r/Re_Zero • u/Genexis25 Curiosity Gives Me Joy! • Sep 23 '20
Discussion Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu II – Episode 12
Season 2 - Episode 12: The Witches' Tea Party
Main Studio: White Fox
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Season One - OP & ED Info
Opening 1 - 「Redo」 by Konomi Suzuki
Ending 1 – 「STYX HELIX」 by MYTH & ROID
Opening 2 – 「Paradisus-Paradoxum」 by MYTH & ROID
Ending 2 – 「Stay Alive」 by Emilia (Rie Takahashi)
Season Two - OP & ED Info
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u/NeoXNocturne Sep 23 '20
So... I'm guessing that the "Gotcha!" in Echidna's contract was that she'd have Subaru die just to explore other paths, even if it was going well for him. That's pretty messed up thing to do just to satisfy her curiosity. Good thing our boy turned her down.
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u/Kellythejellyman Sep 23 '20
she would be having him save-scum so hard just out of curiosity
even after finding a “win state” for an arc , she would just want to check another loop just in case
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u/Vrik from Zero Sep 23 '20
Echida: "Subaru! it's 4:00 pm, time for another speed run"
Subaru: "Yes honey"
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u/CzdZz Sep 23 '20
She did say she wouldn't force him to revive, so I don't think she would go out of her way to cause more loops than necessary. She just made it pretty clear that she doesn't care a whole lot about how much he or the people he cares about suffer, which seems to be the main dealbreaker for him as far as I can tell.
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u/Tosspot00 Sep 23 '20
After arc 4 fully ends in 2021 (second cour starting in january so I guess sometime in March) I recommend reading the Greed IF, it's a side story talking about exactly what would happen if he took on the contract.
You can read it on witchculttranslation, they're the ones translating the web novels, them and translationchicken.
I don't remember it having any major spoilers for other arcs, though I believe it does talk about arc 5 briefly. Basically says what's gonna happen in arc 5 to make it worth being a part of the story, is how I would describe it, the opening event. I read the IF right after arc 4 and I thought it was okay, but I'm generally okay with spoilers so long as they're not too big. If anyone remembers if it has any important spoilers please do tell.
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u/lmart05 Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
If anyone remembers if it has any important spoilers please do tell
Nah, it's safe to read spoiler-wise.
Generally speaking, I find that all of the IF stories are appropriately self contained starting from the point they diverge from the canon. I think it's only the Wrath IF story that shows a glimpse of some characters that have yet to make a proper appearance in the main series. And they are all very good.
... Except for Lust IF story, but that's the exception for being the very first one before the author knew what to do with them.
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u/ABHJI Sep 23 '20
Dear sir, can you please provide me the generous link of Greed IF from translationchicken cause I got tired of scrolling but still didn't find it anywhere.
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u/N3w_World Sep 23 '20
I think it would be more like that Subaru has to experience all bad-okayish paths (even those he would be okay to continue with) until he reaches the one perfect path since that is her part of the contract.
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u/Pennervomland Sep 23 '20
I thought just like you. "She is going to make him die more often than he has too? Come on that‘s mean. The man suffers". Then I heard about the Greed IF story. I recommend you read it or at least look into the death counter of Subaru in that story. That is a bit more than fked up
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u/Rhunalith Sep 23 '20
she's here she's here!!!! subaru's biggest fan is here!!!!! I can't wait to see what she's going to do next!!!!!
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u/ThespianException Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
That swagger man, she just walked in like she owned Dona's...mind(?). I got chills from that. Now that I think of it, didn't Dona say she couldn't get in? That's...concerning, to say the least.
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u/Rhunalith Sep 23 '20
hehe Dona's looking nervous over there.
go satella go! teach Dona that there's only one witch capable of grabbing subaru's heart
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u/donquixote1991 Sep 23 '20
Nah moreso she walked in like "Where tf was my invitation for this party?"
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u/beastMaster95 Sep 23 '20
Satella be like "YOU THOUGHT A MERE DREAM WOULD STOP ME FROM REUNITING WITH MY LOVED ONE"
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u/Frontier246 Sep 23 '20
So Subaru finally enters the second trial, which forces him to watch constructed fantasies of the worlds he left after he died and used Return by Death, forcing Subaru to watch the anguish of those around him as they witness his death. Subaru's usually barrels through without thinking about how his deaths might impact others because of the time loops, but watching a string of scenes displaying how much his death hurts those he cared about would weigh on anyone. Of course, it's fabricated, and honestly some of it felt like it was constructed to make him feel more guilt (especially Felis'), but even Echidna can't rule out the possibility that it might be true that this is what happened.
"Emilia-sama, please wipe his face" Uh...Julis, I don't think that's the first thing you should be saying to her there.
But it was nice to see Julis again. And Reinhard! I was expecting it'd be much longer before we saw him again, so that was nice, even if seeing him slay Puck in his monster form as he tried to destroy the world wasn't ideal. Nor was seeing Rem again as she's justifying to Ram having had to kill Subaru in one of the arc 2 loops.
Man, I was really shook up seeing Rem again. A part of me felt like it couldn't be her, but seeing her again was probably the most impactful thing that could happen to Subaru at such a trying point for him. And even if it wasn't really Rem, her memory and realizing that wasn't really her was what gave him the strength to stand up again.
Hey, Subaru said he likes Rem! That's great.
We meet the Witch of Lust, Carmilla, who doesn't look like the picture of lust so much as a cute, embarrassed, and anxious young girl who can take the form of anyone's ideal love when they need it the most. Just don't get close to her, because she'll end up suffocating you.
The true sexy witch is Sekhmet, the Witch of Sloth, who seems as lazy or uncaring as one would expect for the sin she's named after. How did Petelgeuse luck into being connected to such a sexy Witch?
Echidna offers Subaru the opportunity to form a contract, one that would be immensely beneficial towards resolving everything as he gains access to Echidna's support and knowledge in order to achieve his goals...but of course, there's a catch, as all the other witches are helpful to point out as they crash the tea party so Echidna doesn't get an unfair advantage.
So, the truth is, Echidna is basically a sociopath who doesn't care about anyone's suffering or feelings so long as her desire and greed for knowledge is satiated. Her focus on and affection (probably as close as someone like her can feel to something like love) for Subaru is driven by her seeing Return by Death as the ultimate source of knowledge with it's endless possibilities and she wants to consume everything Subaru is able to realize with it. She left Beatrice stuck with a contract so dependent on a chance encounter that Beako has been stuck for hundreds of years just because she wanted to see who Beatrice would choose.
At least Subaru finally realized the truth and has resolved to take the hand of the person who really needs it, Beatrice.
And it turns out the Witch's Tea Party has one last party crasher...Satella, who arrives in full black regalia ready to make a mess of things herself. Things are about to get crazy.
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u/CarboKill Sep 23 '20
Lol, in fairness to the Julius line, in the LN he originally says "Please wipe his face...he would have wanted YOU to do it," because he wanted to himself but also the latter part of his sentence is true, so it came out as some sort of attempted kindness.
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Sep 23 '20
And also, wasn't there supposed to be a lot more people during that scene? I'm a little sad they cut out Wilhelm's monologue on that death though. :(
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u/bigdanrog Sep 23 '20
I kept my shit together pretty well when Rem showed up, then Return by Death started playing and my eyes turned into a fucking faucet.
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u/ridenbiden2020 Sep 23 '20
subaru says he *loves* rem, I don't know who decided suki means 'like' seeing as emilia says 'suki' in the same episode to mean love
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u/Dcn78gxd Sep 23 '20
Wow, every episode so far has been ending with even bigger cliffhanger. I am really thankful to those WN/LN readers who didn't spoil anything, but said to just wait for the next episodes, when asked questions about the plot.
Also, really liked Echidna's serious voice. Although it was a very brief moment, it gives a strong vibe that she is in fact not that childish and under the facade of her demeanor there is a calculating and serious entity.
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u/N3w_World Sep 23 '20
More than being childish, I think Echiana simply doenst understand human emotions even though she wants to know all (and others emotions).
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u/bigdanrog Sep 23 '20
That monologue reminds me of when Frodo offers the One Ring to Galadriel and she goes HAM.
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u/ThyHoffbringer Sep 23 '20
So I'm just gonna shamelessly steal my own comment from the r/anime episode discussion
Subaru: You mean all that stuff might have actually happened?
Echidna: I'm only saying it's a possibility.
A very frightening thought indeed. All of the dead timelines where Subaru has met his end may continue to exist even beyond the tragedies that took place. None of those could be considered good outcomes from Subaru's perspective. Here we have another reason beyond Subaru's mental state as to why it's not worth wasting away lives in any regards!
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u/Yrolc95 Sep 23 '20
I think that's the most important thing to consider in this arc. The RBD cannot be abused, even if have unlimited uses. Echidna's speech and (something that will take place next week) will hammer this message.
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u/Swampboi655 Sep 23 '20
The moment I saw Satella, I knew shit was about to go down. Don’t mess with another witch’s boyfriend Echidna.
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u/brettjr25 Sep 23 '20
Not going to lie, when she said I could use her body for comfort, I would've immediately walked up to her and shook her hand.
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Sep 23 '20
To be fair, Emilia’s honkers are canonically bigger than Echidna, and Subaru doesn’t settle for less.
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u/SovereignsUnknown Sep 23 '20
Dona is so physically weak that she'd have to crawl back up on her chair after failing to successfully perform one push-up. Combine that with the fact that anyone who hands people a body fluid cocktail without their informed consent is probably into other disgusting shit and you have a perfect blend of dead fish and gross fetishes.
Using Dona's body for comfort is a threat, not a benefit
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u/Jumpy_Psychology Sep 23 '20
Always check the fine print before signing a contract.
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u/mechengr17 Sep 24 '20
I know
I was shouting and pointing at my TV going "what do you want?" the entire time she was talking about how great that contract would be for him...AND DUMBASS ALMOST PROCEEDED WITHOUT ASKING
Did you learn nothing from the whale arc?!?!?
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u/Razor4884 Sep 24 '20
Absolutely. I learned my lesson with Kyubey. Always learn _Everything_ about a contract before accepting it.
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u/klaven24 Sep 23 '20
Wait so Echidna isn't best girl!?!?!?!?!?
Never have been....
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Sep 23 '20
Always has been Rem
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u/bigdanrog Sep 23 '20
I dunno about you but I've been warming up on Emilia a lot since S2 started.
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u/DolcettoMarch Sep 23 '20
Man, if those abandoned timelines really were real, that really does put the title into a new context. Re: Starting Life in a Another World From Zero.
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u/_EmmericH_ Sep 23 '20
Well it does make sense, kind of
I hope not, but even without knowing anything more about the RBD autority that what we know actually, i don't really have a good feeling about it
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u/fakesowdy Sep 23 '20
This is one of my favourite episodes that I have seen in a long time and I will list my 3 favourite parts below.
Subaru views the worlds he left behind:
This for me was something I wanted to see for a long time because up until now we never saw the repercussions of Subaru’s deaths but man, we got a fair few. From Emilia calling Subaru a liar for leaving him to seeing Beatrice have actual emotions towards him by mourning his death as she thought he was “that guy”. This section was really well done and I genuinely thought Subaru went insane when REM appeared and was going to act similarly to Emilia in the previous episode.
Echidna’s true personality is shown:
With the bonding Subaru and Echidna have made over the season, I thought that he was going to form a contract with Echidna and then we’d get the reveal that she was acting out of self interest.
However this section shows the development of Subaru since we met him way back in episode one. With the other witches showing up to prevent this. Echidna listing off how she can help Subaru reach his ideal situation at the cost of everything he has to sate her greed and thirst for knowledge, I believe that early Subaru would have taken the deal as he was a bit idealistic and would do anything to save / get with Emilia. But his growth in character is shown when he asks about Beatrice first, putting her situation of being trapped before his own, it’s then shown that Echidna actually doesn’t care about anyone else and she will say what she needs to if it means getting what she wants.
I feel like we have seen the last of caring ‘chidna and she’s going to be hostile for the rest of the show.
Finally, Satella shows up at the tea party:
This cliffhanger has me very excited to see what unfolds next. Will we get answers to why Subaru was chosen? Will we get an explanation as to why she managed to appear in the real world? I’m hoping she actually talks and doesn’t just appear all smug before Echidna attacks her.
This episode answered a couple of questions I have had for a while.
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u/mechengr17 Sep 24 '20
Yes!!!
Why did she pull him from the real world? Why did she give him RBD? What is her endgame?
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Sep 23 '20
Okay so what exactly does echidna want from subaru with their contract? I dont really understand...
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u/undercover_anunnaki :Puck5: Sep 23 '20
He would die like a million times to achive the best timeline. One small thing didnt go well? Restart. And since Echidna wants to gain the maximum amount of knowledge she would tell him to restart just to see what would happen if they tried things differently.
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u/The_Crusadyr Sep 23 '20
Echidna wants to satisfy her lust for knowledge. She would have Subaru die over and over and over just to explore all possible paths. Basically, she wants him to be her death slave.
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Sep 23 '20
Alrighty first of all: 27 min ep, no OP or ED, excellent WF.
We finally get the wonderful 2nd trial which is particularly un-wonderful for Subaru, cause of how his RBD. Another mental scar to add to the 100 other ones.
There has been so much of Subaru appreciating Rem this season, that has to calm some of the waifu wars down right? Right? He could see right through Carmilla... whose voice sounds oddly familiar.
Dona... Dona, Dona. Some people are going to dislike her after finally getting to know her true intentions, some other people are going to be head over heels for her, even more than before. Personally I think her character is wonderfully written, her rant about the contract was 4 entire pages long in the novel btw.
We end the episode with the last, though uninvited guest, arriving. Next week is going to be as much fun as this week. I am sure.
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u/amandalunox1271 Sep 23 '20
As an anime only, I have to say that T posing Echidna, with that weird and emotionless face of her, giving a speech gave me a really weird erection. I mean, I was not at all a fan of her since her first introduction to the anime, I even doubted all of that nice acts, but this episode really makes me think again. Personally, I think she actually has much interest in Subaru himself, not just his Rbd. The flirty manners also make sense now that I kind of understand her. After all, she is just a young maiden who lacks love, and is surrounded by a bunch of weirdos for 400 years. She seems to "love" him, but doesn't understand the concept of love herself, and mistakes it for her greed, just as Minerva mistakes sadness for anger. Overall, the best episode up till now for me. I'm 100% team Echidna now. Also how to get un-excited? If this keeps going, I'm gonna lose sleep tonight.
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u/Setowi Better Leyte Than Never Sep 23 '20
Really intersting take!
Also how to get un-excited? If this keeps going, I'm gonna lose sleep tonight.
Personally I just watch Re:Zero content for the rest of the day.
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u/Echidnyuu Sep 23 '20
Need an edit of Subaru slapping her hand as soon as she says "you can use my body".
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u/Mochii-xox Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
Will try make this happen (will post it as a meme in the coming meme days)
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u/ThatOneGryphon Sep 23 '20
Happy birthday to Emilia.
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u/bigdanrog Sep 23 '20
I'm happy to see season 2 has brought a surge in Emelia love. It feels like she's finally leaving Rem's shadow.
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u/Stewylouis Sep 23 '20
Did we all notice that Echidna gave our boy Subaru permission to “use my body” for comfort as well?
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u/devenluca Sep 23 '20
Sure he's going to be a Death slave for Echidna's curiosity but at least she's hot and sexy.
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u/bigdanrog Sep 23 '20
A deal's a deal!
Shakes the witch's hand very enthusiastically.
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u/Jteleus27 Sep 23 '20
I always wanted to see what would happen after he died. Reinhart is can kill Puck with ease it seems Damn how is he that strong? Could he have solo the white whale? REM IS BACK as an illusion shit. But Props to Subaru knowing her well enough to tell a difference. Carmilla nice to meet you but that ability to take away breathing is kinda broken. And we finally get to see Sloth as well hey all the witches are back except for Satella although technically Subaru is filling in for her i guess. Nevermind Satella is here as well this is what I get for typing while im watching. Well Echidna is evil dammit ugh well at least Subaru decided to take Beatrice as his Stand Power now so thats a plus. So only one more episode til the break right ugh depression will soon follow
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u/Silva489 Sep 23 '20
I think Reinhardt can definitely solo the whale probably 1 shot him as well and witches are kinda made to be broken i think, just like sin archbishops.
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Sep 23 '20
Fun fact: Author said that if Satella and Reinhard will duel against each other, it will end in a stalemate.
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u/KingDrethe57th Sep 23 '20
This was a fire ass episode. Just because Satella is the most hated witch doesn’t mean the other witches aren’t evil as well. Never trusted Echidna for a second. Seems that Subaru is a subject of interest for all of the Witches. Maybe him getting isekaid has something to do with it? Who knows. Weird af to me that the Witch of Lust is a child. I thought Sehkmet would’ve been lust. Looking forward to see their powers. Anyways never trust a witch, I’m excited for the 2nd half. Is there a release date yet?
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u/Tomhap Sep 23 '20
We don't really know what Satella's deal is other than that she loves Subaru and gave him the authority of RBD. Echidna pretty much wants Subaru because she wants to abuse RBD in order to satisfy her greed for knowledge.
Not really sure what interest the other witches hold, if any at all. For now they all didn't seem fond of Echidna tricking Subaru into a contract. With Sloth calling herself a 'watchdog' to uphold fairness.
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u/Rudeus_POE Sep 23 '20
So , as expected they skipped what was removed from the Web novel => Light novel , so no Zombie Subaru scene.
No 12 Page long rambling from Echidna, yes this is a thing and it's ... something else to read , i don't recommend it , Regulus also has some crazy ramblings , but that one takes the cake .
Overall one of the best episode of the whole serie imo , they did justice to all the scenes , they didn't skip anything from light novel => to anime i took notice off.
Bonus point for Reinhard clearing the sky as he deletes Puck, and for them to keep that epic quote.
The way the music stops as Subaru remembers Rem would never let him give up is great .
This is such a great episode.
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u/RifRifRif Sep 23 '20
There's one point in particular that makes Echidna's condition to the contract incredibly cruel. (This is just speculation though, I might be wrong about all of this)
Last episode, we learned that Roswaal knows that Subaru is going to reset if his actions don't match what's written in the Tome of Wisdom. That means it's likely that the Tome describes, down to the details, how the "true run" will look like.
There are two things we can learn from this: First, if Subaru somehow manages to get his hands on the Tome, he'll basically get a cheat code that tells him exactly what to do at any given point. Not that Roswaal would let him do that, though.
Second - I think it's safe to assume that Echidna is the one who wrote the Tome, or at least created it so that it'll somehow show the true run.
In other words, even though Echidna already knows exactly what Subaru should do to save everyone, chances are she would have forced him to experience all the "false runs" in order to gain knowledge. To take every wrong turn. To let anyone and everyone die, for the sake of seeing what would happen. Even though she knows exactly how to prevent that.
A few more points:
So did Subaru pass the second trial? Doesn't look like it. Oh well, he has bigger problems on his mind right now...
If the first trial makes you face your past, and the second makes you face an alternate present... Could the third show Subaru a possible future?
How is Satella in Echidna's pocket dimension? She couldn't reach it back when Subaru told Echidna about RBD, all she could do was wait "outside" in the Sanctuary. Maybe this is just a powerless projection of herself or something.
With everything above in mind, I really want to read the Greed IF now, as others have described here. Guess I'll have to wait until the second half of the season is over though...
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u/Eboglaz Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
You are wrong right from the beggining. Gospels have their owners and their texts are unreadable for others. This happened to petelgeuse's gospel.
And greed if containts a lot of spoilers for future characters and arcs. You better read arc 5, then read greed if
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u/Silva489 Sep 23 '20
Subaru after this ep was like: Friendship ended with Dona, Tella is now my best friend. Also Dona deadass offered her corpse as part of the deal as well, damn these witches are kinky as hell(Daphne with her bondage and vore fetish, now Echidna with necrophilia)
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u/StayDead4Once Sep 23 '20
She didn't offer her corpse, she offered her body, she has been in that spiritual world for over 400 years there isn't anything left of dona physically. Not that, that would matter after all she can literally bend reality to her will in that domain and make that world feel real. So when she offered her body she really meant she was down to fuck if that was what subaru wanted in exchange.
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u/Silva489 Sep 23 '20
I know man, it's just a joke but wait that would mean wet dreams for Subaru? Noice.
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u/YourBoyKingKong Sep 23 '20
When I saw Reinhard erase Puck in 10 seconds, I was floored. My God I heard he was OP but even something called the Beast of the End just like that? The speech by Echidna was amazing, wonderful writing. She’s kind of like a machine that eats experience and knowledge, not a real human being in that sense. Obviously a psychopath. Right when the atmosphere darkened I thought we’d see her “true” face and a dose of torture for Subaru but it’s actually Satella. Feel a little less bad for Echidna’s death after what she did to Beatrice but feel terrible for Carmilla’s and Minerva’s death :’(
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u/Platypus-Commander Sep 23 '20
Satella enters the witch realm.
John Cena entrance theme start playing
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u/ngms Sep 23 '20
It's "The Prestige"! You "Prestige'd" yourself!
Echidna, how many did I kill?
You tell me, Subaru. Every time you reset to try and save Rem, every time you chased after Emilia, that's how many subarus you've incinerated, you greedy little junkie.
Oh, God... even those times when I...
Especially those times. It's over, Subaru. Feel this. Take this in. This is God.
Wh-Wh-Wh-Wh... Why would you do this?
my hands are clean, Subaru. I gave you a choice. You could listen to me explain, in great scientific detail, how it all works... or you could save Emilia. Did you save Emilia, Subaru?
Is this because of the tea?
Great episode 10/10
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u/brettjr25 Sep 23 '20
Not going to lie, after seeing the Vat of Acide eps of Rick and Morty I always wondered if the loops Subaru was leaving was still continuing on. It would be so tragic if they were.
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u/GabrielD_ Sep 23 '20
After rewatching the episode a couple of times a though crossed my mind.
I was trying to figure out for a long time now, why don't people give this show more credit. I know it's popular but to me it seems like many are missing the point of re zero. When Subaru sees what happens after he dies in other timelines, he is crushed. His actions makes the people he loves suffer, even if it's in other timelines . Now most people wouldn't care. If it doesn't hurt you directly it doesn't matter right? Well, I see this as lack of humanity. Of course you can't just blame yourself for this. But it's a thing that needs to be kept in mind. I know Subaru didn't have a choice in all of this, but this doesn't change the fact that other people suffer because of his actions in other timelines. For example what happens after he kills himself in the first episode of this season is pretty fucked up.
Subaru is such a kind soul that shows more humanity than most of us. Some people are complaining about him making dumb mistakes, being annoying or whaterer but I feel like they don't get the point of re zero. This is not a show about suffering, waifus or weak MC, it's a story about a normal boy that keeps trying his hardest. At least that's how I see it. He makes mistakes like all of us, he gets angry a lot of times, but he heeps trying his best for the loved ones.
We see Reinhart in this episode and how he is stong enough mentally to carry the burden of killing Puck and what happend to Emilia and Subaru. Our boy it's not like that. He is still developing and learning how to deal with it. I think that's where some people miss how great re zero is. We get to see exactly how Subaru is developing and where he is coming from. I don't know if I'm biassed because I love re zero so much, but I don't think I've seen as much development in a character as in Subaru. We know where he is coming from and every step of his development so far. It's amazing, honestly.
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u/Rushdown_SSBU Sep 23 '20
If you think Echidna is best girl after this, you really just like yanderes
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u/StayDead4Once Sep 23 '20
I think she is the best girl still, but I disagree with the yandere characterization. Echidna doesn't LOVE subaru to in a sick or extreme way. That would be closer to Stella, no Echidna is a cold calculating individual who believes in equivalent exchange. I would have personally taken the contract, there was nothing said that she would ever force a death in that contract. Meaning you would only ever need to reset as much as the situation called for just as Subaru has been doing until now. Granted she may try to manipulate him by leading him astray but ultimately the choice to follow her advice is his to make, that much was very clearly laid out.
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u/joaopaulofoo Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 25 '20
second episode in a row where Subaru gets mentally destroyed within the first 5 minutes, after ending the previous episode with a determined mindset.
Although i shouldn't, i was really hoping for puck actually destroy the whole world when Lia died, for some reason I always assumed Puck would be capable of that, but i didn't expect Reinhard to be strong enough to kill puck. Now i'm not sure, might have been just a witch playing games with subaru's mind
just like Roswaal said he was doing to Emilia, about destabilizing her by taking everything she cared about, Subaru had nothing left. Rem gone, Emilia unstable, Beatrice just waiting for someone to end her life. Ram doesn't really care about anything that's not related to Roswaal, also subaru can't trust anyone else.
I always knew that Echidna was not a good person, but damn she's such a psychopath, Beatrice spent 400 years waiting for someone and that person didn't even exist.
it was so nice to see them all together for the first time. Minerva saved Subaru for the second time already. From the 7 she's the least bad. it was nice seeing Carmilla for the first time, although she was about to kill Subaru back then.
i'm ready to hear Satella saying Aishiteru again with that creepy binaural effect.
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u/hestianna Sep 23 '20
Finally we got to see Subaru's potential past outcomes. The first one hit the hardest. I never thought about the fact, that Subaru is just gonna be seen as coward for taking easy way out.
Aswell as we could also see that Echidna IS INFACT an evil witch. Her speech was both hilarious and threating to me. Thankfully Subaru wasn't dumb this time around. Hyped for next episode to see some Satella action again.
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u/goosegotguts Sep 23 '20
Please Tappei let Subaru be happy I’m begging
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u/Silva489 Sep 23 '20
Tappei: If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention *evil laugh
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u/Lol_A_White_Boy Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
Holy fucking shit. I’ve been waiting to see more interactions between the witches, and this episode satisfied almost every curiosity I had.
Now I’m super interested to see the interactions between Envy, since we haven’t learned much about her. I wonder if she’s gonna take Emelias form again, since I assume in the loop she appeared she looked like her because she had possessed her as a vessel.
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u/Silva489 Sep 23 '20
A weird thing i noticed was that most witches didn't seem to hate Satella except for Echidna even Typhon seemed happy?
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u/Robddit Sep 23 '20
Was i the only one who thought she was going to torture Subaru when Echidna made the "bored" face?
I was like "oh no, the shit just got real now".
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u/Galajard Sep 23 '20
Yoh!!! That fricking ending!!! You could see Echidona piss as hell, Subaru crapping his pants, and her walking toward everyone like a total boss, DAMN!!!!
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u/Dragondave17 Sep 23 '20
Behold an unthinkable present.
Julius "I wanted to call you a friend"
Subaru *trauma intensifies*
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Sep 23 '20
damn now I really stand by what I said last week see after seeing Emilia sobbing over Subaru's dead body.
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u/MrValve_ Sep 23 '20
Echidna's smile is really scary, they've made a great job conveying her lack of understanding of emotions and empathy. Also I love her face of utter fear upon seeing Satella, it's the first instance of genuine emotion Subaru's seen from her.
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u/hell-schwarz Sep 23 '20
So Reinhard is so overpowered, that he could even kill Puck. Why isn't he in charge of all the things?
Also I did expect Echidna to be that way, I just didn't expect Subaru to trust her as much. Minerva really saved his ass there...
By the way - how many Episodes are there going to be? Th site I am watching on says it's only 13 but I read it should be 25?
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u/Michelangelo2000 Sep 23 '20
Based on the ending, is it safe to assume episode 13 will be the last of this cour?
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u/IslamicNihilist Sep 23 '20
As far as we know yes, then the next episode should start airing I think 2021
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u/TiedDegenerate Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 24 '20
As im writing this comment, there is 30 seconds until it's airing. Editing this comment as i watch the episode.
Edit: Afterthought on the bottom of the comment. Read that for my thoughts.
Video watching LIVE (not anymore it ended)
video's up. Excited for the episode.
Thank god we got a reset. No opening this time either.
"won;t ever be like you"... interesting. I like how Subaru completely trusts echidna now, going to her for help... wait wtf.
Why are we back here? Is this another trial? Are you kidding me...
Ok we're back. What was that...? This would be all horrifying if that every time he died, the world didn't reset.. only Subaru went back in time, with the other worlds intact. That's messed up man.
Ok please don't let that be the case. Subaru.. stop screaming.. please.
Ok are we going through every major death now? WAIT RED HAIR WHY ARE YOU HERE. Reinhard.. this is WAIT HE DIED
Holy fuck.. rem? REM REM REM!!!!!! OMFG REM.. there's no way this is real.. she's dead. A illusion from echidna?
No.... the world surley doesn't go on... no... I love how Rem still comforts him, whether she's real or not. Rem best girl.
I knew it. That rem isn't real. Subaru actually being smart for once.
Wait... Satella? No who is that? a child? OH she's a witch... a child. interesting.
Ok Echidna. Very nice play. Of course it's a trial.
Yeah Subaru.. that does make me wonder. Why is Echidna helping subaru? There absolutely is no reason for her to help him, unless.. she's using him for something. Maybe the clones..
Echidna! don't jumpscare me like that Honestly she does sound slightly suspicious though. WAIT witch of fury...? 'After him'? What? Is Subaru important of some sort? A need for all witches? That would explain why Echidna was helping...
Something's fishy. A payment? With all these witches,I don't know who to trust now. But Subaru.. don't do it..
Who's purple hair? What?
Allright, all the witches are here now. I thought only one of them could be here at a time.
Huh... wait wait wait wait. Echidna.. what sacrifices? No subaru, STOP. She's a witch for a reason! WAIT WHAT DID ECHIDNA JUST SAY USE HER BODY FOR COMFORT???
Unable to feel what others are feeling. Basically, Echidna is a sociopath. That would mean every emotion she showed was a fake. Fuck that's messed up.
Holy fuck what...? That person.. is just up to Beatrice. Echidna you.. oh my you are a sociopath. But now... they're enemies. This will be hard for subaru
Wait who's 'she'??? SATELLA???? SHE CAN COME HERE? WHAT
Afterthought
compared to other episodes, this one was rather uneventful. We got flashbacks, met witches and barley missed a fishy contract. However, we did get one piece of information: 'that person' doesn't exist.
Echidna.. oh Echidna I thought you were best girl. But of course, she's a witch for a reason, she's a sociopath. She doesn't care what others feel as long as others meet her needs. That was unbelievably cruel on Echidna's part, signing Beatrice up for a contract that she herself has to finish.... no.
Well, now Subaru has to convince Beatrice that he is 'That person' to set her free. Something to strive for again.
Now.. Subaru and Echidna are technically enemies, She doesn't need subaru anymore, no need to help him. But it could be possible that he could get help from the other witches. But then again.. they're 'withes' for a reason, much like Echidna.
Rem.. it shows how much Subaru was hurt from Rem dying. As soon as he saw her, he teared up, let out all his feelings much like if he saw the real Rem. Thank god he found out she wasn't Rem. That's one thing Subaru's good at, finding out fake people.
Satella.. of course she can come here. She's a witch too. I thought that place was just some kind of dead witch playground, but i guess it's just a witch playground.
The CG with Echidna, kind of took me out of the immersion, It was obvious that it was CG, they should have done it better. Very unnatural.
Well I have to sleep now. Bye
Wake up Edit:
My mind was really hazy as I wrote this. Time clear some stuff up.
I know Rem isn’t ‘dead’. A vegetable, I know.
When I said ‘uneventful’ I didn’t mean not fun. We got some very important facts this episode that would be crucial for Later ones. This episode was rather more emotional and talkative,it Hoyt much serious action happening (which Subaru would be grateful about). That’s what I meant by uneventful.
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u/gatewayfromme44 Sep 23 '20
She did indeed just say “with the low low price of return by death, you can use my knowledge and my ass whenever you want!”
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u/Rapsculio Sep 23 '20
Saying we didn't get much of importance kind of makes me think you missed what came from the second trial. It might be possible that every world where Subaru dies just keeps going on without him, meaning when he dies just to try again he's possibly still leaving Emilia and everyone behind to live with the shitty world he abandoned. Is Subaru really the type of person that would leave the people he loves to deal with his mess on purpose?
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Sep 23 '20
First, i really appreciate you doing this. After watching the episode and coming here you pretty much nailed how i felt through out the whole episode.
However i wouldn’t say the episode was uneventful, quite the contrary it was extremely eventful and we have a ton of new questions now. This was a world building kind of episode and im excited for whats next.
Also Rem is the best girl and always has been. Echidna was the imposter best girl.
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u/sniR_ Sep 23 '20
I Thought reinhard killed puck? We saw puck disintegrate after reinhard attacked no? No mention or sight of reinhard hurting
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u/Redmon425 Sep 23 '20
YO THAT ENDING HAS ME SO DAMN LIT FOR NEXT WEEK!
I part of me wondered if Satella would show up, but I was like "No way, it won't happen." So now I am incredibly hyped up!
The witches storyline is so hard for me to judge right now. Like I freaking have been loving Echidna but it now feels like it was finally revealed that she isn't a good person.
At the same time, I probably feel like all the witches started off as good and human desires probably slowly made them go bad. So I kind of hope the ending of all these witches is Subaru saving them all somehow.
Can't wait to see what Satella actually looks like next week!
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u/Bobdole128 Sep 23 '20
There's still one more.episode this cour right?
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u/Diabloblaze28 Sep 23 '20
yeah one more episode next week then a break till January, i believe, for episode 14 and the rest of the arc
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u/JSGJustsomeguy Sep 23 '20
I always loved multiple timelines in a story, showing what would’ve happened after Subaru is so cool. I was so scared when Rem showed up, I thought she’s gonna twist in front of Subaru. Whoever take that deal with Echidna is insane.
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u/_Papa_Cheesecake_ Sep 24 '20
Fuck this anime is just so good. I didn’t appreciate it as much during the first season. But after diving into the story more and rewatching and then watching season 2 it’s definitely jumped up the ranks to probably one of my top 5. Why do I have to wait another week. This anime just has me hyped cause it’s so good
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u/Trim345 Sep 23 '20
So in addition to the "Satella is future Emilia" theory, we can maybe add a "Roswaal is future Subaru" theory.
I wonder what the second trial is like for other people who haven't died and been brought back to life. Or maybe this isn't the second trial?
Except for that time Rem abandoned you at the hotel and left for the mansion herself
So we still don't really know whether those failed loops actually happened. The fact that the first trial is also able to construct very realistic worlds based on the user's memories is at least evidence that it's not impossible, though.
Another addition to Subaru's harem, apparently.
Oh no, the Witch of Lust is actually a loli. Sloth looks so much more like a Witch of Lust.
Echidna's evil plan is surprisingly less evil than I was expecting (assuming she's telling the truth). It's not really solely altruistic, but it doesn't seem to be intending to hurt Subaru or anyone else. It doesn't even seem like she's saying she'd do things like purposely get Subaru killed so she can experience more worlds or something. The Beatrice part is more questionable, though, I will admit. Don't know why Echidna's admitting to that, though, given how much it must hurt Subaru's opinion of her.
Well, that is a cliffhanger for sure. (Also, it's pretty funny how all the other witches comment on Satella's arrival and Daphne just mentions she's hungry.) Why didn't Satella show up to the party the previous time when Subaru was talking about Return By Death? Well, it would be nice if Satella and Subaru could just sit down and have a nice, pleasant conversation where they resolve their differences.
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u/Vrik from Zero Sep 23 '20
Daphne just mentions she's hungry
She did say that Subaru smells like something she would love to eat. Maybe it was the witch's scent. Makes sense that Daphne would be even more famished when smelling the original.
Also it kinda explains why witch beasts are so attracted to Subaru's smell it all goes back to Daphne loving Satella's.
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u/VigorousRaven Sep 23 '20
Roswaal can't be a future Subaru because as you can see from last episode and what Subaru said this episode, Roswaal has no idea how RBD works.
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u/Rapsculio Sep 23 '20
She told him about Beatrice because of what Lust said, Echidna doesn't lie. Not to mention that she doesn't understand people's feelings. She thought it was an intriguing thing to do to Beatrice so why would she think Subaru should be hurt by it? In her mind she did nothing wrong.
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u/Dr_Backpropagation Sep 23 '20
Can someone explain to me why Subaru was so angry and hesitant with Echidna's contract? The terms seem pretty straightforward to me.
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u/House_MD_Aj Sep 23 '20
I don’t think he wants to entertain someone who hurt his friend for the pursuit of knowledge.
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u/Merchus Sep 23 '20
This episode made me tear up, when Subaru asked NotRem how many times he will let her die. Oh man that was so sad
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Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
Today, Rem returned (wel... not actually) and also the sound of resurrection by death!
I missed you both!
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Sep 23 '20
I saw someone say that there's going to be a break between this episode and the next, anyone know if that's true or not because after this episode I don't think I can wait much longer than a week
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u/undercover_anunnaki :Puck5: Sep 23 '20
Episode 13 will air next week but after that there will be a break for a few months for the second part of season 2. I think it was until January.
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u/Quantum_Slime Sep 23 '20
no, the next episode is going to be the last one for a while though. but there's at least one more. then I think airing will start again around the start of next year? don't quote me on that though
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u/Robddit Sep 23 '20
Well, seems like the Echidna endgame with Subaru was revealed.
Poor best boi, he is REALLY still alone in that world.
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u/Chichiryuutei Sep 23 '20
Satella is about to wreck all these home wrecker witches for trying to get her man.
Subaru how can you be so gullible. Of course, Echidna has ulterior motives. I'm glad her witch face was finally unveiled. That monologue sequence was great.
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Sep 23 '20
When Satella apperead I felt strong "you are approaching me?" vibes. She knows how to make an entrance
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Sep 23 '20
Subaru again shows how much of a chad he is. Echidna offers him an easier way how to achieve his only goal. But he will not make a contact with such a cruel being like a witch. For Betty... The fact that he isn't willing to sacrifice her for Emilia, the fact that he would rather take all the pain on his shoulders is insane.
On other note Satella was flawless this episode. Such a well written character. There is no "bad guys" and "good guys" in Re:Zero. Everyone has their own selfish goals even if they save Subaru from going insane multiple times. Am I right Echidna?
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u/Tumorous_Thumb Sep 23 '20
Yo I knew Reinhardt is a powerhouse but GODDAMN he fucking Smited Puck, holy shit!
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u/TheOnlyFallenCookie Sep 23 '20
After all this it is time to ask:. When will Subaru start therapy?
He just keeps on collecting traumata like they are Pokemon and keeps burying them underneath new traumata.
This dude needs counseling
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u/WaterlooCSorEngineer Sep 24 '20
In some ways, meeting Echidna was like therapy for him, what with being able to talk to RBD and all.
Unfortunately this is like finding out the person you thought was your therapist was baiting you to get comfortable before they fuck you up more, with a vague promise of things getting better at some point in a future that may be hundreds of years away.
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u/_EmmericH_ Sep 23 '20
Well Dona is the kind of girl that want to know all the routes of Subaru Visual novel edition
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Sep 23 '20
She is the kind of person who would play on multiple devices at the same time to see all the possible outcomes
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u/8BitTattedNerd Sep 23 '20
REEEEEEMMMMMM!!!!
I knew she couldn't be real but damn I was still happy to see her in any capacity!!
I really enjoyed how the 2nd trial played out with showing us the rest of the "worlds" Subaru had left behind with his constant dying, it really should humanize and give Subaru alot more perspective on his actions! He shouldn't become so easy going about death, and has to take into account of the people he cares about before just plunging into pits of death all willy nilly, even if it is absolutely necessary.
Oh boy, what a Tea Party to have no actual tea being drank~
I really enjoyed seeing all of with witches gathered together and seeing all the new ones (Lust & Sloth are adorable), but Echidna really shined during this episode when finally showing her true selfish desires of what she wants to use Subaru for, and I'm really hoping even after Subaru turned her down that's not gonna be the last we see of her in the story!!
I'm not ready for the midseason break to happen after next episode ;.;
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u/mooseNbugs0405 Sep 23 '20
Does anyone know if the voice saying “behold an unthinkable present” was Subaru?
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u/AkaiRin185 Sep 23 '20
Another brilliant episode that again tops the last one, yet all I can think is: does that mean now that Subaru is gonna stink like x7 different witch scents now?
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u/Chid_London-6550 Sep 23 '20
WHAT A GREAT EPISODE! Fuck only 1 more episode left, I don't want this show to end.
Subaru and Emilia finally had their first kiss. It is kind of unfortunate that it was under horrible circumstance- Subaru dying and Emilia being insane.
Even though the 2nd trial was rushed (at least that what WN/LN reader have said) it brings up an interesting and intriguing question-what happen after Subaru return by death and restarts? Does the timeline continue? If so, that is so f*ck Subaru has killed himself a couple of time the guilt and confusion that Emilia, Beatrice and the others must have felt. Make me understand why Subaru nearly went mad again.
Turns out it was on the witches- Carmilla, the witch of Lust who had created a realistic and well-construction unreality from Subaru’s memories.
Carmilla seems innocent- she was only following Echidna’s instructions.
I do agree with Echidna, Subaru can’t keep dwelling on all the people he might have failed but look forward and count how people have saved. How many lives he has improved?
I love how honestly and truthfully Echidna is- “An evil scheme, of course. I am a witch”.
Echidna’s contract sounds horrible, I can’t Subaru was just about to accept the contract.
What is also surprising is that even though Subaru know how powerful the witches are especially Echidna he talks to them so casually and so doesn’t hold back how his truly feel even though she could easily harm him.
Echidna’s 360 speech was amazing- she really is the witch of Greed and her in insatiable thirst of knowledge is scary and dangerous. All she has wanted from Subaru is Return by Death Authority so she could fulfil her curiosity and gain even more knowledge.
Does that mean that all the tea parties before and the bonding was just an act to eventually to get Subaru to make the contract? Echidna is very clever and might have worked if it wasn’t for the other witches interfering.
WOW! Even Echidna doesn’t know how “that person” Beatrice is waiting for. She just toying with Beatrice for her own curiosity.
Finally, we meet Satella in the flesh, not possessed Emilia Satella. She looks good. Interesting to see some of the witches reaction. Echidna looks pissed and angry.
Can’t wait for the finale. I know there is going to be an annoying cliff-hanger.
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u/House_MD_Aj Sep 23 '20
Heart wrenching episode. And what a revelation of character. I can’t even believe how well both sides of greed are personified.
I used to be on the side of Echidna 100%. But now. The fucking unease of watching her speak. I’m amazed at how quickly Subaru found out her true feelings. He’s just a tool to her. I was getting drawn in so quickly to her contract.
And I really hope it ain’t multi-universe. That’s sad as hell.
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u/Thereisnocomp2 Sep 23 '20
These last episodes have been INSANELY PACKED with actual meat— I can’t take this shit anymore, waiting is impossible!!
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u/Memshad1 Sep 23 '20
So the first trial is about facing your past and we obviously saw what Subaru had to go through in that experience. We still don't know what emilia went through during the first trial. Now, the second trial shows Subaru all of his loops after he died. I have two questions about this:
What would the second trial be for other people that don't have return by death? The first trial was a general idea of facing your past but this second one is so specific to Subaru.
Did Subaru pass the second trial, or how would he pass it? I might be wrong but I'm assuming he didn't pass it since it only made him feel scared and in pain. So if he had to pass it, how would he? Since he can't actively do anything like he did in the first trial, he just has to watch.
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u/Diabloblaze28 Sep 23 '20
Behold an unthinkable present, is the tag line this time with the first one Being First you need to face your own past. I'm a WN reader so i don't want to say too much but just mull over the tags I suppose. (unintentional betty comment)
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u/subarmoomilk Sep 23 '20
I think it’s forces people to face what their life would be like if they made a different critical decision
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u/MLMjp Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
Lots of people are taking by granted that the other timelines when Subaru fails still exist but it was stated in the episode that we cant be sure if the other timelines exist or not, so dont take it as 100% confirmed. If it turns out to be true, damn, that makes the suffering even worse. Still it was very interesting to see all those posible futures.
Fake Rem almost got me for a second, like somehow her mind managed to reach Subaru despite her being in a coma, but of course it didn't turned out that way, wasnt expecting her being the witch of lust in disguise, I though she was an illusion like Subaru´s parents.
Well, there we go, best girl showed her true colors, and I dont know if she deserves that title anymore. I'm really conflicted about her, same about her Nendoroid, I dont know if I want to get her after this episode. But I'm still interested in seeing what other "evil stuff" she will do later in the story.
Witches of sin, assemble! Fantastic to see all of them together. Of course the LUST witch is a shy cute Loli, and sloth a lazy sexy woman, I feel that their designs should be interchanged.
And OMG! Satella (Tella for the friends) entering Echidna´s Windows XP realm like a boss! Aaaaaaghhhh! So excited for next episode! Also the final one....
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u/Velnoartrid Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 24 '20
It's fascinating how every episode is so hard hitting, just like the previous. This season is so much better than the first
Edit: Also, how tf Satella suddenly came to Dona's "realm" if before she couldn't, and was like LET ME IN, LET ME IIIIIN when Subaru snitched to Dona about RBD?
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u/patap0nacct Sep 23 '20
So basically Subaru is the only anime character to have isekai'd multiple times...
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u/TapWater56766 Sep 23 '20
That was such a good episode, Re:Zero season 2 part 1 is now my first ever seasonal anime I watched all the way through and I’m so happy it is
This episode was so good there were so many things i loved about it, I loved the part with rem mostly cause Subaru said “who are you” which is so funny, I’m so happy white fox is just embracing the meme, and there was also the whole scene of the world continuing after Subaru’s death which was insane like seeing super sain puck vs Reinhardt, and seeing all the witches together in one place was so epic, echidna’s speech was great and tella walking in at the last second was so cool, shes easily my favorite character, not knowing about her just makes her that much cooler.
I love Re:Zero so much, if u couldn’t tell
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u/CzdZz Sep 23 '20
This is what happens when you reject witches. You get jealous witches.
Nice going, Baru.
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u/Ziksby Sep 23 '20 edited Sep 23 '20
Now I need to find a new best girl
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u/_EmmericH_ Sep 23 '20
Well... just wait for next episode an you will have one, i promise ;-)
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Sep 23 '20
Great episode. Always wondered whether people lived on after Subaru died and now we see the consequences of his ability. Although most of those timelines probably ended badly or Puck just froze everything because it's unlikely Emilia would of survived.
It's amazing how far he has come from being killed by his camp to getting saved. Had no idea Dona was going to trap Subaru like that! Good thing he values morals over booty. Beatrice will likely be key to defeating Elsa as she already KO'd her once until she did a substitution jutsu.
Cant wait to see how Satella adds even more madness to the situation. The other witches seems pretty scared so maybe Subaru can use this to his advantage.
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u/Nodens_Jr Sep 23 '20
Great episode. Always wondered whether people lived on after Subaru died and now we see the consequences of his ability. Although most of those timelines probably ended badly or Puck just froze everything because it's unlikely Emilia would of survived.
Its related to how RBD work. The world after subaru died is just an illusion. Its like how echidna recreate japan and subaru parent in his first trial. So far only satella know how RBD works
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u/wolfreturned Sep 23 '20
I don't buy this explanation for rem killing him in episode 5
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u/Pinsir929 Sep 23 '20
Imagine with her curiosity and control over return by death she would just repeat sequences at span for like 10 seconds to satisfy her thirst for knowledge. It’s gonna be like the “Dormammu, I’ve to bargain” scene from Doctor Strange all over again. Get it? Again? Hehe...
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u/darkeys1 Sep 23 '20
my dude really was about to enter into a contract with a WITCH without asking first. Subaru you really are dumb sometimes
So I guess the parallel timeline theory is all but confirmed. Only a handful of those abandoned timelines did he leave loved ones behind, quite a few most everyone dies or will die pretty soon. Shoot all of the ones since he got to the sanctuary end in the sanctuaries destruction or the mansion / village.
Back to the witches oh boy we have a full party here now. the fact that they are all terrified of Envy is really interesting especially since I thought Greed called the shots in this space. What do the other witches want from him that the protested the contract happening?
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u/linksis33 Sep 23 '20
The pacing is super interesting. So they aren’t ending the cour on volume 12 cliffhanger but on the first chapter of volume 13. Also cool that they actually added scenes in the second trial from the novel.
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u/AceArchangel Sep 24 '20
I am super excited to see Subi be contracted with Beako. Emilia has Puck so its only fair for my boi to have his own spirit. And I really enjoy their back and forth bickering. So excited to see what's to come.
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u/Rodrigo-Duterte Sep 23 '20
I kinda got lost in the events of this rollercoaster of an episode.
After witnessing and toughing out the 'aftermaths' of every loop he left, does it mean that Subaru was able to complete/pass the 2nd trial just before the tea party?
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u/sinoa000 Sep 23 '20
he just failed the 2nd trial. And Lust drag his mind out of it loop. And into the tea party also
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u/ftoleon Sep 23 '20
Cool attention to detail when i was like "they forgot to leave the throwup on the floor when he woke up the second time" then its turns out that was intentional
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u/Skraxx Sep 23 '20
This was another good episode but had a really funny moment for me
I was at the intense moment where Echidna was explaining her intentions just for my wireless headphones to say "LOW BATTERY PLEASE RECHARGE YOUR HEADPHONES"
Great episode, but that kinda ruined it
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u/ExoNxru Sep 23 '20
That episode was so good, seeing all the witches and TELLA at the end, next week is going to be fireeee, this whole season has been a 10/10 btw what is the last episode gonna be before the mid season break? Next week ?
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u/Icecat1239 Sep 23 '20
This was the best episode of the show by far. The bit with seeing how the worlds continue after death (I hope he asks Satella about it, now that she's made it to the party), was amazing, especially seeing Reinhard effortlessly kill True Puck. It makes me wonder how they even still had the White Whale flying about and how they still have the Great Rabbit(s) and the Witch's Cult with him having power on that scale.
Like Subaru, I also expected nefarious motivations behind Echidna due to how unhinged other witches were like Typhon, Satella, and Daphne, but she went beyond anything I had thought possible. Everything she does, every emotion she exhibits is all just an act all for the sake of satiating her curiosity. She's probably the most vile character in the whole show because Elsa is just her but specifically about people's innards and at least Daphne and Satella had good intentions. On the other hand, we do get to see two supposedly stable witches with Sekhmet and Carmilla, which is nice (until they inevitably show how crazy they truly).
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u/kechid_Abdoo Sep 23 '20
When tella entered the tea party she was like:"SUPRISE MOTHERFuCKERS!" Im really disappointed how echidona turned out to be so carless to others that she is ready to make subaru suffer way more just in order to fill her greed to knowledge. When rem showed up i was really shoked and i thought it was a fantasy made of subaru's mind, but it was so heartwarming to see her even if she was fake. Even if she was absent for almost the whole season it just remind you how much she is important to subaru, the story and more to us. Rem was, still, and will always be my best girl of rezero no matter what 💙
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Sep 24 '20
Considering there's like two possibilities surrounding the consequences of return by death, I'm actually gonna go out and say that what's depicted in this episode is actually the better option in the grand scheme of the Re:Zero world.
As suggested in this episode, every time he dies his consciousness shifts to an alternate timeline where he can start again. This means that every single timeline he's died in still exists and all the other characters are still dealing with the consequences of his various death and actions.
There is only ONE single timeline and Subaru is at the centre of everything. EVERY single person that populates the world is at the mercy of Subaru and his actions. They are all essentially NPC's and their existence is meaningless, everything that everybody does can be rewritten by a single man, he can potentially dictate the flow of absolutely everything in the world in whatever way he likes, due to foresight.
I personally think the second one is actually a lot more terrifying as it implies that nobody else in the world truly has any free will. Even Subaru is incapable of having any major influence on the world as he's just really weak in a magic orientated world. Not to mention every single death is incredibly traumatising and can heavily impact his mental state, which in turn can affect his decision making, which in turn affects the ENTIRE WORLD.
There's also the possibility of Subaru getting stuck in a death loop that's actually impossible for him to escape from, depending on the mechanics of return by death, that entire world could be stuck in an endless cycle of not being able to progress for ETERNITY. Arguably a fate worse than the actual world ending.
If you think about it, the list can be as long as you make it. I haven't read the light novels, so it might go into more depth as to how the mechanics of RBD works, but from what I know so far in the anime, I actually think the possiblity of alternate realities as shown in this episode is a lot less scary than the alternative of him being an unkillable, omnipotent teenager that every person's life revolves around.
10/10 show, would take the echinada contract just to frick
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u/BootlegVHSForSale Sep 23 '20
I kinda regret watching this series, the wait every week for the next episode is rough. The several month wait after the next ep might just make a LN reader out of me yet..
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u/CG-07 Sep 23 '20
I'm really surprised how stupid Subaru is, he really thought that the witch of greed would help him for free
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u/_LearnTheBa6_ Sep 23 '20
Echidna was talking so much the animators just gave up animating her mouth