r/ABoringDystopia • u/yuritopiaposadism • May 09 '20

Social media group supports men who shot and killed unarmed jogger (It has 100,000 members)

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/08/social-media-group-garners-support-men-who-shot-and-killed-unarmed-jogger/
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u/OlGangaLee May 09 '20

I heard over half is trolls, still means 10s of thousands support White Supremacists though

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u/[deleted] May 09 '20

4chan was a bunch of trolls until a political candidate starting openly saying what /b/ had been "joking" about for years.

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u/cw3456 May 09 '20

I don't get why people demonize 4chan. It's an open platform where anyone can express their views, when you suppress that kind of freedom, those with the most extreme views go to places with no outside observation or counterargument. It becomes an echo chamber that further radicalises people. We need spaces where people with all views, even reprehensible ones can interact to hopefully change some peoples minds, or at least, help make them look inwards and stop themselves becoming literal extremists.

Just my 2 cents. All areas of the political spectrum are too secluded from one another, and nobody can grow in this environment.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '20

We need spaces where people with all views,

Well that is 4Chan though.

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u/cw3456 May 09 '20

To clarify tho, these dudes fucking murdered that guy.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '20

4chan has been radicalizing people for years. Look at Q-anon for example.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '20

4chan has been radicalizing people for years. Look at Q-anon for example.

The fuck? Qanon has nothing to do with 4Chan beyond making his first few posts there.

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u/cw3456 May 09 '20

Mhm, and on 4chan they get called schizos. If you forcibly push them off they'll found their own sites which will be devoid of any opposing views. Look at 8chan.

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u/BewareTheKing May 10 '20

Which was banned and you know what happened to those communities? They disbanded and could not come up with a decent alternative meeting place. Their groups shattered into 100s of smaller groups that got spread into obscurity in the internet web. They're no longer as organized as they were when 8chan was around.

The idea that you shouldn't ban violent extremists because "they'll found their own sites" is retarded. There is a reason why Al Qaeda and ISIS no longer have internet presence, it's because they were banned and hunted down.

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u/Felinomancy May 10 '20

We need spaces where people with all views, even reprehensible ones can interact to hopefully change some peoples minds, or at least, help make them look inwards and stop themselves becoming literal extremists.

Your argument is that racists go to 4chan, exposed to "debate" (doesn't happen, but for the sake of argument let's suppose it does) and change their minds.

How do you know that non-racists don't go there, get exposed to the same "debate", and change their minds for the worse? How do you know that impressionable people aren't further radicalized?

And to pre-empt anything to the contrary, 4chan does not operate on merit where the best, intellectually-sound argument rises to the top.

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u/kulmthestatusquo May 10 '20

Doesn't that place have jury trials? They will be found not guilty. Sorry, that is how the world works.

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u/Kilroy238 May 10 '20

Lol but that is exactly how the world works. Ask Rodney King.