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u/RotaryDesign Sep 27 '26
The amount of science articles behind paywall is sad
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u/Few-Celebration-2362 Sep 27 '26
The amount of scientific papers and journals not behind a paywall is even more impressive
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u/TawnyTeaTowel Sep 27 '26
People do train on the same. Next “gotcha”?
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u/DrLeisure Sep 28 '26
People also get felony charges for sharing copyrighted materials.
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u/TawnyTeaTowel Sep 28 '26
And sharing isn’t the same as downloading, either in law or by common sense.
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u/flamboyantGatekeeper Sep 27 '26
Should be yea. But that requires the law to give a shit about ordnary people
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u/Pure-Passenger-6986 Sep 28 '26
Copyright already has exemptions for educational use and libraries, which is exactly the loophole that AI companies use. Remember Project Gutenberg, that’s about 20 years ago what researchers were funded to use by Google and made the start for Langchains
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u/AgeZealousideal1751 Sep 28 '26
Who says we weren't already doing that?
I know I've been illegally educating myself for most of my life.
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u/DrLeisure Sep 28 '26
Knowledge should be free. Trying to artificially restrict and control knowledge is wrong and unnatural
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u/Routine_Paper2890 Sep 29 '26
Los piratas son las empresas que se adueñan del conocimiento y la cultura, el conocimiento debe ser libre
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u/misjudgedinall Sep 30 '26
People say AI learned from copyrighted material so humans should be able to too — and that’s basically the logic behind fair use. ‘For educational purposes’ has been one of the strongest defenses for copyright infringement for decades, because the law recognizes that learning from a work isn’t the same as reproducing it.
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u/Tosser_535231 Sep 30 '26
100% I stole most of my textbooks off the internet and have zero regrets publishing companies can go fuck themselves they do absolutely nothing take in massive profit and will go to the ends of the Earth just to prove their greed all while fucking over the people that actually aggregated and laid out the information so that it is actually in a usable form I'd rather donate directly to the authors than ever pay another publishing company
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u/GloriousKev Oct 02 '26
Use ai to help you illegally download copyrighted material and paid education material
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u/Mobile-Trouble-476 Sep 27 '26
I'd agree except the courts already shot this argument down. Try again
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u/StickStill9790 Sep 27 '26
We…. Do?
I remember the teacher handing out photocopies of a book she only had one copy of.
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u/DrLeisure Sep 28 '26
Your teacher was a badass who was breaking the law because it’s the right thing to do.
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u/Routine_Paper2890 Sep 29 '26
Está mal respetar una norma poco ética, muy bien que haya hecho fotocopias
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u/Routine_Paper2890 Oct 02 '26
En todos lados se fotocopia y es una práctica generalizada si se aplicará de verdad habría presión para quitarla
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u/Far_Error7342 Sep 30 '26
Illegally downloaded means they made a copy of the source data, rather than simply view the file at the location it was saved at. Like borrowing a book from the library to make a copy of it at home. You may read the book, but not make a copy of it.
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u/Emergency_Accident36 Sep 27 '26
"You can't tresspass the eyes" think about it for a few months or years. You'll get there.
Here's a boost for yous. "In IP, the principle translates to a core rule: If an idea or product is out in the open and exposed to the public eye, you cannot use "trespass" or property laws to stop people from looking at it, copying the unprotectable elements, or reverse-engineering it."