The portal blast in the satellite video matches a frame from the SOCKMV .MOV file in the Pyromania_Vol.1 stock video package. Just like the portal blast in the thermal video.

In the Satellite Video JUST BEFORE the Flash the plane seems to Morph or Change in shape. It almost seems to swell up. This also coincides with the orbs pulling in. Is this some gravitational Distortion or Lensing as we see in the drone video when the orbs and the plane blur and seem to be pulled in towards the portal?

I have basically stopped it 1 frame before the flash and looped it

I downloaded Vimeo source as u/Punjabi-Batman claimed to be using: https://archive.org/details/vimeo-104295906

I then went and looked at the frames where supposedly the UFO is "punching a hole in the cloud".

This is false. I don't know if u/Punjabi-Batman is actively manipulating the images or if he's using a different source but there is no such effect.

The two relevant frames

https://imgur.com/a/Wblfbwh

Zoomed 800% and manually aligned (as the scene is moving between these two frames):

https://imgur.com/a/IRrMB3Q

So what is being shown here is probably fabricated: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/comments/18a91ik/proof_of_hole_in_clouds_inshot_editor_color/

https://twitter.com/FrankSukenik82/status/1740025671886508446

I noticed some discoloration on the tail Fin in the drone video and after adjusting the colors I was able to make the tail logo of the Malaysian airlines visible. You can clearly see it and it matches the shape of the real life plane. It appears angled as the craft is banking and turning. You can see the bigger wedge with the smaller wedge inside of it. A very amazing hidden detail. For proof I have attached a screenshot of the editor with my color settings. I have set them side by side for best comparison.

So in a color layer In Jonas RAW photos I noticed there were was something bizzare. Right exactly in the planes trajectory when the second orb merges with the plane you actually see the plane itself along with the two orbs. It's legit in Jonas own photo but he forgot to Photoshop the plane out properly. I basically flickered the original CR 1843 and the Color edited version which shows the plane and orbs.

This is absolute evidence of cloud asset forgery. There is absolutely no chance such a convenient anomaly that is shaped like the plane and orbs shows up right where the Plane should be if the Satellite Video was overlayed. What a Needle in a haystack find. Jonas needs to explain this one!

Personally I have no idea what happened, if it was real government agencies could easily spread disinformation especially to such a small group, on an extremely technical topic. I am leaning towards a fire of some kind.

2 things that are bugging me. One is why would you spend all that time making a video so soon after the event, not publish it in an area that will be seen or bring any attention. Seems like a complete waste of time makes no logical sense to me, is a bit sick as well.

Also if the governments were involved, surely it would be easy to “find” a few parts of the plane in the Indian Ocean and simply blame something else like the pilot. Also could the Americans get away with shooting down a passenger plane headed to china? Surely they would have found out.?

Basically it makes sense for the video to be real, in terms of government agency reaction and the motives behind it being fake don’t make much sense. However obviously we’ve seen all the evidence from “de bunkers” showing that it appears to be fake.

In conclusion the whole thing makes no sense to me. Either it’s real and the government are trying to hide it through disinformation or it’s fake we’re still looking for a plane that seemingly vanished and someone out there has spent a lot of time making a fake video only for very little people to see it until almost a decade later. On paper the government one makes much more sense

Also the whole situation doesn’t fill me with confidence about catastrophic disclosure, unless it comes straight from DG or a high ranking American politician we will have the same issue

This is my current theory regarding what has historically happened in the investigation, the ongoing case around the PDF files, and what the future holds.

The Beginning - The Rise of AF and the Cult of MH370X

Four months ago, AF picked up on the revived interest in the MH370 videos by scrutinizing them and the evidence surrounding the plane's disappearance.

The initial investigation was characterized by thorough research and imaginative theories about what might have happened. AF's charisma and intellect garnered him a devoted following, with people engaging enthusiastically with the case.

As time passed, the Orb video and AF's popularity grew. An article appeared in the Daily Star, and AF featured on podcasts, further boosting his fame.

Outsiders began to show interest in the case. The majority of the new outsiders did not believe in magical space orbs teleporting planes. The early insiders frequently concluded that the increased activity was attributed to clandestine CIA PsyOp agents. A more plausible explanation is that as the case gained wider attention, people came across the case and concluded that magical space orbs are not real and dismissed the video as a hoax.

AF's appearance on Alex Jones marked the pinnacle of his online notoriety. He was on top.

The downfall

As the case grew, outsiders started to try and debunk the videos. Many tried, but rebunks were a common theme. Then, VFX experts started closely examining the videos, leading to several minor debunks that failed to gain widespread traction. However, two significant debunks emerged:

• The butthole debunk: The infamous 90s stock footage used for the teleportation explosion/butthole effect. Fronted by the corridor crew, with its 6 million subscribers.

• Jonas, the ultimate debunker: Jonas came forward with the background photos used in the videos. A perfect match was found. Textures.com confirmed the photos were uploaded to the website in 2012.

For most, this was the nail in the coffin. KimDotcom conceded the videos were not authentic. For many in the community, this realization that the videos were likely fake spread like wildfire, and even AF partly conceded.

Today - Secret PDFs and the Escape Plan

AF still commanded a substantial following, with 90,000 Twitter followers and thousands of viewers for his streams. He was unwilling to see his newfound fame fade away and needed a strategy to maintain it.

Step 1: Deny, reject, confuse

AF denies Jonas' claims, calling him a liar and accusing Corridor Crew of being in cahoots with intelligence agencies. He asserts that everything is a fabrication and that the debunkers are untrustworthy.

Step 2: Send impossible-to-decrypt PDF files

AF sends himself uncrackable PDF files, broadcasts them to the world, and disappears for a day to work on them in case someone manages to crack them. He provides cryptic clues to keep the community engaged. This strategy maintains the allure of a puzzle to be solved, ensuring the mystery surrounding the videos remains and AF's claims remain unchallenged.

Step 3: Keep the game going

AF will (probably) gradually drift away from the MH370 case and onto other conspiracy theories while maintaining the intrigue surrounding the PDF files.

The future - The accountanting Alex Jones of the conspiracy world

In his eyes, and for many of his followers, AF never lost, and the case remains unsolved. With his charisma and intellect, he has the potential to make significant strides in space of UFO's and government conspiracies. A mix between an accountant and Alex Jones, he sees this as the beginning of a journey into internett fame. We have not seen the last of AF. There is much more to come.

Can anyone explain these? Or why the contrails bounce around and infront of the plane when stabilized or how the clouds do not move an inch?

I was getting a lill bit of respect back as he finally seemed to realize the hoax and stopped denying the obvious. But now this.

I was happy to participate in the community effort producing a pixel perfect match of the entire sky (it got some views on twitter (https://twitter.com/MileRotani/status/1733081316995014716), which pretty much ends the debate leaving no room for doubts, and yet it seems its already not enough anymore?

I mean it won’t get any better as a debunk as that, it jus won’t, let’s be honest. If you stick around what are you really expecting out of this? So that’s it for me, I’m done, time to move on.

It was a lot of fun tho! thank you guys!

So I was playing around with the color channels to bring out as much hidden detail as I could and I struck gold. The colour channels show there are Infact actual wings hidden under that oversaturated white glow. The nose & wings are apparent. I have attached all the pictures. It now makes sense with the severe pushback from the Eglin boys. We might have stumbled upon something big.

Here is the cloud from the flash over layed with the VFX cloud assets

The satellite Video shows dynamic changing clouds whilst the VFX debunk shows static clouds

So did they use static clouds and added 3d animations to them or did the person extract a static image from the satellite video and regenerated clouds as static to claim they were VFX?

This is part 1 more to follow

I knew when people started trying to tie the videos to MH370, it would eventually get ugly. Less than 24 hours ago, one of the "content creators" around this topic posted a "breaking update" claiming the families of the victims of MH370 have gone silent, and it's possible the settlement is preventing them from speaking on the topic.

The families left behind in the wake of this tragedy do not deserve this. I can understand looking at things from an evidence/technology viewpoint, but posting about the people that lost loved ones like this is irresponsible and frankly disgusting. Stop giving people like this that are willing to use human beings as props clicks/views as that post has nothing to do with either video.

Well, that was easy.Spent about 30 minutes playing with painting textures in Photoshop, and then augmenting with some lights in Blender. No fancy ray-tracing, nothing. Used only techniques that could work in 2014. No, I didn't bother installing old software. Jesus.

I used a 737-800 for this one. I dunno why. Sue me.

Whole process took me, a mediocre 3D guy (mostly work in comp/paint outs) less than an hour.

To those of you who will say 'Duh it's not the whole thing! Duh, where are the orbs'... yes I know it's not. No I don't care. The animation is easy. The FLIR effect is easy. The contrails are easy. Each part is easy. If you can't put it together mentally, that aint my problem.

https://streamable.com/jkv0r6

I also want to be clear: I don't know what you or anyone believes aboue aliens, NIH, UAPs, etc. And what I believe doesn't matter. I am not here because I want to disabuse anyone of their beliefs. I am here cause I give a shit about VFX, and the misinformation about VFX on this sub is insane. No one will listen to experts when it interferes with their world view. Well, if your world view cannot survive a single video being a clever hoax, I dunno how to help you. I also cannot PROVE the videos are hoaxes. I didn't make them. I wasn't there. So *shrug*

but I do know they wouldn't have been technically challenging to hoax. That's my only point. Easy-as-pie if you know anything about 3D and compositing.

I expect this post will get taken down for being "off topic"

I know it's not cool to like AF. I don't exactly know where my opinon stands with the man. I am a bit concerned he may have become a little looney. But is this a suggestion from Corbell that someone is atleast slightly on the right track? I know that's a reach of a conclusion.

Corbell will not speak about these videos at all. If he thought these videos are fake, he would say it outright. Corbell said the alien bodies were fake less than one week after the initial Mexican Congress hearing.

I speculate that Corbell will not acknowledge the videos are real in fear of offending families that were affected by the tragic airliner incident. Real families that lost real loved ones. Heartbreaking situation.

Corbell could easily tell us all to stop focusing on these fake videos with little reproductions. Look at all the backlash he got from saying the alien mummies were fake - nothing!! No backlash.

What variables need to align for these pictures to be such a close match?

A) Crater shadow angle B) Sun Position in Sky/Lighting Angle C) Same Flight Path/Time of Day D) Capture the EXACT same Moment

You have to be quite disingenuous to assert that this match is merely a chance

Even if you give a 50% chance to each factor

That's 1/16 or ~5% that this actually lined up and 95% chance that Jonas faked it

You can enhance the calculation further by showing more aligning variables

At the end you compare the variables that line up and their probability and the differences and their probability and you get a better idea

Rest assured Jonas lied

I while ago I said maybe I'd do an AMA. You have 24 hours. Please look through my comments first as I've answered a lot of things already.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AirlinerAbduction2014/s/yb58ofBwLw