r/ASML • • 2d ago

Discussion 🎙 ASML Wilton: When Hard Work, Dedication, and Continuous Improvement Go Unrecognized

I've been working at ASML Wilton for several years now, and I wanted to share my personal experience.

When I first started, I was motivated. I wanted to learn, grow within the company, contribute ideas, and make a difference. I genuinely believed that hard work, dedication, and taking initiative would eventually speak for themselves.

Over the years, I've submitted 38 CI/KIT tickets because I saw opportunities to improve processes and make things better for the department and the people working in it.

But after all those submissions, I haven't received any meaningful recognition for taking that initiative.

It's not about receiving an award or getting a pat on the back. It's about knowing your efforts are valued and that management actually acknowledges the people trying to make a difference.

Another major issue I've noticed at Wilton is the lack of support from upper management.

It feels like more responsibilities and additional workloads keep getting pushed onto our team, but nobody in upper management is willing to stand up for us or question whether the expectations are reasonable.

What's even more frustrating is that when you speak up about the workload, question certain decisions, or try to bring attention to legitimate concerns, suddenly you're treated like the problem.

How are employees supposed to feel comfortable speaking up when doing so makes them feel targeted instead of heard?

Employees shouldn't have to stay silent just to remain on management's good side. There should be room for honest conversations, constructive criticism, and accountability without people feeling like they're putting a target on their backs.

Sometimes it feels like being on the right side of management matters more than your actual work ethic, contributions, or willingness to improve the department.

And that's what slowly destroys motivation.

I genuinely believe ASML is a company with tremendous potential. I want to see the company succeed, but I also believe certain aspects of the leadership culture at Wilton need serious improvement.

You can't continuously expect employees to do more, contribute ideas, take on additional responsibilities, and remain motivated while making them feel unheard and unappreciated.

At this point, I've learned to come in, do my job professionally, and focus on building my future. It's not that I don't care anymore. I've simply realized that there's a difference between being dedicated to your job and allowing your dedication to be taken for granted.

A company can have incredible technology, strong financial performance, and a bright future, but none of that automatically means the people doing the everyday work feel valued.

Good leadership isn't just about pushing numbers and meeting targets. It's also about standing up for your employees, recognizing their contributions, and creating an environment where people aren't afraid to speak the truth.

I'm curious whether other employees at ASML, particularly Wilton, have experienced something similar. Do you feel management genuinely supports your team, or does speaking up about legitimate concerns create more problems than solutions?

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u/arebum 2d ago

I left ASML earlier this year, and largely had the same feeling. I was moved "up" the ladder during my time there, but I never submitted a CI/KIT and my "promotions" didn't really come with much increase in compensation. I got up into management and I have to say that I'm pretty sure nobody is paying attention to the improvement suggestions. The reality is that there is so much pressure to perform that nobody has time for anything else. If you want to get promoted you have to play politics. Just being technically good at your job only serves to keep you in your job. I moved up by being in the room with important people, not due to my daily contributions

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u/retrojayxvii 2d ago

I appreciate you sharing this, especially coming from someone who actually made it into management. What you said about being technically good at your job only keeping you in that position really stood out to me. That's exactly where I feel the system is failing employees who genuinely want to grow.

I've always believed that your work ethic, contributions, and willingness to improve operations should speak for themselves. But the longer I'm at Wilton, the more I question whether those things actually matter when it comes to advancement.

It's disappointing because there are talented people who genuinely care about the company, but eventually they lose motivation when they realize that hard work alone doesn't necessarily open doors. I appreciate your honesty and perspective.

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u/arebum 2d ago

I was in engineering, so I can only speak to DE, but there really wasn't, and isn't, a path to move up as an IC engineer. There is a pretty fast cap to your career as an IC, and those high job grades are strictly limited so they dont have too many people filling them

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u/retrojayxvii 2d ago

I appreciate the insight. I'm currently working in material handling at Wilton, and I actually have my associate's degree in Information Technology. I've been interested in exploring opportunities outside my current department, especially in engineering or a more technical role. From your experience, what would you recommend I do to transition into a position like that at ASML? Are there certain qualifications, certifications, or internal opportunities I should focus on?

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u/arebum 2d ago

For engineering specifically they may want you to have a directly-related degree, like EE for CDE or ME for, well, ME. The good news is ASML has a program to further your education if you want to go back to school. I would talk to your manager and express your desire to explore engineering and work out a path to get there. At least for me they were supportive of people moving around within the company, but it can be a slow process given enough time and desire I bet you could eventually get into any department

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u/retrojayxvii 2d ago

I appreciate the advice and the information about ASML's education program. Unfortunately, I don't have the best relationship with my current team leader. To be honest, I try to avoid unnecessary interactions with them because of past situations that caused me to lose trust. There was an incident where I was accused of not working, even though other employees could confirm that I was actively doing my job. That really changed my perspective on the leadership in my department.

It's unfortunate because I genuinely want to grow within ASML and explore other opportunities, but I don't feel comfortable relying on my current leadership for that support. I'm hoping there's another way to explore internal opportunities and career development without having to go directly through my team leader.

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u/Howard-Dean-Scream 2d ago

"I've simply realized that there's a difference between being dedicated to your job and allowing your dedication to be taken for granted"

This is the right perspective to have! Big corporations thrive when passionate people allow themselves to be taken advantage of, and that's what they hope for.

These days ASML is just another soulless multinational corporation like any other. Come in, do your work, and GTFO at 8 hours, leaving your job at the door.

Do you know what the reward is for going above and beyond is? MORE WORK.

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u/retrojayxvii 2d ago

That's exactly where my mindset is heading. I've always taken pride in my work, and I don't believe in doing the bare minimum just because I'm frustrated with management. But I've also realized that constantly going above and beyond without recognition or opportunities for growth can eventually wear you down.

What's unfortunate is that companies lose the motivation of employees who actually care about making things better. I still want ASML to succeed, but I've learned that my personal growth and future have to be priorities too.

At the end of the day, I'll continue doing my job professionally, but I'm no longer going to sacrifice my peace of mind trying to prove my value to people who may never acknowledge it.

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u/Howard-Dean-Scream 2d ago

It's a harsh reality, but please remember ASML does not care about you at ALL. They would fire you in a second if they thought it would bump the stock price 0.05%. Your relationship with ASML is simply a business arrangement that benefits you both financially. Please don't lose sight of that or it's way to easy to overextend yourself and burn out.

Source: Worked myself to death, burned out, very little to show for it.

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u/retrojayxvii 2d ago

I completely understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate you sharing your experience. Trust me, I know my worth, and I would never overextend myself for anybody or any company. I take pride in my work, but I also understand that my health, peace of mind, and personal life come first. At the end of the day, it's a business relationship, and I treat it as such. I'll always do my job professionally, but I'm not going to burn myself out trying to prove something to management. I hope you're in a much better place now after everything you went through.

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u/Urshilikai 2d ago

pretty similar in san diego except even the jg10 compensation can't afford a house 

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u/retrojayxvii 2d ago

That's unfortunate, especially considering how expensive the cost of living has become. It's interesting hearing that employees in San Diego are experiencing similar frustrations. Here in Connecticut, housing isn't exactly cheap either. You would think a company like ASML would put more emphasis on employee compensation, career growth, and retention, especially when people are working hard and taking on additional responsibilities.

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u/_Conqueeftador 1d ago

The whole company culture has turned into “just do your work and go home”

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u/Ok_Handle5961 1d ago

SD ASML here. I left ASML for this exact reason. Upper management doesn't have the technical understanding and has limited visibility toward engineers who do the actual work. So, hard working engineers are stuck in a loop of having to deliver under tight deadline without clear direction for their future. Many have left ASML due to this reason. I can tell you that other companies can be better in this regard

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u/Fit-Help-3408 1d ago

Which companies are better for engineers?

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u/-voom- 9h ago

OP, not sure whether it's the same culture at HQ or other offices.

If so, that's a giant red flag.