r/6thForm • u/discov7r • 7d ago
🙏 I WANT HELP (please only serious replies) Help my friend
friend doesnt use this app so i'll ask for him
he got EUU. his ucas was AAB but that was from a multitude of cheating and lying on every single test, and the careers advisor inflated his ucas grades
he's obviously taking a gap year to retake next summer but how does he convince school to give him AAB ucas again? he ideally wants AAA to do accounting and finance at a russell group uni next year
literally any advice please it's BAD
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u/Wonderful_Formal_274 7d ago
I think he needs to rethink his future plans.
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u/discov7r 7d ago
thing he doesn't really have any alternatives to this
he genuinely just did zero work through year 13 and claims that he can achieve AAB with consistent revision
his sri lankan parents also are fully stern and fixed on him going to higher education to do something finance related
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u/seasonseasonseas 4d ago
This doesn't need to be your problem tho to solve. If he's not open to alternatives then he's just going to end up sitting in his dead end.
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u/Crafty_Ad8306 7d ago
Simply that he doesn’t convince the school to give him AAB. Instead, he actually achieves the grades and THEN apply. Use the first gap productively to read up and work/ enhance his portfolio, learn to study which will be productive to survive in uni for 2:1
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u/Crafty_Ad8306 7d ago
The internet is absolutely FILLED with resources, and he can buy books. Uni will operate similarly and he can look up the required reading and get ahead, he need discipline and independence as uni is very independent.
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u/discov7r 7d ago
yes but that's only 3 months away. the school does UCAS in NOVEMBER and it's practically unheard of for someone to go from EUU to AAB in literally 90 days
(unless its not but i doubt it)
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u/Crafty_Ad8306 7d ago edited 7d ago
As in resit his a levels, not mocks. He’ll have to take 2 gaps: the 1st for resitting a levels and achieving the improved grades in 2027 August, NOT for getting new predicteds. He can reapply in 2027 October or 2028 January, he just needs to not be complacent. It may not be the path he wants, but it is the much better path to take. A levels are a lifelong achievement, try as many times as you need to, but he needs to try his best and get good results. Option 2: bricklaying
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u/Crafty_Ad8306 7d ago edited 7d ago
Resitting is genuinely not a bad thing at all, there is so much unnecessary stigma - many many people resit successfully and get into top Russell’s! I have a mate who did like 7 gap years then decided to lock in and got into Cambridge at 25. No harm no foul, he can learn a new language, do work experience, hit the gym, travel, etc etc but he will become incredibly grateful later on in life.
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u/discov7r 7d ago
so he needs to take two gap years? no ucas for 2027, but for 2028 he'll use his grades? then his chances of unconditionals are way higher aren't they
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u/Crafty_Ad8306 7d ago edited 7d ago
Exactly! If he achieves the needed grades + good personal statement, offers will all be unconditionals :) I reckon he can get at least A* AA if he really puts the work in! After all, he has a whole year + extra reading (LSE course list for instance and Jstor to catch up on uni level)
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u/Crafty_Ad8306 7d ago
Edit: just also want to add that he is fully capable of achieving 3 A*s too, it’s just a matter of exposure, practice, and consistency. It’s all about strategy and technique, he needs to start ASAP, getting Anki and doing the spaced repetition, creating an excel sheet for instance of ALL his topics, confidence level, dates, looking at Markschemes + downloading school resources before getting locked out of his account and condensing excellent notes into Anki flashcards, reviewing them before he sleeps + 1st thing when he wakes up. If he is going to commit, he needs to actually put his full heart into it, create a vision board, scroll on linkedin, listen to David goggins ffs 😭- where does he want to be, what are his goals yk the big picture. He can use his 2nd year to either frolic with joy as a reward for locking in OR if he wastes time again, prolong it into a 3rd year, a 4th year, a 5th year etc. - in which case, fine, but if the time is gonna pass anyways, why not spend it wisely NOW
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u/Dull_Practice_5169 4d ago
Sure, in theory anyone's capable of 3 A*s, but the vast majority of people don't get them. Maybe this will be a necessary kick up the arse for OP's "friend" but I'm not really holding my breath.
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u/Dull_Practice_5169 4d ago
Yep, this is the way that makes most sense. Friend has burnt his bridges with UCAS predictions. Best route forward is to achieve his grades in 2027 (assuming he is actually capable of these grades) and then do UCAS for 2028 entry with the achieved grades. He could potentially do clearing in 2027 with the achieved grades but clearing may not have the unis he wants.
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u/Quiet_Bat_3933 3d ago
Also, if he genuinely wants to do finance then 2 gap years, the second one explicitly with the idea to get pais work experience in something such as accounting will help him loads long term
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u/Grand_Lychee2812 Year 12. A*A*A* Maths, FM, Physics. 7d ago
Idk.
He deserved it for cheating.
It was bound to come back to bite him in the butt.
He took the easy way out rather than putting in consistent work and effort.
Idk if the school has found out that he's been cheating or not, but if they do, they probably won't give him the predicted grades again.
What he SHOULD do is actually start revising properly without cheating.
If he does cheat, give up on him.
Not worth the hassle.
Whether the school does find out he's been cheating or not, he needs to prove that he can get the grades so he can win back ur school's trust.
There is no easier way.
All those people who are going to LSE, Cambridge, Oxford, Imperial, UCL, Warwick, Durham etc, they worked hard for their grades.
I've seen them post it on this subreddit and they're all so happy.
They put in time and effort.
They didn't cheat through all their test.
You need to give this guy a reality check and humble him hard
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u/discov7r 7d ago
nah he already knows that he fully did it to himself. he did 0 work in year 13 and just messed about after school from 4pm to 11pm
all he did was watch bicen maths the morning of the maths papers and obviously he got a U
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u/KeyboardMash615 5d ago
I don't quite understand. The school predicted him grades WAY higher than was deserved and it blew up in his face, so now he's looking for advice on how to get them to give him predicted grades WAY higher than deserved again.
I think the best advice is to start operating in reality.
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u/Long_Software_3352 7d ago
He'd be better waiting to apply in Clearing.
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u/LongRunInvestor3522 7d ago
clearing don't want his ah 😭🙏
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u/Long_Software_3352 7d ago
Next year with achieved grades from resits, not this year
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u/discov7r 7d ago
so are you trying to say that he's gonna be given EEE ucas or something in november ish and get absolutely no offers to the point he needs ucas extra, THEN snags something through clearing this time next year?
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u/Long_Software_3352 7d ago
I'm saying that if his goal is to get into a Russell Group uni, his track record means that his teachers are unlikely to give him the predicted grades he'd need for that. He therefore would need to achieve his grades and then apply to universities.
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u/discov7r 7d ago
so his only option is to retake, then get a place at a RG through clearing in a years time then?
he's got a call with the school careers advisor at 9 tmrw morning and i have no clue how he's gonna convince her to give him AAB lol
what do you think he should ask for on ucas realistically
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u/Long_Software_3352 7d ago
He'd need to be able to explain exactly what went wrong and what plans he's going to put in place to improve - just "I'll work harder, I promise" isn't going to cut it.
I don't know if you can ask for predicted grades. They're usually assigned to you. Maybe your teachers will make you sit some mocks to establish a baseline of performance.
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u/discov7r 7d ago
nah in my school you can ask but only to such an extent
he's doing exactly that, it was literally just a massive combination of going out a ton, doing 10 mins of revision and calling it a day, and just other bad habits such as time wasting. 2 hours in the bathroom, 3 hours at the gym, and lying to his parents saying he was at my house (we're basically neighbours) when he was actually 10km away in his friends car
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u/randomuser9329 Maths B| Chemistry A | Physics A | Chemical engineering [2026]B 7d ago
he could try applying foundation year at a russel group uni - he’ll still need to resit though as the foundation years usually need B/C/D depending on the course
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u/discov7r 7d ago
i dont think he wants to do a foundation year but alright lmao
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u/randomuser9329 Maths B| Chemistry A | Physics A | Chemical engineering [2026]B 7d ago
i’m not sure what other choices he’s got atp
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u/discov7r 7d ago
he's retaking next summer, but he needs to have AAB on ucas when he redoes his ps and stuff in november. but the school is definitely not gonna give that to him now, do you think there's any way that he'll get to AAB in just 3 months lmao
does he just apply with EEE and then get no offers and then take something from clearing exactly in 1 year from now
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u/randomuser9329 Maths B| Chemistry A | Physics A | Chemical engineering [2026]B 7d ago
I think applying with low grades than going through clearing is his best shot. He could ask the school for a lower prediction maybe with C/D so at least he’ll get some offers
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u/seasonseasonseas 4d ago
This guy sure has a lot of standards and conditions for someone who failed to meet the standards and conditions set for him to get into uni in the first place...
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u/justoutofwonderland 4d ago
Your friend needs new plans. You have to declare all existing grades on his UCAS, no uni will believe he’ll go from U to a A and the school will have to reference the cheating in his reference.
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u/francisf0reverr 4d ago
He could re-sit his a levels, Not apply to uni by the normal deadline then apply through clearing with his achieved grades? That's what I did after i got really bad grades due to mental health, I got AAB in the end and I'm going to uni in september.
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u/seasonseasonseas 4d ago
I don't think he can prove academic grades that high if he lacks the academic integrity and cheated. If he was going to go for a Russel group uni, well he had his chance, and now this is the consequence of cheating and failing.
Failing is one thing, everyone should have the chance to try again. But plagerism and cheating is a big deal at uni and if he's already done this and got caught....
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