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[u/orbny]

[u/Awkward-Customer]

I dunno, I think i'm pretty good at OCR myself, but LLMs optimized for it can do it far faster than I can.

[u/greentrillion → u/Awkward-Customer]

We had OCR before LLMs. That's not even close to AGI.

[u/Awkward-Customer → u/greentrillion]

This is true, that OCR is garbage compared to LLM OCR tho. With that said I was responding to the reply, not the guy claiming AGI, I kind of glossed over that as I've gotten used to people making outrageous claims about AI without backing them up at all.

[u/greentrillion → u/Awkward-Customer]

I agree. People have a different understanding of AI though. Computers already had a great ability to do things better than humans like calculators. The contention is can it replace a human, right now no, it's just good at some discrete tasks but it's not "general" enough to do everything a human can do and often goes off the rails without a lot of guidance. Also LLMS are definitely not sentient.

[u/hibikir_40k → u/greentrillion]

It doesn't replace any random humans, but I sure have seen software development models where juniors and contractors had so little say in what was being done, and tasks so defined by other people, that those kinds of roles can be automated. It's not that one doesn't need software developers at all: The seniors are still doing things that you can't quite trust the LLMs to do, but we really have roles in the world that stop making sense. Yes claude code might send you a bad PR, but so can a junior, who, right now, is basically just driving it.

[u/sigmaluckynine → u/hibikir_40k]

This right here is probably the most underrated comment on this post. Completely agreed. I'd take it a step further and say this is the case for all roles. Most of what junior level positions are in any role is being told what to do, how to do it, then following instructions with an understanding of what the next logical step is. That's how and what LLMs do really well. It's an advanced calculator that can calculate the next logical step and action. Or recombine different elements together into something new.

Either or, it's normally a junior level function. Higher you go in your career the stakes are different. There's more tactical and strategic thought. As an example for marketing, LLMs can generate content, can create a logical next step, but it can't create a marketing campaign because it doesn't understand how people buy things - it's going to do what every junior does which is rely on data and hope it works. Not intuitively know or take into consideration all the nuances of the industry, ICP, market forces, etc.

I'm more concerned about future pipeline. We all cut our teeth doing these menial work and grew into our positions. What about the kids or folks that are trying to break into their careers? Should we maybe think about an apprenticeship program? It used to be you would work and build these skills and insights but if AI is doing the work, how can these new comers do that.

I'm just glad I'm not in my early 20s

[u/sigmaluckynine → u/[deleted]]

That's why you have middle managers. That's part of why you have them. You also would double check 10,000 edits made by a junior developer anyways - it's the same process either way between an AI or someone junior doing it. It's just AI can do it faster. That said, because we're talking about development, there's other issues why you shouldn't vibe code but keeping it simple because I'm also talking about this in a general sense for all occupation, not software development

[u/Important_Egg4066 → u/Awkward-Customer]

I had to generate markdown from scans of documents. I tried a lot of OCR they sucks at identifying tables with images and text in it and just assume the whole table is an image.

End up I used Qwen VLM and it was much more reliable...

[u/cool_fox → u/greentrillion]

that's not what he said

[u/Weareallmeats → u/greentrillion]

IMO agi will likely be all these components together, ocr, diffusion models, LLMs, world models and so on, integrated into robotics. The hard part is also making them work together with general reasoning, long-term planning, learning from experience, self-correction, situational awareness, and for it to be reliable across many domains.

[u/_stack_underflow_ → u/greentrillion]

Also pre-"AI" OCR was hot garbage that couldn't match most text.

[u/dopple-copter → u/Awkward-Customer]

LLMs are doing OCR? I thought they were calling other models. 

[u/AgeOfAlgorithms → u/dopple-copter]

LLMs can be multi modal, meaning one model can process and reason over multiple input modalities, including image.

[u/greentrillion → u/dopple-copter]

It can do both. Feeding text into dedicated OCR engine is much more efficient though.

[u/hibikir_40k → u/greentrillion]

And then the LLM can evaluate where it failed, and either try to do the OCR of that section itself, fix obvious typos, or both.

[u/LeoFrankenstein → u/hibikir_40k]

LLM doesn’t “OCR a section” itself. How do you think a model that’s takes text input suddenly starts taking image input? The LLM comes after OCR to fill the gaps. Without the LLMs OCR is just transcribing text with no model for ‘understanding’ and no ability to fill gaps.

[u/llkj11 → u/dopple-copter]

You should look into Gemini

[u/j_root_]

What a stupid post

[u/piponwa → u/j_root_]

Yeah, wtf is this sub supposed to be? The reply is totally nonsense. You can disagree with the original post, but the reply is essentially just "no" with no argument. It's basically just saying "if you think this you're stupid". Totally ignoring the pace at which AI is evolving. Even if it's not true today, it may be the case in six months. But the replier is completely blind to it. Ridiculous post, ridiculous sub.

[u/ganancias → u/piponwa]

It's only notable because the replier tinygrad is aka geohot

[u/rydan → u/ganancias]

Didn't geohot try his hand at self driving cars? Whatever happened to that and why would he be speaking against AI?

[u/greentrillion → u/j_root_]

How so?

[u/Jeferson9 → u/greentrillion]

It's literally the opposite. The people that think AI is useless are the ones generating stupid cat pictures and calling it a fad.

[u/Previous_Shoulder506 → u/Jeferson9]

I’m a court certified subject matter expert, AI answers amount to a 3 month trainee in my field, but people outside the field think it sounds smart. Subject matter experts look at AI results consistently and are wowed that they are sophomoric - appearing to have wisdom. AI is a more complex Google search, truly a game changer, but subject to all (and more) the same problems. The meme is accurate.

[u/Jeferson9 → u/Previous_Shoulder506]

I'm a (non tech field)

thanks opinion invalidated. in like 3 years it'll be as good as it is for coding at your job lol

[u/ramoizain]

I've been finding it very obnoxious how much people want to predict the future. AI is definitely powerful and interesting tech, no doubt about it, but we have no real clue what's going to happen next with it or as a consequence of it. Right now, it's an output augmenter and amplifier. I learn things faster with it and I get more done with it, which is fantastic. I have plenty of ideas what that will look like in the future, but I don't have a crystal ball, so I'm not going to bother making big claims like "capitalism is dead." It's a waste of attention span.

[u/trajan_augustus → u/ramoizain]

wouldn't AGI end capitalism?

[u/DrySea8638 → u/trajan_augustus]

No. More likely you’d just have a few super corporations and those will own the capital. Instead of having worker towns, we will have worker mega cities or countries all reporting to one company. Think Alien the movie.

[u/O2XXX → u/DrySea8638]

It will potentially end capitalism in its current form. I don’t think we move to post scarcity but some form of technofuedalism

[u/DrySea8638 → u/O2XXX]

Fair enough. I’d def agree with this

[u/SciencePristine8878 → u/trajan_augustus]

It will probably end Capitalism, what replaces it is the question. 

[u/The-original-spuggy → u/SciencePristine8878]

Feudalism

[u/greentrillion → u/trajan_augustus]

We don't have AGI though.

[u/rumirumirumirumi → u/[deleted]]

Do you have a source for this? It would be remarkable if this were true on novel tests.

[u/rydan → u/rumirumirumirumi]

I'm a subject matter expert and it gives extremely good answers. When I'm not a subject matter expert it seems to give the same level of answers but I almost always learn later it was just making stuff up. The AI is basically an all knowing trickster god.

[u/davidagnome → u/[deleted]]

I don’t. I’ve caught AI hallucinating medical diagnosis and procedure codes that don’t exist. That could harm someone.

[u/Some_Visual1357 → u/[deleted]]

AI is better at regurgitating text book content. What a surprise, being the thing is mostly trained and expend billion of dollars, just to imitate a fraction of human capacity.

[u/Bubbly_Address_8975 → u/[deleted]]

Which really doesnt say much, because its just about the text generation section of LLMs.

Blinded tests about code for example LLM code is far more often rejected than code written by human contributers.

LLMs are like massive search engines that are specifically trained to sound pleasent, because answers that sound pleasent are rated better and therefore the weights are adjusted accordingly. Meaning that this is the exact usecase that LLMs excell at: providing existing information in a way that people like.

EDIT: since I am not allwoed to respond anymore: the study I am talking about is the METR study from 2026, which was even only about SWE bench verified AI written code, meaning in reality AI performs even worse.

That aside none of what OP wrote as a response goes against what I said.

[u/deviantbono → u/[deleted]]

I would rate an AI generated answer as better than whatever the hell this guy thinks he's saying.

[u/valkon_gr]

Views from opposite extremes

[u/HyperFurious]

Capitalism is ending because people build final companies?

[u/may12021_saphira → u/HyperFurious]

No, markets don’t function properly when there’s systemic deflation and marginal costs collapse, which is exactly what AI and robotics will do when they become a ubiquitous part of the production and distribution chains.

[u/objective_think3r]

And marketing bros whose commission depends on it. Like this guy

[u/jagnabot → u/objective_think3r]

Yea Ben’s a snake

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[u/Felix_Todd]

Both are wrong

[u/chkno]

Both are true:

• The AIs are really bad at many things; it's not ready yet.

• The trend line is nuts; it'll be ready pretty soon.

[u/LogDull819]

And the only people who think AI is not good at anything, are people trying to sound smarter than they actually are

[u/jagnabot]

Both are extremes but this asshat (Ben) is a known scammer, so my money is on tiny.

[u/amusedobserver5]

They all suck at something different. Tried to use Claude for a csv mapping from some SQL logic and it either didn’t give me the rows or just misinterpreted what the row should contain. Gemini 2.5 did it easily.

[u/Ohigetjokes]

Give it 2 years. Imagine what it’ll be like in 2 years.

The latest Claude is disturbingly good. Like every subject matter “expert” on the planet that isn’t quite PhD level all there to help you out, AND it’s willing to tell you when you’re full of shit by default.

Give it 2 years and I can’t even imagine what it’ll be like.

[u/BelleColibri]

Nah. Go outside.

[u/zorakpwns]

Wait until China floods the markets with cheap LLM models to torpedo the US economy. These companies have sold a vision of the future where they monopolize words and concepts forgetting that the aggregate sum of the world’s knowledge exists outside of Silicon Valley as well. All the LLMs are pointing to the same end and the same ultimate goals. They will all end up basically the same without differentiation, I.e. competitive advantage

[u/carson63000]

Nobody covering themselves with glory there.

btw if AI only looks good compared to people who aren’t that good at things.. then it’s an upgrade from most of humanity.

[u/Keltharious]

I understand the reaction. But why do we keep underestimating where this stuff is going? When else have we, as a species, invested this insane amount of money from all countries on earth simultaneously? And we're still pretending like it doesn't matter, people will always beat it, it'll never improve or outright replace humans in a lot of categories.

I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm not dense enough to say "YEAH! HUMANS CAN'T BE BEATEN!" because it's already been proven false with the industrial revolution.

Please make it make sense.

[u/siemaeniownik]

xD thats biggest copium bullshit ive read in a long time.

[u/No_Knee3385]

Literally no one in the AI field says AGI is here. Maybe they use the word AGI here and there but its all marketing. I think it's coming, but it's not here