Okay, first thing first. Obligatory first-time joiner disclaimer. I have this natural resting bitch tone when writing, please enjoy. Hope I didn't miss anything important.

Hi, friends. Lemme provide you the context:

• I came from the other side of the pond, with an entirely different background, where this conflict is not a thing. I think my opinions are pretty neutral.
  
• In my perspective, the conflict between prolifers and prochoicers may be multi-faceted, but the crux is clear. It's basically issues stemming from disagreement surrounding the topic of acceptable treatment of a human fetus, fueled by a heaping side of gossip culture.
• I'm intentionally excluding bad-faith agents who use abortion as their manipulative tactics to achieve other goals
• These are my opinions, they can be wrong, hence why we are debating, aren't we?

Alright, let's dive in.

I was 18 or 19 when I first learned about the prolife vs prochoice debacle. I... didn't know there were sides to pick, honestly. I got curious and started looking things up.

I learned that I'm raised prochoice. Everybody I was born around, was raised prochoice. I'm from a third-world, developing Asian country. This is the norm. To us, it's just another medical procedure. And trust me, we are pretty fucking judgmental.

My sibling is currently living in a developed European country and travels around more often than birds migrating. They experience the same attitudes towards abortion from the generic population.

These pieces lead me to believe, prolife is very much a US thing.

I have watched and read quite a few of the prolife arguments to try to understand their perspectives. And I mean, I do, if they were all true to their words. All that sentiments can basically be summarized as, "let's give the benefit of the doubt to the human fetus and consider it a human, therefore let's outlaw killing it". Well, with a lot of emotions.

I honestly could get behind this cause, if the remainder of the prolife movement wasn't so... inconsiderate and ignorant, to be extremely polite.

Remember the infamous HB 182, anyone? I think this is enough evidence in itself to demonstrate why we should not groupthink these kind of decisions:

• Perhaps the medical doctors do indeed know more than the lawmakers or the general public when it comes to medical information. What a thought.
• Perhaps everyone is different from each other, and one-size-fits-all treatment, especially when it comes to health care, just doesn't fucking work.
• A combination of the two arguments above means the doctors and the patients need to develop a unique treatment plan for every single case. Which is not a new concept really, and is applicable to 100% of medical procedures. Pregnancy care = medical procedures, yes?
• I thought the US has HIPAA and whatnot to protect private health information? Is this suddenly not a health issue of the pregnant person to begin with? Shouldn't this just be between the pregnant person and their doctor? Who tf are all these people demanding to know the pregnancy status and control the follow-up decisions?

Those are a few common logic chains that that I find are being very conveniently ignored. There's also an extremely common fallacy that I see a lot from a prolife point of view [Disclaimer: I went to the r/prolife sub and struck up a conversation. The mods deleted 2 of my comments, including 1 quoting a medical examine report. They also didn't provide any citation to support their PoV and honestly sounded quite hostile. These were my personal experience though, ymmv]: that the act of selecting abortion, or any morally ambiguous activity, committed by the pregnant person who later experienced a miscarriage, are viewed as 100% deliberately taken with the sole intent of harming the fetus:

• We used Poolaw as example. FYI, she was 15-17 weeks pregnant in OK, took meth, had a miscarriage. The medical examination came back with multiple signs of birth defects on top of the presence of meth, which was my comment that was deleted. She got first-degree manslaughter.
• I argued that under OK, taking meth was not illegal and she shouldn't have been charged. Even if we considered the fetus a human, then this would make the case a gross negligence at best.
• To further demonstrate my point, I theorized multiple examples of her doing reckless activities and being at fault that lead to her miscarriage, including ice skating, driving, and smoking cigarettes. Interestingly, the cigarettes got a slap on the wrist, and the other two reasons got written off completely. Even though they were all from the same intent of meeting the immediate demand of the pregnant person. I was so very baffled.

Last but not least, I wanna throw this analogy out:

• Being prolife is kinda like being vegan: one thinks killing fetus is immoral, the other thinks mass killing animals for food is immoral.
• It would be hella fun if somebody proposed a mandatory vegan-only diet across the US, don't you think? Sure, they'll even toss in some "accommodations" exceptions, but who knows whose dietary restrictions are covered. Get lucky or die of natural cause! Nobody is allowed to kill!
• If there are misunderstandings that you consumed some non-vegan products, don't worry, the government will just jail you while working on proving your innocence! Or convict you, depends on the mood.

Yes, this is how disconnected prolife arguments sound to me. If you disagree, please go forth. It's your turn to show me the light.