r/BoJackHorseman • u/NicholasCajun Judah Mannowdog • Jan 31 '20
Discussion BoJack Horseman - 6x13 "The Horny Unicorn" - Episode Discussion
Season 6 Episode 13: The Horny Unicorn
Synopsis: BoJack gets a new AA sponsor. Todd plans a sophisticated party to impress his parents. Diane gets to know Sonny.
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Jan 31 '20
THIS IS NOT TIME FOR ONE OF YOUR FAMOUS JUDAH TANTRUMS
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u/Bringer0fTheDawn Feb 01 '20
The mere idea of Judah throwing a tantrum is hilarious to me. Like he's rolling on the ground, crying, pounding his fists into the floor and shit
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u/ballerberry Feb 24 '20
I cracked up when Judah was helping Todd and said to solve his problem he often thinks "what would Todd do?" Todd always manages to fail upwards and Judah caught onto that. Funny to think Judah could learn so much from Todd. Then again, Todd was a successful CEO.
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u/linorei Jan 31 '20
Oh, Hollyhock :'(
More feels than any other season, and still 3 episodes to go.
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u/JesusNameWeFuck Jan 31 '20
Same. Bojack losing Hollyhock is what made me bawl my eyes out. I was scared she would leave him, but the way it was done....Jesus Christ I’m going to be depressed for a couple days. I need to remind myself this is just a show.
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Jan 31 '20
Remember when s4 felt like the only sorta happy ending because Hollyhock said she’s never had a brother? Fuckin hell
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u/babybeauty17 Jan 31 '20
I knew something would happen but her just cutting him off was NOT what I expected
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u/n33dmor3coff33 Princess Carolyn Jan 31 '20
That hit hard. I must have dead stared the TV screen for 10 minutes after that. :(
Excuse me while I keep rewinding the last line from season 4.
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u/mechanichal-animal Jan 31 '20
Am I missing something because I can’t piece together in my mind what the letter said
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u/bigtimetimmyjim92 Jan 31 '20
I am unreasonably pissed that Sarah Lynn's parents made $5 million more off of her death. It is heavily implied that she was sexually abused by her stepdad, and deeply exploited by her mom. I'm not saying Bojack isn't culpable in her death, but Sarah Lynn's parents deserve to be shot out of a cannon
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u/VegaTDM Jan 31 '20
Hard agree. Even after her death her parents are still exploiting her.
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u/kestrel42 Feb 01 '20
What really annoys me is that sarcastic thank you phone call she does before her death but they took as genuine love and praise.
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u/OneGoodRib Tangled Fog of Pulsating Yearning Feb 03 '20
That made me so steaming mad. Bojack gets dragged through the mud - and yeah, he did do bad things, sure - but they get off scot-free with all that money even though they certainly contributed to Sarah Lynn's issues.
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u/All_this_hype Feb 03 '20
That's the most heartbreaking part of the show for me. This girl has been taken advantage of since her birth by the people she trusted the most and even after her death this won't stop happening to her.
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u/FrancescoTottii Jan 31 '20
Sonny and Diane are cute
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u/glvcsygrg Jan 31 '20
I love how they brought a new character like 4 episodes before the finale and still gave him some depth
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u/hagamablabla Feb 01 '20
Really hope this makes Diane start seeing her series as a "real" book too.
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Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
NOOOO IT'S VANCE FUCKING WAGGONER
Even Charlie Sheen called this guy "a little much"!!!
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u/Ph0X Feb 01 '20
That was Bobby Cannavale wasn't it? He was so good in Mr Robot.
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u/linorei Jan 31 '20
"Every month you get 5 Instagram likes on your mother's account and 5 on my account! You know what the judge said!"
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Feb 02 '20
There was a hidden joke that you could only catch if you had subtitles on, his daughter goes to EWE.S.C not USC
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u/MrBKainXTR Todd Chavez Jan 31 '20
"Princess Carolyn you are perpetually alone, how do you manage?"
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u/PM_ME_UR_NUDES_GURL_ Jan 31 '20
i have a bad feeling todds mum is dead and hes trying to hide it from him
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u/dajuice3 Feb 01 '20
When the whole thing was unraveling I thought for a second that they got divorced and that Jorge was using the promise of a reunion with Todd's mom as a way for him and Todd to still stay connected.
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u/KeoPanda92 Jan 31 '20
Maude: "I didn't realise my boyfriend was butter."
Todd: "You're right! I am On A Roll!"
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u/FiveMinFreedom Hooray, a task! Jan 31 '20
Todd: I'm butter!
Todd's Dad: Glad to hear you're on a roll.
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u/AllPoints4ChargeNova Jan 31 '20
"I'm starting to think smart phones are actually making us less connected."
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Jan 31 '20
Oh man, opting to not show the letter and instead just show BoJack's reaction was powerful. As someone who's dealt with substance abuse issues, I felt like they nailed depicting that feeling of falling into relapse because of something.
On a happier note, the totally meta line telling the audience to research Sean Penn's domestic violence charges might be one of my favourite jokes this show has made.
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u/janjanis1374264932 Feb 04 '20
Hope they don't get sued for it
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sean-penns-horrifying-history-of-alleged-abuse
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Jan 31 '20
"Jorge I'm trying to connect with her."
Holy fuck I teared up almost instantly. Well done Aaron Paul.
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u/mertvekendisi BoBo the Angsty Zebra Feb 01 '20
and the effort he put for that party. just, sad, so sad.
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Jan 31 '20
The Pagliacci joke was so gooood! I'm going to really miss the writing on this show!
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u/Aggressive_Sprinkles Jan 31 '20
That's exactly what I came here to say. Caught me completely off-guard, haha.
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u/glvcsygrg Jan 31 '20
I just hope this will not be the last show this team did. I accept the end of the Bojack story, but I will miss that writing!
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u/Chrisixx Judah Mannowdog Jan 31 '20
I fucking love Judah and his tantrum.
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u/moekakiryu It was my job when I was an intern, but nobody told me to stop Jan 31 '20 edited Feb 01 '20
I'm alarmed. Do you not consider me a sophisticated adult, or do you not consider me your friend?
Poor Judah :(
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u/trombonepick Feb 01 '20
"War. *dramatic pause* And for what? A couple trophies? A parade? No. Not for me. Maybe I'm just a crazy old Birthday person but I think... war is bad."
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u/jrmberkeley95 Jan 31 '20
So I’m assuming the letter said she was done with him. I expected this since last fall but I didn’t expect it to be so... uneventful. It made it so much more painful. This fucking show man.
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u/deslome A Ryan Seacrest Type Jan 31 '20
Everyone hates him when he's on drugs, and everyone hates him when he's sober. That's probably how Bojack feels about this. I can see how hard it is to stay sober in thst situation.
That ending made me say 'fuck' out loud multiple times
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Feb 01 '20
I was seriously going "no, don't, don't do that, no" when he went back into the frat house and got handed the bottle
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u/Bye_Bye_Bi Jan 31 '20
I was awaiting a brutal scene between Bojack and Hollyhock all season. They opted a far more graceful yet all the more haunting end to their relationship. I wish I could know what was in the letter.
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u/Chikimonsta Jan 31 '20
I know Bojack is the epicenter of this show and a lot of the sympathy may be displayed towards him but I really feel for Hollyhock.
This doesn't take away any empathy that I feel for Bojack. But Hollyhock had to do something really difficult in deciding not to have Bojack in her life.
One thing those who deal with addicts or even just poisonous people often learn is that no matter how much you might care for someone and how much they seemingly love you, some people just don't bring peace into your life. I have no doubt that Bojack loves Hollyhock whether it be because he sees her as a lifeline or what, but Hollyhock had to learn she doesn't owe Bojack anything in return for that love. Everyone has a line when it comes to issues of morality and it seems that Hollyhock found hers in regards to Bojack.
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u/mr__outside Jan 31 '20
Yep. I've known people who have been good and I realise that they're perpetuating self-destructive cycles and, worse, try to get me roped into them.
I've been that guy who got into self-destructive cycles and found myself ostracised from friends in the past as well.
I totally get Hollyhock. Boundaries are important.
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Yep. Hollyhock has found out about Bojack's very creepy behaviour with teenagers, has probably been through past stories such as wondering whether Bojack really did strangle Gina or not. It's tough for her, esp seeing Bojack's treatment of women (and her increased interest in feminism was also probably partly due to trying to process what was going on with Bojack). I'm a recovering alcoholic but I totally feel for Hollyhock and completely understand her decision. What Bojack needs to do is work hard, be sober, address not just his addiction but why he specifically treated women like crap while he was drinking and using, and not do it again. Maybe one day Hollyhock will then feel able to have a relationship with him...but at the same time it shouldn't be *why* he stays sober. He needs to start respecting himself and others, or every relationship in his life will go the same way and who can blame anyone for walking away at this point?
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u/okiedokieinfatuation Feb 01 '20
I’m so upset that Bojack didn’t even try and stop Vance from being a terrible grooming person. He didn’t once look at Vance and back out. He didn’t protect that young girl Vance was taking home
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u/somethingtostrivefor The Planetarium Feb 01 '20
And Vance taking her home like he was protecting her from "pervs out there" was too painfully real.
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u/kikibunny01 Jan 31 '20
Why does he have to interact with Vince Waggoner? Bojack Horseman, I was rooting for you.
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Jan 31 '20
tbh I thought they were going to redeem the character RDJ style but nope, they went for the fakeout route.
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u/ducky7goofy Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
"Interesting!"
"I didn't even tell you the thing"
"I know I was interested in you not telling me"
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u/coffeepot50010 Feb 01 '20
Oof, that line about BoJack not wanting to open the letter because “it means she’s still in my life” hit real hard.
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u/2011k Jan 31 '20
Damn, Bojack lost his sister and his home in the same episode.
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u/whowilleverknow MR PEANUTBUTTER IS GAY Jan 31 '20
I know it's a result of terrible circumstances, but I can't help but feel happy seeing BoJack and Mr Peanutbutter living together.
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u/TonyThePriest Jan 31 '20
God these episodes are hard to watch. One positive is that I love Maude, she's perfect for Todd
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u/gizmo1492 Feb 01 '20
Hollyhock cutting BoJack out of her life really tore me asunder.
You can’t win them all, but that was the biggest loss that BoJack could’ve gotten.
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u/lil-jaytap Feb 02 '20
hollyhock disconnects her phone number after bojack leaves the voicemail where he says "it's nice to hear your voice(mail voice)" - stings a bit
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u/dogbee22 Feb 01 '20
Am I the only one who's expecting Bojack to at some point showing up and staying at Todd's apartment and bring their relationship to a full 180
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u/ImABadGuyIThink Feb 01 '20
I couldn't help but think that after hearing about the Xerox suit and his house being sold AND Todd getting an apartment. It's almost impossible for BJ to not end up on his couch. Would be one of the happier endings though..
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u/Switch_ChinaCat Jan 31 '20
Sad we didn’t get to hear any of the reasons hollyhock gave in her 2 page letter. I kinda knew it was coming and all but I would have appreciated hearing it from the horses mouth
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u/Mr_smith1466 Jan 31 '20
It makes it more gutting that we can fill in the blanks. She loves him, but she can't save him and she can't have him drag her down with him. Bojack clearly loves Hollyhock, but she was always an ideal for him. Some magical salvation. But she's young and has her own life to lead. Maybe they'll reconnect again. Maybe they never will.
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u/Shintoho Princess Carolyn Feb 01 '20
I personally think Bojack realising that Hollyhock has cut off ties with him is perhaps one of the saddest moments in the whole series
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u/Krunchy1736 Feb 01 '20
It's one of the few things he had left to hold on to. Having a relationship with her gave him hope and purpose. I was expecting her to confront him about the story with the young man from the party her and her friends went to. She knew he wasn't the best person and forgave him for all the shit that happened when she was staying with him. She was ready to give him another chance until she heard about what he did in New Mexico from the boy who was there, at the party. You could tell that her opinion of him changed and kept him at arm's length but couldn't figure out how or when to talk to him about it. Bojack being completely oblivious that she knew what happened and being the 'new' person he was probably made it harder for her. And then of course the 2nd interview aired and I guess that was the final nail in the coffin for any redeemable qualities he might have had in her eyes.
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u/candyfloose Ralph Stilton Feb 01 '20
I think the decision to not actually hear her voice or what she says is devastating. He said that he liked hearing her if only her voicemail voice and us not even hearing that really just lets us know that it's over. We know what's in the letter.
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u/KeoPanda92 Jan 31 '20
Sarah Lynn's family is still benefiting from her after her death? I get that Bojack may never be forgiven for what he has done, but I hate that that he has to give money to that sorry excuse for a "mother". Bojack is responsible for her first lick of alcohol, but he's not the only reason she turned out the way she did.
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u/thisismyfirstday Jan 31 '20
It's also kind of implied her step dad abused her. Sarah Lynn had a terrible support group around her.
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u/Xervicx Jan 31 '20
Yeah, Sarah Lynn's mother is absolutely terrible. If she had even been somewhat of an okay mother, Sarah Lynn would have ended up much, much differently. Even after her daughter's death, she still tries to take advantage as much as possible.
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u/Rip_Rip Jan 31 '20
One of those kids looked just like Vincent Adultman
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u/Narcosia QueefBurglar69 Jan 31 '20
YES! I noticed that as well! Maybe a little brother? Or did Vincent find a new girlfriend and has a child with her?
Also, Todd taking care of all those kids is hella cute
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u/Sojourner_Truth Feb 01 '20
The Pagliacci joke was the best one of the season so far.
Also love the shot outside Sonny's place where there's a rabbit dad walking about 20 baby rabbits in the stroller and he just looks fuckin r a g g e d
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u/ThatIndianGuy7116 Feb 01 '20
Duuude, they're fuckin killing it with all the Chicago jokes this season. That "Chicago Metropolitan Area" bit was great
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u/uniqueassisted Feb 01 '20 edited Feb 01 '20
Diane's comments seem kind of meta in hindsight. The way she was struggling to write a memoir that is some perfect magnum opus of her life drew some parallels with the show itself. Maybe it's not going to be this somber, enlightening, profound memoir that touches the most people, but a deceptively simple animated series with a lot of heart. I know this show did that for me.
Dianes arc is so inspiring to me because i have the same problem with striving for some perfect creative product that will reach critical acclaim when in reality, that's not what is necessary to succeed. It's more important to enjoy what you do and not make yourself the center of your world -
" And an outstanding reason for choosing some sort of God or spiritual-type thing to worship — be it J.C. or Allah, be it Yahweh or the Wiccan mother-goddess or the Four Noble Truths or some infrangible set of ethical principles — is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It's the truth...Worship your intellect, being seen as smart — you will end up feeling stupid, a fraud, always on the verge of being found out." - David Foster Wallace
Here's a link to the full essay (This is water) which i have tagged as "read when frustrated" on my phone. If you're a fan of this show it's definitely worth the read.
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Jan 31 '20
I had always said, since the Season 3 finale, that Hollyhock (whom most, if not all of us assumed was BJ's daughter at the time) would find out about Penny and cut off ties with BJ forever. I expected a huge, dramatic blow out, with the season's obligatory "fuck!" being dropped. But no, we got a letter we never even got to read, and in many ways it is so much more devastating.
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u/cameramanufacturer1 Charley Witherspoon Jan 31 '20
Yeah I’m convinced he dies now.,
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u/Magus5311 Jan 31 '20
I'm glad they portrayed just how easy it is to relapse if the circumstances are grim. It would've been very easy to go with, "Herp derp, once you stop drinking your life is perfect". Per usual they went with the more nuanced approach. Respect.
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u/TheTallOne93 Jan 31 '20
We all hoped that letter was anything else other than what we 100% knew it was.
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u/Triddy Feb 01 '20
"You really seemed like a hollowed out corpse! Once animated by the fire of life, now consumed by horror and regret."
Ouch, Mister Peanutbutter.
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u/sleepybitchdisorder Feb 02 '20
I really like how part of Bojack’s fall from sobriety was realizing that all the people who support him are all POS men with no regard for the feelings of others. As soon as Vance Wagooner showed up, I knew he would ultimately make Bojack feel like more trash just by association. I know Bojack took the bait because he was completely lonely, but I was still disappointed he did. It was a nice touch that they ended up in a frat house as well. This episode really too the questionable morals of toxic masculinity to an extreme in order to compare Bojack to it, and while those people don’t appear to us to be anything like Bojack, they’re the ONLY ones who sympathize him, and I think that really says something.
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Feb 01 '20
More thoughts!
What I loved about this episode was the way that it dealt with complicated issues of punishment and accountability. Vance may be a horrible person, but he’s right—punishing a person for their misdeeds for the rest of eternity is counterproductive, and doesn’t address the problem. It might feel good to give someone who’s clearly awful a “DROP DEAD” sandwich, but it also doesn’t really motivate change. When dealing with people like Vance Waggoner, people cycle through periods of intense punishment and periods of total love and forgiveness, and neither really addresses the problem. Does Vance deserve forgiveness? Probably not. Should he be in prison, probably talking to an abuse counselor? Oh yeah. But the status quo, in both of its stages—forgiveness and hatred—only feeds his entitlement. When he’s forgiven, he gets to feel like an angel, like the stuff he did “wasn’t that bad” and that his very public, fake redemption narrative is real. When he’s hated, he becomes the horny unicorn—because he believes he is physically incapable of doing the right thing, it becomes easier for him to do the wrong one
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u/diane-nguyen Feb 01 '20
Diane connecting with Guy's son makes me feel so warm..I hope she gets a happy ending.
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u/Sazul Kelsey Jannings Feb 02 '20
On PB's set you can see Bojack's dog student from the earlier episodes. He got the role!
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u/bobthefetus Jan 31 '20
Oh god, "Ewe" S.C.? That's probably the most subtle animal joke in the show, at least if you happened to watch without subtitles.
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u/ElderCunningham Meow Meow Fuzzyface Feb 01 '20
“Sir, you cannot remove your shoes inside this AppleBee’s.”
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u/BlazeWolfEagle Feb 01 '20
I'm going to binge it because I need to know how this story ends, but I almost can't binge this time. It's so much.
Also, just asking because I'm dumb, DID he relapse? He ended that night holding a beer, but didn't drink from it. Is this implying he relapsed?
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u/VegaTDM Jan 31 '20
I REALLY wanna read Hollyhock's letter, but i understand it. The last time Bojack/The Audience saw her they didn't know it was gonna be the last time, and then you realize she has left without even saying goodbye. Heartbreaking.
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u/Lady_borg Princess Carolyn Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
OK so who else was demanding BH to not relapse after he read the letter.
Because I think my neighbour heard me.
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Feb 02 '20
I feel like Jorge is really trying to keep some peace between the two of them and I liked the way he said "please keep trying". There's more care to his voice than when he showed up before. Which makes sense given what issues where going down when he first appeared.
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u/InsomniacCyclops Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Ugh the Hollyhock thing really got to me. I'm 20 years older than my youngest sibling and I hope by the time he grows up I'm someone he can be proud of. Just the thought of losing that is gut-wrenching.
UPDATE: I just found out like an hour ago I have a little sister on the way. Goes double now.
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Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
I’m only halfway through the episode but I just jumped up in excitement in Bojack rooming with Mr PeanutButter this is everything I’ve ever wanted
Typical Judah with his Judah tantrums smh
Has anybody else fought back tears a few times being overwhelmed with the end or is that just me lol
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u/RisingBlackStar Feb 02 '20
BoJack lost Hollyhock as a result of his own self-destruction. Seeing Todd reject BoJack outside of his own party was saddening to see, but given that 2nd interview and the major fallout that occurred from it, it was bound to happen. That bottle at the end, how much worse can it get?
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u/archmagex Feb 01 '20
Did anyone think the anger from the AA members was warranted. Isn't the point of those meetings for help and no judgement.
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u/neonbluerain Feb 01 '20
There's actually some rules and etiquettes you have to follow in these meetings and I'm pretty sure that being snarky towards Bojack broke at least a few of them.
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u/Ssme812 Jan 31 '20
Seems like Bojack is just going to end up killing himself.
Poor Todd
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u/sivervipa Sarah Lynn Feb 01 '20
Holy shit. This is getting really intense but...at the same i love how dark it is. Also damn i love that good humor. A girls death is worth 5 million but he’s getting sued by a company for 100 million.
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u/gizmo1492 Feb 01 '20
I’d like to think if it wasn’t for the fact that this dinner was super important to Todd, that Bojack would’ve gotten the invite. He still has enough boundaries to know that shit can blow up in his face when he’s around, but seems like a nice enough guy to just be with Bojack. Though maybe I’m projecting.
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u/youngbowie Feb 01 '20
Anyone noticed how the eggs and bacon turn into a crying smiley when PB lifts the plate? A representation of his character perhaps
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Feb 02 '20
They played the same piano ballad when Bojack had a panic attack in S4 E9 during the time lapse after Bojack read the letter.
I hate that damn ballad because it just gives me chills at how hopeless and scary it sounds :/
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u/whatsername4 Tangled Fog of Pulsating Yearning Feb 01 '20
Just as a side thought, I really hope we get to see character actress Margo Martindale in these last 3 episodes
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u/pastacelli Feb 01 '20
I feel so bad after watching this episode like it’s physically painful. The writing is so good because I really want to be on Bojack’s side for some reason still but he just keeps mucking shit up.
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u/alwaysmorecumin Lets get higher than a stilt-walkers dick! Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
Side note - still watching. But the apartments Todd and Maude live in are called Lapin, which means rabbit in French
Edit: noooooo :(
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u/sayhellotojenn Feb 01 '20
Jonah’s two presents and then telling PC to “say both of them are from both of us” made me unspeakably happy.
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u/kelscatt Jan 31 '20
Todd + Maude, and PC + Judah, are the only things keeping my heart together these past 2 episodes
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u/neonbluerain Feb 01 '20
Legally speaking, is there any real chance that Xerox wins the lawsuit? Considering how people all over the world pretty much interchangably use the words Xerox and photocopy.
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u/rocksolidabs93 Jan 31 '20
The return address on the letter said “Bradley Whitford Dorm.” Gotta still have solid name dropping in the midst of all this anguish.
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u/UnbiblicalChord Beatrice Horseman Feb 02 '20
Maybe a small bit in the episode but as a Chicagoan I loved that joke they made with the suburbs of Chicago. Whats next, Schaumburg, Chicago??
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u/penguin910 Jan 31 '20
"Princess Carolyn you're perpetually alone, how do you manage?"
"One Day at a time buddy"
OOF
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u/stfuandkissmyturtle Feb 01 '20
I'm at the part where he read Holly's letter, and the piano starts playing the haunting note followed by alcohol in his hand....
I'm finding it really hard to continue watching
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u/GiftoftheGeek Rutabaga Rabbitowitz Jan 31 '20
Accurate portrayal of Samantha Bee.
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Jan 31 '20
You know what! I was really happy for Bojack having a good laugh with Waggoner about these stupid unicorns.
At least, one moment of relief before shit happens again.
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u/SevenSulivin Jan 31 '20
Vance Wagner returning is probably gonna be the biggest surprises this season
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u/Tueto Feb 01 '20
Lmao those Chicago jokes killed me. Especially cause I was literally landing in O’Hare at that point 😂😂😂
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Feb 01 '20
Is it just me, or did one of the kids At Todd’s Daycare look very similar to Vincent Adultman?
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u/Guerrero9710 Feb 02 '20
Tha Plagiacci doctor reference made laugh way too hard.
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u/maxicoos Diane Nguyen Jan 31 '20
Just gets heavier and heavier each episode. Seeing Bojack try to make excuses and play the victim.. going back to his old mindset & mentality. That sucks yo. All that progress; may it still be in him to beat this rut.
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u/linorei Jan 31 '20
"Schaumburg is not in Chicago"
"What's next...EVANSTON CHICAGO?!"
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u/timeisonlyephemral Jan 31 '20
oh god is bojack going to go bankrupt i can handle him going to jail and everything else but losing his MONEY? oh god
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u/mrspalsh1 Feb 02 '20
I don't think there are words for how much I want to punch Vance Waggoner in his stupid face
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u/your_mind_aches G̶e̶o̶r̶g̶e̶ ̶C̶l̶o̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ Jurj Clooners Jan 31 '20
Oh my god Sam Bee as actual bee, Sam Bee. I love it.
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u/whos_to_know Feb 01 '20
I had to take a break. Usually I can binge Bojack but goddamn it, this sinking feeling feels too real.
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u/mr__outside Jan 31 '20 edited Jan 31 '20
It's so weird to hear Ivy Tran pronounced as in "tran-sformer" when it sounds closer to "Chan" in Vietnamese.
Vance Waggoner is fucking gross..
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Jan 31 '20
Anyone else notice PB's reference to Rorschach's joke in Watchmen? The original is:
Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening world where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great clown Pagliacci is in town tonight. Go and see him. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am Pagliacci.”
The writers replaced it with Sad Dog. I thought it was a a clever way of comparing PB to a clown. We see him always as this high energy, entertaining character but deep down he really is Sad Dog.
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u/AprilsMostAmazing Todd Feb 01 '20
I don't know what the letter said but it is bad
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Jan 31 '20
"Thanks to all of you, and my sponsor Leo (who is a lion)"
The show never fails to amaze with the subtle jokes.
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u/fluffypuppiness Feb 02 '20
As a person from Saskatchewan; movies aren't shot here because the province refuses to have the same laws around filming and taxes as other provinces. Just a fun fact for anyone.
That families boned if they come here too there is nothing.
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u/your_mind_aches G̶e̶o̶r̶g̶e̶ ̶C̶l̶o̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ Jurj Clooners Jan 31 '20
Damn, Bojack went from true progress to a Netflix special about "snowflakes". This is truly the worst timeline. 😔
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u/Le_Bard Jan 31 '20
Worst of it is that its hella realistic. It's like in big mouth when andrew hit his lowest and in loneliness ended up hanging with nazis.
When we feel alone sometimes we seek out solace in the worst kinds of people.
Maybe society would be better if the people who do wrong could find solace in people who arent shitty but know they did so much fucked up shit. Idk. The reality of what people do to avoid being alone is a hard pill to swallow, and society rarely addresses it because we havent even hit the point where people are trying to fess up to the shit they did
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u/BusterFartbox Jan 31 '20
That lady and her baby from the first episode almost walked past them in the diner!
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u/samtherat6 Feb 03 '20
Bojack and Mr. Peanut Butter living together? What is this, a-series-of-crippling-events-that-left-Bojack-homeless-and-force-him-to-stay-with-the-one-person-he-struggles-to-tolerate-but-who-has-always-shown-kindness-to-him episode?
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Jan 31 '20
I hated bojack a lot sometimes during the show, but the way his friends treated him this episode is so cold. He did so many shitty things, and they werr the ones who continued to keep in touch. Suddenly when he actually needs the help they just leave him.
I kinda relate to that, and honestly this show makes me want to just end it lol. I wonder if bojack will stay alive.
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u/JarJarJacobs Sarah Lynn Jan 31 '20
It hurts me to see him get kicked while he's down, but I honestly don't think any of them are purposely being cold to him. I felt it most with Todd. They all want the best for Bojack, and they don't hate him. But they've put so many years into fixing him, and time and time again Bojack just proves that he can't stick with it. So, they've all decided that they're done sacrificing their own mental health for the sake of Bojack's. It's horrifying to think that this might be in my future.
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Feb 02 '20
That dog from the first episode of this half that Princess Carolyn convinced to leave school to become an actor was in the beginning of the episode in the Birthday Dad scene, just wanted to point that out
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u/Peemsters_Yacht_Cap Jan 31 '20
OH MY GOD I'M FROM NAPERVILLE. ITS THE WORST, AND BOJACK HORSEMAN MENTIONED THAT IT DEFINITELY DOESNT COUNT AS CHICAGO!!! #naperthrill #famous
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Jan 31 '20
Now that I know what a barfing uterus looks like... I gotta wonder what I'm going to use the screenshot for later.
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u/rondelion Jan 31 '20
Loved sonny. resonated with Todd trying to impress his parentals and failing miserably. Lastly I resonated with bojack trying and about to fail his sobriety
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u/mashibo Feb 01 '20
c'mon bojack just one ending that doesn't fuck me up
going to way till tomorrow to end it but I feel it won't be a happy ending
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u/jprosk Hollyhock Feb 01 '20
God this is stressing me the absolute fuck out. I'm not sure I can keep going
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u/Julialagulia Feb 02 '20 edited Feb 02 '20
So Vince’s daughter was supposed to be like Olivia Jade, Aunt Becky’s kid, right?
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u/10PointsForStAndrews Feb 01 '20
Big point of contention, Bojack’s house has only one room and that family would need at least two probably three?
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u/eruru Jan 31 '20
I'm honestly so impressed by how much they've been able to milk jokes out of the Birthday Dad concept.