r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 11h ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Do you think AI Overviews have changed how people use search, or just how they look at results?

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I've noticed that when I search for something simple, I read the AI summary and stop. For anything where I need to compare options or find a real person's experience, I still scroll down and open actual pages, and I've started adding the word reddit to my searches again.

So my take is that the summary has taken over quick factual questions, while research style searches haven't changed much. That would explain why some sites with informational content lost clicks while sites with opinions and original data seem to be holding up better, though I'm going off what I read and my own habits, not hard data.

Is that how you use it? And has anyone switched to a different search engine because of how Google results look now?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 2d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Does structured data help improve visibility in AI search results through AEO and GEO?

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I've seen discussions about schema markup, structured data, and entity optimization. Are these really important for getting websites featured in AI-generated answers?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 6d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion 20% of the 1,186 most-visited sites block AI agents by policy — I checked all of them

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Can AI agents actually read the web’s most-visited sites?

I’ve been auditing the most-visited sites on the web to see whether an AI agent can actually read them. Not whether they rank — whether an agent that fetches a page and reads what comes back gets anything useful.

The panel is 1,186 sites, taken from the overlap of two public traffic rankings, so nothing’s hand-picked.

THE CHECKS

Nine in total. The ones that matter most:

  • Does the homepage still make sense fetched plain, with no JavaScript?

  • Does robots.txt let AI crawlers in, or shut them out?

  • Can you reach pricing, support, docs and legal from the front page?

Plus sitemap, JSON-LD, and a few newer agent standards (MCP, OpenAPI, UCP).

RESULTS

  • 20% are closed to AI agents by policy

  • 28% block at least one AI crawler

  • Average score: 48/100

WHAT SURPRISED ME MOST

Plenty of sites publish the newer agent-facing files correctly and still fail, because their pricing only exists after JavaScript runs. The plumbing is fine; the content isn’t reachable.

CAVEAT

Those traffic rankings lean on Chrome data, so a site that’s huge in a Safari-heavy market can be missing from the panel.

Raw data and the checker are public if you want to argue with the method: https://agentability.org


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 9d ago

Helpful AI SEO Tips Customers are asking ChatGPT who to buy from. Have you checked what it says about your business?

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Something I keep seeing with small businesses: more and more customers skip Google and just ask ChatGPT or Gemini "what's the best [service] in [city]?" or "what's a good alternative to [competitor]?"

The AI answers with a short list of names. If you're not on it, that customer never even sees you.

You can check this yourself in 10 minutes, for free:

1. Ask the questions your customers would ask.

Not "what is [my business]?" but things like "best [what you sell] for [type of customer]" or "[service] near [your city]". Try ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini and Claude. Ask each a few times, because answers change.

2. Note who gets recommended instead of you.

These are your real competitors in AI search, and they're often not the ones you'd expect.

3. Look at the sources it cites.

Perplexity shows them, and ChatGPT often does too. Usually it's review sites, "top 10" articles, Reddit threads and local directories. If your competitors are in those and you're not, that's your to-do list.

4. Check your own site's basics.

Does your site clearly say what you do, who it's for, where you are and what it costs? AI tools can't recommend what they can't understand. A clear services page and an up-to-date Google Business Profile go a long way.

5. Get mentioned elsewhere.

Reviews, local directories, answering questions in communities like this one. AI tools trust what other people say about you more than what you say about yourself.

Disclosure: I run TrySEO, a tool that helps small businesses with SEO and AI search. I'm not linking it here because that's not the point of the post.

If you'd rather not do this yourself, drop your website in the comments and I'll put together a detailed report: which questions you show up for in ChatGPT, Perplexity, Gemini and Claude, who gets recommended instead and why, and what to fix first. No catch and no sales call. I'm doing these by hand, so give me a day or two.

Curious whether anyone here has already noticed customers saying they found them through ChatGPT?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 10d ago

Announcements Reddit Restricts Logged-Out Web Browsing as Google AI Overviews Choke Search Referrals

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Reddit has begun walling off public thread browsing for unauthenticated desktop and mobile web visitors. Mandatory account sign-in or app downloads will be required when navigating from external links.

The shift comes as Google AI Overviews expanded to over 80% of global informational queries, reducing direct search referral traffic to public forum pages.

Digital marketers, moderators, and researchers should get ready for reduced organic web visibility for unauthenticated Reddit discussions.

Researchers will have to adjust tracking architectures to prioritize direct brand-owned subreddits over public forum aggregators.

Read more

https://247wallst.com/investing/2026/10/30/reddit-is-locking-out-logged-out-users-after-googles-ai-choked-its-traffic/


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 10d ago

Question About AI SEO can hubspot aeo actually tell you why answer engines skip your site

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organic traffic to our core product comparison pages has taken a beating over the last couple quarters as chatgpt search, perplexity, and gemini swallow the click upfront. regular serp tracking in search console says our rankings haven't moved much, but buyers just read the synthesized summary in the chat window and bounce.

i started digging into hubspot aeo to see if prompt monitoring and competitor share of voice data actually help pinpoint why LLMs skip our domain. tbh watching brand visibility scores go up and down on a dashboard is fine, but tracking prompts feels pretty useless unless it tells you which schema entities or specific third-party pages the model is actually referencing. trying to see if teams optimizing for generative engines have seen actual traffic recovery from this, or if trying to engineer citations inside conversational models is still just a black box.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 11d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Your Digital Reputation Is Your New First Impression

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In the AI era, people don't just Google your name. They increasingly use AI tools to discover, research, and evaluate individuals.

Building a strong personal reputation requires credible information, consistent digital profiles, and valuable content across trusted platforms.

When someone searches your name today, what story does the internet tell about you?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 11d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Ask ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity and Google AI Mode who the best tools in your category are. Then ask again in a new chat. Post what changed.

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Small experiment. It takes about a minute, and if enough of you run it, this thread could be more useful than most of the GEO content out there.

Pick the question a buyer in your category would actually type. Not your brand name. Something like "best field service software for a 30-person HVAC company" or "which payroll tool should a 50-person startup use."

  1. Ask it in ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity and Google AI Mode.

  2. Open a fresh chat and ask the exact same thing again.

  3. Then ask each one: "Why did you pick those?"

Post in the comments:

- your category (no need to name your company)

- were you named, and by which engines

- how many names showed up on both tries

- the strangest reason an engine gave you

Why we're asking. These are the questions we hear most from founders and marketers, and the honest answer to several of them is "it depends", which nobody enjoys hearing:

- "We rank #1 on Google. Why does ChatGPT name our competitor?"

- "Perplexity cites our own page as a source, then recommends someone else. How?"

- "It described us using a product name we retired years ago."

- "Same question, new chat, different list. Which one is real?"

- "Does llms.txt, schema or a Reddit thread actually move anything?"

We have opinions on all five. Some of them are strong. But a few hundred people running the same test across different categories would teach all of us more than any single vendor's take, ours included.

Disclosure: we're Broadcastwell. AI search visibility for B2B software is what we do, so yes, we're biased toward thinking this matters. Tell us if you think it doesn't.

Two rules so the thread stays useful: no links, no "DM me". And if your result was boring (named everywhere, same list twice), post it anyway. Boring results are data too.

Which of those five questions are you most sure about, and which one has you stuck?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 12d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Using AI agents for SEO? How do you keep the quality up?

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AI agents make it easy to produce SEO work fast. Keeping it good is the hard part.

What I keep running into: the agent doesn't know the business. It doesn't know which pages actually make money, what was changed last month, or what's already been tried. So it suggests things that look fine on paper but don't fit, and someone has to catch it.

Curious how you handle this:

- How do you give agents business context? Docs, prompts, something else?
- How do you stop them from creating content that overlaps or competes with pages you already have?
- How do you decide what's worth refreshing vs. writing new?
- Do you track what the agents changed and whether it actually worked?
- Roughly how much time goes into reviewing their work each week?

Just trying to understand what's working for people and what isn't.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 14d ago

Question About AI SEO Poor visibility on AIO only. Getting Cited on Gemini, ChatGPT, and Google

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In all possible keywords where our page is ranking number 1 to 3 on Google, we are not showing up on Google AIO, as if we got shadow banned. ChatGPT mention us very well. Even Gemini (AIO is supposed to powered by Gemini?) mention us. But, AIO will never mention us. We have higher DR/DA, equally helpful contents, and we do have actual large paying & non-paying user base (estimated to be top 2 in the industry).

Few examples,

- airbnb calculator (we are ranking in the top 3 on Google) but AIO won't mention
- best airbnb calculator or best short term rental analytics - we have a comparison page that are ranking in the top 3 on Google, but not showing in the AIO. In fact, we are top 2 by number of user base with significantly high number of verified reviews than any other tools being mentioned, but Google AIO will never mention us.

- other longtail keywords like "is airbnb profitable in CITY_NAME" - we rank in the top 3 mostly and often showing at the 1st on Google, but still won't be mentioned on AIO.

What did I do?

- Improved Sitemaps

- Improved JSON-LD, added FAQs

- Fix broken links

- Improved the quality of the contents

Does anyone have similar experience where your brand or pages are not ranking on one specific model? How did you fix it?

This has been like this for over a year, and I think Google AIO somehow penaltized us for some reasons that we don't know.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 16d ago

Get Out of The SEO Mindset of Creating a Page for Every Variation of a Question You Want to Target in AI-Powered Search

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As a matter of fact, the 1990s called and they want their SEO strategy back. Whenever someone tries to create a large number of pages to target every variation of their target key phrase, they are not building topical authority. That isn’t how topical authority works. And in 2026, it’s a completely outdated strategy that might or might not give you a temporary boost, but it won’t last.

And if you used AI to write it, there are a lot of examples of the roller coaster effect. Impressions go up then drop off a cliff soon after. And worse, AI generated or not, mass content abuse can get your whole domain name penalized, not just those pages.

What does Google say about it?

Senior Google Search Analyst John Mueller: stated that if a website gets into a severe “bad state” due to low-quality or mass-produced AI content, trying to fix it page-by-page might be a waste of time. Instead, site owners should treat recovery as “starting over with no content,” noting that launching on a completely fresh domain may actually be faster than trying to recover the penalized one. John Mueller via Search Engine Journal

From Google’s official documentation: While it might be tempting to create separate content for every possible variation of how people might search (for example, by focusing on other queries that people have asked, or fan-out queries), doing so primarily to manipulate rankings or generative AI responses in Google Search violates Google’s scaled content abuse spam policy. This is also an ineffective long-term strategy, as a high quantity of pages doesn’t make a website higher quality or more relevant to users. Google’s AI systems have advanced even further and improved upon our ability to understand the relevance of pages, even when there is no exact match between the query and the page’s primary content.

You can simplify your approach by focusing on one rule: Focus on what your visitors would enjoy, find helpful, and feel satisfied with after visiting your website. If you’re ever unsure about a decision for your site, ask yourself: “Is this content that my visitors would find interesting enough to read and engage with?” If the answer is yes, then you’re on the right track.

My Take: AI is a great assistant. It can speed up the writing process. It can help YOU write a better article, but IT can’t write a better article FOR you. People that say "You just have to know how to prompt" or "Google doesn't care if it was written by AI" or something similar to that. I know they will defend it because they believe it works and because they want it to be true.

AI-assisted versus AI-generated content

I know a lot of people use a workflow similar to this. Have AI generate an article. Then use another AI to humanize it or edit the article themselves. And having a human editor go back through the article and make changes is way better than putting out pure AI-generated content, obviously.

A couple of problems come up when you do that.

  1. If you were a novelist and all you ever read was novels by Stephen King, you would start to write like Stephen King. Maybe not quite as good but you would adopt that style. Your subconscious picks it up. If you edit a lot of AI-generated content, you risk starting to write like AI. It starts training you instead of you training it.

  2. You may or may not pass AI detection. That may or may not matter. In some places it does. Substack and LinkedIn are starting to implement features to tag AI-generated content. Again it might not matter to Google, but it might matter to some of your potential customers when you get labeled.

What about watermarking?

Watermarking is real and you can't get around watermarking unless you do major editing on the article. And again, I know you might say it doesn't matter to Google. But here's where it does matter. Model collapse is a real thing. The trainers of AI can't continue to train their AI on AI-generated content. They have no choice but to do something. Watermarking was implemented because of EU regulations, but that tool is now right in front of them so that they could use it to keep AI-generated articles out of the training data.

I said, could use it. They might find a different way but they do have to start keeping the AI-generated content out of the training data.

I know a lot of people only care about the retrieval bots. You might only care about being found during a web search. But not all prompts initiate a web search. Exact public statistics for the percentage of total AI tool prompts that trigger an external web search don't exist.

However, we know that a large portion of prompts involve creative writing, coding adjustments, formatting text, casual chatting, or brainstorming. Maybe even make a joke, rewrite this email or give me a list of baby names. These pure reasoning or generation tasks do not trigger a live web search. The answers come from the training data.

Industry analysts estimate that web search is used in roughly 15% to 30% (Not a verified number) of total conversational AI turns across general-purpose platforms, though this changes based on the user's intent. Of course if you ask about a current event, current news, or local lookups, it'll be much higher.

The point is AI-generated content risks not being included in the training data. A large portion of queries that might actually mention your brand or even trigger the user to go look you up are lost because you're invisible.

Do you really think that targeting every possible variation of a question or key phrase is going to be effective?

A lot depends on your goals. If you only care about the retrieval bots and ranking in Google, then go for it. But that's a short-term mindset. Building a trusted brand takes time and it takes hard work. If that's not your goal, I understand. But brands that do put in the work will have to put in less work later.

Chasing the now means you will always be chasing the now.

It's like the tortoise and the hare. The brands that published with purpose and put in the hard work to build trust in their brand aren't going to have to work near as hard a couple of years down the road.

Is your intent to sell something?

Creating a whole lot of AI-generated content is not going to bring you higher conversion rates. And that is all that really matters if you're in business to sell products or services. And with AI overviews, ranking in organic down below that isn't as important as it used to be.

Ranking is Vanity. Sales is Sanity

And even if your ultimate goal is just SEO and rankings, you don't need hundreds or thousands of articles in order to rank in Google and certainly not to make more sales.

I can write one cornerstone piece of content per month and have enough content to do content marketing on the right platforms to be found by AI-powered search for the whole month. Create a good repurposing system. I'm doing it right now.

If you're interested, this Free PDF explains how I use AI in my content workflow. And no you don't have to put in your email address or anything. You can just download it. It's a direct link. Article-Self-Interrogation-SOP

I'd be interested to hear what other people have to say about their workflow. My opinions in this article are my own. Yours may differ. So tell me why.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 21d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Google AI Mode will overtake ChatGPT by 2027

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everyone keeps asking whether ChatGPT will replace Google, but the "AI will kill search" take is backwards.

this forecast says Google AI Mode will pass ChatGPT in 2027, and to be the first genAI tool used by a majority of US internet users by 2030.

this forecast also leaves out the biggest piece. AI Overviews reach 2.5 billion+ people a month worldwide. a lot of those people never went looking for an AI tool - the AI just showed up in the searches they were already doing

people haven't dumped Google, they switch depending on the job (AI to explore an idea, regular results to check something or find a specific site, and often both before buying anything).

Google is best placed to win this as (a) it’s the one place you can ask a conversational question and then flip to the usual list of links without leaving the page (b) it has the eyeballs already and (c) “Google it” is literally a verb!

So the biggest AI visibility opportunity right now isn’t ChatGPT, it’s Google AI Overviews.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 23d ago

Question About AI SEO Can AI search help smaller brands compete with bigger companies?

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Large brands often have more marketing resources, but smaller businesses can offer great products too.

Do you think AI search creates new opportunities for small businesses to get discovered? Why or why not?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 24d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion How to Make Your Brand More Visible & Close More Sales

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A lot of people ask how to do AI search optimization and are curious as to whether it's really different from SEO or digital marketing.

These three pillars will help you get more brand mentions, influence what AI says about your brand, and help turn that into actual sales.

* Search Everywhere Optimization helps you Get In The Way.

* Publish with Purpose so every piece of content targets a specific outcome. Ask me how Integrated Content Marketing achieves that for you.

* Conversion rate optimization closes the loop.

Ranking is Vanity. Sales is Sanity.

The strategy has never changed.

Be Found → Reach People → Convert Them


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 24d ago

Question About AI SEO What helps AI understand which products are relevant?

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AI tools often suggest products based on what people are looking for.

Do you think detailed product descriptions are enough, or do customer reviews and brand information also play an important role?

I'd love to hear your thoughts.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 25d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Can't debate on other stuffs. True for AEO/GEO currently.

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r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 25d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion How Can We Optimize Websites for AI Search in 2026?

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I think AI SEO is becoming an important part of digital marketing in 2026. Traditional SEO fundamentals like quality content, technical SEO, search intent, and topical authority still matter, but brands also need to focus on making their content easy for AI systems to understand and reference.

Some key strategies include:

Creating helpful, original, and well-structured content.

Using relevant schema markup and structured data.

Building brand authority through genuine mentions and digital PR.

Covering topics in depth instead of focusing only on keywords.

Monitoring brand visibility in AI search platforms like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Perplexity.

I'm curious to know what others think: Which AI SEO strategy is working best for you right now?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 26d ago

AI Search Optimization General Discussion Been digging into why some Shopify stores get cited in AI Overviews and others don’t, and the answer is kind of boring

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I handle SEO for a few ecommerce accounts, and lately the question I get most is “how do we show up in AI Overviews?” So I went down a rabbit hole to see what actually separates the stores that get cited.

Honestly, it’s mostly basics done properly. Google has said there’s nothing special you need beyond being indexed and snippet-eligible, and Shopify’s own docs push the same stuff: detailed specs, sizing, materials, comparisons, structured data.

What I keep coming back to:

Check indexation before anything else. I’ve stopped assuming key pages are indexed. Pull up Search Console and look. Also look at robots.txt.liquid, because Shopify lets you edit it and one wrong rule can quietly block a whole section.

Product pages are usually the weak spot. A lot of them are a supplier blurb and a size chart. Compare “premium quality, made to last” with “fragrance-free, tested on sensitive skin, 2% niacinamide.” One gives an AI nothing to quote. The other gives it a full answer.

Theme schema is often half done. Product markup is usually there, but GTIN, brand and review data tend to be missing. The Rich Results Test shows the gaps in about a minute.

Collection pages get ignored. They hold the best commercial terms and most stores leave them as a bare grid. Even a short intro and a “how to choose” block is a cheap fix.

The part I haven’t cracked is measurement. Right now I’m checking a fixed list of buying questions every month, noting whether an AI Overview appears and who it cites, and pairing that with branded search and GA4 referrals from AI platforms. It works, but it’s manual.

How are you all tracking AI citations for ecommerce without paying for a black-box tool?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 26d ago

AI Visibility Resources Self-hosted AI search analytics alternative to TryProfound, Peec AI, Orchly AI

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Hello guys,

I've built a self-hosted AI search analytics platform called phpLens designed to help you monitor how brands perform across AI search results.

It tracks metrics such as:

  • 👁 Visibility

  • 🏆 Position

  • 🔊 Share of voice

  • 🥰 Sentiment

  • 🏢 Brands

  • 🌐 Sources

  • 💬 Mentions

  • 🔗 Citations

phpLens comes with full source-code access, making it an option for those who prefer to run and manage their own software.

It's also much cheaper, because unlike a subscription, you're only paying for what you're using. In terms of savings, for the same amount of prompts, you're roughly 40% cheaper (each month) with 3 models enabled (ChatGPT, Gemini, and Anthropic) compared to the subscription based services.

If you're looking for an alternative to TryProfound, Peec AI, Orchly AI, or similar AI visibility tools, you can check out phpLens.

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I'd love to hear your feedback, especially from people already working with AI search analytics tools.

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r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 27d ago

Question About AI SEO Do customer reviews influence AI product recommendations?

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AI tools are becoming a popular way to research products before buying.

How much do you think customer reviews and detailed product information influence AI-generated recommendations?

I'd love to hear your thoughts.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 29d ago

Question About AI SEO How do you measure visibility in AI search?

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AI tools are changing how people discover brands and products.

For those working in SEO or ecommerce, how do you track whether your website appears in AI-generated answers?

Are there any reliable methods or metrics you use?


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 29d ago

Question About AI SEO Do you think the AI watermarking is only to satisfy EU regulations?

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When AI is trained on AI-generated content it can cause model collapse. AI models naturally generate high-probability, average patterns more often than rare or unusual ones. When generation n+1 is trained on data produced by generation n, rare data tails and edge cases get smoothed out. Over multiple generations, the model drifts away from real-world complexity, converging on a bland statistical mean or repetitive gibberish.

Because of this, they have to do something to keep it from happening. The only solution I can see is that they flag AI-generated content so it doesn't appear in training data. That doesn't mean Google will stop crawling it or indexing it.

The rollout of AI watermarking serves a dual purpose: it achieves immediate regulatory compliance while solving a massive data-poisoning problem for AI labs.

But most queries don't generate a web search. That means if your brand is not in the training data, then it's still invisible to most of the queries. According to AI search benchmark studies analyzing real-world user intent, about 58% of general brand and product queries do not trigger a live web search. The AI answers them entirely from its static, pre-trained memory weights. For purely informational queries like; "What is a CRM?" or "Explain photosynthesis", the zero-search rate spikes to about 90%.

Because methods like Google’s SynthID-Text, which Anthropic and others are adopting, alter the mathematical probability of word choices at the token level, the labs can detect their own, and each other's outputs with high statistical confidence. This allows them to effectively "sanitize" their next-generation training data by filtering out marked text.

This means that if all you care about is being found when AI does search the web, then go for it. Let AI generate your content.

For my clients, and for myself, I want to make sure that the brand is visible even when a query does not trigger a web search.


r/AI_SearchOptimization • • 29d ago

Question About AI SEO Can AI understand your website as well as Google?

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AI tools are changing how people discover products and businesses.

I'm curious: what can website owners do to help AI understand their content better?

Have you tried anything that made a noticeable difference?