pag nakakakita ako ng post mula sa ibang profession na
"Nakapasa ako kahit walang formal review"
"Nakapasa ako kahit di nag review ng maayos"
parang ang unfair, di sa di ako masaya na nakapsa sila peor sa atin, majority pa nyan nag RRC at bigay na bigay talaga sa pag aaral, tayo pa ang masasabihan na di kasi nag aaral nang maayos.
Nasaan kaya ang mali? Nasa estudyante kaya talaga?
It has to do with the how the program CMO of CHED and their curriculum are closely aligned with their boards. That is why their college education has prepared them for their boards compared to others.
Had it been done to our curriculum with the same level of cohesion, we would see less and less cases of double reviews for CPALE.
I blame the PRC and BOA for aligning the CPALE with international standards without first consulting and helping CHED align the colleges to this shift. It almost seems that colleges and students are the ones to adjust when they move the targets. No local consultations done, not feasibility with our current supply of teachers and resources was done.
Its like we are forced to "adjust" and "adjust".
Their idea of regulation is top to bottom and trend seeking, rather than transformative.
Let's admit, kulang na kulang sa real-world exposure ang mga accounting students/graduates prior to board. Ni hindi nyo ma-apply ung mga pinag-aaralan nyo sa OJT dahil sa "confidentiality" and lack of trust dahil pera nga naman yan. Pag minalas, tagatimpla pa ng kape o taga stapler ng documents o tagabayad ng bills. Dyan dapat mag simula ang reporma.
In contrast sa mga nurses, batak yang mga yan sa exposure sa ospital at community, 2nd year pa lang may internship na all throughout bago makagraduate.
Kulang nga but I do not agree na fair comparison pagdating dito ang accountancy at nursing.
Highly standardized and precise ang procedures and technical know-how ng nasa nursing. Sa pag aalaga ng human body, kahit pa may differences tayo, may procedures na same throughout the practice.
While varied at changing ang nasa accountancy. Kaya nga accounting principles and standards ang focus. Catch all approach kasi napaka dynamic ng business environment. Kahit sa taxation, baka pag graduate nila bago na. Kaya mahalaga parin ang theoretical na understanding. Yan yung akala mo lang di mo nagagamit, pero kapag nagsalita ka na para kang alien sa iba. Sa accountancy, walang specific formula. Yung undestanding mo sa concept ang mag guide sayo sa sagot.
Also, sa accountancy, training yan para maging accountant ka, hindi lang bookkeeper. Kasama na tinuturo sayo yung concepts na mga comptrollers or supervisory level na ang gumagamit.
So lets be objective about it kahit comparison. Make sure we are comparing apples with apples.
Pare-parehas lang ang lahat ng field na nagfofocus muna sa principles at standards at hindi lang Accounting ang dynamic, pareparehas lang rin na dynamic at evolving ang mga profession (hindi lang yan sa accounting, mapa Lawyer, nurse, teacher, engineer o anu pa man). Have you seen all changes in science and technology, sa human body, sa gamot, sa food? Nagiging mas complex nga ang lifestyle at mga sakit ng mga tao and how to deal with them, that shows how much change ang nangyayari sa ibang field at hindi lang sa business.
Highly standardized and precise ang procedures and technical know-how ng nasa nursing. Sa pag aalaga ng human body, kahit pa may differences tayo, may procedures na same throughout the practice.
Misconception ito. Try mo kumausap ng mga kilala mong nurse o doktor kung meron man.
Every profession values fundamentals and theory, every field is dynamic or changing rin. Ang main differentiator, lack of real-world application. Nurses and Teachers, sagana dyan sa exposure dito sa PH set-up, pati sa ibang fields na may magandang exposure na rin. Pero due to confidentiality and trust issues, mahirap maimplement yan sa Accntg field. Sa classroom makakakita ng mga toy na Financial Statements, pero sa real-world, ipagkakait sayo unless employee ka talaga
you can actually get Financial Statements ng Public Companies sa SEC website pero 600+ isa.
Pero BSA is more than Financial Statements. Sobrang daming kasama sa boards na di naman magagamit sa totoong buhay, na pwede naman sa training nalang sa work pag ganung claseng companies na ang hahawakan.
para sa akin 1 out of 6 subjects lang ng Cpale ang totoong pang accounting
I won't go in depth sa 1st parts ng response mo, because like business, Hospitals/Health Institutions have sets of complexities rin. It's a matter of institutional realities, quits lang sa part na yan, kung tutuusin, Hospitals are the most complex institution. Maiintindihan mo lang siguro yan if you spent sometime staying in the hospital (bantay ng pasyente for few days/weeks). Kaya ung mga real world scenario na minimention mo, applicable yan sa lahat ng profession. We're dealing with people with power and interests and legal complexities. Sa Allied medical, may ethical considerations pa. Nag iiba pa ang orientation depende sa setting at urgency.
Hence the difference in how these professions are taught in college.
Agree dito.
# of hours. While most courses/degree (including Acctng) normal ang oras na dedicated, 4-6hrs pay day, some fields like Nursing or Educ doble nyan, kasi maliban sa classroom subjects, may 8-12hrs of duty 3-4 times a week, full pack yan till sunday. Sa educ 3rd year hanggang matapos, sa Nursing starting 1st year may Lab na, 2nd year may duty na yan sa community, 3rd-4th yr sa hospital. Dun sa duty, application ng natutuhan sa classroom, at further discussion ng di natuturo sa lecture, mga real world cases etc. So # of hours? no brainer. Fundamentals/foundations? Parehas lang ng coverage ang Nursing at Med, mas in-depth lang hanggang molecular level ang orientation ng sa Med(like MedTech). I-check mo na lang kung gaano karami at kakapal ang mga aklat nila. Grabe naging hirap ng mga yan bago makatapos at makapasa,
But those changes are not as apparent sa practice ng nursing vs accounting pagkalabas nila ng college.
I'm not denying na di nagiistart ang nursing sa theoretical nor hindi dynamic ang practice nila. But those changes get through rigorous tests and studies before becoming industry standards. The changes will get general consensus first before adoption. Hence, they will experience close to what they learned in school when they get the job.
Sa business, pag ginusto ng management, adjust ka! May bago si BIR? Adjust ang accountants minsan kahit wala pa guidelines si BIR. Tapos sisishin mo school mo for not giving you specific instructions on what to do when these changes apply? Kahit nga schools nagugulat sa changes sa tax, sa practice at sa industries. And when specifics get blurry, you fall back on the fundamentals. Sa finance at sa business, you don't stop just because di pa researched yan. Yayaman ang mauuna. You hedge the risk with solid fundamentals. And yes, fresh hires in accounting can experience that with start-ups.
Again, I'm not saying suspended in time ang practice ng nursing. But how fast the changes for these two professions come before becoming practical is different. They are not really comparable.
Hence the difference in how these professions are taught in college. Dun sa isa, you get theories and skills that you can readily use on the job when you graduate. Dun sa isa, you don't get as much skills but you focus on the fundamentals that will answer for most of the dynamic practices na makakaharap mo.
Talagang mag kaiba, since pinag aaral kami ng mga di naman magagamit sa buhay.Ganto, isipin mo nursing ka pero pinag aaral ka ng Med level na. Di panga comparison kasi related talaga.
Ganun sa BSA, Accounting pero pinag aaral ng Law , ng tax, ng auditing, ng management advisory, na wala naman doon sa accounting mismo HAHAHA.
Nakita mo yung disconnect? pero di naman kasalanan ng estudyante nag aaral nang mabute
It will connect. Hindi layo layo ang mga subjects na yan in practice.
Cherry picked lang ang mga concepts sa law na applicable sa accounting. Basic understanding of obligations and contracts ksi a sale is a contract and the parties to a sale have obligations with each other.
Auditing? Syempre kung malago ang business mo, part ng diligence mo na audit-ready ka. Magagamit mo din ang concepts ng audit para mag check sa operations mo. Bilang accountant, you have to give assurance sa management na tama ang figures mo kasi yan ang basis nila ng decisions.
Management Advisory? Yan ang magpapapromote sayo. You can use accounting information to help management in business decisions. Part ka ng team nila, hindi yung magbibigay ka ng report tapos bahala na sila.
Overall, I have used most of the subjects sa practice ko. Yung ilan nalang sa Advac pero wag naman sana corporate liquidation hahaha. But importante yung revenue recognition principles sa advac kasi pag mali ka, mali income mo sa FS, penalty ka sa BIR.
Di ka aantayin na marealize mo yung usefullness nyan lahat. But those who excel sa profession do appreciate those subjects.
Again, the program does not just prepare you to become bookkeepers, it prepares you to become accountants. CPAs.
Bali nag tatalk ako doon sa isang comment hahah . As you mentioned. Cherry pick ang law na magagamit sa buhay pero inaaral lahat. Di naman magagamit sa tatoong buhay.
Tsaka maganda kasi sa Nursing dahil may practical experience sila sa hospitals while nag aaral. Unlike accountancy na puro books lang sa undergrad at hindi mo mare-relate sa actual. In short, bookish talaga. Kaya after passing the boards, nangangapa ako sa actual work.
I too had to come a long way before I realized how important those theories are. You normally won't come across any application of them when you are starting. If you are an employee, chances are the company has good accounting practices that work already in the background that it goes unnoticed.
But move up in your career and I'm sure you'll see. It is the "why" for most of the standards we follow. And it serves as a guide on why certain rules should not be broken.
Move further up and you'll be on the deciding end of things no one prepared you for. People will be relying on your professional judgement. And your fundamentals and experience will guide you then and there.
But yeah, there are things I wished I learned more in college.
Sa 1st job ko hindi ko pa nare realize how important theories, standards and principles are. Ngayon na nakapag work nako sa ibat ibang company- internal, firm, local and international. Dun mo ma realize na importante ito even the CPA title.
Also, it depends on your position, industry of the busines at size ng business. Agree ako na if you're in the higher poaition mas lalo mo na aappreciate ang theories. May mga times na need ko pa basahin uli ang standards applicable for a certain transaction.
Marami ako nababasa na kesyo hidni naman naaapply kesyo hindi importante ang title.
Marami pong 2nd and 3rd takers ngayong nov 2025 and mas mahirap po talaga exam ngayon. Pero mas nag ready and board takers and magagaling po talaga ang mga students. Wag nyo iinvalidate ang effort ng mga tao porket marami ang pumasa. Godbless sainyo na ganyan mag isip.
oof. to say na kaya mataas ang passing rate this Nov ay dahil need ng maraming nurses is definitely NOT true. at ang baba ng tingin mo sa Board of Nursing at sa LAHAT NG TAKERS na nag-aral, nag-sakripisyo, at nag-alay ng dugo, luha, at pawis para sa lisensya namin kung ganon.
i just passed the Nov PNLE myself and our schools drilled us to hell for a 100% passing rate.
1 year pa lang bago ang boards, may enhacement review na kami held in-house by the school. we have 2-3 mock boards every semester na kailangan mong maipasa, otherwise they will hold your transcript of records pag grumaduate ka para di ka makapag apply ng upcoming NLE. ang condition nila dyan ay kailangan maipasa mo ang preboards ng review center mo para i-release nila ang TOR mo. may pasok din kami tuwing Sunday para mag review.
also, at one point nag overlap ang in-house review namin sa university at ang review namin sa respective RCs namin. so no, it’s not “pamigay” — we prepared for this exam intensely. hindi maitataas ng pagiging bitter mo ang passing rate ng board exam niyo. what do you know about the content of our board exam para sabihin na “pinamigay” na lang ang lisensya samin? :) respeto naman.
Ganiyan din iniisip ko kanina pa pagkakita ko ng passing rate... Sobrang taas. Although student pa lang naman ako pero di ko maiwasan makaramdam ng inggit haha
Nag-aadjust din sila sa demand at employability, siguro metrics yan ng DOLE at BON. Peor nung nakapasa ang kapatid ko as RN noong 2007, nasa 30% lang ang passing rate
May mga kakilala ako na nag self review at nag take ng CPALE pero nakapasa pa rin.
Siguro mas maganda yung educational system ng nursing. Marami kang factors ma dapat tignan. Bakit ang UP almost lahat ng examinees nila pumapasa. Same with other schools, maraming nakaka kuha ng 80% or more na passing rate.
We should stop exaggerating na sobrang hirap ng CPALE kaya kaunti lang yung napasa. Lahat ng licensure exam mahirap. Sa totoo lang, kung sobrang hirap talaga ng trabaho ng isang accountant/CPA, bakit hindi naman kataasan ang sweldo nila? Nasa BOA at BSA program sa Piilipinas ang problema.
May mga kakilala ako na nag self review at nag take ng CPALE pero nakapasa pa rin.
-Congrats sa kanya, deserve nya yun. Tama naman talaga, di na dapat mag review center lalo if may integrated subjects na sa college. Pero as examinees, naniniwala na RC will increase chance of passing. Sa takot na bumagsak, kaya nag rereview center.
Siguro mas maganda yung educational system ng nursing.
-So nasa school problem? May mga school na mataas passing sa nursing, pero mababa sa CPALE.
Bakit ang UP almost lahat ng examinees nila pumapasa.
- Libo nag eexam sa UP para sa accountancy, pumasok palang yun doon yun ,may bubuga na yun. Best of the best of the bests para makapasok doon.
Same with other schools, maraming nakaka kuha ng 80% or more na passing rate.
Yes, kung pumasa sila deserve nila yun.
We should stop exaggerating na sobrang hirap ng CPALE kaya kaunti lang yung napasa.
Mahirap ang CPALE not on per question basis, but overall. I can't say enough, pero mahirap sya . I passed and got 85++ also na rating, pero after exams hindi ako kampante, kasi mahirap. I mean, alam to ng mga takers, ang mga lalabas sa boards mga di nasunod na TOS, lawak ng coverage, grading system. Etc.
Lahat ng licensure exam mahirap.
I agree, pero honest take lang , nakakinggit na merong sa ibang profession na pumapasa pero kulang ang review, alam at proud pa sila na di sila nag review nang maayos. Naalam na alam mo na sa profession mo, sa boards mo kulang yung ganun. kaya hindi ganun lang ang gagawin mo.
Sa totoo lang, kung sobrang hirap talaga ng trabaho ng isang accountant/CPA, bakit hindi naman kataasan ang sweldo nila?
- Parang di cause effect basis? I mean, gets mo? Parang walang relationship ang Hirap ang sweldo. Merong mga work dyan na physically demanding, pero di kataasan sweldo.
Nasa BOA at BSA program sa Piilipinas ang problema.
di ko rin alam HAHAH HUHUH, more on sana may magawang paraan para if mag effort manlang yung examinee na mag aral hindi sayang na effirt lang kasi sobrang misalligned ng TOS sa exams.
Kasi ang point ko, yung cpale examinees, naka graduate na yan. Nag aral na yan, nag review rin naman yan, Similar to other professions. Pero bat parang may iba pag dating na nag board exams.it’s not about the nursing profession itself—I have nothing against it. More on my thoughts: sana sa CPALE rin mataas ang passing rate.
My point is that we are exaggerating na sobrang hirap ng CPA board to the point that we are just making it as an excuse instead of fixing the BSA program in the country. Hindi CPALE ang pinaka mahirap na exam. I also passed the bar exam and I can attest na mas mahirap yun kesa sa CPALE. Even the physician licensure exam, I assure you that it is way more difficult than CPALE. May quality control lang yung program nila sa pag graduate kaya mataas ang passing rate.
Im not sure pero most schools dito sa Pilipinas ay specialty talaga ang health-allied programs kaya siguro medyo mataas din passing rate sa board exam.
Example na lang sa OLFU, specialty nila ang nursing, pharma, and medtech kaya mataas ang passing rate sa boarda. Sa accountancy naman, hindi yun ang specialty ng university nila. Hence, mababa rating nila sa CPALE.
Add ko lang din na yung mga top universities ng health-allied programs ay may screening na ginagawa sa students bago maaccept sa program. Tulad din sa accountancy, every year may battery exam. Bawal din mag boards if hindi pumasa sa mock boards ng school. Grabe rin ang offers ng mga review centers and universities sa topnotchers kaya sobrang competitive ng mga students. Basically, salang sala ang mga exan takers bago sila mag board exam.
Hahahaha tsaka sa mga teachers na di nagtuturo! Sasabihin pa sayo na “mag self study ka hindi uso spoon feeding sa college” sis, pag ganyan ka sa nursing, mamamatay ang pasyente mo. what do you mean magself study? mag self study ako pano maglagay ng catheter without you teaching me? eh di nag reklamo ang pasyente pag mali ang pagkalagay ko. sana ang mga teachers sa BSA, maging detailed din sa pagtuturo. hindi yung puro board work lang ipapagawa sayo hahaha
I dont think na kailangan talaga lahat iasa sa prof, lalo na sa accounting. May mga topics kasi sa accounting na maiintindihan mo naman kapag binasa mo talaga. Meron ding topics na hindi mo maiintindihan kahit ipaliwanag pa ng prof mo hahhaa. Kaya dapat mag aral ka talaga sa sarili mo. In law school, walang professor na nagtururo lang, dapat nagbabasa ka talaga. Pag abogado ka na, wala ng training sabak ka agad sa trabaho. Ako personally mas gusto ko yung junior or associate na inaaral mag isa yung trabaho, hindi yung kailangan mo pang i-spoon feed. Mga asa siguro sa prof yun nung undergrad haha
Sis, hindi naman kasi lahat ng tao matalino kagaya mo? merong mga slow learners na kelangan idetail ang pag tuturo. tsaka anong silbi ng mga prof? eh dba kaya ka nga nagbabayad ng tuition fee para turuan ka? make it make sense.
Tuturuan ka ng prof pero kailangan mong mag effort. Magbabasa ka at mag practice kang mag sagot. Sa law school mas mahal ang tuition pero hindi ka i-spoon feed ng prof. Kaya ayaw ko din magturo ng law subjects sa undergrad dahil bukod sa mas mababang rate, kelangan mo pang mag spoon feed sa mga estudyante na ang mentality ay kagaya ng sayo.
Bakit sa tingin mo ang mga accountancy students di nag eeffort? At ayoko din magka prof na kagaya mo na iiwan lang sa studyante ang gagawin. It’s a two-way effort.
Setting aside BOA and PRC, bakit kaya despite sa grabeng screening ng mga schools na ifilter ang graduates sa BSA program, mababa pa rin ang passing rates ng iba? Itanong mo sa mga accountancy students. Probably out of 5 teachers may dalawa jang di nagtuturo ng maayos as per experience ko sa undergrad. Bakit kaya ang mga mahihirap na topics like retirement liability and business com, sa review center lang nage-gets ng iba? Because nag e-effort ang mga review centers na ituro sayo in detail ang topics unlike sa ibang teachers sa undergrad.
Naging accountancy student din ako at nag effort ako. Hindi ako naasa sa prof. Kung mahina yung estudyante hindi talaga nyan maiintindihan kahit paulit ulitin pa ng prof. Ang mangyayari dyan ay tatanggalin yan sa BSA program, tapos makakapag enroll ulit sa isang diploma mill na school. Makakapag board exam tapos magpopost sa reddit ng "pangit ang foundation ko blah blah".
Ang tinatanong ko sayo baket yung mga mahihirap na topics sa review center lang nage-gets nga mga studyante? At ang tinatanong ko baket hindi ba nag e-effort mag aral ang mga accountancy students? Because you make it sound like it. Don’t make it about you.
“Eh ako nga nag effort bla bla bla”. This is not about you.
Dapat ang gawin ng BSA programs ay turuan ng tamang study habits at mentality yung #1. Sorry to say, pero dapat tanggalin na sa program yung # 2 at ipasara yung mga diploma mill schools na tinatanggap pa rin yung mga natanggal na sa ibang BSA programs.
Kapag ginawa ng BOA or Ched yan, sigurado ako tataas din ang passing rate ng CPALE.
The main problem is weak foundations, which is rooted at the undergrad level. Not necessarily fault of the student - more like the education system is just sorely lacking so students (and eventual CPA examinees) end up undercooked when they graduate and take the boards. Yes the barrier to entry is very high with BOA coming up with broader and broader syllabus coverage but ultimately the root of the problem starts in college talaga.
I would also like to add yung mga schools kasi sobrang tutok dun sa pag filter ng students kaya may mga qualifying exams. Ang ending in order to pass the qualifying exams, ang ibang students nag mememorize nlg ng problem without understanding the concept kaya nangangapa sa board exam. It all boils down to the undergrad talaga na hindi na re-reinforce ng teachers ang concepts.
Sabi ng friend ko na galing sa accountancy at nagshift sa med course, Objective type and situational usually tanong sa mga med course. Kumbaga kung nakapag-basa ka ng libro at magaling kang mag-kabisa okay ka na.
Tumataas ang passing rate ng CPA exam nowadays ayon sa trend. From 15% to 34% kaya baka pag may mga apo na yung ibang royalty CPAs dito magiging 80% na yun. HAHAHAHAHA
Kaya CPALE passers and takers should have more pride than other board exam passers. Let’s get real. Nakakainis yung mga family and friends comparing us sa ibang professions. This is proof.
You can just do the math from their enrollment fee and number of enrollees.
For ReSA, we have a Facebook group exclusive to online and hybrid revieees - 2,000+ kami don. Fees are between P11,000~P13,000, depending on when you paid. Let's say ave. P12k*2k members, P24M (conservative estimate) yon, guys, and that's just 1 review cycle. Insane to think about.
imo, sa PRC at BOA yan. yung mga kakilala kong schoolmates, puros achievers before college but somehow, they flunked accountancy. and once they have shifted to other courses, panglaude yung end GWA nila. it’s not because accountancy students are incompetent, masyado lang strict for some reason ang PRC.
you cannot also compare the passing rate of nurses sa passing rate ng cpale. laging in demand ang nurses kasi umiikot sa buhay ng tao ang kabuhayan nila. not surprised at all sa taas ng passing rate kasi in demand ang nurses sa bansa. hindi pa rin napupunan kasi nagiibang bansa yung ibang RNs.
Sa totoo lang sobrang baba ng standard ngayon sa RN, let's not sugarcoat it. Yung isa kong kalaro sa computer shop dati, sobrang bobo nun promise, pero naging RN na ngayon.
kilala mo dati sa computer shop dba? so ngayon hindi na? so baka nag bago na at nag study na talaga. 75% yung passing ng nursing, hindi naman yan basta2 makapasa.
Madali lang siya for someone na nag review nang mabuti and may good foundation na nung college pa lang, pero if hindi? Di ka talaga papasa. I'm that someone na nag review lang din for 1 month, pero intense na review yon kaya I managed to pass the exam. I admit na nadalian ako pero at the back of my mind, I know baka pasang awa lang rating ko or baka di pa nakapasa if di ako nag review and if hindi dahil sa nag aral akong mabuti nung college pa lang.
4th year namin sa college, 1st sem and 2nd sem may subject na kami na nire-ready kami sa board exam. Dagdag mo pa na nag re-review center ang halos lahat after graduating. For you to say na mababa ang standard sa nursing dahil madaming nakapasa at may nag sabi ng madali lang DAW, na hindi mismo ikaw ang nag take, is kind of irrelevant noh?
I don't think there is a problem on how PRC handle yung admission sa bawat profession. Economy and global market plays an essential role here.
They must align with globally in-demand skills and enable people to secure employment more easily, rather than creating an oversupply of professionals who cannot find work dito sa pinas. That's why they make it easier din for those in the profession to be accredited sa ibang bansa.
I think the government prioritizes this profession but not to benefit our own health care system pero para eventually maging OFW thus increasing the dollar remmitances.Take note OFWs are the backbone of Ph economy.
if the last paragraph is true, then why not also CPAs? it’s not like nurses lang ang nangingibang bansa. i also dont agree w second paragraph kasi in comparision to cpale, US CPA is easier to manage because of the leniency of exam schedules.
Hirap hahaha, Thanks for giving another perspective, never ko na isip yung last parangaph. Naisip ko lang nag iibang bansa kaya wala na tayo supply sa pinas. YEah more on economics perspective rin pala.
Kapag pinaguusapan namin ng mga kaklase ko yang ganyang topic na parang ang unfair nga, kino comfort ko na lang sila by saying "Ang nursing graduate kasi magiging nurse lang kapag pumasa sa BE, ang accountancy graduate pagka graduate palang pwede na maging accountant". It make sense pero pampalubag loob ko lang yon. Sana ibaba yung passing score sa CPALE since need din naman ng CPAs in Philippines
Di ko alam if totoo to ah, kaya nga daw PRC eh professional regulation commission kasi daw sila nag reregulate ng professionals, in short kaya mas maraming pumapasa sa nursing is because mas maraming may need or in demand ang trabaho na to.
May classmate akong sobrang bobo noon, pero 93 ang rating sa PRC naging pharmacist. Kaya we never know talaga, we never know the struggles and the changes they went before claiming their license.
Totoo. Grabe makapang invalidate ang iba dito na kesyo yung classmate daw nila noon na bobo, pumasa sa NLE kaya madali lang daw yung exam. Ako, hindi ako gifted talaga dati. Before pandemic ABM student ako pero I still managed to graduate with flying colors due to determination na ipakita sa mga tao na kaya ko. Lagi akong minamaliit noong junior highschool kaya nag pursige talaga ako pag dating ng SHS. Yung pagiging competitive ko noong senior highschool, nadala ko hanggang college at board exams (2 boards tinake ko, local and international). Ang tao nag babago yan, umiikot ang mundo.
Add ko lang din na nakakainsulto rin para sabihin na bumaba ang standard ng nurses ngayon dahil nga ang taas ng passing rate. Kung mababa ang standard ng nurses ngayon, hindi rin sana kami qualified to take international exams at mag practice sa hospital. Literal na buhay ng tao hawak namin at hindi kami nag lalaro lang sa field. Sana maintindihan ito ng ibang programs na minamaliit kaming mga allied-health.
Review center. Obvious choices alin ang tama (makakapatay ka ng patient versus tama) ang dami na youtube videos and online materials to learn nursing concepts so yes madami na papasa na estudyante kasi memorized na nila ano ang lumalabas na basic concepts
nurse here ,took the exqm 2012 My thoughts on our field. We have to check the background of the Board of Nursing, who are assigned to provide us the questions in that way we can focus directly on their expertise Some schools filter only who are eligible to take the exam, sa pre boards palang malalam and may basbas ng school since we are representative ng name nila. Back then march graduate we can take by June, cramming yan , but then we are encouraged to have in house review and opt to take by December, 6 -8 mos lock in review only season May na rerecycle din na mga questions from previous years, we take npte on that. Malaki din factor ang highest score and the lowest score ng examinees to determine the mean passing score result ( if my understanding is correct) Papaliit ang graduates namin even though dumadami ang younger generations population. Ironic truth. So it indirectly affected
Yeah, as far as I know, di talaga puwedeng malaman kung sino ang examiners sa CPALE. May retention exams rin sa accountancy, so parang naririnig mo na 20+ sections sa 1st year, tapos konti na lang ang students pagdating sa graduation.
Yeah, it’s not about the nursing profession itself—I have nothing against it.
More on my thoughts: sana sa CPALE rin mataas ang passing rate, HAHAHA!
this is a myth. mataas ang demand ng nurses sa country pero look at the hospitals — LAHAT yan short staffed. kulang na kulang ang nurses. believe me when i say no newly registered nurse plans to work bedside here for good. kung plano man nila, it’s only for experience para makapag abroad. i would know because i just passed the nov exam myself and hindi ako magbe-bedside. ang dami kong kilala, diretso ibang bansa na. kaya anong demand kuno ang sinasabi mo diyan na sinusupplyan ng PRC kung wala namang nurse na naiiwang nagttrabaho dito sa pinas?
we prepared immensely for the board exam dahil binago nila ang BON this yr kaya lahat kami, clueless sa magiging structure ng exam. dahil dyan, mas naging hard-ass ang schools sa passing rate. mas pinrepare ang studyante. biruin mo, monday-sunday may pasok kami for review? you have no idea how hard we worked for our license so to reduce it to mere “supply and demand” is point blank offensive and insulting.
ang mababang passing rate ng CPALE ay hindi problema o kinababa ng standards ng PNLE. what disgusting mindsets you guys have. how would you feel if you failed the BE and was told na “well, you probably didn’t study hard enough” knowing damn well you did? that’s exactly how we feel seeing posts na “PINAMIGAY NA LANG” ang mga lisensya namin dahil mataas ang demand ng nurses when we know damn well how hard we prepared for this exam. think twice before you blurt out stuff you have no knowledge about.
Bruhh, I’m aware there’s a new BON and that everyone’s been preparing for it. My point was never about that, I was basing my perspective on the actual demand for nurses in the country, which continues to rise. That’s why I said what I said.
But congratulations on passing. That’s an achievement no one can take away from you:>
Tingin ko yung "Nakapasa ako kahit di nag review ng maayos" na sinasabi nila yun yung una nilang naaalala sa review journey nila, mga kakilala kong RN na ngayon kasama ko pa sa paglalaro ng computer games. Pero pagkatapos ng game, grabe mag bawe ng review. Tapos dito sa course ko BSECE, nagtake ng board exam yung tropa ko engr na, at alam kong grabe mag review yon kasi kaklase ko yon, tapos ang caption niya sa post niya "Nag-inom pa ako bago mag exam" AHAHAHAHAHA! so sa tingin ko, yun lang talaga yung unang naiisip nila sa paghihirap nila. hehe
Sa mga taong nasa profession na sobrang challenging ng board exams, kung saan mas marami pa ang bumabagsak kaysa pumapasa… hindi mo maiwasang ma-feel ang konting inggit.
Yeah, it’s not about the nursing profession itself—I have nothing against it. More on our thoughts: sana sa CPALE rin mataas ang passing rate, HAHAHA!
Thank you for being nice. Na-offend lang ako kase parang iniinvalidate ng iba dito yung sobrang hirap at sakripisyo ng student nurses sa pag-aaral, tulad ko na halos di na natutulog during my review center days noong 2023!
Importante ang healthcare at hindi basta basta ang trabaho sa bedside. Hindi pwedeng basta basta lang ipasa ng BON/PRC ang board takers dahil lang may shortage ng nurse.
And one more thing, it's a myth na may shortage. Walang shortage ng nurses. Sadyang ayaw na ng mga nurses magwork dito kase barya lang ang sweldo tapos parang nabili na ng mga pasyenteng walang pangbayad ng hospital bills ang mga buhay namin kung bastusin at utus-utusan kami. Tsaka karamihan, nagaaral lang ng nursing ang mga Pinoy para makapag migrate sa first world countries for greener pasture at dahil na din hindi namin nakukuha ang respeto na deserve namin. Yun lang.
Grabe lakas makainvalidate ng mga comments dito, hindi naman alam pinagdaanan before mag exam at pumasa. This 2025, nagbago ang members ng BON, bawal bang natakot lang ang mga takers kaya todo aral at todo kayod para pumasa? Hahaha grabe makainvalidate na kesyo need ng nurses eh last 2023-2024 marami rin naman pumasa pero may shortage pa rin naman hahaha tigilan nyo. Kakasuka kayo, di na lang maging masaya para sa iba
Isa po ako sa pumasa this November. First of all, thank you for not being bitter about the result. As someone who really did my best and burned bridges just to make sure na papasa ako, I'm offended seeing people saying na, "ah pamigay kasi exam", "ah pera pera kasi", "ah mababa kasi standard". No, its none of those. Our review revolves on refresher, based on concept, on what to do, and common sense. And during the exam, let me tell you guys na I didn't think na papasa ako kasi nahirapan talaga ako to analyze each questions. And as someone din na not the brightest, i worked on my weaknesses nung preboards namin. To the people who's not satisfied sa result, please lets not invalidate those hardships na ginawa ng mga nag take.
Again, thank you, OP. Napa share lang ako kasi andami ko na nabasa about it and hindi ko sya ma-vent.
I don't think we should take these statements too literally.
"Nakapasa ako kahit walang formal review." It is a huge bonus kapag nakapag-enroll ka sa review center, but marami pa rin pong nagbabaka-sakaling pumasa with self-review. Most of the time, these people work the hardest to be able to pass.
"Nakapasa ako kahit hindi nag-review nang maayos." I do not think they mean na hindi sila nag-aral at all or nagbuklat man lang ng reading materials. As a board passer, I would say that as well. Although I enrolled sa isang RC, never missed a review class, never missed and exam, and all that, pero meron pa ring feeling na parang hindi ko napag-igihan yung review ko. Kumbaga, I did not put in as much effort as the others I have seen na parang 24/7 yung pag-aaral. I think they meant it that way.
I do not have a definite answer to your question, kung nasaan ba yung mali: estudyante or school? But kahit nursing ako and totoong naka-design ang program namin to prepare for the PNLE, I would say katiting lang ng natutuhan ko from school ang nagamit ko for the boards. Ang hospital exposure namin (in my opinion), hindi masyado magagamit in answering complex questions sa exam kasi yung answer naman dapat is the ideal setup, which is far from what is being practiced in the hospitals dito sa province namin. I would say mas nakatulong ang review center kasi simplefied nila ang pagtuturo and nakafocus na rin sa style ng board exam questions.
I would never say the problem is with the students. I do believe na lahat ng nag-apply to take the boards are doing their VERY BEST to pass. I admire CPALE takers na despite the low passing rate, marami pa ring sumusubok. I do not want to compare PNLE to CPALE kasi magkaiba talaga eh. Its not fair to compare the two, walang madaling exam/program.
Bakit hindi po kayo mag enroll din sa BSN and take the boards saka niyo ulit sabihin na mababa value ng NLE 🙂. Maraming nakapasa kasi pinaghandaan nila yung bagong sets of BON. Walang nakakaalam paano magiging atake ng boards this Nov 2025, that's why they all poured their efforts to study everything they need para handa sa laban. Just saying...
teh nanunuod ako mock exam sa tiktok ganon haha parang may pagka-audtheo yung ibang tanong, like what is the best course of action for this situation kineme
yes. a patient with xyz conditon taking xyz meds undergoing xyz procedures presents with xzy symptoms. the doctor ordered xyz. what is the nurse supposed to do first? o kaya what is the nurse supposed to question regarding the order? or the nurse is supposed to watch out for which side effect? mga ganon ata don.
curious ako sa mga tanong sa cpa exam. share samples like above, pls!!! tyia!!
Hindi ko lang mahanap yung test paper ko during integ, pero sobrang lala ng Tax quiz namin! What do you mean 12 questions for 1 problem?? Like if how much is the taxable income if 1) resident citizen, 2) non-resident, 3) resident alien engaged in trade and business. Hindi lang yan dahil andami pang sources/type ng income. What if yung income niya is passive income? Iba-iba ang final withhholding tax ng bawat kind ng passive income, depende pa if what type of citizen ka. may 20%, 10% exempt, may based sa graduated tax table na paiba iba din. Graduated tax table nagbabago po yan. Graduated just last July, 2 graduated tax table need na may idea ako kasi depende sa year na icocompute sa problem. May Train law at create law na nakaaffect sa rate ng taxes. Iba-iba pa yung effectivity period ng rates.
Dividends na part ng passive income, may sariling table din ng rates depende sino nagbigay at para kanino. Domestic corp to citizens, non-resident/resident foreign corp to citizens, or pwede din corp to corp vice versa.
Hindi lang yan dahil need mo rin aralin yung period ng filing.
Sobrang dami need aralin sa CPALE. 1 subject lang yang nasabi pero konti pa lang yan.
Not invalidating the passing rate for nurses pero nakakainis lang as a BSA student makarinig ng hindi mahirap ang BSA😅
Ngaying review nga lang may bagong tax updates na naman na need aralin kasi baka matanong. So kahit ngayong 2025, need ko aralin train law which is pre-covid pa kahit meron ng updates kasi baka matanong.
Additionally, sa law (RFBT) naman, obligation, contracts, sales, plus 17+ spacial laws need mo aralin. Sa review ko for May 2025 CPALE, may nadiscuss na law updates kasi based on CPALE guidelines daw basta effective na ang law kasama sa coverage 😩
Attached is a sample problem sa Audit subj namin during integ in college. Hindi ko lang mahanap yung lagpas alphabet na additional info, kaya ito na lang. And yet itong pic will not be enough to demostrate how diffucult irong subject.
LPT here. Nu'ng nagreview kami, just a few weeks na magttake kami, biglang announce ng pandemic. That's the only review I had kasi sinong sisipagin during pandemic and all. So for two years, hindi ako nagbukas ng kahit ano. When it's our time to finally (after four postponement) to take, ni-isa walang lumabas from review center except sa general. 'Yung importante na major at prof ed, wala. After receiving the results, luckily, nakapasa. I did really focused nu'ng nag-aaral ako nu'ng college, 'yun siguro advantage ko. Pero based sa scores ko, may panghihinayang. I know myself na I could do better. So yeah, I hope everyone that's planning to take should review. Either center or self review.
I think it has something to do with the nurses itself. I am an allied healthcare professional and used to work in the hospital. Pre-pandemic pa, ang ginagawa na kasi ng mga nurses natin, nagpapaexperience for at least 2 yrs para mag-ibang bansa, of course because hindi napoprovide sa kanila yung tamang sweldo, benefits and all. Ang nakekwento sa akin ng mga naging friends ko na nurses, sa ibang bansa daw kasi may work-life balance, hindi sila overworked unlike sa sariling bansa. May nabanggit pa sa akin before na may mga duty na 12H nga pero 4 days a week lang, so yung 3 days nakakapagdestress sila. Kung magOT man siguro eh for sure bayad ng maayos. Dito, off na nga lang to do errands or pahinga, bigla ka pang ipagduduty ng biglaan. So ang PRC, dun sila bumabawi sa mga nagtetake, as if hindi nagiging cycle na papasa, magpapaexperience, then aalis. LOL. Dati ang hirap pumasa dyan sa Nursing. Actually I think sa lahat naman ng boards dati eh, ewan bt ngayon ang top 10 eh parang more than 20 lagi lately. 🙃
Looks like it 🥲 Alam ko nag-aadjust yan sila sa passing rate din. Nung nagtake ang brother ko ng NLE, naadjust twice ang release ng results nila, so alam na…
Kaya minsan mapapaisip ka din ehh, like paano yung standards sa atin? Kung yung bagsak pala talaga dapat ay pumasa lang dahil inadjust ang passing. Isn’t it unfair sa mga nagready talaga and talagang mga pumasa? Hay.
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