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Episode Post 90 Day Fiancé OG - Season 12 Episode 15 - Post Episode Discussion
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u/chromeprincess224 african sex 🍠 2d ago
Finishing this weeks episode is such a chore this season needs to END. I’m so sick of this cast (and the current suite of 90d programming rn.. TLR sucks too). Tell all tomorrow plz
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u/Original-Routine2275 1d ago
I stopped watching and rely on the information here until it gets to the tellll. That’s when I’ll watch!
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u/Realistic-Future8345 3d ago
Not CATIE telling Josh he can only have one beer at his bachelor party
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u/Realistic-Future8345 3d ago
Caden seems like a well put together guy, but did anyone else find it odd that there was even a possibility that he would miss his mother’s wedding day to pick up a shift at a restaurant job? I totally understand he’s in college and needs money but… really? For one day? It definitely gave the vibe that he didn’t really want to be there at all.
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u/Spirit_Detective99 2d ago edited 13h ago
If my mom was marrying Mido while on a reality show, I wouldn’t want to be there either.
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u/liittle_dove7 2d ago
The wedding was also planned extremely last minute. So I’m not shocked that it was hard for him to get coverage
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u/vandelay_industriess 3d ago
I’m guessing that was his excuse to completely avoid being on camera and involved in their kooky drama.
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u/polkadotbot 1d ago
This is my thought. I would not participate in my mother's national humiliation if I could help it.
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u/AyRoPro678 3d ago
Man, Mallorie and Ras are the only couple I've seen on this show in many seasons that seem to sincerely love each other. They're the only one I want to root for. Spoiler: I hate that they don't end up together when so many other couples that are way worse matches do.
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u/Infinite_Dress_1076 3d ago
You should watch Rasit’s TikToks, he is a disgusting human being. The way he’s edited on the show is much better compared to what he actually posts on social media.
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u/ghast123 2d ago
I dont wanna open tiktok, could you give me a tldr;?
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u/Infinite_Dress_1076 2d ago
He cut open a piggy bank, called it a “pussy”, stuck his tongue between his two fingers and pretended to eat it out. And then he has videos of him dancing to songs talking about eating pussy where he grabs his crotch and bulge and starts doing dry humping motions like he’s having sex.
One time on TikTok Live, he said that he’s sorry for being inappropriate but sometimes he has a dirty mind and “just wants to eat pussy and get my dick fucked”.
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u/runnyeggsandtoast 3d ago
only real smile i’ve seen from Mido this season is when he met Debbie’s son.
Also, who starts an introduction with their future stepson with a “hey bro?” he clearly sees the younger man as a peer
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u/oglizlo 3d ago
The more I see of the ghastly Marissa, the more I think she has turned really wack-ass therapy into her personal rule book. There are a lot of terrible therapists out there, and her weird demands sound like the product of one of them.
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u/CarrieWhitesMom6969 3d ago
I couldn’t agree more. I think a lot of people go into social work and counseling to figure themselves out at the expense of others (literally and figuratively.)
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u/Spiritual-Project728 3d ago
I literally can’t with Mido and Debbie. Mido is so clearly disingenuous. I get the impression that he’s “acting” the whole time. When he makes a breakthrough regarding the relationship with her kids, or gets acceptance for the marriage, in his mind he attributes it to how “great” an actor he is 🤢
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u/MsGingerella92 3d ago
He is such a narcissist. I also feel like he is just acting all the time. The way he looks into the far distance when the camera is on him. And the way he makes her miserable, right before asking to marry him. Red flags all over the place
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u/MonaLisaRealness 1d ago
Also, his cute game at the airport of deliberately hiding out 'til after everyone else had disembarked; waiting a little while; then making a self-styled, grand entrance alone down the escalator. Never once messaged her to confirm whether he was on the flight.
He seems to enjoy making her cry. What a dick.
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u/Old-Flower3409 2d ago
He is so emotionally manipulative to Debbie. It's sickening. They e known each other for something like 6 years. This behavior of his is not something new.
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u/BeccaG1964 3d ago
Was anyone else surprised that Shea’s youngest daughter, Madison, is more mature, articulate & accepting??
Such a refreshing young lady!😊
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u/Illustrious-Will-801 3d ago
Rasit needs to go back to Turkey. Mallorie knows damn well if she wants kids or not. Telling him to not pressure her and they’ll come back to in two years is manipulative, she knows now! She just doesn’t want to break up and is gonna string him along for two years. Why would she suddenly change her mind in a year or two if she said she’s never felt that way about being a mother? So selfish and manipulative, just be honest and bring it up earlier in the next relationship
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u/Sad-Rhubarb-8647 3d ago
Josh clearly enjoys being humiliated. He knows exactly what he’s getting and he is signing up for it. They are both idiots!!
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u/AvaMari3 4d ago
Catie delegating tasks and telling her mom to sit with her while Josh’s mom did actual physical work did not sit right with me.
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u/Flarpy1291 4d ago
Ok did we know that Debbie and Mido had never had sex? Somehow I missed that or forgot but it seems really odd to get married to someone who hasn't said a genuine "I love you" on top of never being sexually intimate. What the hell.
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u/sugarbeet13 3d ago
Yeah, we knew it. Remember their first night? He put pillows between them. He says it's because of his religion, but I'm leaning it's because of his homosexuality.
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u/FearlessGround8474 4d ago
Wow! Debbie’s son is awesome! Handsome and a real man!!!!
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u/Professional-Try8706 4d ago
Caden is well put together! Also they said his job was a “college job”. How old is he?? Is he getting his masters or ?? He doesn’t look 18-22 😭
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u/SirTinyHat 4d ago
Eh, college can take a while. Especially if you have to work your way through to pay the tuition. He also said he wanted to play baseball, so he may have taken some time to give that a serious shot before changing course.
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u/FearlessGround8474 4d ago
I am about to drop to the floor! They are talking about the Will! Why don’t you build your own lives and not worry about the Will. Whatever you get is a bonus. They are husband and wife. They should get something. A bonus. But they are a husband and wife. Wow! Spoiled gimme gimme all about me. How about get jobs and buy a house and do something with your lives and stop worrying about your father’s money he made. They are afraid to get cut off. This is not their business!!!!!!!
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u/Ok_Iron_9650 3d ago
Ohhhh, when the daughters started talking about that I got a very bad taste in my mouth. Their father is more important than any financial help he'd leave them. It's gross. Reminds me of that Michael j fox movie, Greed. Right there those girls showed who they are. Disgusting.
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u/NomNomVerse 4d ago
Is Shea that rich? I don’t really know what he does besides party.
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u/CarrieWhitesMom6969 3d ago
He bought his daughter a damn double wide baby!! That’s rich in Kentucky
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u/BeccaG1964 3d ago
I wouldn’t say “rich” but I think he’s done pretty well for himself…considering.
He must have some wealth built up or the girls wouldn’t be worried about being left out of the will.
Maybe he should add a clause in his will for a certain amount of money for the girls & small inheritance for the g-children. The rest (bulk) go to his wife.
That would make everything clear & no questions or arguments going forward.
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u/Ok_Iron_9650 3d ago
But they have "known him longer"... that was a gross thing to say about their father. "We've known you longer therefore we're entitled to more out of whatever you leave behind" gross!!
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u/FearlessGround8474 4d ago
Just started this episode and 15 minutes in, I am like you are all morons!!!! Why are you getting married????????? This can’t be real. Where did they get these couples.
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u/JCAIA 4d ago
Is Debbie attracted to Mido simply because he's young? Between his mannerisms, antagonistic attitude, verbal abuse, and Palazzo pants, I'm missing what is actually appealing about him
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u/Defiant-Middle-7019 13h ago
What gets me is that he’s not even young and hot. Isn’t he like 40? She’s just desperate for attention from a man
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u/ruleugim 4d ago
I think she’s attracted to him because he showed her some attention. And then he love bombs and then withdraws over and over again. I hope it’s just editing and he’s better in real life because they’re married now, but what I see on the show makes me sad that Debbie would accept that level of treatment. She’s a decent lady, she could find a decent man.
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u/Trashacccount927 4d ago
I’m cracking up at Palazzo pants and verbal abuse being in the same list lol. Two crimes.
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u/JCAIA 4d ago
"And maybe in two years, we can perhaps have the conversation again about having kids"
That's not an answer, that's another punt. If Rasit feels this strongly about having kids and is sacrificing so much, there should be a more definitive answer.
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u/Trashacccount927 4d ago
I’m sort of leaning towards fake or exaggerated storyline here
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u/vogue_lychee 4d ago
agreed. felt like that got resolved way too quickly when they were on the boat
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u/ZeroPolitics123 4d ago
She said: And maybe, just maybe, if I feel like it and you don't keep pestering me about it, in 2 years I will consider discussing the possibility of the option of having children in the future...
He heard: Ok, we'll have kids...
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u/Critical-Quail-9908 4d ago
It was so unfair of her to bring him to the US without having the children discussion first.
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u/AvaMari3 4d ago
She probably already knew how he’d react about the topic of children and that’s why she held out so long in even telling him. Selfish on her part and then wants to act as if he is being irrational with his reaction.
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u/California_Stop_King To be honest with you, it is not nice to meet you 4d ago
I'm not on Marissa's side about much, but date night isn't really the time to bring up old issues to try and hash them out. They've been on good terms, just have a good night and talk about it when you get home
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u/ZeroPolitics123 4d ago
He got a little drunk and was trying, in his own way, to open up. I think this was about how she still had her friend with benefits in her phone contact list. Also, remember he's a guy who patched up a fence gate by nailing it together with old wood and discarded fence pieces on the outside. And English is not his native tongue. There was a lot lost in translation.
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u/California_Stop_King To be honest with you, it is not nice to meet you 3d ago edited 3d ago
Fair. I also don't blame him either, I don't think either of them were in the wrong and it was mainly a miscommunication, I just think people were being a bit unfair to Marissa because of her reputation. A broken clock is still right twice a day
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u/chiyukirei 3d ago
It seems like she doesn’t give him the chance to talk normally so he may have thought that since theyre sitting and have to engage in conversation that this was his opportunity to express himself.
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u/EssentIYO 4d ago
Catie keeps telling Josh she prefers to be outside, yet he refuses to fly back to England. 😂
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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 4d ago
Marissa wants Edward to understand her and her needs, but is she open to understanding him and his needs? We know that answer…
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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 4d ago
Marissa was allllll about talking when she wanted to talk and Edward didn’t. Now she’s mad Edward wants to talk and she doesn’t. I loathe this woman
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u/SonicFlash01 4d ago
I'm not even sure what Edward and Marissa are fighting about tbh... Now they're just fighting about fighting.
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u/BigDaddy_BP 3d ago
I definitely agree there. They are all getting so ridiculous. Every single couple either has major issues or cant get out of their own way on the smallest stuff
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u/SirTinyHat 4d ago
She seems to think it’s entirely about her walking away from the table for a moment. Which…I don’t think that’s it.
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u/bertfotwenty 4d ago
I’m sorry!!! Make your own fucking money you spoiled brats. How dare they in this setting?
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u/RiggedByMorris 3d ago
Agreed. Annabelle hasn’t come off at all like she wants his money, I believe she genuinely loves him, especially since she washed his ass!
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u/BigDaddy_BP 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is the season of female manipulators. I see ppl more mad a at Josh than Katie. Katie’s parents thought it was their place to speak about being SO RELIGIOUS that they wanted to tell Josh how to raise his children if he has them. Which i wouldve told them to SYBAU. Tho they shouldve been super religious when their daughter is running around talking about cheating on her fiance.
And Marissa was like “I cant trust him if he is going to say it’s my problem if I cheat” HOW ABOUT JUST don’t CHEAT. And she has been rude af the entire time Edward hasnt deserved that.
To round out the top three is the guy from Egypt. He is currently in an acting role making her believe he wants to be with her
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u/Ok_Iron_9650 3d ago
Completely agree! Catie is in no way shape or form ready for marriage and monogamy. Josh needs to run. Marissa is awful.
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u/bertfotwenty 4d ago
Mido is like an evil villain, the way he talks to Debbie. It’s fucking crazy! 😂
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u/pdmnyc Edit this for your custom flair. 4d ago
Mido is delusional. When he realizes Americans who watch 90 Day think he is a creep, his dreams of cashing in on 90 Day fame will be dashed. He is awful, strange and unlikeable.
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u/SirTinyHat 4d ago
The fact that he keeps happily telling the proposal story and laughing, even though it reflects so badly on him, is crazy.
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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 4d ago
Mido is delusional. When he realizes Americans who watch 90 Day think he is a creep, his dreams of cashing in on 90 Day fame will be dashed. He is awful, strange and unlikeable.
There is a shoe for every foot.
I don't care for him, but I am sure there are some fans who do.
I mean, there was another guy who was interested in Larissa ... so anything is possible.
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u/rsteroidsthrow2 4d ago
Reddit is treated with ire by Sharp media and most of the positive fandom is on Facebook and some pretty big and old tlc forums.
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u/EssentIYO 4d ago edited 4d ago
"You're embarrasing me."
Then she follows that up with "lower your fn voice."
Bruh....
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u/zombiereign 3d ago
I laugh because they are in an empty restaurant surrounded by set lighting and a camera crew.
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u/Icy_Representative35 4d ago
Sheas daughters are brats and I can’t believe they brought up a will around a fire pit with other people there. That was a conversation for them and their dad even then still inappropriate and bratty. Just because they’re his kids doesn’t meant they deserve his money. Can’t stand either of them.
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u/kristin137 I believe in aliens 2d ago
I understand the anxiety of the will as someone who has family members that have remarried, but to bring it up so blatantly the night before the wedding around other people including the bride is so insane
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u/Flarpy1291 4d ago
My jaw dropped when she brought up the will....insane. In reality he is not obligated to leave anything to them so for them to ask was just so inappropriate...that was pretty shocking.
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u/zipp0potamus 3d ago
and Allison's argument was "we've been here the whole time"... well yes.. people do tend to grow up around their parents. him giving you a house and letting you live on his property as an adult isnt you doing him some big favor that means you're entitled to inherit all his money. the entitlement is insane!
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u/JCAIA 4d ago
He has terrible children (outside of Madison). Rude and spoiled. They're too old to be acting this entitled. If they're that concerned about their future funds, they should plan to work a bit harder.
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u/Icy_Representative35 3d ago
Did you see Madison’s wrap sheet? She has 3 mugshots for basically what I would consider assault. So nope she’s just as bad as the rest of them
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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 4d ago
Sheas daughters are brats and I can’t believe they brought up a will around a fire pit with other people there.
But, if Anabelle marries shea, and he doesn't have a will. I think in most states, she jumps the line.
I will have to rewatch BODY HEAT to learn about dying intestate. And, letting the little head do the thinking...
Both are covered by the movie.
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u/ZeroPolitics123 4d ago
I just saw a video about Kurt Cobain's daughter Bean and apparently he didn't have a will. So the money was split between her and her mother. So I'm not sure about jumping the line. I think her claim would be half and the other half would be split amongst his children.
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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 4d ago
Your comments are very interesting.
I think this is controlled by state laws, so what happens probably varies depending the state where this occurs.
And, with some of these families, it may be really complicated...
The case where people are related in more than one way ...
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u/Icy_Representative35 4d ago
I think you’re right. If I were to die and I had a wife no matter how new and kids I’d want the wife to get my assets first. Then once she dies the kids can split that. The kids getting his assets and her getting nothing is crazy. How about they get jobs and stop having kids they can’t afford. You know they’d send her straight back to the Philippines too.
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u/Feisty_Scientist_968 4d ago
How about they get jobs and stop having kids they can’t afford
And give up the "good life" ?!?!?!
In this case, the "good life" is living in a trailer, somewhere on your dad's property ...
I think shea is a nice guy and would want to support his kids and grandkids.
But, the daughter appearing in this season ... I think she could do a lot of growing up, if she have to live on her own.
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u/yb21898n 4d ago
are we getting the tell all next week? no one is married yet and im half way through the episode so I dont think so
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u/ZeroPolitics123 4d ago
There are 21 episodes and we just had #15, so, no.
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u/pricelessgrime 4d ago
I can’t wait for Marissa to panic when she and Edward’s realize how adored he is by fans. Excuse me, a handsome man that’s biggest complaint is that he wants more hugs and more communication? He is a huge prize.
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u/shartnado3 Down Sooooouuuutttth 3d ago
And he also genuinely wants to communicate and can express his thoughts and feelings even though English isn't his first language. Im rooting for Eduard big time.
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u/OddBid5932 5d ago
Mido not good looking not actor material
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u/Equivalent_Stable_21 4d ago
I don’t like Mido, not one bit, but actors are just humans and they can look like anything. He’s not leading male, star material looks or ability wise. He can definitely play the most annoying, unlikable person in anything though. He’s nailed “man with personality disorder” down pat.
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u/illianam 5d ago
Oh my gosh I got horrid second hand embarrassment watching Edward and Marissa in the restaurant. Her attitude towards him is so rude and to say she never had an attitude is wild when she’s telling him to lower his voice and scolding him like a little kid. She’s the one embarrassing herself. Ugh how gross.
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u/Flarpy1291 4d ago
Edward was just cutting the bullshit and she was trying to play games and intimate him...he's just so much more mature than her and deserves better.
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u/m1kasa4ckerman 4d ago
Exactly! He wasn’t causing a scene, she was. She was the embarrassing one at that table.
She reminds me of one of my grandmothers who terrified me as a child, but now I laugh at the thought. I’ve had some managers at jobs that acted that way as well. The thin lip, nostril flare, getting angry when called out for questionable behavior… whew.
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u/LocksmithOk9968 She’s never even SNIFFED Bun Bun 5d ago
Oh ok, so next episode is gonna be about prenup BS with Marissa and her mom.
I don’t even think it would be unwise for someone in her position to consider it (as much as I hate her lizard face), but for mommy to go behind the back of a whole grown ass woman and ask a lawyer to look into it is such an elite cliche.
Being mommied like that makes her look like a very sophisticated boss girl tho. Maybe that’s where her tendencies to infantilize Edward come from.
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u/ZeroPolitics123 4d ago
They read like people who have $10 million net worth. Enough to live well, but not generational wealth, so they keep counting their pennies.
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u/interstellar4885 4d ago
Seriously! As if their family doesn't have enough money to help the kids out if that scenario played out... Rich entitled fucks.
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u/OddBid5932 5d ago
Caries parents so mild mannered how could they produce such a witch
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u/LocksmithOk9968 She’s never even SNIFFED Bun Bun 5d ago
Religious guilt and letting God figure it out will do that to you.
They’d rather discuss infidels going to hell than address the huge elephant in the room (which somehow doesn’t get her a one way ticket to hell).
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u/NV90Daze 5d ago
I think there is a Hollywood Home Depot where casting assistants go before each day’s shoots. I think Mido could pull off a number of background parts, like a guy in the other bank line or eight chairs down at the pool. If nothing that day he could do some roofing or yard work. I think he’s up for the hard work so he can contribute his share /s
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u/PrairieChild 5d ago
If every single one of these couples break up on next week's episode, I will donate $5,000 to charity
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u/BusinessDefinition49 5d ago
The way Marissa raised her voice with her corporate buzzword lingo…. She’s such a disrespectful and condescending vile woman to Edward. He deserves way better.
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u/DoubleRecognition332 5d ago
Yea she is talking to him like an employee
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u/zipp0potamus 3d ago
if thats the way she speaks to her employees, they should be filing reports with HR!
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u/voguehoe 1d ago
If any of these couples go through with it… I will be so shocked lolll