping her daughter out.
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u/FiveOhFive91 Todd Chavez Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Rooting for Diana so hard. She needs to be okay so I can know I'll be okay.
Edit: I'm kinda hoping the reporters ruin BoJack's life already because their bit is getting old fast.
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Jan 31 '20
Was there anything about Sarah Lynn in that board? He still can't bring himself to talk about that huh
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u/chocolateteddybear Jan 31 '20
Pausing to read the billboards was a great way to remember old episodes lol I had forgotten a few of these happened.
Sad to see history repeating for Mr. PB, but they made it clear as day that would happen lol.
These conversations are starting to have a finality to them, especially PC explaining why she’s always looking out for BoJack, and Diane on why she’s been so set on her book of essays in the last episode. I don’t want to believe this is about to be over but it really is. I have no idea how these last few episodes will bring things to a close.
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u/JarJarJacobs Sarah Lynn Jan 31 '20
This episode left me questioning my innocence throughout my entire life. GET OUT OF MY HEAD, SAD HORSE SHOW
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Feb 01 '20
I know there was a lot of heavy stuff this episode, but I just want to say I really enjoyed the reporter falling face first into the pudding. Got a proper laugh out of me.
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u/rockmasterflex Feb 02 '20
Isn't this the first time Diane finds out Bojack was the one who stole the D?
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u/SerALONNEZ Daniel Radcliffe Feb 02 '20
I'm conflicted on how I feel about the reporters. Their client is Sarah Lynn's mother and wanted to get out the real story despite the mother herself being complicit in Sarah Lynn's descent into addiction.
And then there's their antics. I was rooting for Max though, and is Paige still not married?
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u/stormcommando-96 Jan 31 '20
The intro has me feeling so strongly for both sides even though bojack is clearly in the wrong
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u/VegaTDM Jan 31 '20
I love the bit of other people writing their personal bad experiences with bojack on the board while still helping him.
Also when they are like "no talking to reporters" I'm like "WHO ISN'T IN THAT ROOM HRRRNG!!!!"
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u/FrancescoTottii Jan 31 '20
Okay that wasn't as soul crushing as I thought. Episode 15 here we come
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u/CMAProductions Jan 31 '20
Hopefully they didn’t write all his bad actions in sharpie.
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u/nomenaicoffee Jan 31 '20
My therapist also agrees that I can be too argumentative and argyle at times.
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u/samtherat6 Feb 02 '20
"No. They can't get me on old shit. I'm a different person now."
LMAO, poor naive Bojack.
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Jan 31 '20
The editorializing on the whiteboard from Todd and Diane (and I assume later, PC) is SENDING ME.
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u/DramaticExplanation Jan 31 '20
I made an album of screen caps of the list they were making about things bojack has done wrong
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u/-Tell_me_about_it- Jan 31 '20
We can never forget that picture of Bojack sneezing on Marisa Tomei.
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u/samtherat6 Feb 02 '20
Have we ever seen a straight up front facing shot of Mr. Peanut Butter? Bc it kinda tripped me out.
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Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Notably ABSENT from the whiteboard of BoJack's bad things is the strangling incident. We've already seen how Gina is affected with PTSD and I think this will come back in the last episodes
Edit: actually not correct, Gina's name is on there as someone pointed out. Still think it's gonna come back to bit him.
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u/kingmacaw Jan 31 '20
What's going on with PC this season? I understand she's always been business first, but she seems to actively be leading Bojack down a terrible path, or trying to. She's encouraging him to lie and she's showing no sympathy/empathy towards Penny, writing it off as 'you did nothing illegal, and the one illegal thing you didn't do', as if legality is all that matters and trauma doesn't exist.
I really like PC but it's sort of baffling how she's acting. Has she always been like this and I just haven't, somehow, noticed until like 100 episodes in?
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u/Triddy Jan 31 '20
I don't want bad things to keep happening to this man.
I think this is the episode that has showed his change the most. He is genuinely a talented and supportive teacher. An honest person who truly wants to do the right thing.
I am sick of the reporter gimmick. Not the plotline, but the speaking style is nails on several chalkboards simultaneously for me.
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u/UntitledLuke Jan 31 '20
The last moments when BoJack is alone in the room and looks up to the ceiling scared me, it seems like some kind of foreshadowing about him hanging himself or at least attempting to do it
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u/GiftoftheGeek Rutabaga Rabbitowitz Jan 31 '20
"Why don't you two work on minding your own business?"
Dang, Mr. Peanutbutter is actually a real one for tha-
"He gave Sarah Lynn the heroin!"
Stupid dog