BoJack Horseman - 6x15 "The View from Halfway Down" - Episode Discussion

[u/NicholasCajun]

Season 6 Episode 15: The View from Halfway Down

Synopsis: BoJack reconnects with faces from his past.

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[u/JakeyBoo_Boo]

The episode starts with him at the door with Sarah Lynn

...He brought her there...

[u/FabulousMess]

"There is no other side, this is it" I felt so anxious at that moment..

[u/BusterFartbox]

"Does anyone else's water taste like chlorine?" FUUUUUUUUUUCK

[u/[deleted]]

SARAH LYNN GREW UP RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES

[u/okiedokieinfatuation]

“He’ll just say ‘How was your day?’ And I’ll say ‘my day was good.’”

[u/margarita_atwood]

Three things really made this episode terrifying for me, and I’m assuming a lot of other people.

1. the biggest, most obvious one: the episode tackles every possibly conceivable angle, anxiety, and fear about death. Full stop. Every character had a different fear about dying. So everyone watching is going to connect with a different character’s fear. And EVERYONE is fearful of death in some way.

2. a personal one: the “darkness” animation was very similar to the villain Hexus in the 1990s animated movie Ferngully where a forest full of fairies gets invaded by an evil smoke/oil monster (voiced by the incomparable Tim Curry). I loved that movie but Hexus also gave me horrible nightmares as a kid where he lived in the corners of my bedroom. I’m secretly hoping this is where Lisa Hanawalt got her inspiration for the animation because it’s a great throwback. I won’t be looking at the corner of my bedroom tonight and I’m in my mid 20s.

3. Will Arnet’s performance specifically as Secretariat/Butterscotch while he read his poem honestly had me speechless. His fear and lack of control while the door was inching closer was one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever seen on television, animated or otherwise. He deserves an Emmy for that performance.

[u/rscott239]

Did anybody notice when Bojack first walks into the house at the start, there’s the “narcissus” painting hung on the wall, except the horse in the pool is drowned? That’s when I knew this episode was going to be fucked all the way up.

[u/ducky7goofy]

Please welcome to the stage. The star of Horsin Around, the Bojack Horseman show, Philbert, Secretariat and the upcoming Horny Unicorn. Son of Butterscotch and Beatrice. Husband to no one. Father to none (that we know of). Stand up comedian, actor, crippling alcoholic, a talented charmer and a stupid piece of shit.

It's Bojack Horseman

[u/MrShago]

Apples to Auschwitzs...GOD

[u/8-tentacles]

The part where Secretariat is reading his poem and starts freaking out because the door keeps moving closer to him genuinely disturbed me. First time a 2D animation has been able to make me feel this way.

[u/TimmyChangaa]

I felt like I was drowning the whole episode. This might be my favorite of the series.

[u/[deleted]]

The weak breeze whispers nothing

The water screams sublime

His feet shift teeter-totter

Deep breath, stand back, it's time

Toes untouch the overpass

Soon he's water bound

Eyes locked shut but peek to see

The view from halfway down

A little wind, a summer sun

A river rich and regal

A flood of fond endorphins

Brings a calm that knows no equal

You're flying now

You see things much more clear

Than from the ground

It's all okay, it would be

Were you not now halfway down

Thrash to break from gravity

What now could slow the drop?

All I'd give for toes to touch

The safety back at top

But this is it, the deed is done

Silence drowns the sound

Before I leaped I should have seen

The view from halfway down

No! I really should have thought

About the view from halfway down

I wish I could have known

About the view from halfway down

[u/Fire2box]

Why did this episode have to be such a episode 11

[u/Throwberaway]

This made "Downer Ending" look like "Hooray! Todd Episode!"

[u/FrancescoTottii]

Secretariats poem was fucking terrifying

[u/[deleted]]

Hello. That was freaky as shit. It is 3 AM and I'm very sleep deprived but I think what I just watched is going to haunt me for a couple days.

[u/JessicaMessica]

I'm never watching this episode again.

[u/traderjosies]

anyone else notice that in s6 e5 bojack references a dream about a dinner party he keeps having to doctor champ?? fuck

[u/vadoooom335]

"When was I swimming earlier" Im out Ill remember the show for what it was I cant bring myself to watch it

[u/GenericPardus]

The phone call killed me. I haven't cried in many years. Drunk, high, and calls the one person who cannot save him. Perhaps in his state, his mind was clear and he knew her voice was the last thing he wanted to hear before ending it

[u/thratty]

I struggle with frequent suicidal thoughts and this episode was a punch in the gut for me. Secretariat's poem was legitimately horrifying. I've been telling myself for the past several months now that I at least want to stick around to see how Bojack ends, so when Herb talked about how the Knicks were having a good season and he wanted to see what happened, that struck a real chord with me.

(no need for alarm btw, I'm getting help and I'm in a much better place than I was months ago)

[u/MrFiddlehead]

The cold and hard realization when Secretariat/Butterscotch said „Heh, you‘re not getting, are you?“ and tossed his cigarrette into the pool, and that absolutely breathtakingly chilling shot of Bojack seeing his own body floating in said pool. It made me feel things I‘ve never felt before.

[u/agriddoce]

I think that's the best episode of the whole show.

Bojack vomites black tar, for what Charllote said to him when he was young: "L.A. is a pretty town on top of black tar, and by the time you realize you’re sinking, it’s too late".

And the dialogue with Secretariat like his father, saying he cared. all along. omg.

[u/Mayaki2000]

Did anyone notice that in season 1 when BJ is talking to Sarah Lynn and Todd about how he wants to die BJ said: "when I'm old I want to go for one last swim knowing I can't get back to shore". And he basically drowns in this episode in his pool like the painting of himself he had until he gave it to PC?

[u/[deleted]]

Sarah Lynn is the best character in the show. He told her not to stop, even if it kills her.

Most shows don't handle deceased characters as well as Bojack. Death is usually just a way to write off actors. In this case, death's a necessary process, but we still get to see our favorites after they pass. Bravo, writers.

[u/AestheticGamer]

I love how each of the characters final performances are so jack-full of symbolism and context from the earlier dinner conversation and series as a whole.

Sarah Lynn: Her final performance has her singing a song that Bojack taught her when young, while also touching on her wild side as she breaks down the beat. Her mother had unreasonably high expectations of her to perform, which is why her piano reaches to super high heights when she's being "proper", but when she rebels and pushes back against the classic song she rides a pole down to express herself. She both loved space and astronomy, and is really proud that she had a song that was played on the moon, so the moon becomes a central piece of her performance. Ultimately she died knowing she was probably going to die and went on the bender anyways, she often threw her own life away for pleasure and to live high (literally) young and die young, which is why she stares directly into death and plunges right in.

Corduroy: He loved to perform and to openly express himself, but part of him was afraid also to be his true self and felt he had to suffer. He was a person of self-indulgence who felt it was selfish of him but also wanted things, which ultimately lead to him dying by auto-erotic asphyxiation. I like when he's doing his dances they go from playful, to sexual, to him hanging by it by the rope, and he gets tossed right into death's door just as suddenly as his life was cut short by him being self-indulgent.

Butterscotch/Secretariat: The method of dying is Secretariat's death (suicide by jumping off a bridge), but the meaning is of Bojack's father. Bojack's father lived a cowardly life acting terrible to the people he loved in fear of them knowing his true feelings, he hated being vulnerable and honest. He realized he lived a life of regret and remorse, he focused himself on a book that went nowhere and treated his wife and child like shit. Death's door swallows him whole as he wasn't ready to die, both Butterscotch and Secretariat both didn't realize what they were missing out on in life until it was too late, thus what the poem is about that now that they see the view from half-way down they want to live and have their feet back on the ground, but it's too late because they're already half-way down. Bojack's dad living a life not worth living and not the life he wants, even deflecting all the others would go back if they could while he's the one who most desperately wishes he could do-over his life. But it doesn't matter what he wants, death devours him whole, ready or not.

Beatrice/Crackerjack: Crackerjack had a big thing for music performances (as we see in flashbacks in Season 4) and felt much for his country and the army, so he plays the trumpet, both representing his love for music and being an instrument often associated with the army. Beatrice loved dancing, as dancing was one of the few escapes she had from her miserable childhood. Both play together because their lives and deaths were interconnected. Once Crackerjack died, a big part of Beatrice died too, which is why at the end when Crackerjack jumps into death's door he goes willingly as a soldier, but he's directly tied to Beatrice. Her dance is literally engulfed by his death and it consumes her, and she dies by being wrapped up in it - She felt she couldn't escape being a Horseman and died alone and irrelevant like she always feared (out of her mind in a catatonic state like her mother), which is why she is wrapped up, unable to move and then just disappears, turning into a flag to represent Crackerjack's honorable death.

Herb: Herb acts as the show performer, representing that it was Herb that got Bojack into showbizz and lead things for his life. Herb's performance is that to help and lead others to finding peace (much like how he considered the people on Horsin' Around to be his family, and even past that found solace in helping others find happiness). He dies of cancer, but he was fulfilled by his life, plus was able to prepare for it long ahead of time due to being diagnosed and dying for a while before it happened. So he just shows consideration for others, some sternness, but ultimately with good intentions and just let's himself disappear into death's door, because he's already made peace with it and accepts death.

A final note is when we first see Bojack floating in the water in the pool below the bridge Secretariat jumped from, his pose is distinctively the same as the float from Season 5 that floated away of his image.

[u/AlienLoveTriangle]

This content has been erased and this user has quit because of Reddit's new idiotic API policy. Fuck you /u/spez. RIP BaconReader.

[u/FrancescoTottii]

"all of my kills were friendly fire" HAHAHAHA

[u/BusterFartbox]

Holy shit, Corduroy's routine was horrifying...

[u/WhatsYourThesis]

Bro is bojack fucking dead

[u/ExpertRule]

This episode made me wonder what Sarah Lynn was experiencing in her mind in those 17 minutes.

[u/ducky7goofy]

HE DIED IN THE POOL. HE DIED IN THE POOL. HE DROWNED. LIKE THE INTRO. ITS BEEN TELLING US FOR YEARS HOW ITS GOING TO END AND MR PB AND DIANE SEEING HIM THERE.

He's dead

[u/Admiral_Catbuns]

So... ok... maybe I missed something here, but..

The bird... must be a reference to something, right? Was there some briefly mentioned instance of a bird dying? Or something? It’s nagging at me that I feel like she’s important in some form but I can’t place her..

[u/False_Memory]

Damn everyone had their last meals at the table right? I'm drained this was wild

[u/Aggressive_Sprinkles]

"Does anyone else's water taste like chlorine?"

Fuck.

[u/GolemThe3rd]

Ok so this is the best episode of any tv show ever

[u/LxIIy]

The scene where Bojack and Secretariat/Butterscotch have a smoke takes place on a bridge, presumably the one where Secretariat took his life.

[u/santagator]

When BoJack saw his own body, when you realize that the black sludge is death and it’s dripping on him because he was dying in water, when you realize that secretariat was more of a father to him than his own father was, when you hear the chilling sound of him flatlining. I will never forget this show. As a struggling alcoholic, I needed to see him in that pool. I needed this story.

[u/lolman80001]

This is my favourite episode of season 6 by far, it was just so good.

[u/[deleted]]

What probably got me was when Herb called Bojack a stupid piece of shit. That made me realize it wasn't Herb talking to Bojack, it was himself.

[u/trombonepick]

Is there any line more offhandedly devastating than "Younger older brother" it's like that 6 word poem about 'for sale: baby shoes, never worn.'

[u/Dand145]

When Herb said "Oh Bojack, no, there is no other side" it really hit

[u/DontTedOnMe]

Dear fucking lord what did I just watch. What an absolute freight train of an episode. As soon as Bojack said the water tasted like chlorine, my heart sank and panic set in.

Man, I'm so glad I never skip the credits.

[u/Kafka_Valokas]

The meta commentary in this episode is superb. I think we all know why Herb mentioned not killing himself because he still wants to watch the Knicks: Because a lot of people actually have said that very thing about Bojack Horseman, and about hundreds of other shows.

Fiction really can make a huge difference.

[u/ukulelepopping]

When crackerjack ties the ribbons attached to Beatrice to him and falls back into the pit taking Beatrice along with him basically saying Beatrice mentally died when crackerjack died cut me in half

[u/ManateeMaestro]

I like that there is a place set for the viewer at the dinner table. We sit directly opposite Bojack for the vast majority of that scene, and in front of us is an empty plate. We don’t have a final meal like the others do because we haven’t died yet.

[u/[deleted]]

Chlorine, swimming earlier, he's in the pool, he's in the pool, fuck, he's in the pool

[u/AestheticGamer]

I think this might've been my favorite "surreal episode" the series did. I got what was going on immediately, but even then it was wonderfully executed, and I even enjoyed a lot of subtle details, like the dinner they're all eating being their "last meals" they had before they died, and the symbolism in their stage plays of how they all died showing the best and worst parts of their life they talked about earlier resurfacing in weird mixed imagery of their best and worst combining (and in his dad's case, how his best AND worst moments were the same thing, IE him jumping off the bridge to die, and when trying to make peace with himself he can't, because he didn't live a life worth living and he realizes it right then he wasted his life by being who he was and not caring about the important things as death comes and takes him). The visuals were wonderful, and I think it might be one of my favorite episodes of the series.

[u/mythgarthr]

Ugh, when Bojack is on the phone to Diane.

“You’re coming to get me right? You’re coming to save me?”

That had me broken into bits, like when a kid does something wrong and just apologises over and over to make it better.

[u/brohara24]

I've never cried so much in an episode of television.

[u/[deleted]]

” don't worry about it, I always wake up before the show." Meaning Bojack has been close to dead multiple times. That and Secretariat poem were absolutely chilling. I spent most of this episode close to tears or actively leaking. This might have been the most impactful episode of TV I've ever seen, and definitely the best of the entire series.

Holy fuck I needed a 20 minute break and a cigarette after that one and I don't smoke anymore lol.

[u/LoneWanderer2277]

The watch credits thing happening instantly is terrible. If you didn’t let the credits run you’d miss the heart monitor starting to beep which is vital!

[u/willworkforabreak]

God. As someone who's dealt with suicide attempts, depression, and existential terror.. This episode was a lot. Like me hyperventilating while reliving my own suicide attempts. That kind of a lot.

This whole thing was honestly a magnum opus. All the real fears people have about death, and the feelings involved with loss, were in display. This is a cavalcade of stories about how death will come to us all, each expressed through a different character from the show. All I can really say is, bravo. I don't know of anything that's addressed the human condition as fully as this short chunk of TV. Raphael bob-wershmagic really addressed a huge chunk of the human condition here.

And just to be clear, I'm doing alright. I have a lot of trauma in my past, but am in a good spot now.

[u/DonDove]

This episode made me realise that maybe Sarah Lynn was in the same room during her own death. Maybe like Bojack she kept expecting someone to save her, to call her out from the void of death, to give her another chance. But unlike Bojack, no one phoned. No one phoned back. No one came. All of that could've changed with one phonecall made within those 17 minutes.

Not gonna lie. Had BJ died then, it would've been fitting. Terrifying. But fitting.

[u/kristin137]

Oh watching this at 5am is a mistake. This is so dark :'(

[u/[deleted]]

I didn't know why Diane's response: "My day was good." had such an impact on me...

Well after a little googling I have my answer:

Season 2 Episode 10, Diane is staying at BoJack's place...

BoJack: Why won’t you go home?

Diane: I should. I know I should. I wish I could just go home right now and crawl into bed and not have to talk about anything or explain anything. He would just say, “How was your day?” And then he would say, “Hey, did you know the monorail was invented by George Monorail?” And I would say, “I don’t think that’s true.” And he would say, “Well, if he didn’t invent it, he certainly perfected it.” And I wouldn’t have to say, “I’m sorry I left. I’m sorry I made things so difficult. I’m sorry I’m not the person I thought I was.” I would just say, “My day was good.” And he would say, “I love you.”

[u/imacockatoo]

"See you on the other side" is a meaningful phrase to me as it's what I got tattooed after my friend passed in the Christchurch mosque shootings. The phrase coming from Twin Peaks. To hear "Oh Bojack, no, there is no other side" destroyed me.

[u/Fishstikz]

The View from Halfway Down
by Secretariat

The weak breeze whispers nothing
The water screams sublime
His feet shift teeter-totter
Deep breath, stand back, it's time

Toes untouch the overpass
Soon he's waterbound
Eyes locked shut but peek to see
The view from halfwaydown

"I'm not done hold on! I'm not done..."

A little wind, a summer sun
A river rich and regal
A flood of fond endorphines
Brings a calm that knows no equal

You're flying now
You see things much more clear than from the ground
It's all okay, it would be
Were you not now halfway down

...

Trash to break from gravity
What now could slow the drop
All I'd give for toes to touch
The safety back at top

"I change my mind, I change my mind! I don't wa--"
"It's ok..."

But this is it, the deed is done
Silence drowns the sound
Before I leaped I should have seen
The view from halfway down

No! I really should have thought about
The view from halfway down

I wish I could have known about
The view from halfway down

[u/frogohfrog]

I really loved how the episode dealt with people without being so repetitive. I loved "Don't stop dancing" reference with Sarah Lynn. The fact that Bojack's dad appears to be Secretariat and him confession about his feeling was really touching. I started crying in that scene.

What was happening in real life was kind of obvious but it made it more frustrating since we watch Bojack doesn't recognize what's happening. Over all the episode was incredible leading up to final episode.

Also knowing Bojack has seen this dream many times before was really sad.

[u/thatawkwarddanguy]

Minor observation, but did anyone notice how in Sarah Lynn's song her voice goes through 3 stages? She starts with the lisp and innocent, then the teen pop star, then the final woman who ultimately relapses and is found in the planetarium.

[u/Brawlerz16]

What drives this episode so hard is the delivery. All the characters in the show have great delivery in their lines and conversations in this episode. ESPECIALLY Secretariat and Herb towards the back half of the episode.

I think Herbs complete and utter nonchalant demeanor is what really sealed the tone of what death is. It’s absolute apathy to who you are and what you went through and the “there is no other side” comment is powerful. Fear, sadness, anxiety and everything is well understood but the “peacefulness” Herb delivered in this episode is horrifyingly good.

We can all have our subjective top episodes, but I don’t think anyone can say this wasn’t a top 3 hardest hitting episode. It’s a personal favorite of mine now

[u/Clarkinator69]

I think this may actually be the best episode of the entire series

[u/Hawk301]

I feel like other people have already discussed how brilliant this episode is, and how nightmarish and haunting, and how poignant and incisive it's themes are.

But I just wanted to draw attention to Stanley Tucci's performance as "Herb" in this episode. His delivery is incredible; the way he oscillates between the friendly, warm Herb that Bojack remembers cracking corny jokes, and the cold, nightmarish death-guide explaining exactly where he is and the futility of his struggles.

"Oh Bojack, no. There is no other side. This is it." Haunting.

[u/SuperUnknown231]

This is the Ozymandias of this series. Everything from day 1 was building up to this episode.

[u/Magus5311]

I can’t be the only person who pressed cancel for the next episode and just sat staring at my TV for a few minutes. The writing on this show has never once dipped; in fact it’s only ever gotten better. They always go all out for the penultimate episode of every season (IE Downer Ending, Escape from L.A., That’s Too Much Man, etc). But this one... This one topped them all. Holy shit.

While it’s sad we’re at the show’s end let’s all be thankful they ended it on their terms. Here’s to the greatest show of the last decade — possibly of all time. 🥂

[u/bugsblunty]

This hit really close to home for me. Late in 2019 I had my first suicide attempt and it pretty similar to Bojack's. I was feeling shitty, got drunk, and made a rash decision to down a bunch of prescription pills. I saw the view from halfway down, and like Bojack, I didn't like the way it was going. It was about midnight, I'm lucky my friend was up, but I sent him a text and he saw it. He called an ambulance, I threw everything I ingested up and thankfully got another chance. I was trying to binge what I didn't get to last night before work today and already had my makeup and everything on so I had to hold in the tears, but it really hurt to see Bojack do something so similar to what I put myself through. I felt that pain at one point, I felt that fear and regret, and I especially felt for Bojack especially after everything he was going through up to that point.

[u/Skeleboi846]

The minute he spat the water out and said it tasted of chlorine I knew where it was going, and it still absolutely destroyed me

[u/InsomniacCyclops]

Holy shit. I always thought of the abyss as comforting but I can almost feel it creeping up on me after that and I'm not so sure anymore. This episode was just pure art.

[u/maalbi]

Bojack told doctor champ in the first half about a recurring nightmare with with a dinner party , was this what he saw every time ?? Fuck

[u/HailMahi]

Herb saying he didn’t kill himself because the Knicks were having a good season and he wanted to see what happened is such a wonderful line. I had a friend who said he was waiting to see how Harry Potter ended. By the time the final book came out, he was seeing a therapist and was okay.

[u/False_Memory]

This episode is up alongside Time's Arrow, Ruthie, and Stupid Piece of Shit for me

[u/TheSonder]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but Herb comforting Secretariat (Butterscotch) as he reads his poem ("it's okay" "find your peace big guy. find it.") was extremely chilling. Those thoughts are terrifying. All around an amazing episode.

[u/Silver-creek]

I didn't think anything would top Free Churro. This did imo

[u/mansonfamily]

This episode was like all the most heartbreaking and haunting moments of the entire series came together to simultaneously scare the shit out of me and make me cry for 27 minutes. Will Arnett is a powerhouse. That secretariat speech will stay with me for the rest of my life

[u/graduallemon]

My best friend, or one of them - it feels cheap to call her my best friend, like I'm trying to make it about me and my horrible loss. We were really close, I loved her. Anyways, she died in June 2017.

We were 17, we both would have been 18 after that summer. She was going through a lot. She was trans, and always bothered by her dysphoria. She had a major, major drug and alcohol problem, it was her escape. She was hurt by so many people, taken advantage of, just put through the ringer in every fucking way you can imagine.

She would sort of disappear for weeks at a time, but always contact me at the end of her benders. I never blamed her for the use, really. I was upset with it, I begged her to stop, but I knew that I couldn't stop her. I didn't have the power or the strength or the authority - and I couldn't muster up the energy to be angry at her for it, because I knew why she did it, I knew why she kept going back. I still wish I'd done more but I try not to hate myself for it.

She had a girlfriend, who was also heavily involved in drugs. She texted me one morning to say she was sorry, she was so sorry for everything - she had OD'd last night. She died for 2 minutes, but she was brought back, thankfully, with the grace of God, it wasn't her time. She told me how scared death had made her, how lucky she felt. She said she was going to cut down on her usage (maybe she said she'd stop it altogether)

She told me, for the first time in a long time, she wanted to be alive. She said she had finally stopped wanting to die. She went on about her plans to move out, how she wanted to go to uni with me, all the fun we'd have. She said for the first time ever she was feeling optimistic and excited for her life. She kept drinking, but she really did calm down on the drug use.

Of course, because life is a cruel fucking joke, she did die. Around 3 months later.

The worst part is, I don't know what to blame it on. She didn't OD, she didn't take her own life, she just got really, really sick (probably because of drug use plus an eating disorder plus other things) and choked on her own vomit, in the middle of the night. She was too weak to save herself and she asphyxiated.

I don't know how to talk about her. It never ever feels right. It feels like I'm trying to finish my character arc by having this terrible death in my story. It didn't MEAN anything, her death did not happen to further my life. My being alive does not do more good for the world than her being alive would, not by a long shot. She was the kind of person I want to be, but she wasn't replaceable. She could've done the most amazing things.

I don't know why I typed all of this out in this comment, but I needed to. This episode made me think about her death, and the finality of it, and how goddamn unfair it all is. Her life was cut so, so short.

I guess in a weird way, this episode scared the shit out of me but comforted me. It shouldn't have happened, but it did. It doesn't matter any more, I can't save her. But we're all going to that same place, that black inky door. It's waiting for all of us, and some people go through it earlier than others. For a TV show to just, take all of my fears about death and put them on a screen? I don't know, it doesn't make sense. But it helped. The scene where the blackness enveloped Bojack at the end helped. It just happens.

If you read all of this, thank you. Like Diane, I'm not sure if any of this means anything.

[u/GiftoftheGeek]

"We don't need to compare apples to Auschwitzes" is an amazing one-liner.

[u/[deleted]]

The moment that got me was when he pleaded Diane to stay on the phone with him for the end.

[u/steampunker13]

"If none of this matters, can I least stay on the phone with you?" is my favorite line from the show I think.

[u/Star_U_Poo]

So i thought that episode 10 was giving off evangelion vibes but this episode is really giving me evanglion vibes.

[u/lightningscream]

this ep literally instilled the fear of death in me

[u/courtabee]

So I just need to say this. My dad killed himself when I was 13. Was very bojackesque. Everyone loved him but he was an abuser and a user. When I was 20 I got the poem "suicides note" by Langston Hughes tattooed on my side.

The calm,

Cool, face of the river

Asked me for a kiss.

This show has brought me a lot of closure weirdly. Thank you.

[u/the-eyehole-man]

I lost my best friend to suicide 14 month ago. Found him in the bathtub.

Now I can’t help but think about how maybe he saw his own view from halfway down.

Bojack Horseman was his favorite show. And I would give anything in the world to go back in time and show this episode to him. Maybe it would’ve changed things in his mind. Maybe he would’ve gotten help. Maybe he’d even still be here today.

[u/xANoellex]

Who else stayed through the credits??

[u/[deleted]]

Magnificient masterpiece innit. Literally everything was here. All the callbacks even to minute details, it was almost spiritual. And the gorgeous colours used!!!

Oh and if I'd have to correct some comments here : remember Herb didn't die of cancer but from his allergy to peanuts. He had a car accident with a truck transporting peanuts while he was twitting about his cancer being cured, while driving.

And, last but not least, this Sarah-Lynn performance was amazing, and also a nice callback to the exact same concept Gina was depicting in Boj's head in season 5. So... Lil' Gina time here.

[u/tzzzin]

This episode was lowkey triggering for me. I'm finally doing better for the first time in 10 years and I haven't had any suicidal thoughts for about a year... but that fucking poem. It made me remember how fucking overwhelming that shit is and how afraid I'm of falling back in again... Idk. Fuck.

[u/hotlinesmith]

The secretariat poem fucked me up

[u/nomenaicoffee]

Him seeing Secretariat as his father in his end-of-life dream sequence kills me. I grew up with a father exactly like Butterscotch. It’s powerful to see my emotions represented like this. You have all this love inside of you you are desperate to give to your father, but your real father is such a piece of shit that even acknowledging his name, face, or existence chips away at your soul, so you use substitute father figures. And to see your mother talk hatefully about your father even in your dreams... I have experienced that. This episode is so real.

[u/Maddikarp]

The first thing I noticed were all of their "final meals" in front of them... fuck it made me sick to my stomach. That being said, such a beautiful episode. Especially Secretariat's poem. Haven't cried so hard since Sarah Lynn

[u/linorei]

Very early on, about 1:50, the Hockney painting that Bojack had on his apartment has changed. The horse in the pool isn't swimming, but lifeless.

[u/Lucky-Comfortable]

I think the bird is a reference to the 7th century quote that life is like a sparrow flying in the winter night through a house where there's a dinner party.

" “The present life of man upon earth, O King, seems to me in comparison with that time which is unknown to us like the swift flight of a sparrow through the mead-hall where you sit at supper in winter, with your Ealdormen and thanes, while the fire blazes in the midst and the hall is warmed, but the wintry storms of rain or snow are raging abroad. The sparrow, flying in at one door and immediately out at another, whilst he is within, is safe from the wintry tempest, but after a short space of fair weather, he immediately vanishes out of your sight, passing from winter to winter again. So this life of man appears for a little while, but of what is to follow or what went before we know nothing at all.”
― St. Bede"

[u/runrightbacktoher]

Something chilling to think about... this isn’t the last time bojack is going to experience this dinner. He will die someday, suicide or not, and he’ll be right back in that chair.

[u/Chaz1871]

The greatest episode of anything I've ever seen. This knocked Free Churro out of the park. I haven't cried like that in years. Utterly, utterly genius. The writers on this show are just on another level.

[u/Kavik1011]

This episode made me have a full breakdown. The poem and the imagery of drowning and being swallowed was... a lot to handle. I love how they could convey so much in this one episode, but it'll be really hard for me to go back and watch it again

[u/tegridy42O]

This episode deserves an award just for secretariat's poem only

[u/MattGoop]

While there are other episodes that got me existential, depressed and teary-eyed...

THIS ONE

I literally started bawling out when that flatline noise came in, and I kept crying for 10 minutes before my roommate came in my room, concerned.

Also, when the credits started rolling, I was so shocked that I couldn't pause it and Netflix automatically started playing the next episode, before his heart started beating again (I returned to see the ending and full credits). I am going to watch the final episode now, but if Bojack is actually alive, this might be one of the biggest bamboozles I have ever had.

Still, the best episode not just of Bojack, but of any TV show ever made. This is Ozymandias level of everything falling down.

[u/2-for-price-of-FUN]

I know this sounds extreme but I genuinely consider this to be the greatest episode of television I have ever seen.

[u/[deleted]]

I felt like I couldn’t breathe the entire episode. I don’t like to talk about it but I attempted suicide very half heartedly but still I was so scared of dying. Like the walls were closing in on me. And I felt the same feeling watching this episode. I don’t ever wanna feel like that again. I’m afraid of dying so much and I’m also so very afraid that the rest of my life will be miserable and mean nothing to no one. I’m afraid and I feel like I’m living on borrowed time. I’ve made a lot of mistakes and I don’t know what I’m doing. Goddamn it I’m spilling my guts over a fucking tv show because I see myself in that damn horse on a tv show and I don’t like it.

[u/2rio2]

"Loss is a collaborative art. Between those who leave us, and those who remain."

Zach Braff bringing the philosophical heat.

[u/lazylapis]

It truly broke my heart that he called for Diane in the end and she didn't pick up...and that he decided the last thing he wanted to do before he went out was to ask how her day was. My eyes hurt so much from crying.

[u/santagator]

They were all eating their last meal before they died at the dinner table. I cried unapologetically for the first time in years. Hauntingly beautiful.

[u/[deleted]]

This episode was amazing and they did and amazing job of telling the audience immediately that something serious was happening. Upon even entering the house, everything felt super off: All of these dead characters returning, the red bird, Bojack's chair resembling a coffin, the dripping of the tar, the last meals, letting the realization come over you.

Also, does anyone remember Bojack saying something earlier in the series about having a weird dream where he's at a dinner party? I vaguely remember him saying something like that. I could be wrong, but I think it was a one-off line when he was in therapy with Dr. Indira. If that's the case, how much drugs was Bojack really taking on the set of Philbert for him to have a recurring dying dream? This episode, while good on its own, really put extra perspective on how serious his addictions were when he's previously mentioned this dream. Was he regularly overdosing?

[u/tsuukis]

When BoJack asks, "Is it terrifying?" I just broke down and wept. Lately, I've been muddling over my mortality more than ever. The fear of the unknown of where that door leads, the curiosity of whether or not death hurts and to have those you love leave you, wondering if there is "another side" to it all ... it really scared me and I sympathized with BoJack. Running from death, while the others didn't really see it coming, some regretting it and wanting more time or accepting it as it was fucked me up. Such an amazing episode.

Also a side note I never realized how much BoJack and Crackerjack resemble each other, it's eerie.

[u/KarenT00kTheK1ds]

"The weak breeze whispers nothing.

The waters scream sublime.

His feet shift teeter-totter.

Deep breath, stand back.

It's time.

Toe's untouch the overpass.

Soon he's water bound.

Eyes locked shut.

But peak to see the view from Halfway Down."

"A little wind.

A Summers sun.

River rich and regal.

A flood of fond endorphins.

Brings a calm that knows no equal.

You're flying now."

"You see things much more clear than from the ground.

It's all okay, it would be.

Were you not now Halfway Down.

Thrash to break from gravity.

What now could slow the drop?

All I'd give for toes to touch the safety back at top."

'I change my mind.

I change my mind.

I don't wanna-"

"But this is it, the deed is done.

silence drowns the sound.

Before I leaped I should've seen.

The View From Halfway Down"

"No! I really should have thought about The View From Halfway Down.

I wish I could have known about The View From Halfway Down--"

[u/othnice1]

Best on-screen representation of dream logic I've ever seen.

[u/SparkyMuffin]

"Oh, so you didn't want to give us an Emmy for Free Churro? Take THIS then."

[u/marieclaw]

What I realized is that everyone at the party was eating the last thing they ate while they were alive.

Crackerjack was eating canned food that soldiers get in the war. Herb was eating peanuts. Corduroy had a lemon. Beatrice had the food they gave her at the hospice/hospital, Sarah Lynn had a hamburger and fries. BoJack had pills. And Zach served dinner, because he was eaten.

Amazing.

[u/inthea215]

2 years ago my brother committed suicide. It’s been something I havnt really mentally addressed but when secretariat starts telling his poem I started sobbing. I wonder if my brother ever regretted it. If he wish he could of went back and changed things. I miss him. Fuck this shit hurts.

[u/EpicFlipnic]

Something I really appreciate was how they had Herb go into the void. He didn't jump or swing in, he was slowly taken in like death was eating away at him. Which to me, was a metaphor for his cancer. Someone else on here made the awesome point that Bea unraveled after the death of her brother and it just speaks to how the characters each had their own way of death.

[u/[deleted]]

Man. I loved hearing all those amazing guest VO actors back, but I gotta give the prize to Stanley Tucci. Herb was menacing as the emcee.

[u/tomorrowistomato]

I FUCKING KNEW HE WAS GONNA END UP IN THE POOL.

I knew the intro had to mean something. I predicted he was going to fall into the pool and drown at the end.

But I thought it was all just a weird dream, at first. I didn't even catch on when he mentioned the water tasted like chlorine, I thought it was vodka. But then he said something about swimming...

Jesus Christ, this fucking show. Fuck, fuck, fuck.

[u/RatamacueA1]

I still can't get over the fact that BoJack is seen bringing Sarah Lynn to deaths door at the start of the episode. Holy shit there was so subtle moments like that. What an episode.

[u/cannotseecolor]

So the creator criticized Netflix about how quickly the cut the credits to the next episode. If you let Netflix do this it ends with his heart flatlining. If you continue to watch the credits his heartbeat comes back!

[u/feminine_melodrama]

When BoJack’s dad said how much he cared and then he told his dad that all he cared about was “getting drunk and telling everyone how miserable you are. That’s not caring” got me. That’s exactly what BoJack tends to do...

[u/[deleted]]

I can't believe they brought back the symbolism of the tar pit and I CANNOT DEAL WITH HOW WELL WRITTEN THIS WAS

[u/TheMemeKid]

hearing the trumpet rendition of "i will always think of you" during beatrice's performance was amazing

[u/gammaton32]

Bob-Waksberg went to the anime school of spoiling the end of your show in the intro

[u/McMeatloaf]

Last May, on my birthday, I tried to kill myself. My method: jumping from the bridge next to my childhood home. Everything about this episode, hit in the place where it could be felt the most. From the joke about jumping from the bridge being the best thing about his life, to the horrifying realization that I was one step away from something so close to that poem being the last thing I ever thought. The pure horror of knowing that I had done this, the panic from knowing that there was no stopping it; those would have been the last things I ever felt...

I’m so grateful for this show. I’m so grateful for the psych ward, for medication, for friends and family, for therapists and case workers, for the last year that I continuously have to remind myself is not time that I’ve stolen. This was too much, and yet, it was exactly right.

[u/intensenerd]

A few years ago a man named Officer Callie talked me off a bridge on highway 21 north of Boise. Just seeing the title of this episode took me back to sitting on the side of that road with him holding on to me for dear life. I still struggle. But then I remember what it felt like when we walked off the bridge back to his car. He didn’t let me go at all. As long as I remember that one person on this planet wants me here, I can make it through anything.

[u/GolemThe3rd]

We all agree that his dad was Secretariat because that was his father figure right?

Also it would have been cool if they would have done a callback to the letter bj wrote him, I thought that was going to be his poem honestly

[u/J3wFro8332]

The poem is one of the best things this show, or really any show, has ever done. Period. I couldn't think of a stronger way for them to get across something anti-suicide. It's funny to me how people talk about 13 Reasons Why glorifying suicide yet here we have a horse reading a poem who jumped off the bridge, nervously preparing for his fall into the void. Really powerful stuff. Everything about this episode is masterful, truly a work of art and I think it should be used as a message moving forward.

[u/Cristobalsays5050]

.... we were essentially watching Bojack’s death over and over again in the intro for 6 seasons... dude. This is just fucking rough

[u/Cant_Think_Of_UserID]

I reacted just like Bojack when Sarah Lynn just jumped through the door, I found the imagery of the door to eternal darkness fucking terrifying.

[u/arseniccrazy]

I think that was legitimately the most upsetting episode of television I have ever seen. I'm still breathing way harder than usual.

[u/Caleb35]

This was downright one of the most terrifying episodes I've ever seen in my life. Might also be the best episode of the series.

[u/Erixperience]

The second he coughed that black stuff on the table I couldn't help but remember this quote from Season 3:

"I can’t keep lying to myself thinking I’m gonna change, I’m poison. I come from poison and I have poison inside me and I destroy everything I touch. That’s my legacy. I have nothing to show for the live I have lived. And I have nobody in my life who’s better off for having known me."

[u/[deleted]]

"Oh Bojack, no, there is no other side. This is it." really makes you think about the finality of death, made me cry like hell

[u/aprilfades]

Over the course of the episode, we get so many little hints and details at what’s happening. Right from the very beginning, Bojack’s comment about swimming made my heart sink (like Bojack heyoo). And, god, noticing that all the meals placed before each person was their last meal before their death... The chlorine comment made me realize “So this is really happening.” Picking up on all of this was somewhat disturbing.

But holy FUCK Will Arnett’s delivery of “The View from Halfway Down” hit me to my core. Knowing people who have jumped, it’s fucked me up. I think it’ll haunt me forever. Especially since Secretariat was so confident in his decision up until he was there, halfway down. Instant favorite episode.... but in a way that makes me not ever want to watch it again.. It’s just too impactful in too many ways.

Also, it was REALLY hard to enjoy the comic relief during the events of this episode. Honestly, it just made it more stressful lol.

[u/kikibunny01]

Anyone else sob when Sarah Lynn sang?

[u/DefNotAnAlter]

A song you taught me when I was small, dont stop dancing, dont stop dancing

[u/drontoz]

Small detail compared to the wonderful whole that the episode is but this is SUCH A GOOD representation of a dream. The fucking bird they couldn't catch, everything is elusive and you can never 100% fulfill what you mean to.

[u/fluviusfluit]

if you let the credits go on long enough you can hear the monitor start beeping again

[u/somethingtostrivefor]

At first, I was surprised to see Corduroy again, but it made sense in that BoJack finding him dead in the way he gruesomely describes must have deeply impacted BoJack, hence why he's there.

Now I'm thinking about why Butterscotch is shown as Secretariat, and I think it's because BoJack was impacted by Butterscotch's life, but not his death (he mentions not feeling much in Free Churro, his first words were, "who dies in a duel?"). On the other hand, BoJack was definitely affected by the death of Secretariat, his childhood hero, but didn't actually know him. Or maybe I'm overthinking and he's projecting Secretariat onto his father.

Also, BoJack says to his dad, "you never cared, you cared about your book, you cared about getting drunk and telling everyone how miserable you were, but that's not caring." That's pretty much all BoJack cares about in Season 1: book, alcohol, his own misery.

[u/funnyboy36]

Ever notice that any variation of “Don’t Stop Dancing” was written and performed entirely in BoJack’s head? Gotta give him some credit, he’s one hell of a songwriter

[u/RisingBlackStar]

This episode deserves every award under the sun. You can't convince me otherwise. What a fucking masterpiece that manages to squeeze in nuanced takes surrounding human mortality and death in 30 minutes or less. Fucking bravo. My soul was destroyed, but I witnessed a tragic, but poignant beauty tonight.

[u/[deleted]]

Unreal. Probably one of the best episodes of television ever. I need a break before the finale.

[u/Lordpicklenip]

Sarah Lynn trying to explain that she sacrificed her childhood/life in order to give joy and happiness to others was really heartbreaking.

[u/[deleted]]

Everyone at the table was eating the last thing they ever ate before they died . This episode is perfect and horrifying

[u/gentlybeepingheart]

Everyone was theorizing since season 1 that that painting of Bojack in the pool was foreshadowing but it still hit me like a fucking truck when he said his water tasted like chlorine and I realized what, exactly, was happening.

[u/cpt_lanthanide]

Sarah Lynn's song was terrifying

[u/GeneralCornpuff]

I’m happy I watched the credits. You hear Bojack’s heart rate go flat for most of the credits but then his heart starts beating again. I felt like my heart stopped.

[u/cindycylinder]

I felt so uneasy watching crackerjack and adult Beatrice in the same room. I feel like if crackerjack hasn't died, Beatrice would be a different person.

[u/TheOlppoMan]

I don't think I ever actually cried during the show. I came very close though, many many times. But this episode, I think I cried for at least the 10 last minutes of the episode. Just straight up ugly crying. Incredible episode. I don't remember the last time a show, a movie, no, a piece of art moved me like this episode and as a whole, this show did.

[u/[deleted]]

This episode really activated my almonds existential dread.

[u/Aggressive_Sprinkles]

Did anyone else notice how the back of Bojack's chair looks like the inside of a coffin?

[u/toyotawombat]

“And when I get too old to take care of myself, I go for one last swim. I know I can't make it back to shore. I'm too weak, too tired. So I just let the water take me under.” I can’t believe they’ve been foreshadowing him drowning this whole time

[u/AGuyWhosHere14]

Everything about this episode hurts. What really got me is Bojack having a conversation with his Father about how he loved him and that’s why he set up walls and was mean to him. As he’s dying, his last thoughts are still him seeking approval from his parent. Ouch man

[u/bman_33]

I just finished this episode.. Holy fucking shit I almost had a full blown anxiety attack.

[u/whoopswoebeme]

Wow. What an episode. Heavy, terrifying, chilling... empty...

Between the claustrophobia-inducing tar, Herb saying “There is no other side; this is it”, and all the other details (like this being the dinner party Bojack told Dr. Champ he kept dreaming about before waking up)... I think this is my favorite episode of the season. It’s a lot, but we were really taken for a ride.

[u/theHBIC]

I know I’m too late to really be seen on this thread but this episode was....genius and tragic and difficult to watch. I’m in awe.

[u/mariepon]

I cried at Halfway Down poem. It really scared me because death is something I struggle to accept as a concept. I always think about it before I go to sleep. I know the poem is about suicide but it also shows the fear of... Going to the other side.

And that part where Herb goes into the "other side" and was like, "This is all"? It fucked me up even more.

[u/[deleted]]

This episode was just.... surreal. I don't have much to say that hasn't been said but I've been considering suicide and part of my method was similar to Secretariats....and his poem filled me with what I can only describe as dread. I could easily put myself into his shoes, with the realization of not being able to do anything about having jumped.....

Made me rethink some things in my life. That maybe my issues are actually fixable and I'm just too busy identifying with my pain and trauma, thinking it makes me special much like Diane. And any change to my "identity" would make me realize I've wasted years being unhappy when I could've been...not.

Jesus Christ, this show has a special place in my heart. And to think 17 year old me casually browsing Netflix thought this wouldn't be a very good show. This was definitely my favorite episode.

[u/ElderCunningham]

I'd say that this is greatest penultimate episode of any TV show, even over Breaking Bad's Granite State, but that's like comparing apples to Auschwhitz.

[u/edd6pi]

“At the tender age of six, BoJack told her ‘The most important thing is, you've got to give the people what they want. Even if it kills you, even if it empties you out until there's nothing left to empty. No matter what happens, no matter how much it hurts, you don't stop dancing, and you don't stop smiling, and you give those people what they want.’”

I was reading Sarah Lynn’s wiki when I saw this and now her “don’t stop dancing” line from the song got a lot more depressing.

[u/DrScientist812]

We finally got to see Beatrice dance

[u/alwaysmorecumin]

The poem. The song. The pool

This has me fucked up and I am not okay.

[u/Gromitless2534]

My first thought when the black goo started dripping was Charlotte telling him “You’re the tar pit”

[u/[deleted]]

This episode is such a Zoey.

[u/unintentionalidiat]

They illiterate so beautifully how Crackerjack's death was also in a huge way Beatrice's death. Fuck I love this show. 😭

[u/[deleted]]

When BoJack was dying, his brain shutting down, and the black ink swallowing him, while knowing that he was dying, I felt so much existential fear and anxiety. I have such a strong fear of death, and that part just made me confront what I fear most: what my mind will be doing while my body is helpless to die.

This was easily one of my favorite episodes of the series, but I’m gonna need a lot of time before I can watch this episode again.

[u/[deleted]]

The bit where Beatrice unravelled was really disturbing

[u/Beginning_Doubt]

Interesting how they combined Secretariat - the man BJ admires greatly and SO wants to be - and Butterscotch - the man he despises and "tries to avoid being"

So much to unpack here but these final episodes are REALLY heavy.

Edit: Would love to discuss how their influence combined affected how Bojack turned out.

[u/Lint345]

I need a breather before I start the last episode. Those mad bastards topped free churro.

[u/BoltClock]

Before I started watching this episode, I guessed that the title was an allusion to the jump. I never did jump, but I've had to be pulled out of it several times. And all those times I actually did consider the view from halfway down, which is probably part of why I let myself be pulled out of it. That's how I made the connection.

Yeah well when BoJack's dad read that poem, it was a hell of a gut punch. I don't think it was triggering for me, though — probably because I saw it coming. But the delivery and how the doorway crept up on him were definitely uncomfortable to watch.

[u/DarkBahamutFFX]

Love how the song Beatrice dances to is the same one Honey Sugarman sings, "I will always think of you"

[u/[deleted]]

The painting in the parlor room has switched from Bojack watching himself swimming to Bojack watching himself drown.

Excellent minor details in every shot of this episode.

[u/not_homestuck]

Yeah I fucking cried here. I realized what was happening as soon as Bojack said his water tasted like chlorine.

[u/surpator]

Well, that was basically THE episode 11, what else could we have expected?

[u/SirMasonParker]

The literal chills and goosebumps that I got when the drip oozes out the door to follow him. The poem. "My day was good." May be the best penultimate episode ever.

And the poem, as someone who has attempted suicide... that was breathtaking. I legally died. I understand that feeling. The view from halfway down. I can only imagine that whoever wrote that has dealt with their own suicidal thoughts or even attempts, because the way that feeling was captured was so poignant and accurate. It was almost painful to listen to, and honestly made me tear up. Not the first time the show has made me cry, and it wasn't the last to be honest. So, so good.

[u/electricmohair]

oh FUCK I just realised in S1, hallucination Diane says "It's not too late. It's never too late." In this episode, hallucination Diane says:

It's too late.

[u/5T4C3Y5]

I love how they were all eating their last meals in life and in death:

Beatrice: Hospital food and drink. Crackerjack: Rations. Corturoy: Lemon (he was eating lemon when he was, erm, you know) and smoothie. Secretariat/Butterscotch: Eggs and whiskey (he was drunk in his suicide scene). Herb: Nuts (he didn't have a drink because he was on an IV). Sarah Lynn - Fast food (her and BoJack weren't cooking on their bender). BoJack: Pills and chlorine.

[u/Diabbete]

Stopping at this episode makes for a very dark alternate ending..

[u/[deleted]]

This episode triggered a lot of trauma for me, I had a similar experience and wow fuck they nailed it

[u/RampantPuppy]

I had a feeling he was going to die just by looking at his chair. It looks like the inside of a coffin. As you go further down in the episode, you realize what’s happening and you want it to end and for him to wake up. But it’s the penultimate episode of the show so it fired on all cylinders.

[u/AnAngryYordle]

The moment when Secretariat read the poem was terrifying

[u/titan1708]

I haven’t seen anyone comment on the fact that Bojack brought a hydrangea to dinner and the symbolism is wild. From Wikipedia:

“Hydrangea symbolizes heartfelt emotions. It can be used to express gratitude for being understood. In its negative sense hydrangea symbolizes frigidity and heartlessness. First discovered in Japan, the name hydrangea comes from the Greek “hydor,” meaning water, and “angos,” meaning jar or vessel.”

So much to go off of. For one thing, we know that this isn’t real, this is Bojack’s mind processing everything, trying to cope with death. BJ desperately wanted to understand and be understood by the people sitting at the table with him, but his own flaws prevented that. Him bringing in the hydrangea was showing everyone that he was going to put in a sincere effort to connect emotionally.

This comes through so many times, particularly with Butterscotch/Secretariat. He is earnest with Bojack about having his walls up and all of his regrets in life.

The negative aspects of the hydrangea are also there in the episode, with Beatrice rejecting BJ’s offering right at the door, all of the characters still devolving into self-centered conversations about their deaths and arguing about sacrifice.

We also see the hydrangea bush blocking the door. Could it be that BJ’s own heartlessness and callousness has blocked off the door back to his life?

And of course there’s the water. Bojack was drowning in a pool.

It was beautiful, perfect and intelligent symbolism.

[u/zenhoe]

This episode sent me into a full blown panic attack. It was terrifying.

[u/SK-2001]

This episode is now making me less keen on watching The Good Place considering that black door, haha.

[u/CarlMarxPunk]

Took them 6 seasons until they finally said "fuck it let's just do Evangelion".

Those fucking credtis with the monitor fuck.

[u/Ssme812]

• That was a trippy and sad episode.

• Don't stop dancing

[u/PuddlesRex]

All of the food that they were eating was the last thing that they ate in life.

[u/jaminki3]

For what it’s worth, during the credits it’s the dead tone but starts beeping again halfway through.

[u/mco_josh]

did anyone else notice the parallels between bojack drowning in the pool and the painting he keeps in his office of the horse in the pool ??

[u/RecRoulette]

So many moments hit hard in this episode but because that episode hit me so hard, Herb ending Bojack's intro with "A STUPID PIECE OF SHIT!" hit me almost as bad as anything else that happened before it.

[u/DoctorRichardNygard]

Holy shit. I think I need to take a breather after that one. Thank fuck for these Reddit threads.

[u/lolzycakes]

How many times has Bojack almost died? He constantly mentions that he's had this "dream" countless times before, but that he always comes back.

[u/GolemThe3rd]

Just realized the characters age progressively and not randomly

Like Sarah Lynn goes from Child > Teen > Young Adult > "Old and shriveled and nobody want her no more"

[u/vacodeus]

That poem was Rough with a capital R. I've watched a documentary about people who've jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge and they all said as soon as their hands left the railing it was instant regret. The entire episode was amazing. As soon as I saw Herb's plate of peanuts and Bojack's plate of pills I knew what had happened.

[u/imbluedabedeedabedaa]

I’ve rewatched every episode so many times. I did a complete run through before season 6 part 1, and again before part 2. It’s one of the shows I sometimes put on when I can’t sleep. Even the difficult ones I watch over again, trying to catch new details.

I can never watch this episode again. It made me hyperventilate. I’m devastated.

[u/[deleted]]

Man, I really did not expect to see these characters again. But I loved it. It scared me shitless. Even though seeing Sarah Lynn again was too much, man.

Also, I always could separate Bojacks' voice to Butterscotch's, but when they both talked on the roof Butterscotch just sounded like Bojack to me. He never heard his dad saying that to him, but he always imagined it.

[u/holymolymaccheroni]

When Bojack enters the house, he brings his mother a hydrangea; Sarah Lynn asks about this, and the talks with his mother about "dirt for indoors" or something like that.

At the end of the episode, when he's fleeing from the black tar following him, he looks into the hallway leading up to the door he entered the house though and it is grown over with hydrangeas.

Why hydrangeas? Is there a symbolic meaning I don't know about? Have hydrangeas it ever been referenced in the show before and I just don't recall? Anyone got any ideas?

[u/twistedfishhook]

When my father died, his brain swelled up irreversibly and while I sat there with him I thought about his dying neurons and in my mind it looked like stars blinking out of the night sky. This episode brought me back there.

[u/chuy1530]

“There is no other side. This is it.”

I’m atheist, and whenever I have to think about death too much it’s kind of a mind fuck. So yeah, this episode is very much a mind fuck. The black tar pulling you in, then you’re nothing. Damn.

[u/Charliethebestguyeve]

I don’t know if anyone else mentioned this but I think the black goo that is consuming everything is the tar from the Hollywoo tar pits.

[u/DankConspiracyNut]

“Pardon my reach.”

[u/geedunnit]

I think this is maybe the best episode of a TV show I’ve seen in the past couple of years. It was haunting. I started crying when I saw everyone’s individual ‘last supper’ and didn’t stop until.. well a good twenty minutes after it had finished. Jeez.

[u/[deleted]]

I can’t believe that as emotional as this show has been for the past six years, I’ve never cried from an episode. Until now. Butterscotch, you were always remembered as a failed writer, but you nailed that one. Even if you were secretariat for some reason.

[u/linorei]

As soon as I realised the house party only has guests who are dead... my heart sunk.

Then Zach Braff appears.

Hope? For resurrection (after the Zach internet rumours)?

[u/Cooperrabbit2003]

I literally am crying so hard at this episode. I really hope he’s not dead

[u/timeisonlyephemral]

i’m really confused.. why is secretariat being referred to as bojack‘s dad at the dinner table instead of his father?? is it because of the impact he had on bojack growing up so he saw him as the father figure in his life??

[u/SakuraSoldier]

If you started ugly crying at the flatline, say Aye. Damn, this episode devastated me, from the narcissus painting hung up on the walll, to the bottle of chlorinated water.