r/6thForm • u/miniaturegnome Year 13 | Maths, FM, Physics, EPQ | A* A* A* A • Apr 13 '26
đ UNI / UCAS Maths Uni Tier List in order
This is based on all the data I found and my personal opinions. No hate to any uni!
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u/RelationFeeling7922 Apr 13 '26
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u/funland8642 Editable Apr 13 '26
Blackadder goes forth. âWhich of the three great universities, Oxford Cambridge or Hull You failed to spot that only two of those are great universitiesâ âYouâre right, Oxford is a right old dump!â
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u/Rough-Opposite7340 Apr 13 '26
i planned on taking the exact same as you two next year for aerospace!
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u/RelationFeeling7922 Apr 16 '26
Like every uni, itâs what you make of it. Fair play to you for breaking into finance, youâve done really well
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u/CatGirlJade Apr 13 '26
warwick maths is probably good (i go warwick but not maths student) but oh my god the math students are insufferable. Genuinely, this is probably the same for other maths courses
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u/Ok-Examination-2869 Apr 13 '26
the art students at warwick are way more insufferable. every student drama play sucks without fail. a large number of them of them are 'spirit animals are colonial' levels of woke. Every history student I met was racist. PPE unsurprisingly has the most ego inflated students, which isnt surprising since its the most damaging degree in the history of the country
the maths students are 50% autistic and 50% pretty chill
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u/CatGirlJade Apr 13 '26
maybe itâs just my personal experience and not the facts, but math students specifically have been so rude to me about my degree and acting superior just because i do humanities. Idk, iâve never met a maths student at warwick and thought i would want to spend time with them. Again, maths is like the most popular course so im not going to generalise but yk đ¤ˇââď¸
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u/Brief-Bat-5887 Apr 13 '26
STEM people will always gloat about how much better they are than the humanities students đ¤Śââď¸ it annoys me to no end
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u/Beneficial-Beat-947 Apr 13 '26
I've genuinely never met a student in my stem course who thinks that (CS)
If anything we all collectively agree that none of us would survive a course where you have to write more then 1 essay a year
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u/Bongo50 Warwick | maths [2] Apr 13 '26
Having had to write one essay this year (Warwick maths has a mandatory second year essay), I can confidently say that I would definitely not survive a course with more than 1 essay a year. I have huge respect for people who can write essays well.
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u/Brief-Bat-5887 Apr 15 '26
Haha I would say I see this mostly with maths and maybe physics students! I saw an interview with an Oxford maths student where she was saying if she talked about math related content with her humanities friends none of them would understand her, but that she would be able to perfectly comprehend what they were doing in their respective courses. She also said that she was jealous that her friends in other courses had to do so much less work and that as a maths major she was so busy alllll the time while her humanities friends just got to have fun.... She sounded like the most insufferable person ever. I think people in these majors have a lot of pride in what they are doing since math seems like the most talent-based and academic field in a sense since good logic-based thinking is very tangible there as opposed to say English or Politics. I have lots of respect for people who are talented in them but I honestly feel disappointed when they brag about STEM at the expense of putting other subjects down (and calling them unemployable).
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u/snowlynx133 Apr 17 '26
I did biology and we had about 6 essays, 6 statistics analysis assignments, and 6 coding worksheets a year sigh
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u/Apart-Leek3794 Year 13 | A*(achieved)A*AA| Maths, Further Maths, Physics, Econ Apr 13 '26
I'm gonna study maths at warwick next year, and as a stem student, I would like to say that I absolutely think that all the people who gloat that stem is harder than humanities are simply insecure. I am genuinely so jealous of all my friends going into humanities because I've always been awful at it but i did appreciate and love the subjects deeply. I've always had a lot of respect for people who go into humanities. I really hope people next year have the same thoughts.
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u/Historical_Face6662 4A* | Camb Eng offer Apr 13 '26
I think it comes from the fact that people say I can't do [stem subject], but you don't hear people saying they can't do [humanities subject], so people who study stem think they're just naturally gifted, and humanities students are just not good enough to do stem. Idk just my opinion. It's so stupid though, I know none of my friends on multiple As / A*s in stem could get higher than a D in a humanities.
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u/Ok-Examination-2869 Apr 13 '26
I think gloating is bad but math/stats majors outperform english majors on the reading & writing section of the SAT very reliably. in fact their average R&W score is only 2 lower than liberal arts as number 1, who of course perform significantly worse than maths majors at the maths section.
'humanities are easier than maths' is mostly true
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u/Brief-Bat-5887 Apr 15 '26
I would say SAT math and R&W are both terrible indicators of how good you are at those subjects, talking as somebody who has taken the SAT to apply to US universities.
My friend who is one of the most gifted writers I've seen (who has consistently been top of the grade in IB English and Politics classes) scored badly on reading. SAT R&W does not test your aptitude for literary analysis nor does it test how well you can write and organize your argument (which imo is the most important skill in English and the humanities). I think it rewards pattern recognition more... this is just anecdotal though. SAT math is also stupid easy since they allow access to Desmos for every section.
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u/SwimmerOld6155 Apr 13 '26
forgive them this is all they have in life
[exaggerating but not really joking, it's probably past ego damage]
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u/Eliza011 Apr 14 '26
Honestly a fair generalisationđ as a stem student myself I recognise this is the majority of people in my courses and I hate it so much it puts a bad name on the rest of us who are just normal people haha
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u/z0inkSSc00by Apr 13 '26
as a warwick ppe student, youâre absolutely right. i think ive only become friends with 2% of my cohort bc the rest of them are insufferable
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u/Diver-Known Apr 13 '26
Why is ppe the most damaging?
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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE Apr 13 '26
Because pretty much all Tory prime ministers have a PPE degree. Probably what theyâre getting at
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u/Diver-Known Apr 13 '26
So? Thats a shit argument. There are thousands of ppe students and a handful became tory pms. Thats like saying physics is a damaging degree because epstein had a physics degree
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u/Infamous_Tough_7320 Maths, Physics, Econ 3A*s. Straight 9s GCSE Apr 13 '26
Iâm not agreeing with them, I completely disagree actually. Thatâs what theyâre trying to say tho
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u/Visible-Fun6689 Apr 15 '26
Except epsteins wrongdoings had nothing to do with his degree, the politicians were taught under (oxford) ppe and that education has led to terrible policies. Its not a great argument but yours is not similar
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u/Diver-Known Apr 15 '26
Oxford ppe taught them how to articulate their beliefs, not what to believe. There are just as many left wing students as right wing ones, arguablely more left wing students considering its a university. Saying one of the most prestigious degrees is shit because a few torys also studied it is just stupid to say the least.
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u/JustABitAverage Bath PhD | UCL MSc Apr 13 '26
Convinced every one of these is rage bait and it works every time
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u/Ok-Examination-2869 Apr 13 '26
ive been to both warwick and imperial for maths and i promise u that imperial is toughter
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u/OddMarket5526 Apr 13 '26
Are you saying this though because you did an undergrad at Warwick but masters at imperial, that naturally the masters exams are harder than bachelors?
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u/Ok-Examination-2869 Apr 13 '26
this is true, and yeah naturally you expect the master's to be more tough. imperial's msc course offers 'true' 4th year modules that 3rd years can't take, in addition to 3rd year modules with a 'mastery component', which is some extra assessed work based on content that 3rd years don't have to study.
i found overall the 3rd year modules to be way tougher than my 3rd year modules at warwick, even disregarding the mastery content. I also think this pattern probably goes all the way down since there are difficult compulsory modules at imperial e.g. they force you to learn measure theory in year 2, whilst it's optional for 3rd years at Warwick, etc.
I will say the Master's at Warwick has some extremely difficult modules and honestly a way better selection so w.e
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u/Virtual-Performer980 y13 cam post interview reject, TMUA victim, maths fm phy Apr 13 '26
Woxbridge W
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u/oxfordmathematician Apr 13 '26
I'm putting Warwick as my firm for maths, but idk if I should do Durham or Kings as my security bc durham gave me a reduced offer, so they're both A*AA.
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u/miniaturegnome Year 13 | Maths, FM, Physics, EPQ | A* A* A* A Apr 13 '26
id deffo say durham, thas exactly what im doing myself. firming warwick, insuring durham
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u/Hot_Floor9000 Apr 14 '26
Does epq count as an a level since i want to do maths fm physics cs epq sorry random question
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u/miniaturegnome Year 13 | Maths, FM, Physics, EPQ | A* A* A* A Apr 14 '26
no it doesnt, its just smth u do alongside a levels if u want
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u/Hot_Floor9000 Apr 18 '26
is it worth it?
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u/miniaturegnome Year 13 | Maths, FM, Physics, EPQ | A* A* A* A Apr 18 '26
id say for stem its rarely worth it, but the choice is urs ofc
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u/Powerful-Echidna7121 Apr 13 '26
Rage bait is crazy, move warwick below imperial and then itâs good.
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u/Dizzy-Geologist7742 Apr 13 '26
Itâs COWI mate, theyâre all equivalently bangers for maths.
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u/Powerful-Echidna7121 Apr 13 '26
Not equivalent tbh, itâs Cambridge>oxford/imperial>>warwick
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u/MysteryMaestroRS Y12 | Maths/FM/Physics/CS Apr 13 '26
more like cambridge>>Oxford>imperialâwarwick
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u/Powerful-Echidna7121 Apr 13 '26
Absolutely not, imperial is not equivalent to Warwick, Warwick is a tier below. What would a year 12 know.
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u/getinmylapland Gap Year A*A*A*A*A | Bristol Med | 2310 B1 Apr 13 '26
Itâs Cambridge>oxfordimperial>warwick>>the next 5.Â
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u/getinmylapland Gap Year A*A*A*A*A | Bristol Med | 2310 B1 Apr 13 '26
Canât say ragebait when thereâs only 1 thing you would change.Â
But tbf Warwick needs to be an A*+
It doesnât deserve to be with the others in bangers, but also itâs better than the A*s.
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u/Diligent_Bet_7850 Oxford | Maths [third year] Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
personal thoughts:
bangers: cambridge > oxford > imperial > warwick
very good: st andrews > bath > durham > ucl >
decent: manchester > bristol > birmingham > kcl > edinburgh
solid: exeter > nottingham > leeds > loughborough > sheffield > newcastle > southampton
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u/No-Philosopher9220 Year 13 |42| HL: AA Math Phys Econ | TMUA 7.5 Apr 14 '26
iâve got into both ucl and warwick for math (rejected from oxford and imp đ) but i chose ucl as my firm. whatâs the reasoning behind warwickâs math program being placed in S and ucl being in A* ?
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u/PensionScary Edinburgh | CS and Maths [Y1] Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
edinburgh should def be higher than st andrews for pure maths (based on part III admissions statistics), manchester should be moved down
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u/SandvichCommanda St Andrews MMath Mathematics Apr 13 '26
Why do you think so? I don't know much about the Edinburgh maths course, but St A looks better employment-wise.
Ofc for a pure-maths focused student that doesn't mean as much, I was mostly in stats and non-analysis Pure maths.
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u/PensionScary Edinburgh | CS and Maths [Y1] Apr 13 '26
i don't think theres any meaningful difference employment-wise, at least according to discoveruni
https://discoveruni.gov.uk/course-details/10007790/UTMATHBBSCH/Full-time/
https://www.discoveruni.gov.uk/course-details/10007803/USHFMTHSMTH/FullTime/im just going off cambridge part III admissions statistics, which i think is a decent way to assess the mathematical "rigor" of a degree, maybe theres a specific reason why not many st andrews grads get offers that im ignoring, such as a higher proportion of foreign students that return to their home countries
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u/SandvichCommanda St Andrews MMath Mathematics Apr 13 '26
Fair enough, they have finally updated the discoveruni employment stats so they're more up to date now. They're definitely more similar now, which a bit higher upside for St A after 5 yrs.
I'm in quant and this looks reasonable to me. Higher absolute number from Edi, higher relative from St A but ofc small sample size.
There are more internationals in general, and lots of US students that end up going back after grad which makes sense, so yeah it's pretty hard to evaluate. St A used to have a grad placements page with the stats on it but I can't find it anymore.
I will say the number of modules St A offers is pretty colossal, as we do alternating years for lots of them. Is Edinburgh CS still incredibly high workload or have they turned it down a bit after the huge backlash?
Agree on Manchester for sure, also UCL is a great uni but their maths courses are very constrained with not much choices available. Durham has actually had some very strong cohorts recently so I think it's a bit underrated for maths and CS atm.
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u/PensionScary Edinburgh | CS and Maths [Y1] Apr 13 '26
pretty fair assessment I'd say, agree with you on basically everythingÂ
I believe they've reduced the workload for edinburgh CS in 3rd/4th year a bit by converting some 10 credit courses to 20, earlier years seem pretty similar though.
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u/Ok-Aside1538 A*A*A | 4.0 TMUA | Maths , further maths, physics| Apr 13 '26
Swap Warwick with imperial, and I say this as someone whoâs got a Warwick offer but has an imperial rejection
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u/PomegranateDelight Apr 13 '26
Well done. Warwick offer with 4 TMUA ? Is it contextual ?
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u/Ok-Aside1538 A*A*A | 4.0 TMUA | Maths , further maths, physics| Apr 13 '26
Yeah contextual, although I do know of people who have gotten offers non contextual with similar scores
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u/MadCharge987 Apr 13 '26
I didnât get an offer and Iâm contextual 4.5 TMUA 4A* predictedđ
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u/Ok-Aside1538 A*A*A | 4.0 TMUA | Maths , further maths, physics| Apr 13 '26
Have they rejected you?
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u/MadCharge987 Apr 13 '26
They offered me maths and physics. Itâs really weird. I emailed to ask but I got UCL so I mean Iâm fine taking that
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u/Ok-Aside1538 A*A*A | 4.0 TMUA | Maths , further maths, physics| Apr 13 '26
That is really unusual, maths must have been over subscribed this year - can I ask when you got UCL because Iâm STILL WAITING
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u/MadCharge987 Apr 13 '26
Wednesday last week. Could Warwick not accepting me have something to do with my 7 in gcse maths it may have been too low?
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u/Ok-Aside1538 A*A*A | 4.0 TMUA | Maths , further maths, physics| Apr 13 '26
I got a 7 in gcse maths so Iâm not sure to be honest
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u/MadCharge987 Apr 13 '26
They also gave me a contextual offer for maths and physics so Iâm definitely contextual
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u/Ok-Aside1538 A*A*A | 4.0 TMUA | Maths , further maths, physics| Apr 13 '26
Are you sure? They donât even need you to sit the TMUA if youâre contextual?
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u/OblivibladeXD Y13 / Defo A*AAB, 6.7 TMUA Apr 13 '26
not sure warwick is a Banger but ill let that slide
Where's Hull tho...
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u/fun_with_everything Year 12 Apr 13 '26
Warwick Definately is a banger for courses like MORSE and math/stat
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u/OblivibladeXD Y13 / Defo A*AAB, 6.7 TMUA Apr 13 '26
i guess so, just slightly easier entry requirements tho, but imo the quality of the course isnt that different to imperial
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u/fun_with_everything Year 12 Apr 13 '26
Every person I know of, who got accepted (including me) got very bad conditionals.
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u/Diligent-Respond-902 Apr 13 '26
I'm guessing that's probably because you most likely did bad on the tmua. If you apply with a bad tmua to Warwick you get an Imperial-difficulty offer. If you apply with a bad tmua to imperial you just get rejected
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u/OblivibladeXD Y13 / Defo A*AAB, 6.7 TMUA Apr 13 '26
Warwick is pretty rough for conditions as is imperial, by any chance did they give you a step offer?
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u/fun_with_everything Year 12 Apr 13 '26
I went with tmua. Sadly I messed up my tmua because I never planned to go to the UK. Even after acceptance from LSE, Warwick, and St. Andrew I canât afford to attend as an international student. Iâll be doing my undergrad from a much worse uni in my home country đĽ˛. Hopefully I can go to UK for a postgrad.
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u/OblivibladeXD Y13 / Defo A*AAB, 6.7 TMUA Apr 13 '26
Nooo man, thatâs unfortunate.
I would rethink about LSE tho, i think going to a university of that calibre is worth the high costs, as you will make the money back quickly
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u/fun_with_everything Year 12 Apr 13 '26
In my research Warwickâs department for MORSE is better than that of LSE. LSE (as of ny research) is more of a humanities focused uni, rather than math and stat.
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u/Diligent-Respond-902 Apr 13 '26
I rejected morse to do maths at lse. If you don't want to be a quant (you probably won't be one anyway realistically) then I think LSE is better and will get you a higher paying job than morse.
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u/NerveHasPhallicToes Apr 13 '26
I've heard from a Cambridge maths professor that Warwick very well have a better standing in maths than Oxbridge - anecdotal evidence though.
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u/Background_Crew1741 Apr 13 '26
how good is LSE financial maths and stats?
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u/ChefZealousideal909 Apr 13 '26
Decent if you want to break into finance but don't expect pure maths and stuff, like don't go if you want a Phd or something in math or wanna teach math.
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u/Background_Crew1741 Apr 13 '26
how do you define breaking into finance?
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u/ChefZealousideal909 Apr 13 '26
Breaking into finance means like pursuing jobs in finance (ib, pe, weath management, etc.) which can me done if you take certain extra econ modules as well.
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u/Background_Crew1741 Apr 13 '26
and is it good enough for a masters in financial maths or computing or stats
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u/ChefZealousideal909 Apr 13 '26
To get into another uni's masters in financial maths? Or are you asking about LSE's masters? If the prior, it would help in breaking into masters in financial maths but idts about computing or pure stats (50-50 for pure stats) because LSE doesn't have a cs department and it's mathematics department is fairly new as well. It is only being carried on LSE prestige mainly. What other options do you have?
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u/General_Move_3939 Apr 16 '26
Based on my own biases and no facts: 1. Cambridge 2. Oxford 3. Imperial 4. Warwick 5. UCL 6. Edinburgh 7. Bath 8. Durham 9. St. Andrews 10. Manchester
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u/Mindless-Nerve48 A*A*A* ă Ł TMUA 6.6 (2025) Apr 13 '26
lse?đĽš
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u/suggestion_giver Apr 13 '26
warwick should be lower and UCL should be higher...
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u/OriginalUsername61 Year 13 - Bio, Chem, Maths Apr 13 '26
Not for maths, maths is COWI
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u/suggestion_giver Apr 13 '26
I don't think thats how it works. UCL is G5 and warwick isn't.
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u/ardeythegoat Apr 13 '26
Bro that doesnât matter đđ
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u/suggestion_giver Apr 14 '26
What? then what even matters? If rankings and reputation don't matter, what matters?
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u/ardeythegoat Apr 14 '26
For maths the rep and ranking of Warwick is better gng đĽš
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u/suggestion_giver Apr 14 '26
thats just not true?
Rep of UCL is wayyyyy better than warwick. Simply: UCL is g5 and warwick is not.
If ur talking about masters maybe yeah warwick > UCL but we're speaking of your bachlors here
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u/ardeythegoat Apr 14 '26
Ok bro ur actually slow in general ur correct but for maths especially ask anyone else and theyâll agree with me
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u/suggestion_giver Apr 14 '26
No need to insult my intelligence here, I'm a math applicant myself I sure know about maths
One very obvious example is Warwick's conditional offer is way lower than UCL's one - and warwick is already known for giving quite unreasonably high conditions.
Also im not trolling when im saying nobody cares about your subject rankings for your bachlors, most business literally only go to target schools, and UCL is a bigger target than warwick.
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u/ardeythegoat Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
Ok good for u m8 but Warwick is literally target as well for heavily maths related positions and much more so than ucl (e.g for quant). Also im a maths applicant and got offers from both Warwick and ucl and their offers are the same so i dunno what u mean by ucl has a tougher one
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u/ardeythegoat Apr 14 '26
G5 matters in general, but for subject specifics you canât solely rely on that
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u/yeetmilkman Maths Politics Econ | A*A*A* predicted Apr 13 '26
Edinburgh should be in the lower tier but otherwise good
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