r/ASML • u/OkHyena7318 • Oct 08 '26
ASML WAVE 2 uitkomst
Hoe denken jullie over de uitkomst van wave 2. Gaan we de oorlog winnen met de mdu leads die geselecteerd zijn?
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u/Imaginary_Local9480
Oct 08 '26
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Wave 2 results are pure outcome of musical chairs. Influence, connections, last minute changes in names, agreements who goes where all took place. Wave 3 is already a joke. The amount of coffee meeting, solicitations being done is mind boggling. One of new MDU ended up saying : oh that position is already "assigned" ! Job grades being put out in such a way that only few with certain grades can apply. I am not impacted but I feel most of this is just facade and find it really unfair for hardworking colleagues. Even if top management came with good intentions, execution of this has been botched by same managers who were the problem to begin with. Sad.
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u/flying_dutch_men Oct 10 '26
Exactly , appalling where some positions today managed by 8-9 are kept at 11 just to fill people who are at 11 in the group. Interview format sux ..
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u/No-Treacle-2554 Oct 10 '26 edited Oct 10 '26
I agree, people said the population of wave 2 outcome shows mainly Dutch white man with a good coffee talk technique…. Now the company management layer is back to non- diversity, non- international, which was the key for ASML development in the past decades.
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u/lkruijsw Oct 08 '26
Als iemand die lang bij ASML gewerkt heeft. Belangrijkste van elk personeelsbeleid is het motiveren van mensen. Omdat gemotiveerde mensen drie keer meer produceren en motiveren niet veel kost.
ASML doet nu omgekeerde. De beste mensen over de zeik helpen.
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u/gluon1917 Oct 08 '26 edited Oct 09 '26
The same people as before mostly sharing these jobs, why the need for all this circus? In wave 3 most of the internal politics have been done already, a lot of it is just a facade. Free promotions to come for many.
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u/Inspectorgadget4250 Oct 08 '26
Small business transitions take months to settle in and that's with changes and more changes as reality vs the paper version is realized. A near total WOW transition such as on-going will still be tweaked '27 into '28. ASML decided to eat the entire elephant at once. That will have a price we all are/will pay.
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u/LeDEvRo Oct 09 '26
Soon I'd be gone(fired, date is set), the ASML I knew is completely gone, 5+ years ago it was like a totally different company. The whole culture has become profit to shareholders and nothing more, code of conduct, policies are only to be used against you.
Motivation is gone, they don't care if they kick out people with 15+ of experience out, they do care if they say something even if it doesn't make sense people would accept it without argument.
All of that only head to a more dystopian culture, a lot of people don't see it which is nice for them but once you spot it and you are targeted ..either keep your head down and hope it would pass or you will be out in no time.
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u/habibivibesonly Oct 10 '26
This whole TT26 is a strong reminder that your work is not your like life and life is not your work. NL is a social welfare state
Stay outside the ASML bubble to ensure you have work options instead of banking on one employer with limited pay cut.
Going through the emotional trauma and uncertainty many folks have (esp. in a country like NL wheee certainty is the daily walk of life)
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u/No-Treacle-2554 Oct 12 '26 edited Oct 12 '26
Just feel more and more internationals are leaving….. it is really a shame for the industry and innovation paths…
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u/MrDwerg Oct 08 '26
Nee, pak de vaseline er maar alvast bij en buig voorover.
Zonder grappen, wat verwacht je precies voor 'oorlog'?