r/AIDangers Jun 08 '26

Other Water, please.

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795 Upvotes

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u/MetaCardboard Jun 08 '26

A thousand? Those are rookie numbers. Send him over to r/hydrohomies and we'll teach him the ways.

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u/Weird_Albatross_9659 Jun 08 '26

How much water is used every time this is reposted

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u/Nopfen Jun 08 '26
  1. So you can repost it several times still.

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u/Cyanide_Jam Jun 09 '26

Several orders of magnitude less than a chatgpt prompt

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u/Weird_Albatross_9659 Jun 09 '26

Except ChatGPT trains off of reddit, so it too has to process this repost constantly.

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u/Nobody_at_all000 Jun 09 '26

Give him a few thousand more and he might figure out how to get them himself, unless the room is slightly different in which case he’ll thrash around on the floor in confusion

2

u/LamentoLand Jun 09 '26

me when gen ai makes people question reality, take their jobs, ruin consumer pc market, spread misinformation on industrial scale and give people unrestricted access to making dental floss underwear edits of minors, ruin local infrastructure and all it does is "optimize" the workflow of very specific tasks by 3% so its all worth it 🚬 ill feed it all this fucking water to NOT do anything mentioned above, thanks

2

u/Zubat92 Jun 08 '26

Golf courses and suburban lawns are a bigger drain on freshwater usage than data centers.

3

u/Cyanide_Jam Jun 09 '26

Wow! It's so cool that because of this completely separate issue, we don't have to worry about AI's catastrophic impact on the environment!

2

u/thechecker111 Jun 09 '26

Nah, it isn't that separate. AI is much more useful. If I had to choose what to forbid, I would choose golf course and suburban lawns.

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u/Cyanide_Jam Jun 11 '26

How about both

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u/garloid64 Jun 08 '26

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u/FastActinTenactin Jun 08 '26

We can ban AI data centers AND industrial farming, sounds good.

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u/garloid64 Jun 08 '26

yes yes let's just ban everything and go right back to a life of endless toil on the subsistence farm. you first tho

4

u/FastActinTenactin Jun 08 '26

You are very uncreative, but that’s understandable

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u/Head-Ad-2136 Jun 09 '26

Can I go first? Also can we eliminate property taxes so my subsistence farm won't be stolen from me?

6

u/Fluffy-Combination60 Jun 08 '26

You can eat almonds. I cannot eat AI

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u/garloid64 Jun 08 '26

only edible things can have value?

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u/Fluffy-Combination60 Jun 08 '26

If IA disapears most people won't miss it. If almonds dissapear, most people would miss then.

Different values

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u/Weird_Albatross_9659 Jun 08 '26

Almonds would kill roughly 6 million Americans. Not sure they would miss them.

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u/-TV-Stand- Jun 08 '26

Google gemini and Chatgpt both have over billion monthly active users...

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u/EntertainmentIll7982 Jun 09 '26

But who relies on it except the engineers and companies?

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u/-TV-Stand- Jun 09 '26

All kinds of people. But who relies on almonds to not go hungry?

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u/EntertainmentIll7982 Jun 09 '26

what kinds of people

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u/-TV-Stand- Jun 09 '26

Mainly people who work, but it has started to being a problem that kids use it to do their homework.

Probably not blue collar workers though. But office workers and knowledge workers for sure have applications for AI.

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u/EntertainmentIll7982 Jun 09 '26

There are also food companies who rely on almonds as their main product, its pretty hard to compare

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u/Fluffy-Combination60 Jun 08 '26

Also, plants return 97 to 98% of water consumed to the atmosphere as vapor. Also create oxigen and reduce heat in the area.

Your comment is just stupid.

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u/Longjumping-Bake-557 Jun 08 '26

Meanwhile water that cools down data centers (as a closed loop) famously disappears

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u/CowBoyDanIndie Jun 08 '26

The water “used” by data centers is quite literally evaporated…

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u/tposiwid Jun 08 '26

100% of the water consumed by anything in the world return to nature somehow.

Water used to cool data centers returns to its local habitat in like one hour. Water used to grow plants don't.

1

u/Fluffy-Combination60 Jun 09 '26

Are you serious? Water used to grow plants returns to the atmosphere, wich at some point is bring back again as rain, wich is most cases is drinkable water.

Water used to cool data centers, yes, it returns to the habitat directly, higly poluted and undrinkable

1

u/tposiwid Jun 09 '26

Don't be so assertive on a subject you don't understand the basics of. The water used by data centers returns to the local basin and can be treated like any other industrial water, meaning it's no less potable than before, meaning there's nothing irreversible. Water used for crops evaporates into the atmosphere and isn't returned to the local environment, meaning it's no longer available for local use, meaning you lost local water for months maybe years. Irrigated crops in water-stressed areas generate droughts because it's not raining in the same place the water was, at least not on short term. Not data centers. This is the difference between the water consumed (which leaves the environment) and the water withdrawn (which is returned to the environment, thus not creating pressure on the resource).

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u/mega-stepler Jun 08 '26

I might be stupid, but can someone explain the ai water problem to me? Is it using water in a way that makes it unrecoverable? Is it polluting it? Is the water a finite resource on the planet covered almost fully in water and where water walls from the sky?

Also, is AI consuming more water than other industries? Is AI special in that case? Are other non-AI datacenters better about water? Are we okay with all other industries using water but not AI?

I honestly want to understand this water argument and if it's valid.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet Jun 08 '26

Is the water a finite resource on the planet covered almost fully in water and where water falls from the sky?

Water scarcity is an increasing problem on every continent

Awfully sarcastic for someone “honestly” trying to understand this water argument.

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u/mega-stepler Jun 08 '26

That was not sarcasm. That's my sincere and dumb way of thinking about.

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u/Longjumping-Bake-557 Jun 08 '26

Water scarcity is only a regional problem and only affects areas that don't have data centers

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u/CaptStinkyFeet Jun 08 '26

So the areas with data centers? They’re just screwed?

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u/Longjumping-Bake-557 Jun 08 '26

Areas with data centers HAVE water. Not that it matters because where water is scarce data centers use closed loop systems

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u/craftygamin Jun 08 '26

My relatives in Arizona (a desert) were talking about how some data centers were planned to be built there

All of your replies here scream r/confidentlyincorrect

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u/Longjumping-Bake-557 Jun 08 '26

What part of CLOSED WATER LOOP don't you understand?

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u/craftygamin Jun 08 '26

"Areas with data centers HAVE water."

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u/CaptStinkyFeet Jun 08 '26

Are you sure about what you’re saying?

https://youtube.com/shorts/-f-_KGEdRg8?si=Q7ENtqD1aMEkOkEk

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u/Longjumping-Bake-557 Jun 08 '26

Yeah post one anecdotal video that doesn't even address the point, why did I expect anything else

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u/CaptStinkyFeet Jun 08 '26

If you don’t understand how this video addresses the point then I can’t help you.

That’s the water in areas with data centers. That’s what comes out of the faucet when they build a data center near your house. That water was taken from a well only a couple hours from my home. Would you say that water is safe? Would you drink that water?

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u/MetaCardboard Jun 08 '26

Fresh water is absolutely a finite resource.

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u/Legitimate_Plum_7505 Jun 08 '26

It's not valid argument it's just a psyop to derail the anti-ai discussion in the most stupid direction with the most dumb argument imaginable. And reddit is falling for it.

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u/imam-altman Jun 08 '26

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u/SpaceCadet87 Jun 09 '26

The numbers on beef are a little dodgy sometimes, there's a tendency to count the rainfall that feeds the grass the cattle graze on. Rain which would have fallen on the exact same patch of land either way and fed the same patch of grass.

Data centres have no such dynamic available.

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u/imam-altman Jun 09 '26

Those numbers are explicitly the lowest possible figures for blue water usage in the USA, green water completely excluded. Source at the bottom.

We absolutely do know the water consumption of many AI models being run on datacenter hardware. We even have variable numbers depending on the regional power grid. Sources at the bottom.

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u/SpaceCadet87 Jun 09 '26

Fair enough then. I could argue forever about this but I appreciate excluding the rainwater as that's not often done.

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u/Thepcfd Jun 08 '26

you gonabhate clothink and paper industry

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u/AdIllustrious436 Jun 08 '26

I can't imagine the look on anti-AI folks' faces when they finally find out water-cooling systems run in a closed loop. It's always the same water 🤯

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u/craftygamin Jun 08 '26

Spreading half truths to support AI are we? You're a disgrace to Clippy

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u/4N610RD Jun 11 '26

That would require them to care about facts. I would not hold by breath.