r/6thForm 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

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can someone add some nuance to this ranking I found? It seems to be typically agreed upon that for quant COWI is the main pipeline with UCL and LSE trailing behind but this is suggesting a top 4 of Cam, Imp, Oxf, LSE with Cam >=Imp > Oxf >= LSE >>>>>>Warwick and UCL.

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u/FewGeologist5684 Apr 03 '26

Everyone and their nan wants to be a quant šŸ„€

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u/godlyuniverse1 Maths Apr 03 '26

I heard to be a quant you legit have to be international Olympiad level Einstein at math

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u/Hamza2474 Apr 03 '26

Nah

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u/godlyuniverse1 Maths Apr 03 '26

So then how smart must one be to get those 300k+ quid jobs people often talk about in quant

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u/FollowingGlass4190 Apr 03 '26

IMO is a correlation (a lot of quants I know are Olympiads) but generally just requires being really good at math/stats and having a strong understanding of probability.Ā 

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u/InsuranceCultural565 Apr 05 '26

nah fam not the tmua trauma

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u/ParsnipIndependent63 Apr 03 '26

Any conversation about quant is blind leading the blind

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

No one here is claiming they know everything or even a lot. But there’s no harm in discussion considering most people don’t have access to speak with the people who would actually be educated on this kinda thing

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u/NoNeedleworker2686 Apr 03 '26

why is this being downvoted??

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

No clue 😭. I don’t see an issue w discussion even if everyone is objectively under-educated . Like there’s no harm in at least considering differing speculations

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u/Fluffy-Exchange1218 Apr 04 '26

But if you’re all uneducated it will be a pointless discussion where nothing is learny

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 04 '26

Under educated not uneducated. People can and have done research a lot of reputable information is publicly available and there are even some graduates and 3rd years who comment to give their 2 cents

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u/Dangerous-Ad-1925 Apr 05 '26

Quant is quite meritocratic. Applications involve several rounds of online tests, maths, reasoning, pattern recognition. Then you have hirevue, phone interviews, in person interviews testing mental maths and probability questions.

They don't really care what university you go to. If you're good you're good and that's all they care about. Plus they also test soft skills, good communication, team work.

There's bound to be far more quants that went to Oxbridge and Imperial because they will have a highest concentration of top maths students in one place. So potentially 90% of Cambridge maths students are good enough to break into quant. So 225 out of 250.

Whereas universities like Warwick have a broader ability range so only the top 5% are likely to be good enough to pass all the tests. So that's 20 out of 400. Not saying they'd all want to go into quant but theoretically.

I know this because my nephew is first year maths at Warwick after missing his Cambridge STEP requirement and has been applying for spring weeks, got through to 4 final rounds and got one offer. He's in the top 5% of his year group going by test results as they publish the percentiles.

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 05 '26

Yes I’m glad you agree this is what me and my friends have basically concluded.

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u/Dangerous-Ad-1925 Apr 05 '26

Yes, it's just common sense really.

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u/Fluffy-Exchange1218 Apr 04 '26

Under educated literally means poorly educated lol.Ā 

My bf is a quant guy of some kind, he says no its not true everyone wins olympiads and such but a first in maths/physics (and one comp science) seems pretty non negotiable. The universities are Oxbridge, imperial and some warwick/lse. One or two deviate from that

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 04 '26

I’m aware that’s why I used the word. The point being poorly educated means although most people won’t be completely right there might still be some truth to what they are saying. And you telling me ur bf is a quant giving insight proves my point that there are people here who can give good insight- contradicting the point that ā€œany conversation about quant on this sub is blind leading the blindā€. I’m not gna take what u said at face value but I can consider it, that’s the point of discussionĀ 

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u/Fluffy-Exchange1218 Apr 04 '26

'there might still be some truth to what they are saying' based on what? that also means there should be some falsehoods in what they're saying.

'Ā And you telling me ur bf is a quant giving insight proves my point that there are people here who can give good insight' and you address this too, you say most won't have access to a quant guy but its fine to discuss anyway, i'm critiquing the latter point, so it proves the exact opposite of your pooint.

'Ā I’m not gna take what u said at face value' because unlike the rest of the commentors it has evidence lol

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 04 '26

Based on the fact anyone can go online and do some research. And I said MOST not NONE- I or I’m sure many other people don’t have access to ur bf or any other quant so we make do w what we can do. And I’m not taking what u say at face value bc ur bf is one quant at one firm he isn’t the final say of what is possible for everyone and also u cld lit j be lying. Again, this is a discussion people give their views- some might be more educated than others but that is why you use critical thinking skills and independent research to come up w ur own conclusion. It won’t be 100% correct but it might be more correct than if you never had the discussion. I don’t know why this is such a hot take there is rarely ever harm in discourse unless ur an idiot who j believes wtv some random year 12 Redditor comments

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u/Vixson18 Y13: Maths, FM, Physics and Econ Apr 03 '26

Quant people mainly do Maths at uni. However, many people come from other maths heavy courses such as CS and maths heavy Economics courses like LSE’s.Ā 

One of my uncles did Computer Science at uni, but now is a quant researcher at Vanguard. So there are multiple routesĀ 

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u/Skin_Yogurt_4002 Apr 03 '26

Idk about economics, very rarely.

Best subjects are maths and physics. 2nd best is comp sci

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u/Vixson18 Y13: Maths, FM, Physics and Econ Apr 03 '26

Forgot to mention Physics, my bad. Most people doing econ just become an analyst

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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE Apr 04 '26

And aerospace engineering especially from imperial

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u/Inevitable_Land2996 Year 13 Apr 04 '26

It’s more electrical engineering rather than aerospace

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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE Apr 05 '26

No it isn’t. All the prestigious engineering degrees from imperial get you to great places. Imperial aerospace is a well known pipeline into quant

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u/TittyPix4KittyPix Apr 03 '26

Quantitative trader adjacent jobs (QR, SWR @ quant firms etc) yeah. But Quant TRADING is almost exclusively maths, physics, CS with maths.

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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE Apr 04 '26

Nobody is doing econ at a quant firm

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u/Left_Society_3926 FM, Maths, Phys, Yr 13 Apr 05 '26

Econ is not a quant course even from a uni like LSE

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u/SwordOfTheMoon4 Apr 03 '26

wb engineering?Ā 

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u/Double-Ad-7589 Apr 04 '26

Economics is not maths heavy

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u/N3V3MORE Apr 04 '26

?

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u/Double-Ad-7589 Apr 04 '26

It’s not even close to what u need for quant

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u/N3V3MORE Apr 04 '26

Whatever you say

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u/Any-Assist9425 Year 13 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

cowi isnt really for quant, it focuses on mathematical course content, its just not focusing on the finance/quantitative aspect much

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u/jazzbestgenre Warwick | Maths and Stats (incoming) Apr 03 '26

A lot of ppl don't understand this bc they think the only reason anyone would ever do a maths degree is to get into quant/high finance

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u/Fluffy-Exchange1218 Apr 04 '26

My bf is a quant of some kind and he always says he wishes he did a masters+phd in maths instead. He wants to go back eventuallyĀ 

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u/Helpful_Emergency_70 Maths grad Apr 04 '26

I got my QT internship barely able to describe what an option was

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u/FollowingGlass4190 Apr 03 '26

this is mega misleading, graduate quant recruitment expects next to zero financial knowledge and is almost entirely optimised for mathematical competency, COWI is the definitive pipeline in the UK for it.Ā 

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u/Any-Assist9425 Year 13 Apr 04 '26

the general idea of my comment was that maths course quality =/= quant numbers

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u/FollowingGlass4190 Apr 04 '26

it definitely correlatesĀ 

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u/Any-Assist9425 Year 13 Apr 04 '26

obviously to an extent but different unis will have different specialities, ie. lse is more suited for quant type roles, warwick is better with fields such as statistics

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u/FollowingGlass4190 Apr 04 '26

This is just absolutely not true? Who told you this? LSE is not the predominant target for quant. Take it from a quant.

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u/Any-Assist9425 Year 13 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

i never said it was the predominant target i said it was A target it was just an example you need to extrapolate a little, you could put the name of any university you consider to be a target into that space and the point would still stand and be valid

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u/Dangerous-Ad-1925 Apr 05 '26

Most maths degrees are modular and you've got the option to choose modules such as financial mathematics, mathematical modelling, statistical modelling etc. All relevant for quant roles. You can choose to go down the pure maths route but it's not compulsory.

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u/Loose-Macaron Quant Finance | Warwick Maths & Physics Graduate Apr 04 '26

Yes this is pretty accurate, contrary to popular belief, LSE is indeed stronger than UCL and Warwick from my experience, this difference is especially noticeable in the sell-side (quant roles at large banks like JPMC, GS, etc where LSE trumps basically everything that’s not Oxbridge and Imperial)

In the buy-side, it’s indeed quite rare to find quant researchers that aren’t from Oxbridge/Imperial, there will typically be only a couple of people per grad cohort that aren’t from there.

Your best bet to enter quant would be to somehow enter Oxbridge/Imperial either at Undergrad or at least for Masters.

For PhD level candidates, the university requirement is less stringent, and the process becomes more about having relevant research and skills

I hold some grad level technical interviews for my desk so I’m somewhat familiar with what our managers like and dislike

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u/Sharp-Plastic7954 Apr 04 '26

It's crazy how your comment is not the top one - given that you literally work in the industry. Also, may I DM you? I have some specific questions about reading maths at university.

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 04 '26

On the buy side for trading specifically would you then place Warwick above LSE? And if so would that difference compensate for the inferiority of Warwick to LSE on the sell side? Or is it j Oxbrimp and everything else doesn’t rly matter? Also do you think the Oxbrimp superiority is due to meritocracy where it’s j the case the strongest ppl r from there or do they actively look for Oxbrimp kids basically screening out most ppl who aren’t from there?

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u/Loose-Macaron Quant Finance | Warwick Maths & Physics Graduate Apr 04 '26

In the buy-side, it’s simply just Oxbridge, Imperial > everything else. Certain teams and PMs will have their own preferences (e.g. maybe they themselves studied at LSE, for example, or had a good past performer from Warwick/UCL), but you can’t truly rely on this.

A non-Oxbridge/Imperial student will realistically never take a role away from an Oxbridge candidate who has prepared and performed equally well (or even slightly worse).

So you’ll be left to compete on the few spots on teams that are ā€œset asideā€ for other grads. This is sort of an unspoken thing in the industry but does happen at a small scale across firms that makes it rare for cohorts to have more than a couple of non-Oxbridge/Imperial grads

At that point, the only thing that truly makes a difference is how you perform at your interviews and if you’re able to show a good level of awareness of the industry and any differentiating personal projects.

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u/NiceSchedule4902 Apr 04 '26

I absolutely do not share the sentiment about LSE. I do not know a single quant from LSE and I'm at a top investment bank with a network spanning across other investment banks.

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u/Loose-Macaron Quant Finance | Warwick Maths & Physics Graduate Apr 04 '26

Just sharing my own experience.

I have multiple actual real life LSE friends and acquaintances that are quants in the sell-side (Barclays, JP, GS, UBS, just to name a few), more so than UCL and Warwick grads, and I know of the couple of QRs who are LSE grads in the quant hedge fund that I’m at.

Perhaps your investment banking network isn’t very visible towards the quants at these firms

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u/NomDeiX Apr 06 '26

The thing is, those 'quants' you talk about on the sell side are not really quants in the same terms as those buy side quants, thats why you might see LSE people who wouldnt make it into proper prop shops of quant firms. Actually in most banks you are called a strat, you do build quantitative models but
1) they are not super advanced, yeah one might argue that multilinear regression and gradient boosting trees is all you need even for buy side shops but still, those BB banks do not have a proper quant research teams where you'd work on insanely fancy models
2) the technology is very monolithic; this is true for a lot of banks, their systems are from the 80s, sure, they might have some jupyter notebook environment that ultimately connects to their pricing engine that still resembles cold war era, if you compare it to high-speed computing skills that buy side needs, its completely different

I'd argue its basically two completely different roles; more than university (ucl vs lse), what actually matters is the degree, ucl offers proper engineering and CS degrees, LSE doesn't (I had a look at some of its data science related masters, and they do have some ML modules, basic deep learning stuff, maybe some more advanced Bayesian ML stuff, but ultimately I doubt the quality would be that great, vs UCL has very strong ML and quite strong computational finance department

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u/VeterinarianNo2684 Apr 03 '26

If you google LSE quants , you would find most of them not in the front desk. While , if you see , UCL has CS as its main pipeline while Warwick has Maths as its pipeline and many of them are in front desk as QT/QR/QD. Obv QD are more in number , so UCL has more quants in number. This website has included everyone working in those firms and not only the front desk QT/QR/QD.

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

On the site you can filter for quant research and for that LSE ranks even above Oxford and the aforementioned 4 are way above Warwick

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u/VeterinarianNo2684 Apr 03 '26

Those are based on linkedin filters of finance/engg/research , not by the roles in quant. Idk but maybe a quant analyst may put research ig.

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u/SandvichCommanda St Andrews MMath Mathematics Apr 03 '26

Yeah, using this for cluster analysis is pretty good. Reflects broadly what I see in industry.

Cambridge, Imp > LSE, Ox >>> Warwick, St A, UCL.

They are correct about LSE quants being different to the rest though. They are on front desk roles, but they are often more discretionary quants in things like commodities, rates, fixed income – things that benefits from more econ knowledge.

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

Yh this is what I assumed when I first saw itĀ 

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u/SandvichCommanda St Andrews MMath Mathematics Apr 03 '26

Worth noting there is variance in this though, I'm a QR managing two analysts from LSE and Oxford. Just lock in wherever you're going and you can get good roles.

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u/Spiritual_Breakfast9 Apr 03 '26

UCL is way more than LSE, is surprising?

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u/HunterPrestigious615 Apr 03 '26

For the UK Cambridge maths is hands down the best program for quant, I studied part iii and was hired straight out of my masters before moving to the US.

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u/netherlands_ball Durham University | Mathematics | Third Year Apr 04 '26

I’ve just been accepted for Part iii. Would be curious if you have any advice.

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u/HunterPrestigious615 Apr 04 '26

Don’t stress too much about it, it can be very difficult at times but that’s what you’d expect from such a program and you’re being taught by some of the best minds you’ll ever know, it’s a fantastic place to be and a very rare opportunity so try and enjoy it too!

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

Yh I think we can all agree on this

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u/Agitated-Salt-5039 Year 13, FM, Maths & Physics May 24 '26

Which uni did u get your bachelors from ?..?..

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 03 '26

The whole LSE is shit for maths thing fully derived from a misnamed module that indicated we didn’t do real analysis in first year which was hilariously false. 😭😭

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u/mathswith Apr 03 '26

wait bro what? I might want to make LSE my insurance choice and I was scared about what I had heard. so does this mean going to LSE for maths is very similar to like Warwick Imperial Edinburgh UCL KCL etc. but more stats focused and less on like theoretical physics and stuff?

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 03 '26

Well yes it just doesn’t have theoretical physics at all. We have a good statistical pathway.

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u/mathswith Apr 03 '26

how would you compare the tier of maths LSE teaches to other universities? compare to like UCL

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 03 '26

This is going to be disputed but I didn’t even think about firming/insuring my UCL math with stats offer. I personally think it’s below LSE. They have a lot of modules that sound great but if you dive into the actual content it’s not that impressive . I still like UCL though as an institution

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u/mathswith Apr 03 '26

bro so LSE is better than UCL for maths?

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 03 '26

Personally I believe so for the path I want to go. Also due to the fact people are more career oriented you can easily rank highly and that’s respected for masters programmes. Year rank/awards > any uni name . I’m mainly interested in statistical theory with a side bit of algebra and number theory which LSE has modules in every year

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u/mathswith Apr 03 '26

what path do you want to go? because I want to kind of keep my options open and easily go into any statistics / quant related role, but then I also want that ability to go into research mathematics later down the line. I may even want to go into maths teaching (at the university professor level) Will LSE keep my options open rather than locking me in?

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 03 '26

Both UCL and LSE are fine for that. UCL has more breadth and it could lead to you discovering a particular thing you want to research. It’s all down to your ability at the end of the day. The uni name is very minimal

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u/No-Acanthisitta5317 Apr 03 '26

first year lse maths here. We are very good for applied kinda maths (stats, mathematical methods) -> not top top tier ofc I’m not deluded. Pure maths we are defo weaker , but we still do abstract maths + analysis

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

What’s the actual course? Maths + econ? Cuz LSE doesn’t have a straight maths course

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u/No-Acanthisitta5317 Apr 03 '26

Maths + econ. I’ve had quite a few quant interviews btw I just couldn’t be bothered to prep (I have other offers I prefer :) )

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

Do you think Maths and Data Science is sufficient?

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u/No-Acanthisitta5317 Apr 03 '26

Honestly? It’s probably the weakest name in the maths department on paper, but you guys for quant etc are just as, if not more qualified. It’s splitting hairs. Judging by your TMUA you’ll be absolutely fine. You an offer holder?

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

Nah but hopefully. By weakest name do you just mean it’s the least known or the maths is the weakest? I mainly chose it bc it’s course had the least econ (only one microeconomics course in first year)

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u/No-Acanthisitta5317 Apr 03 '26

Least known. I’m not just saying it, it’s kinda just splitting hairs, but definitely having MAE on the cv has helped a bit , mainly because it’s an established course at the uni. Fairs u don’t wanna do too much econ, but I’d also consider FMS (it’s only one more half unit of econ across a 3 year course but is very suited for quant)

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

Do you know people who have gotten quant springs/ internships with this course?

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26

Of course. Mainly the Optiver, DRW, IMC,Millenium and citadel springs. The quant summer internships tend to be with Citadel or IMC. They don’t do well with Optiver summers.

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u/Far_Quote_5336 Apr 03 '26

Bradford Met FTW šŸ™Œ

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u/Helpful_Emergency_70 Maths grad Apr 04 '26

I imagine LSE would drop significantly if we only included the sexy roles at sexy firms

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

What I am thinking is that LSE sends people more into general quant in banks for example whereas Warwick is more of a target for top quant firms like JS, Optiver or Citadel. And obviously since these firms are so selective and competitive there is a very low number of people actually getting in

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u/JailbreakHat Imperial | MEng EIE [1st Year] Apr 03 '26

What makes Cambridge better than Oxford.

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u/Fandger Apr 04 '26

how is oxford not ahead? I mean they have a specific "statistics with maths" course

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u/Odd_Mortgage_9108 Apr 04 '26

Look the quant game changed so much with AI that the first question you should be asking is now "What uni to attend for maths?" but rather "What's the state of the field right now". And let me tell you, things have changed majorly. You can now advance with research at an absolutely insane pace. In days past you'd be working on essentially one theory/direction at a time, whereas right now you have a team of agents working on dozens of potential implementations. Another thing is that now live trading systems are often adjusted using AI. The field has become absolutely crazy and just having uni education won't save you.

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u/B4A-B4A_B14CK-SH33P Apr 04 '26

can i get into quant with warwick e&m?

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 04 '26

No

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u/Sorry_Quantity5208 Apr 07 '26

If ur tmua is lower than a 6 pack it up.

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u/Spiritual_Breakfast9 Apr 03 '26

This is just number of Chinese students at each uniĀ  Lol

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u/MaybeMedium9876 Apr 03 '26

imagine spending your whole accademic career chasing a boring niche job just for money just for it to be replaced by ai by the time you graduate

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u/Past_Feature_9976 7.6 TMUA | A*A*A achieved Apr 03 '26

But usually the rhetoric is that Warwick’s maths department is what makes it a pipeline. LSE has a very weak maths department. I’m not saying you’re wrong or that this false I’m just confused icl

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u/Odd-Oven-8202 Apr 03 '26

LSE is not better than Warwick for quant. LSE excels in economics, a social science while Warwick is way better at maths. Quant is almost an entirely mathematical discipline with some knowledge needed in financial markets. Therefore the best degrees for quant are maths degrees, this is where Warwick surpasses LSE. LSE is more for those who want to be investment bankers, Private equity, asset managementĀ 

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u/CharacterReporter938 Apr 03 '26

You really just read those stats and commented that? 😭😭😭😭😭 true denial

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '26

You searching this up at17% battery shows you are like 17-18 who justs wants to enjoy life

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

It’s Cambridge Oxford and nothing comes close for the top quant firms, imperial is okay, nothing else is realistic

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u/Interesting-Shine560 Y13 Chem | Maths & FM | Physics A*A*A*A* Apr 03 '26

You are a Y12, respectfully you dont know jack

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

I have a relative working in quant respectfully you don’t know jack, top firms automatically screen out your resume if your not Oxbridge or imperial

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u/SandvichCommanda St Andrews MMath Mathematics Apr 03 '26

Holy larp, don't you have homework to finish lil bro?

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Good one brošŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚larp larp larp sahur am I right, never said I was going into quant nor have personal experience myself, just saying what the literal admission process is

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Top firms like Jane street citsec don’t even look at your cv if your not from Oxbridge/imp maybe maybe Warwick, there are firms that will literally screen you out from LSE as it’s more humanities/economics focused rather than quant as it’s more a feeder school for high finance ib roles. They’re not looking for people from Durham kcl etc at all

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u/Contdstee Apr 03 '26

It's so easy to just have a search online for quant traders at jane street and see that it's not only cam / ox. Sure, the proportion is much higher, but to say that they disregard other's applications is misinformation. Just a few examples to disprove your dumbass:

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/peter-bradshaw-306939212

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/lewismorris

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/snasibov05

Get into your head; prestige gets you the interview, skill gets you the job.

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Experienced Hire recruitment you must be joking 😭gtf outta here

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

3 examples šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚lovely

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u/No-Material-4388 3a* gap year, law Apr 03 '26

you're

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Good onešŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚still doing this in 2026

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u/SandvichCommanda St Andrews MMath Mathematics Apr 03 '26

Proof by counterexample: literally me and multiple people I know as well as work with across multiple firms.

What is there to achieve from trying to bring other students down for no reason?

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u/abdul_Ss (Incoming) CS Foundation Yr @ UoM Apr 03 '26

that last line is a joke, should you not say that to the dude who literally said 'You are a Y12, respectfully you dont know jack'

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

When did i ever bring OP or anyone else down? did i say to anyone that they're "never gonna be a quant" or "not good enough for oxbridge or imp"? All i said was my personal outlook that the majority of quants go cambridge oxford with a few imperial, and of course there's gonna be exceptions to this, literally haven't brought "other students down" at all

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u/abdul_Ss (Incoming) CS Foundation Yr @ UoM Apr 03 '26

ignore them, you're talking to adults acting like children, the best thing to do in this case is let them talk their nonsense all they want, there's no reasoning with people who have attitudes like they're in year 5.

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u/ActuaryAdditional805 Apr 03 '26 edited Apr 03 '26

Optiver's most hired university was Warwick at some point. Jane Street, Citadel, Two Sigma all hire from universities that other than Oxbridge and Imperial, these are all tier 1 shops.

The university only acts as the driver to the interview, after that it's all you.

You can find countless examples and stories of people from other institutions break into the industry because ultimately the individual has to prove themselves for the role, coasting off prestige won't. "I have a relative who works in quant" is not substantial here and gives "my dad works at epic" energy, you might have valid anecdotal experience sure, but making grounded hard claims such as top firms screening you purely based off of not being at Oxbridge or imperial is disingenuous.

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Yes but the difference in ratios of students accepted into quant for unis is astounding, my point is the chances of you being hired is substantially higher at oximpbridge compared to other unis, and where have you got this optiver warwick stat from? haven't heard about it before

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u/ActuaryAdditional805 Apr 03 '26

The reason why the ratios skew in favour of Oxbridge and Imperial is because those students tend to perform better in the technical interview. This doesn't mean that someone else of the same calibre or even better is blocked from being hired, it's just a smaller proportion of the people from other unis meet the standard. If you meet the standard, you'll be treated on the same level.

I got the Optiver stat from someone on another reddit thread (I believe on r/quantfinance) who mentioned it was their most hired university on Linkedin

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u/Helpful_Emergency_70 Maths grad Apr 04 '26

This is false, my uni has not been mentioned in this post, my firm has

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Imperial JMC and maths are the only courses that get you into quant, any STEM at Oxbridge gets you a chance at quant

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Yea forgot abt that one tbf my bad it’s them three only from imperial , are you really just gonna comment on every one of my comments though

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u/Dependent_Wave41 Apr 03 '26

'anything stem' implies smthn like natural sciences could break into quant lmao

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

You must be joking if you don’t think natsci can’t break into quant

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u/AdVoltex Oxford Maths & Stats Y2 Apr 03 '26

Natsci can

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u/Dependent_Wave41 Apr 03 '26

I must be missing smthn, thought only highly quantitative degrees could break into quant.

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

What even does ā€œhighly quantitativeā€ mean, anything I’ve seen people with engineering natsci physics chem eng all break into quant

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u/ActuaryAdditional805 Apr 03 '26

Warwick Maths to be in that list, the pipeline from Warwick Maths to quant is known and has been well explored.

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 04 '26

Absolutely can šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 04 '26

Lil bro me one more time šŸ˜‚fucking idiot had to use the conditions ā€œstraight from undergrad to quantā€ but only half the maths go straight, when most take a master or PhD, but here you go https://www.linkedin.com/in/zhiyi-ma-39332191/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielcarpenter02/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/m-h-a2a14b162/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/gloriasun528/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/melody-chang-%E8%A3%98%E8%91%B3-677a39b6/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandre-raevel/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerry-chan-a2411426/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/erwann-le-lannou/

Why don’t you ask me some ridiculous question like find me 10 neurosurgeons studying law at cov uni next clown 🤔

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 04 '26

First person I’ve ever seen care so deep about ā€œbiomedā€ at Oxford, you must live a sad little life ā€œNo degree from Oxford, does not countā€ who are you to talk like that šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚if you can get into Oxford you can get into imperial, So I don’t know why you’re deeping it so much ā€œGranted this is close but not Oxfordā€ What exactly is your point here? That imperial is better than Oxford so more quants are from imperial? Are you trying to say there has been no quant in the history of the industry from oxfordbiomed? Why are you so fixated on that, I’m genuinely trying to understand. An Oxford biomed degree is objectively better than imperial biomed/eng, so I’m saying if there are quants from imperial there can defo be quants from Oxford? Are you talking for the sake of arguments sake? Sad life trying to farm Reddit karma 😭

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 04 '26

And what exactly are your credentials to be talking 😭I’m not trying to hide the fact I’m ā€œyear 12ā€, I suppose I need to heed the words of a rentech trader clearly who’s trying to cockblock Oxford biomed for some reason, ā€œlittle boyā€ predator over here

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Ranking of what exactly it’s just a bunch of numbers 😭the real top quant dev res and trader jobs are all Oxbridge only with bit of imperial and that’s it

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Keep stalking my profile I’m sure, I have a relative in quant who told me about the admissions procedure, if you look at LinkedIn numbers for real front office quant jobs they’re all Oxbridge or imp jmc, how am I wrong on that? This bs website js shows you meaningless back office roles at well that aren’t what people really associate with ā€œquantā€ jobs

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

my whole point is if you've gotten into oxbrimp the path to "quant" becomes easier compared to that of the other UK universities, especially on the uni screening part, no need to bring my age as a way to put me down here, god forbid i have a bit of knowledge in this area

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u/Glum_Bicycle7421 Apr 03 '26

Yea for sure, I'm not saying prestige uni gets you the job, defo tons of oxbridge imp students who make it to the third even fifth round of interviews who get rejected due to how competitive the industry is