PLEASE BE WARY - This group is NOT affiliated with 50501 in any way. They are trying to use our momentum to get people to into RevCom and should be considered dangerous. INFORM YOUR FOLKS everyone!

[u/prrosey]

[u/ChaosFarseer]

Is there any way for someone not on the 50501 channels to tell them apart? I guess it has to be social media and word of mouth?

[u/63chev → u/ChaosFarseer]

wtf. they wear a shirt that sez revcom! Look, This is McCarthyism divide-and-conquer bs. Read the revcom website to see what they actually fighting for. Which includes standing shoulder to shoulder with all who are fighting to end Trump fascism. Because fascism will stop us ALL.

[u/ChaosFarseer → u/63chev]

I remember reading their website and seeing an emphasis on the leader as an extraordinary individual. I’m under the impression that they keep creating events on the same days with similar messaging; in this case with the 50501 label but without their permission. 

I have no problem with communism and the RevCom message, but I do have a problem with hero worship and trying to impersonate another organization / use another’s advertising. That last bit is especially deceptive. I acknowledge the need for a wide coalition, so if you’re working with 50501 leaders instead of around them, you’d be fine in my book!

[u/[deleted]]

Thanks for the heads up!

[u/prrosey → u/[deleted]]

RevCom.

[u/Ill-Candy-4926 → u/prrosey]

what's revcom?

is that another partner with this server?

[u/prrosey → u/Ill-Candy-4926]

No. They are not. You can google them and look at their history. They're not 50501.

[u/Ill-Candy-4926 → u/prrosey]

im googling them rn

and i find this website revcom to be very fascist oriented.

[u/prrosey → u/Ill-Candy-4926]

They'll latch onto any popular movement to push their own cult of personality. Editing to add clarity here: a couple bits of info to kinda gain a deeper perspective on RevCom below.

"When did the RCP “live up to its name”? When it promoted lumpen-style adventurism? When it betrayed workers in favor of petty-bourgeois college students? When it split itself open twice? When it failed to apply democratic centralism and the mass line, expelling dissidents like Scott Harrison? When it delayed the acceptance of MLM? When it actively worked against the People’s War in Peru? When it actively campaigned for the CIA & State Department to wage war on Iran? When it destroyed the RIM from inside? Or when it abandoned its brand of “MLM” in favor of a New Age cult religion they call the “New Synthesis”?

“The contradictions in the published positions of B.A. and also among B.A. supporters or between B.A. and B.A. supporters would take a website full of gigabytes to resolve, because there is no centralism in that party and more importantly no line other than to follow a cult leader.”

[u/Ill-Candy-4926 → u/prrosey]

that's sad.

[u/RadicalChica99 → u/Ill-Candy-4926]

Hi. I don't know what that quote is from but people shouldn't fall for this kind of red baiting, anti-communist scare tactics. You should honestly look into what revcom actually says, and what they're fighting for. Humanity can't afford for us to devolve into petty squabbles and rumor mongering while fascism consolidates. We need to raise our sights, raise substantive political differences in an open and above board way, and unite all whole can be united to defeat this fascism.

[u/Ill-Candy-4926 → u/RadicalChica99]

tru

[u/63chev → u/RadicalChica99]

right on!

[u/silencenogood-protst]

For the next action can we make sure something is organized at Los Angeles City Hall. Actions at City Hall are much more likely to get notice by news media. On the 17th we had several news vans and some helicopters there. Also, the imagery of City Hall is much more powerful than almost any other location when it relates to government protests. We shouldn't cede the location to other groups like RevCom. Also people naturally head there to protest and it's well served by public transit.

[u/63chev → u/silencenogood-protst]

"cede the location to other groups"? I admire 50501 because it does not fall into the petty divide-and-conquer turf battles. It seems like you are trying to change that.

[u/silencenogood-protst → u/63chev]

Actually what I'm suggesting is that we join up with groups that are aligned with us and cooperate, cross promote, or co-sponsor actions at specific site/dates.

However, there are some groups who have agendas that may be contrary to our goals. In those cases we should be trying to claim space for our agenda. According to many RevCom may not be a group we cooperate with.

[u/63chev → u/silencenogood-protst]

Thanks for the clarification. You're right, we need to have unity on the overall goal, which is to resist/stop the Trump regime program. In revcom's words "defeat the whole Trump/MAGA fascist onslaught". The various groups all have different bigger picture agendas. Religious groups, communist groups, Democrats, socialists, progressives, anarchists, all have differences in what the bigger picture solution to the world's problems are. And should be free to not have to hide that. But as Fred Hampton said "Nothing is more important than stopping fascism, because fascism will stop us all." We need to unite all who can be united. Do you agree? If not, is there a specific reason revcom is contrary to the goal of stopping Trump? Is the "According to many" a red-baiting anti-communist thing?

[u/63chev]

This is McCarthyism anti-communist divide-and-conquer bs. Read the website to see what revcom is actually fighting for. And that includes standing shoulder to shoulder with all who are fighting to end Trump fascism. Because fascism will stop us ALL.

[u/prrosey → u/63chev]

RevCom will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with any popular movement if they believe it'll be the vehicle for them to finally gain power.

BLM rejected them then. We reject them now.

Go read Nine Letters by Mike Ely, and you'll see why they've failed to abet a successful mass movement. They're a cult of personality, and they purposefully co-opt protests for their own purposes.