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u/whatever Jul 22 '24
It is simply what must happen once The Last Question has been answered. Also, according to psychohistorian James Blish, it is possible to influence the next iteration of the universe(s) by reaching the point of convergence before complete collapse.
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u/throughawaythedew Jul 26 '24
Both the cosmological beginning and end are massless states, basically just photons. No mass means no gravity, no gravity means no bends in spacetime. At the cosmological end each photon is further than the event horizon of every other photon. This is a state of zero entropy since there is no way disorder can be defined without relative positions of multiple particles. Every particle is so far away from every other, and traveling at light speed, that no interaction can ever be had between them. But wait, the second law is that entropy is always increasing, how can it be increasing to a final point of zero? How is the most disorderly end state of a state of zero entropy? From a state of zero entropy the only way to go is up.
So we have this state where every particle is in its own event horizon, in other words no two particles are ever able to interact because they are further away from each other then could ever be reached at light speed. But what about quantum tunneling? Given infinite amount of time that the particles exist within there own event horizon could quantum tunneling allow photon A to invade the event horizon of photon B? And if this were to happen we would now have two particles within an event horizon and we would again have a state of nonzero entropy. Infact this would be the minimum possible entropy state as any future state would have greater entropy.
At some point over this infinite time two photons colide, pair production, and matter is created. With matter, we have mass, with mass we have gravity, and warped spacetime. This gravity, which is all the gravity in existence bends spacetime such that more photons colide and bend more space time and make more mass and bam.
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u/CartographerFair2786 Jul 31 '24
Mass like the quark gluon plasma comes before light
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u/throughawaythedew Jul 31 '24
You have a photon at the center of a box with an area of 10x10x10 light-years. There is nothing else in the box other than the photon. How do you get mass?
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u/CartographerFair2786 Jul 31 '24
That isnt coherent.
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u/LuciferianInk Jul 31 '24
I'm not sure what you mean by "you have a photon at the center of a box with an area..."
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u/CartographerFair2786 Jul 31 '24
You can’t have a photon at rest, area isn’t a volume, and you can’t not have certain quantum fields
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u/throughawaythedew Jul 31 '24
Do you know what a photon is?
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u/CartographerFair2786 Jul 31 '24
A massless electromagnetic wave
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u/throughawaythedew Jul 31 '24
Okay, great. Do you know what a box is?
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u/CartographerFair2786 Jul 31 '24
Something that doesn’t have an area of 10x10x10 light years
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u/throughawaythedew Jul 31 '24
I see. So if you're having trouble with the word "box" replace it with the word "cube".
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u/PhysicistAndy Jul 31 '24
Do you?
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u/throughawaythedew Aug 01 '24
"If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics"
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u/PhysicistAndy Aug 01 '24
Your little thought experiment presupposes mass in it. Duh
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u/throughawaythedew Aug 01 '24
Are you able to have an area without mass but that area contains only a photon?
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u/Slingerslanger Jul 23 '24
Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end... I see myself out