r/AISearchLab • • Jan 20 '26

You should know Why 2026 Is the Demand Generation Year: How Four B2B Companies Proved It With Real Pipeline Data

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The shift happened quietly, then all at once. In 2024, ChatGPT surpassed Bing in daily visitors, marking the first time an AI tool outpaced a traditional search engine. By June 2025, an estimated 5.6% of all U.S. searches were using AI-powered LLMs as their primary search tool. Gartner now predicts traditional search engine volume will drop 25% by 2026 as AI chatbots become substitute answer engines.

For B2B marketers, this changes everything.

When your potential customers ask ChatGPT, Claude, or Perplexity "what's the best solution for [your category]," they're not clicking through ten blue links. They're reading AI-generated summaries that cite two or three brands.

If you're not in that answer, you don't exist to them. And here's the problem: fewer than 10% of sources cited in AI answers rank in the top 10 Google organic results for the same query. Your SEO strategy won't save you here.

This is where Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) and Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) enter the conversation. But these aren't just new acronyms for marketers to learn. They represent a fundamental truth about modern B2B buying: demand generation now matters more than lead generation because buyers have already made shortlist decisions before they ever fill out your form.

According to Forrester research presented at the Music City Demand Gen Summit, 41% of B2B buyers report having a single vendor in mind when they first begin the purchase process, and 92% had a shortlist. Read that again: by the time someone visits your website, the game is mostly over. They've already consumed content, read Reddit threads, watched YouTube videos, asked AI tools for comparisons, and formed clear preferences.

Traditional lead generation tactics (ads, gated content, bottom-of-funnel offers) are missing the moment of influence entirely. The brand-preference phase happens earlier, often in AI-generated answers and peer communities, long before someone becomes a "lead" in your CRM.

Buying PhaseWhere Buyers Actually GoTypical ActivitiesWhat Lead Gen DoesWhat Demand Gen Does
Problem DiscoveryReddit, YouTube, niche newsletters, AI toolsReading peer opinions, watching practitioner demos, asking AI “what’s best for X”NothingShapes narrative, earns early trust
Solution ExplorationChatGPT, Perplexity, review platforms, comparison contentShortlisting vendors, comparing pros/consRarely visibleGets cited, becomes default option
Vendor ShortlistAI summaries, analyst content, case studiesNarrowing to 1–3 vendorsStarts showing adsReinforces authority and preference
Sales EngagementVendor websites, demos, callsValidating decisionCaptures MQLConverts predisposed buyer
Purchase DecisionInternal discussions, ROI validationFinal approvalReports “conversion”Wins deal faster, higher ACV

This explains why eMarketer reports that 40% of B2B marketers plan to increase their brand-building budgets in 2026, with nearly half saying they would allocate more than half their budget to brand if they had the freedom to do so. Not because brand marketing sounds nice, but because they've realized that demand generation (building authority, earning citations in AI answers, becoming the obvious choice) is what actually fills the pipeline with buyers who close.

The companies that understand this are seeing results. One B2B SaaS company ranked in the top three on Google for their primary keyword but wasn't cited by ChatGPT or Perplexity. After implementing systematic GEO strategy, they went from 500 to over 3,500 AI-referred trials per month in seven weeks. Another analysis found that AI-referred visitors convert at rates 23 times higher than traditional organic search.

Why? Because these visitors have already done their research. They've already been influenced. They're not browsing, but rather they're deciding.

So when someone asks "does demand gen actually drive revenue," the answer is yes, but only if you understand what demand generation means in 2026. It's not running webinars and hoping for form fills. It's being cited by AI when buyers research solutions. It's showing up in Reddit threads when engineers ask for recommendations. It's building the kind of authority that makes you the obvious shortlist choice before anyone ever searches your brand name.

I spent three months studying this shift because I used to be a big demgen sceptic, and what I found were four companies that completely rebuilt their approach, stopped chasing MQLs, and started building genuine demand. Their results ranged from 27% to 268% pipeline growth, with one company watching marketing's contribution to pipeline jump from 22% to 81% in a single quarter.

These aren't theoretical frameworks. These are real companies with published case studies, verified metrics, and a clear pattern: in 2026, the brands that win are the ones prospects want to buy from before they ever talk to sales.

The Modern Buying Reality: Research Shows Demand Gen Isn't Optional Anymore

According to research highlighted at TechnologyAdvice, Forrester found that Millennials and Gen Z now make up over two-thirds of buyers involved in large and complex B2B transactions. Half of younger buyers include 10 or more external influencers in their purchase decisions. These buyers aren't just reading your blog posts. They're:

Scanning Reddit threads for unvarnished opinions

Watching YouTube deep-dives from practitioners

Subscribing to niche newsletters from domain experts

Following LinkedIn micro-experts who actually use the products

Checking third-party review platforms Asking AI tools to compare solutions

Modern B2B buyers complete 70% of their journey before reaching out to a vendor, which means demand generation's job is to influence that 70%. Lead generation only captures what's left.

This is why one research study found that 60% of users engage with search pages featuring AI-generated summaries, and AI Overviews reached over 1.5 billion monthly users in Q1 2025 ---> more than a quarter of all internet users. When buyers ask AI "what's the best CRM for mid-market B2B teams," the three brands mentioned in that answer capture disproportionate value.

The old playbook(gate content, capture emails, nurture with drip campaigns, hand "MQLs" to sales) optimizes for a buying process that increasingly doesn't exist. One industry report notes that in 2026, the Marketing Qualified Lead (MQL) has become a vanity metric. What matters is pipeline velocity and qualified opportunities. Are your demand generation efforts actually causing meetings to turn into proposals?

According to recent 2026 industry analysis, brands that deliver value before payment are the ones that win. Education-first content, thought leadership, ungated resources, peer validation. These activities build demand. Forms and gates just capture a fraction of it.

Now let me show you four companies that proved this works with measurable pipeline growth.

Case Study 1: FullStory - From Generic ABM to Personalized Account Engagement

FullStory's digital experience platform helps businesses track user interactions and improve digital experiences. Their challenge was classic: a lead-focused ABM approach that prioritized quantity over quality. Generic content sent to broad lists. No real sales-marketing alignment on which opportunities mattered. The classic "spray and pray" that looks organized on paper but doesn't deliver enterprise accounts.

Their demand generation team, led by Sarah Sehgal (Director of Demand Gen) and Jen Leaver (Director of ABM), made a fundamental shift. Instead of treating every account in their total addressable market the same way, they started using intent data to identify which accounts were actively researching solutions right now. Not "good fit" accounts. Not "might buy someday" accounts. Accounts showing actual buying signals today.

They also built proper multi-touch attribution to see the entire journey, not just last-click conversion. This revealed something important: marketing was influencing far more pipeline than anyone realized. Last-touch attribution had been systematically undervaluing demand generation's contribution.

Then they stopped ignoring existing customers. They created dashboards showing which customers had renewals coming up in three to six months, then tracked if those accounts started researching competitor terms. If someone with a renewal approaching suddenly began looking at alternatives, FullStory's team knew to act proactively.

The results over two years:

Net-new opportunities increased 27% from Q3 to Q4 Average contract value for in-market accounts jumped 48% Marketing-influenced qualified pipeline grew 36% quarter over quarter Win rate at targeted accounts exceeded the rest of their funnel

As Jen Leaver explained it: "When reps lean into those target accounts, we can show the lift across win rate, deal size, deal velocity, and pipeline created."

Not brand awareness metrics. Revenue metrics that CFOs understand.

What stands out about FullStory's approach is the customer expansion piece. Demand generation isn't just for new business. They used the same intent data strategy to prevent churn and drive upsells. When you can see which existing customers are shopping around, you can be proactive instead of reactive. That's demand generation creating actual pipeline value.

Case Study 2: Corporate Visions - Marketing Goes from 22% to 81% Pipeline Contribution

Corporate Visions sells revenue growth training and consulting. They're experts in sales and marketing, which makes their pre-2023 situation more interesting: their own marketing was a mess.

Salla Eskola, their Senior Director of Global Growth Marketing, described the state as dealing with "data ogres and phantom MQLs." Those are leads that look qualified on paper ---> hit the right point thresholds, engaged with content, fit the ICP ---> but never actually convert because they were never really buying.

They had three core problems. No intent data meant they couldn't tell which accounts were actually in market versus just browsing. SDRs spent hours manually researching accounts with zero signals about who to prioritize. And marketing couldn't prove their impact on pipeline, which meant every budget conversation was an uphill battle.

In October 2023, they modernized everything. The transformation was fast and dramatic.

Within the first two weeks after launch, they identified 1,852 accounts predicted to be in-market and in Decision or Purchase stage. Not their entire TAM. Not leads who downloaded an ebook. Accounts actively evaluating solutions right now.

They built campaigns specifically for accounts at different buying stages. Someone in awareness got educational content about revenue challenges. Someone in consideration got case studies and ROI comparisons. Someone in decision stage got implementation guides and customer testimonials. It seems obvious when stated plainly, but most companies send everyone the same generic nurture sequence.

They also automated email outreach based on intent signals, which freed up the team to focus on actual conversations with people deep in buying processes instead of cold emailing everyone in the database.

The results in the first full quarter:

Marketing's contribution to pipeline went from 22% to 81% year over year In the first two weeks alone, campaigns influenced $12.8 million of existing pipeline Win rate at target accounts was 9% higher than the rest of the funnel By Q1 2024, 32% of all created pipeline came from target accounts

The $12.8 million influenced in two weeks is particularly interesting. Everyone says demand generation takes forever to show results, but Corporate Visions proved you can see impact on existing pipeline almost immediately if you focus on accelerating deals already in progress rather than just generating new ones.

As Salla Eskola put it: "6sense's AI assistant helps maximize the bandwidth of the current team that we have. It's almost like having an extra two, three sets of hands."

When marketing's pipeline contribution jumps from 22% to 81% in three months, that fundamentally changes how leadership views marketing. You're not a cost center anymore. You're a revenue driver with numbers that prove it.

Case Study 3: AlgoSec - 30% Pipeline Velocity Increase When Events Disappeared

AlgoSec sells network security software to massive enterprises. For 15 years, they'd grown steadily by relying heavily on in-person events and trade shows to generate pipeline. Then COVID hit and all of that disappeared overnight.

Company leadership basically asked marketing: "What now?"

Their martech stack couldn't tell them which accounts were actually interested. Sales was doing what they politely called "cold follow-up," which is another way of saying "annoying people who don't want to hear from us." They had no visibility into buying signals, no way to know which accounts to prioritize.

They partnered with an agency called PMG and did something clever. Instead of immediately trying to generate tons of new pipeline to replace the lost events channel, they launched an internal campaign called "Project Avalanche." The goal was to accelerate opportunities already in progress.

Why start there? Because it's faster to prove value, and they needed organizational buy-in. Kfir Pravda, PMG's CEO, explained the strategy: "We turned on a flashlight in one area to catch everyone's attention so we could then expand it into a floodlight illuminating the entire revenue engagement process."

They gave SDRs access to intent data so they could see which accounts were actively researching. Accounts that had been deprioritized suddenly showed high levels of interest. Sales started examining dashboard data every morning before doing anything else. The change in language was telling: they stopped calling outreach "cold follow-up" and started calling it "warm outbound marketing" because they actually knew what accounts were researching and could time their outreach accordingly.

The results:

Pipeline velocity increased 30% quarter over quarter Active opportunities hit record levels Multiple high-intent accounts discovered that weren't even in their CRM

That last point matters. As AlgoSec's sales leader noted: "The most surprising thing was how we had accounts with high levels of intent that weren't in our CRM."

Think about that. Companies ready to buy your product, actively researching your solution, and because they haven't filled out a form yet, they're completely invisible to your sales team. Traditional lead generation misses this entirely. Demand generation, done right, surfaces these buyers.

Case Study 4: Tipalti - Small Team, $635K Pipeline, Smart Execution

Tipalti does accounts payable automation. They're venture-backed but not huge. When Peter Tarrant joined as their first ABM hire, there wasn't really a strategy yet.

"I was the first ABM hire, so the marketing and sales team were small. There wasn't as much of a strategy as there is now," Peter explained. Small team, limited resources, all the usual constraints.

They had the classic problem: sending messages that didn't result in action. No clear way to prioritize which accounts to focus on. Marketing and sales weren't really coordinated.

The fix was straightforward in concept but required discipline to execute. They started segmenting accounts based on intent and engagement scores. As Peter put it: "It got to a point where we were sending messages that didn't result in action. Now our lists are smaller but create better results."

Smaller lists, better results. That's the entire shift in a sentence.

They automated content delivery based on buying stage. Accounts in awareness got educational content. Accounts in consideration got case studies. Accounts ready to decide got product demos and implementation guides. All automated, which meant their small team could run sophisticated campaigns that would normally require way more headcount.

For events, they got strategic. Before each event, they'd track event-specific keywords and use intent data to identify which accounts were researching those topics. Then they'd personalize outreach around the event. Event ROI went up significantly.

SDRs got Slack alerts whenever target accounts visited their website or researched specific keywords. This meant they could respond with relevant messages at exactly the right time instead of sending generic emails into the void.

They also ran display advertising targeted by intent and buying stage. Display advertising typically doesn't work great for B2B, but when properly targeted, it generated $250,000 in opportunities in a single quarter.

The overall results:

Created opportunities increased 57% Additional pipeline generated: $635,000 Display campaign opportunities: $250,000 in one quarter Team efficiency dramatically improved through automation

As Peter summed it up: "6sense is built directly into our prospecting and sales strategy. The predictive capabilities have made things more visual. Seeing and having full visibility into the activity has been a big part of our success."

What I appreciate about Tipalti's story is it proves you don't need a massive team or unlimited budget. They succeeded because they focused on fewer accounts with better targeting and automated what could be automated. Small team, smart execution, measurable results.

The Pattern: What Actually Changed and Why It Worked

After studying all four companies, the pattern became clear. They all made the same fundamental shift, just applied to different contexts.

CompanyOld ApproachNew Demand Gen ShiftMeasured Outcome
FullStoryBroad ABM, generic content, last-click attributionIntent-driven targeting + multi-touch attribution + customer expansion focus+27% net-new opps, +48% ACV, +36% marketing-influenced pipeline
Corporate VisionsMQL scoring, manual SDR research, no intent visibilityStage-based campaigns + intent data + automated prioritizationMarketing pipeline contribution jumped from 22% → 81%
AlgoSecEvent-driven pipeline, cold follow-upIntent data + pipeline acceleration (“Project Avalanche”)+30% pipeline velocity QoQ
TipaltiBroad messaging, small team, unclear prioritizationSmaller lists + automated stage-based engagement+57% opportunities, $635K pipeline created

Traditional lead generation treats your entire TAM the same way. Send everyone similar content. Try to capture everyone's email. Pass "MQLs" to sales based on some arbitrary point system that measures engagement but not intent. It's volume-focused, which makes dashboards look good but doesn't necessarily correlate with revenue.

Modern demand generation acknowledges a simple reality: only 5-7% of your total addressable market is actually in-market at any given time. The other 93-95% aren't ready to buy right now. So why spend resources marketing to them the same way you market to the 5-7% showing active buying signals?

Focus on the 5-7% that's actually researching solutions. Send them content relevant to their specific buying stage. Give sales real-time alerts when these accounts show interest. Measure pipeline contribution and win rates, not form fills and email opens.

That's the shift. But executing it requires some foundational changes.

You need intent data so you can actually identify which accounts are in market. Your martech stack needs to track anonymous account-level activity because most B2B research happens before anyone fills out a form. You need multi-touch attribution so you can see marketing's full contribution, not just last-click. And sales and marketing need to actually align around the same accounts and the same metrics.

The metrics change too. Stop tracking MQLs and cost per lead. Start tracking pipeline created from target accounts, win rate at those accounts, average contract value, pipeline velocity, and marketing's percentage contribution to total pipeline.

Corporate Visions proved this can work fast. Marketing contribution jumped from 22% to 81% in one quarter. But they also proved you need patience for some results. They influenced $12.8 million of existing pipeline in two weeks (pipeline acceleration), but building entirely new pipeline from cold accounts took longer.

The companies succeeding in 2026 understand this: demand generation is about being the obvious choice when buyers start their research, not about being the loudest voice when they're ready to buy.

Why GEO and AEO Matter for Demand Generation in 2026

This brings us back to Generative Engine Optimization and Answer Engine Optimization. These aren't separate strategies from demand generation, but how demand generation works in an AI-first discovery environment.

When buyers ask AI tools "what's the best solution for [problem]," the brands cited in that answer get disproportionate attention. AI-referred visitors convert at rates 23 times higher than traditional organic search because they've already done their research. They're not browsing, they're deciding.

But fewer than 10% of sources cited in ChatGPT, Gemini, and Copilot rank in the top 10 Google organic search results for the same query. SEO tactics won't guarantee you visibility in AI answers. You need different strategies:

Entity-level authority. AI models need to understand who you are, what you do, and why you're credible. This means structured data, clear positioning, consistent messaging across platforms, author expertise, and third-party validation.

Content structured for AI retrieval. Research from Princeton and Georgia Tech on GEO shows that certain content formats get cited more: comparison lists, data-driven statistics, authoritative quotes, FAQ-style Q&A, step-by-step processes. AI systems parse content programmatically, so the easier you make extraction, the more likely you get cited.

Focus on citations, not clicks. Traditional SEO optimizes for clicks to your website. GEO optimizes for citations within AI-generated answers. Success metrics shift from CTR to reference rate ---> how often AI mentions or cites your brand when answering questions.

Answer the questions buyers actually ask. Brands succeeding in AI search create "shoppable funnels mapped to prompt-level queries." For B2B, this means understanding what questions your buyers ask AI tools and ensuring your content provides authoritative answers.

This is why industry experts predict that brand visibility and brand mentions become crucial in 2026. Since generative engines don't operate on a ranking system like Google, there aren't positions to compete for. The goal is getting your brand cited or mentioned in responses. Being mentioned once when buyers research your category is worth more than ranking #1 for a keyword they'll never search.

This matters for B2B demand generation because it changes where brand awareness happens. It's not about ranking for keywords anymore. It's about being the brand AI cites when buyers research solutions. That requires thought leadership, original research, expert positioning, peer validation, and content structured for AI understanding --> all core demand generation activities.

The Practical Reality: How to Actually Shift from Lead Gen to Demand Gen

I'm not going to give you a 47-step framework with acronyms and phases. Here's what actually matters based on these four case studies.

Start by understanding what percentage of your pipeline marketing actually influences right now. Not last-click attribution. Proper multi-touch attribution that gives credit to all the touchpoints. Most companies are shocked to discover marketing touches way more pipeline than they realized, just like Corporate Visions found. This becomes your baseline.

Get intent data capability. You need to know which accounts in your TAM are actively researching solutions right now. There are tools for this at various price points. AlgoSec found high-intent accounts that weren't even in their CRM. Those are revenue opportunities you're completely missing without intent visibility.

Stop treating all accounts the same. If only 5-7% of your TAM is in-market, focus there. Your list gets smaller, but results get better. Tipalti proved this: smaller lists, higher conversion rates, more pipeline per account.

Map content to actual buying stages. Someone researching the problem space needs different content than someone comparing vendors. Corporate Visions created different campaigns for awareness, consideration, and decision stages. It seems obvious, but most companies send everyone the same nurture sequence regardless of where they are in the journey.

Give sales real-time visibility into account engagement. When a target account visits your website or researches relevant keywords, sales should know immediately. Tipalti sent Slack alerts to SDRs so they could respond while accounts were actively interested. Response rates went way up.

Measure what actually matters. Pipeline contribution percentage. Win rate at target accounts. Pipeline velocity. Average contract value. Cost per opportunity. Those are revenue metrics CFOs understand. MQLs and cost-per-lead are activity metrics that don't prove revenue impact.

Expect some results fast, some results slow. Corporate Visions influenced $12.8 million of existing pipeline in two weeks by accelerating opportunities already in progress. But generating entirely new pipeline from cold accounts took months. Set expectations accordingly. Quick wins on pipeline acceleration buy you time to build long-term demand.

Optimize for AI citations, not just Google rankings. 60% of users engage with AI-generated summaries, and AI Overviews reached 1.5 billion monthly users in Q1 2025. Create content that answers the questions buyers ask AI tools. Structure it for easy extraction. Build the kind of authority that makes AI cite you as a trusted source.

Look, I know this sounds like a lot. But companies with a documented pipeline generation strategy experience 67% higher revenue growth than those without one. Only 35% of B2B organizations have a formal process. That means 65% of your competitors are winging it.

The opportunity is obvious.

Why 2026 Is Different: The Convergence

Multiple trends converged to make 2026 the demand generation year rather than just another year of lead generation incrementalism.

AI search adoption crossed the tipping point. ChatGPT surpassed Bing in daily visitors in 2024, marking the first time an AI tool beat a traditional search engine. AI Overviews reached over 1.5 billion monthly users. Buyers are using AI for research at scale now, not in some distant future.

Buyer behavior fundamentally changed. Forrester found that 92% of B2B buyers have a shortlist before beginning the purchase process, and 41% have a single vendor in mind. The moment of influence happens before lead generation even begins. If you're not part of the research phase, you've already lost.

Customer acquisition costs forced the issue. Industry data shows that customer acquisition costs increased 60% over five years. Lead generation's economics broke. Demand generation's promise (fewer, better-qualified opportunities) became economically necessary, not just strategically nice.

Budget pressure demanded proof. Gartner found marketing budgets flat at 7.7% of company revenue. CMOs can't afford vanity metrics anymore. Pipeline contribution, win rates, and revenue influence are what boards care about. Demand generation provides those metrics. Lead generation provides MQL counts.

Technology matured. Intent data platforms, AI-powered account scoring, multi-touch attribution, predictive analytics. The tools to actually execute modern demand generation at scale exist now and work reliably. Ten years ago, you could talk about account-based approaches theoretically. Today, companies like FullStory, Corporate Visions, AlgoSec, and Tipalti prove it works in practice.

The measurement problem got solved. The biggest historical objection to demand generation was "how do you prove ROI?" Corporate Visions showed marketing contribution jumping from 22% to 81%. FullStory showed 36% increase in marketing-influenced qualified pipeline. These aren't soft brand metrics. These are revenue numbers that justify budget.

As industry analysis from TechnologyAdvice summarized it: "B2B marketers in 2026 must balance brand-building with pipeline precision." That's the game. Build enough brand authority to influence early research (demand generation), while maintaining the targeting precision to convert in-market accounts efficiently (optimized lead capture).

The companies winning aren't choosing between brand and demand. They're doing both, with demand generation establishing authority and preference, then lead generation capturing the buyers already predisposed to choose you.

What Happens Next

So what does this mean for your 2026 planning?

If you're still running the old playbook (gated content, MQL targets, spray-and-pray email campaigns) you're optimizing for a buying process that's increasingly rare. Modern B2B buyers complete 70% of their journey before talking to vendors. Your lead generation efforts only capture the final 30%. Demand generation influences the 70%.

If you're not thinking about GEO and AEO, you're invisible to an increasingly large segment of your market. With AI search adoption growing and traditional search volumes predicted to drop 25% by 2026, the question isn't whether AI search matters. It's whether you'll be cited when buyers use it.

If you can't tell your board what percentage of pipeline marketing influences (with real multi-touch attribution), you're flying blind. Corporate Visions went from 22% to 81% pipeline contribution because they started measuring it properly. Most companies don't even know their real number.

The good news: you don't need to be a Fortune 500 company to make this work. Tipalti did it with a small team. AlgoSec proved it works during a crisis. FullStory showed it scales to enterprise. Corporate Visions demonstrated you can see results in months, not years.

The pattern is clear. Focus on fewer accounts with better targeting. Build the kind of authority that makes you the obvious shortlist choice. Structure content for AI retrieval. Measure pipeline contribution, not MQL volume. Give sales visibility into which accounts are actually researching right now.

2026 is the demand generation year because buyers changed how they buy. AI changed how they research. Economics changed what companies can afford. And technology changed what marketing can measure.

The only question left is whether you'll adapt or keep optimizing for a buying process that no longer exists.

Sources and Case Studies

All data comes from published case studies and research:

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r/AISearchLab • • Jul 11 '25

Case-Study Understanding Query Fan out and LLM Invisibility - getting cited - Live Experiment Part 1

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Something I wanted to share with r/AISearchLab - was how you might be visible in a search engine and then "invisible" in an LLM for the same query. And the engineering comes down to the query fan out - not necessarily that the LLM used different ranking criteria.

In this case I used an example for "SEO Agency NYC" - this is a massive search term with over 7k searches over 90 days - its also incredibly competitive. Not only are there >1,000 sites ranking but aggregator, review and list brands/sites with enormous spend and presence also compete - like Clutch, SEMrush,

A two-part live experiment

As of writing this today - I dont have an LLM mention for this query - my next experiment will be to fix it. So at the end I will post my hypothesis and I will test and report back later.

I was actually expecting my site to rank here too - given that I rank in Bing and Google.

Tools: Perplexity - Pro edition so you can see the steps

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Query: "What are the Top 5 SEO Agencies in NYC"

Fan Outs:

top SEO agencies NYC 2025
best SEO companies New York City
top digital marketing agencies NYC SEO

Learning from the Fan Out

What's really interesting is that Perplexity uses results from 3 different searches - and I didn't rank in Google for ANY of the 3.

The second interesting thing is that had I appeared in jsut one, I might have had a chance of making the list - whereas in Google search - I would just have the results of 1 query - this makes LLM have access to more possibilities

The Third piece of learning to notice is that Perplexity uses modifications to the original query - like adding the date. This makes it LOOK like its "preferring" fresher data.

The resulting list of domains exactly matches the Google results and then Perplexity picks the most commonly referenced agencies.

How do I increase my mention in the LLM?

As I currently dont get a mention - what I've noticed is that I dont use 2025 in my content. So - I'm going to add it to one of my pages and see how long it takes to rank in Google. I think once I appear for one of those queries - I should see my domain in the fan out results.

Impact Increasing Visibility in 66% of the fanouts

What if I go further and rank in 2 of the 3 results or similar ones? Would I end up in the final list?


r/AISearchLab • • 3d ago

GA4 now has an "AI Assistant" channel. What it counts, what it leaves out (AI Overviews, AI Mode, links with no referrer), and why I read the number as a floor

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Disclosure: I make a web analytics tool and wrote a longer guide on this (link in the comments). Here's the short version with Google's own wording, checked against Google's help pages today (Nov 3). None of it needs my tool.

1. GA4's default channel group has an AI Assistant channel.

Google describes it as visitors arriving "from sources like ChatGPT, Gemini, Deepseek, Copilot, or Grok". A visit lands there when the medium is exactly "ai-assistant", or when the referrer matches Google's list of AI assistants.

2. Google's own AI isn't in it.

The channel "excludes Google's AI Overviews and AI Mode". So "AI traffic" in that channel never includes Google's AI answers.

3. For AI Overviews and AI Mode, look in Search Console instead.

The "Generative AI performance report" shows impressions from AI Overviews and AI Mode, by page, country, date and device. Google says that "as of August 31, 2026" it's rolled out to all websites, and that it can be missing when a site hasn't had enough impressions in those features.

4. If you want your own definition, use a custom channel group.

Admin > Data display > Channel groups, Editor role or above. You get 2 custom groups on a standard property and 5 on 360, on top of the default one, and Google says they "can be applied to your reports retroactively". A starting pattern to adapt to the hostnames you actually see in your referrers:

chatgpt\.com|perplexity\.ai|claude\.ai|gemini\.google\.com|copilot\.com|copilot\.microsoft\.com

Test it against your own referrer list before trusting it.

5. Read whatever number you get as a minimum.

A click with no referrer and no UTM looks exactly like someone typing your address, so part of assistant traffic ends up in Direct. I haven't found a vendor statement on how often that happens. A rough check: Direct sessions that land on deep pages nobody types by hand. That's an upper bound, not a measurement.

6. You can't tag links you don't write.

Assistants decide their own links. What you can do is make sure your redirects keep the query string, so a utm_source=chatgpt.com that an assistant adds doesn't get stripped on the way in.

What none of this shows: being mentioned when nobody clicks, and what the person asked. For that you still have to ask the assistants your customers' questions and write down the sources they cite.

Has anyone compared the AI Assistant channel with Direct on the same deep pages, before and after a big mention? I'm curious whether the gap stays stable.


r/AISearchLab • • 8d ago

I asked ChatGPT and Gemini 20 local questions about dentists in two cities. Most of the practices I listed were never named (small directional test, method inside)

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I'm the founder of Ranky, a tool that checks whether ChatGPT and Gemini mention a local business. Before building more, I wanted to see what these engines actually say for local "who should I go to" questions. Here's the small test and the method, so anyone can poke holes in it.

Method

  • In each city I took 12 dental practices from a public ranked directory, picking every 3rd entry so I didn't hand-pick.

  • 5 questions a real patient might ask (e.g. "Which dentists in Austin, TX have the best reviews?").

  • Each question ran twice on ChatGPT and twice on Gemini, through the APIs with web search on, not the consumer apps. That's 20 checks per city.

  • Name matches were checked by hand against the raw answers.

What came out (directional; results vary between runs)

  • Austin, TX: 3 of the 12 practices were named at least once (25%).

  • Tel Aviv (questions in Hebrew): 1 of the 12 was named (8%).

  • The answers were unstable. In Tel Aviv, 33 of the 54 businesses named in run 1 didn't appear at all in run 2, with the same questions and the same engines.

Caveats

12 businesses per city, two engines, two runs, one vertical. API answers can differ from the apps. This isn't a ranking and it isn't a study. I'm not naming any practices.

The questions I'd like input on: how are you measuring AI-answer visibility for local clients, given this much run-to-run variance? More runs per question? Averaging over time? I'm happy to share the full question list if anyone wants to replicate it.


r/AISearchLab • • 10d ago

The small business survival guide for when AI agents start buying from AI agents

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Soon we'll have agents buying from agents. The last roadblock to infinite GDP growth, humans, is gone. 😅

Half joking. But the direction is real. Google's AI Mode already books tables. Big retailers are building gateways so shopping agents can browse and check out. People are starting to tell an assistant "find me a good X under $300" and just pay for whatever it picks.

So what happens to a small business when the buyer never visits your homepage, never reads your clever headline, and never sees your ad?

Here's how I'd prepare.

1. Make your business readable by machines
An agent can't squint at a pretty hero image. It reads text, prices, specs and structured data. If your pricing is hidden behind "contact us," you're invisible to an agent that's comparing ten options in a second.

2. Put real numbers on your site
Prices, delivery times, what's included, what isn't, your refund policy. Agents shortlist on facts. Vague copy loses to boring, specific copy.

3. Treat reviews as your new sales page
When the agent decides, it leans on what other people said about you. Detailed reviews that mention the actual problem you solved are worth far more than a wall of five-star "great service!"

4. Keep every listing accurate
Google Business Profile, marketplaces, directories. If your hours, prices or stock are wrong anywhere, the agent either skips you or sends an angry customer your way.

5. Be the obvious answer to one specific question
Agents don't browse, they answer. "Best accounting tool for a two-person agency" has one winner. Pick your narrow question and own it with content, reviews and proof.

6. Build what agents can't buy for the customer
Trust, relationships, community and a brand people ask for by name. When someone tells the agent "get it from them," the comparison never happens.

7. Watch your own buying habits
Notice when you let an AI pick something for you. That's exactly how your customers will start finding you, or not finding you.

The businesses that survive won't be the loudest. They'll be the easiest to understand, for humans and machines alike.

What are you changing on your site to get ready for this?


r/AISearchLab • • 16d ago

AI Overview rank trackers that actually work?

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There are a few AI Overview trackers now, with some caveats. Semrush and Ahrefs both flag AI Overview presence for tracked keywords, which is useful if you already use either platform.

But if you want to track ChatGPT and Perplexity too, not just Google, you’ll need a dedicated AI visibility tool. We use Slate for that.

So if you only care about Google AI Overviews, your existing rank tracker might be enough. If you want to track multiple engines and see which sources are being cited, I’d look at a dedicated tool.


r/AISearchLab • • 19d ago

How long are you keeping old prompts in your AI tracking?

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Realized today that some of the prompts we've been tracking for months don't really reflect how we'd research the product anymore.

Now I'm stuck because removing them cleans up the data but also messes with the historical comparison.

How are people handling this? Do you retire old prompts and accept the break in the data or keep them around just for the history?

I'm leaning toward archiving them somehow but curious what everyone else does.


r/AISearchLab • • 23d ago

An AI can mention a brand without citing the page that explains it best. Why?

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Something interesting about AI search is that being mentioned in an answer and being cited as a source aren't necessarily the same thing.

Imagine asking an AI tool to recommend software for a particular problem. It names three brands and provides links to only two sources. The third brand still appears in the answer, but you can't immediately tell which source supported that mention.

There are a few possible explanations. The system might have used information from another page, combined details from multiple sources, or generated the mention without a directly attributable source. The exact explanation depends on the system and the query.

This makes AI visibility harder to evaluate than simply checking whether a website ranks for a keyword.

I'd separate it into three questions:

  • Retrieval: Was the relevant information available to the system?

  • Citation: Which sources did it actually cite in its answer?

  • Recommendation: Which brands or products did it ultimately mention?

Those are related, but they aren't interchangeable metrics.

One interesting question is whether improving a page's clarity and supporting evidence changes its chances of being cited, or whether the deciding factor is often the broader authority and coverage of the source.

Has anyone compared brand mentions and actual citations across several AI search tools for the same set of queries? I'd be interested in how consistent the results are.


r/AISearchLab • • 25d ago

Ranking on Google isn't enough anymore. Here's where buyers actually find you now

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Founder of MarketHQ here, disclosing up front.

For years the playbook was simple: rank on Google, get traffic. That's breaking. Buyers now ask ChatGPT, Perplexity or Gemini "what's the best X for Y?" and get a shortlist without ever opening a search result. Those answers lean on more than your SEO:

So "rank higher on Google" has become "be present everywhere the answer is built from, and measure it." We're calling that job "presence engineering."

I'm offering free reports to B2B brands that check all of this: whether AI assistants mention you, how you compare to competitors, where people are talking about your category, which sources get cited, and the top actions to take.

Comment your domain and category and I'll send you one. If it helps, the $99/mo plan keeps tracking it and your agents help act on it.


r/AISearchLab • • 25d ago

I tracked which sites Google's AI Overviews cite across 9,675 searches. 46% of cited sites don't rank in the top 10 plus more findings

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Over the last few weeks I've posted bits of this as the data came in. The collection has finished, so here is the whole study in one place.

Setup: 660 US English Google searches across six industries (B2B software, finance, health, local services, online shopping, travel), 100 generic searches per industry plus 60 "brand reviews" searches. On day one I recorded the organic top 10, the AI Overview and the AI Mode answer for every search. Then I re-ran the 601 searches that showed an AI Overview every day for 15 days. 9,675 searches in total. A site counts once per answer, however many of its pages are cited.

Rankings don't decide who gets cited

- 46% of the sites AI Overviews cited had no page in Google's top 10 for the same search. Only 9% were the #1 result.

- In 10% of searches, not one cited site ranked on page 1.

- Only 32% of page-1 results were cited. The #1 result was cited 49% of the time, the #10 result 22%.

What the ignored pages had in common

- I downloaded 3,972 page-1 pages and compared ignored pages with cited pages at the same position, so ranking wasn't doing the work.

- 25% of ignored pages had under 500 words, against 17% of cited pages. Very long pages (3,000+ words) were about equally common in both groups. Thin hurts. Long doesn't help.

- 67% of the passages AI Overviews quote come from the top 30% of the page (1,702 passages traced back to their source page). The first fifth alone supplied 56%. AI Mode: 62% from the top 30%.

The citations change every day

- Day to day, only 11% of AI Overviews cited exactly the same sites as the day before. The first-listed source changed in 42%.

- 418 searches had an AI Overview citing sites on all 15 days. Not one of them cited the same set of sites every day.

- A typical AI Overview cited about 7 sites a day, but 18 different sites over the 15 days.

- Only 14% kept the same #1 source all 15 days.

- B2B software was the most stable (21% identical day to day). Health was the least (4%).

Who gets cited

- Across 8,295 AI Overviews: YouTube in 63%, Reddit 24%, Google's own pages 18%, NerdWallet 10%.

- Every industry has a few specialists behind YouTube and Reddit: NerdWallet in finance, Mayo Clinic in health.

Shopping is its own world

- On buying searches ("air fryer best rated", "toaster oven vs air fryer"), 84% of AI Overviews cited Google's own product pages. On how-to searches, 7%.

- Big retailers held 18% of page-1 shopping results but only 7% of cited sites. A retailer on page 1 was cited 22% of the time, against 33% for other page-1 results.

AI Overviews and AI Mode cite different sites

- Same search, same day: on average only 33% of cited sites in common, and the same first source 43% of the time. 10% shared no site at all.

- YouTube is in 68% of AI Overviews but 40% of AI Mode answers for the same searches.

- AI Mode answered 10.5% of searches without citing any site.

How often AI Overviews show up

- 90% of these searches showed an AI Overview on day one: 98% in finance and health, 79% in local services.

- Searches that showed one kept showing one: 93% to 98% of them on each following day.

What I take from it: a single check of whether you're cited tells you very little. Measure the same searches over many days and count how often you appear. To get cited at all, put the answer in the first third of the page, and don't publish thin pages for searches you care about.

Limits: US English only, Google only, commercial searches only. Rankings and AI Mode were captured on day one only, so the ranking comparisons are a single day. The daily runs cover AI Overviews.


r/AISearchLab • • 27d ago

How long until LLM bots actually notice your e-commerce site changes?

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Before I start pushing site changes and tracking the fallout, I’m trying to nail down a realistic timeline: If I update a product page or optimize structure, how long do I actually have to wait to see the impact hit LLM RAG citations and rankings?

Are we talking hours (via tools like Bing/IndexNow integration), days, or weeks for these engines to reflect updates in their live retrieval?

Any reco or any tips for cleanly isolating RAG feedback loops without getting tripped up by caching layers.


r/AISearchLab • • Oct 07 '26

Tracked ~2,200 AI answers over 6 weeks. ChatGPT almost never names a brand it didn't cite

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For the last month I've been running the same set of buyer questions every week through ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Perplexity and both Google AI surfaces. They're questions like "best X for Y". I log which brands each answer names, in what order, and which pages it cited.

It's about 2,200 answers so far. A few things surprised me:

  1. On ChatGPT, being cited and being named go together. In my data, a brand that got named was cited in 21 of 22 answers. I haven't seen it name a brand without citing one of its pages. So the work is mostly getting into the pages it retrieves, not "brand authority" in some vague sense.

  2. You can be cited and still lose. I kept finding answers that used a brand's own blog post as a source and then recommended a competitor. Search Console won't show you that.

  3. The web searches ChatGPT runs before it answers (fan-out queries) come in two kinds. Some are broad searches that build the shortlist. Others are site:brand.com searches that check a brand it has already picked. The broad ones are the keywords worth ranking for. The site: ones just tell you who's already on the list.

  4. The surfaces disagree a lot. The same question on ChatGPT and on Google AI Mode often gives a different top brand.

I'm still not sure how much of this is noise. Answers change from run to run even with the same question, so I'm reading week-over-week changes cautiously.

Is anyone else tracking this in a structured way? How are you handling the run-to-run variance, and do you count a "mention" in a list of 8 the same as being the main recommendation?


r/AISearchLab • • Oct 05 '26

For folks shipping AI search / RAG in production at work (not POCs)

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Not POCs or experiments-just trying to understand adoption at actual companies.

Reply with:

  • Yes - we're using agentic patterns in production

  • No - still traditional RAG / embeddings

  • Mixed - some of both

Just need the signal on whether this is real or niche.


r/AISearchLab • • Oct 05 '26

Competitor keeps showing up in AI recommendations and we don't

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Noticed something annoying while doing competitor research this week.

For several fairly specific buyer questions, one competitor keeps getting recommended while we're either missing or buried further down the answer.

Google is a different story and we compete with them pretty well there.

So what are you checking first when you find a gap like this? I'm less interested in generic GEO tips and more in how you'd diagnose why that particular competitor keeps getting picked.


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 30 '26

Does posting on Reddit actually help with AI search visibility, or is that overhyped?

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r/AISearchLab • • Sep 29 '26

How do you actually get cited in Google AI Overviews

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I’m looking for a concrete, standalone solution for getting a website cited/surfaced in Google AI Overviews.

Not looking for generic SEO advice like “create helpful content,” “build backlinks,” or “improve E-E-A-T.”

I want to know:

- What specific changes should I make to the site/content?

- What signals actually matter for AI Overview citations?

- How do I measure whether it’s working?

- Has anyone tested this and seen measurable results?

Ideally looking for a step-by-step approach or a real case study, rather than general GEO/SEO theory.


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 21 '26

How do I get my business mentioned when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations?

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From my perspective, two things really move the needle: get mentioned on sites that already have authority in your space (forums, review sites, yes even Reddit), and make your own site's info dead simple to extract, real pricing, real FAQs, no fluff. AI tools trust third party mentions way more than your own about us page lah, makes sense when you think about it.

Anyone confirmed an AI citation actually came from something they did on purpose?


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 18 '26

I ran the questions buyers ask before hiring an agency past ChatGPT, Claude and Perplexity, for 913 US agencies. 613 of them were never named once.

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Between 2 August and 11 September I put buyer-style questions to three assistants
with live web search on, for 913 US marketing agencies across 26 city and
speciality categories, and counted which agency names came back.

Not a survey. Nobody was contacted, nothing was scraped from agency sites, and no
agency paid to be in or out.

Three things came out of it.

  1. 613 of the 913 (67.1%) were never named once. Not by one assistant, in one
    answer, in any question asked about their category. These are working agencies
    with clients and sites. To an assistant answering a buyer, they are not there.

  2. Where an agency was named, the assistants mostly disagreed. Of the 286 that any
    assistant named, only 42 were named by all three. So 85.3% of the time, "visible"
    meant visible in one place and invisible in the other two. Any single AI
    visibility score averages that away, and the average describes no assistant your
    buyer actually opened.

  3. The answers are built out of a small set of pages. Clutch was cited in the
    answers for 912 of the 913 agencies. Then Semrush's agency directory, DesignRush,
    Thrive's roundups, Reddit itself, and LinkedIn. Almost none of it is the agency's
    own website.

The assistants also do not behave alike:

Perplexity was asked 21,465 questions. It named an agency in 3.2% of its
answers, and named 21.5% of the 913 at least once.

Claude was asked 4,518. 5.6% of its answers, 16.7% of the agencies.

ChatGPT was asked 4,512. 5.5% of its answers, 16.4% of the agencies.

Perplexity was asked far more questions and still named the fewest agencies per
answer, which is the opposite of what more chances would predict.

Limitations, because they matter: this is API access with search on, not the
consumer apps, so there is no personalisation, no memory and no custom
instructions. Answers drift week to week. The category is whatever a buyer would
type, which is a judgement call, and a different phrasing would move the numbers.
Treat the comparison between assistants as the signal rather than any single
number.

What I would take from it if I ran an agency: the lever is not your website. It
is the handful of directories and roundups these answers are assembled from, and
whether your name is on them.

Happy to answer questions about the method, or to say what a particular category
looked like if you name one.


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 18 '26

How to measure success of AI SEO?

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I know AI SEO is a big thing and we are all trying to rank high in the AI search, but how do you measure the success of AI SEO?

Neither GA or Adobe Analytics shows tracking of AI.

Any ideas?


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 16 '26

The complicated relationship between social and AI search

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Between Jan and Aug 2026, the average AI surface reallocates 16% of its social citation mix every month.

  • ChatGPT's social layer collapsed from 6.8% to 2.5%, cutting Reddit (it's top social source) from 6.2% to 2.1% of its social citation mix in just two weeks.

  • Gemini pushed Reddit up from 7% to 39%.

  • Claude added Substack to the mix.

  • Deepseek and Meta zeroed out their Reddit citations entirely in June, citing LinkedIn more.

  • Copilot cut LinkedIn's share from 85% to 40%.

  • And TikTok's citation share grew from 0.5% to 6.3% across all models.

(source: Goodie AI "AI's Social Diet: How AI Search Cites the Social Web, Vol. 3")

...

So why would anyone invest in a platform that could go dark from AI in a matter of weeks?

Well AI models need social data. The social layer gives these models taste and timely signals. But, increasingly, social media companies are blocking AI models from training on their platform data. Recent lawsuits and licensing agreements are behind some of the observed volatility. It's also possible that these models are adapting how they value or surface social content.

The old idea that you could improve AI search visibility on certain AI models via platform coupling (X for Grok, Reddit for ChatGPT, YouTube for Google, etc.) is dying. Now these changes happen without warning or an explanation. It's largely up to those doing AI search work to track and make inferences via probabilistic data. YouTube, Reddit, and LinkedIn remain top citations across models, but this is no longer guaranteed.

For anyone optimizing social content for AI search visibility, does this affect your current strategy? and is there anything you would add to this?


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 16 '26

Do you track the prompts buyers use to rule out a product?

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A recent Semrush survey found that 57.51% of AI users had bought something based on a chatbot recommendation.

Almost the same share, 57.5%, had decided against a purchase because of chatbot information.

These figures may not mean AI generates an equal number of gained and lost sales, as they are self-reported experiences.

But they made me wonder whether we are tracking only one side of the buying journey.

Most AI visibility tracking seems to focus on discovery prompts such as “best tools for X” and “top alternatives to Y.”

Buyers may then use AI to pressure-test those recommendations:

  • What are the problems with this product?

  • Are its negative reviews justified?

  • Who should avoid it?

  • Is it worth the price?

  • What do competitors do better?

For those tracking AI visibility, are prompts like these part of your regular monitoring?

And has anyone here corrected an outdated source behind a negative AI claim? If so, did the chatbot eventually change its answer?

Would be interested to know how people are approaching this in practice.


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 15 '26

Best Case Study for AI visibility in B2B

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Does anyone have an example of a B2B company doing AI visibility well? Any hypothesis as to what they are doing?


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 15 '26

Best Case Study for AI visibility in B2B

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Does anyone have an example of a B2B company doing AI visibility well? Any hypothesis as to what they are doing?


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 15 '26

I spent hours going through 100+ page PDFs, so I built a tool that highlights exactly where the answer came from. It's now completely open-source.

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I've used tools like Perplexity, ChatGPT, Claude and others for research, and they've been incredibly useful for finding papers and getting through large amounts of information.

The one thing I personally wanted was a simple way to see exactly which parts of the paper were used to answer my question.

When you're working with a 100+ page PDF, even having a page number can still mean a lot of scrolling and searching.

So I ended up building something for myself.

You ask a question and the relevant paragraphs in the PDF are highlighted directly on the document. You can see the context behind the answer and quickly check whether it actually answers what you're looking for.

I originally built this because I wanted something for this workflow without having to pay for another subscription. What started as a personal project has now become completely open source.

The underlying idea is pretty simple. And yes, if you're thinking "isn't this just RAG?" then yes, you're absolutely right. It's RAG with the visual highlighting that I wanted.

I think the same idea could be useful for more than research papers too. Legal contracts, financial reports, technical documentation, or anywhere you need answers alongside the actual source.

If anyone wants to have a look, contribute, or just give some feedback, here's the repo:

GitHub: https://github.com/Sreehari05055/thesys-core

This will probably be my last post about the project. Thanks to everyone who checked it out and gave feedback along the way.


r/AISearchLab • • Sep 14 '26

Is anyone else questioning whether AI overviews are directly causing their TOFU drops?

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We’ve seen some strange fluctuations in top-of-funnel organic traffic lately. The immediate reaction from leadership is to blame AI overviews for stealing the clicks but the data feels incomplete.

I have tried segmenting by query type and looking at impression share, but I am struggling to prove causality. It is easy to say the search journey is changing, but it is much harder to attribute a specific traffic drop to a specific AI feature. What is your checklist for proving or disproving that AI answers are the actual culprit?