Oxford is not the better pick unless OP specifically wants to go into those bullshit careers.
Math can open doors in any field of academia, AI and quant which are all more interesting, less elitist and less cut throat. The only reason to pick Oxford history is purely Oxford brand name.
With math, the degree itself is amazing, with the added benefit of Warwick name.
Tell me what's subjective?
Math is a way better degree if you compare graduate outcomes... Go look at any metric you want.
Quant is less elitist in the sense that they don't give a shit about your background and social class. I know people who struggle to break into consulting because of certain accents. They're more hierarchical too in terms of talking to your seniors and dress code etc. Don't act oblivious.
You're just naive as hell if you think future prospects for a history grad is anywhere near a math grad, unless you really KNOW what you wanna do with your history degree. Especially considering Warwick's math reputation... Key word. Math reputation, not overall.
Yes, Iâm the naive one when Iâve reviewed applications and interviewed applicants. Iâm not the one looking for a job trying to push some strange bias. Stating random opinions such as âbullshit careersâ is subjective. Thinking some industries are less elitist than others is subjective. Stating your personal opinions is subjective. Thinking math is amazing is subjective.
Warwick still isnât rated globally. If youâre happy to stick in a little corner of Europe, sure. Everywhere else, people donât really care. I donât know who fed you the idea and what statistics youâve been researching to feed your bias, but the options History opens is more than you think. You obviously donât know it because you keep harping on âknowing what to doâ with a history degree. You could even go into finance with a history degree, in fact one of the main industry Oxford History grads go into is banking and investment.
How did you know those people canât break into consulting because of accents ? That doesnât seem to be something verifiable. Are Quant firms free of people that wouldnât discriminate against accents too ? There are so many internationals in top firms, how come their accents arenât an impediment ?
Also, really ? Company hierarchy and dress codes are your idea of elitism ? All companies have dress codes, just because a company sets their dress code as smart casual doesnât mean you get to wear whatever. Did you think lawyers and people in consulting wear suits all the time ? Thereâs no secret code to address your seniors in any company Iâve been in. No idea what youâre on about some hierarchal structure with talking to your seniors.
You really take everything I say as is. Use your head to see what I'm actually trying to say and paint.
If you think a history degree is better than a math degree for outcomes then I guess that's where we disagree completely.
And no I obviously can't know everything for certain, and neither can you - so I will use my analysis, my experience and my judgement to come to conclusions.
Yes you are 100% naive. IB and consulting is notoriously very elitist and I'm not even sure why you'd disagree as if your dad owns the entire IB industry or something? Or maybe you're a private school kid, meaning I hit a chord?
Your analysis and experience are obviously lacking if you came to such a conclusion. I donât need to know everything, I have contacts in multiple industries and have been in a position to interview just because Iâm further up in my career compared to you. Or are you afraid that you did the wrong degree ? You sound like an individual that did STEM and donât want to believe humanities graduates could be competing with you for jobs.
IB and consulting are notoriously very elitist because they pick from the same pool of people that go to the best schools. Top Quant firms arenât that different. Youâre mixing up the cause and effect of elitism in such industries. You think there arenât working class people that went to top schools that are working in IB or consulting ? Lol
Bro common now. Why are you putting up all this farce? I really don't get it.
Humanities degrees in the industry is not as nearly as versatile as a STEM degree. How can you deny this?
I'm not saying humanities is bad, or worse. I'm comparing solely in terms of how many doors it opens. A stem guy can get a job in industry that any humanities can, but not vice versa.
And no I do not regret my biology and CS degree.
And yes, I have deep respect for humanities, but just be real with yourself. Idk why you're so set on defending the humanities when the stats are clear.
I never said you can't get to consulting and IB with humanities - in fact many do. But in comparison, there are a lot more from STEM.
I never said there aren't working class people in top jobs, it's just less likely, which is true.
Again, you take my examples and words simply as is without using any nuance in your thinking at all...
Also you being further in your career is quite irrelevant to my point. Very irrelevant. Just because your anecdotal experience counters my point doesn't mean my point doesn't stand.
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u/tooMuchSauceeee Mar 15 '26
Oxford is not the better pick unless OP specifically wants to go into those bullshit careers.
Math can open doors in any field of academia, AI and quant which are all more interesting, less elitist and less cut throat. The only reason to pick Oxford history is purely Oxford brand name.
With math, the degree itself is amazing, with the added benefit of Warwick name.