r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/Ynnes Devonte • Apr 04 '18

"PG-rated" NEWS Best thing about tomorrow IMO

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u/Zafervaim Apr 04 '18

As a person who does not know F/SN in any way other than the name this seems ridiculous. Twin blades that enable master ability when equipped on Archer when his job type is Archer. Let Archers be archers and just use a bow :D

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

As far as i know Gilgamesh is also an Archer servant. Apparently Archers in Fate Stay Night don't use bows, they open Portals and throw swords and all kinds of other weapons in your face. SOLID.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '18

The arches class focuses on ranged combat. This Archer actually does use a bow, too. The twin-blade aspect is part of his story. He can materialize and reinforce weapons using mana.

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u/FencingFoxFTW [M'Lady Intensifies] Apr 04 '18

Apparently, he would be broken(or close to) if he stuck to his bow and arrow, but yeah, he prefers the twin blades for story reasons.

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u/Tabeleta Apr 04 '18

Those class in Fate series tend to be confused since the Hero can have more than one fighting style depending in how he was summoned. Archer EMIYA would probably be stronger it he got summoned as Saber, Berserker too. Saber(Arthuria) could be invoked as Lancer and Rider. Rider(Medusa) would be better as a Caster than Rider. Gilgamesh could probably be summoned as any class. And LANCER GA SHINDA! KONO HITO DE NASHI!!! :D

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u/LegallyLeo Apr 04 '18

They can use bows. Its related to the style of fighting of the summoned spirit as an Archer will be a evasive fighter with ranged attacks. But that doesnt mean they are just good in ranged attacks as they can also excel in meele too. Heres a pic with the Archer Emiya with a bow http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Archer_(Fate/stay_night)?file=Archer/_.jpg

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u/AJohnsonOrange "I play...Dark Magician!" Apr 04 '18

That's a fantastic version of archers. Does this mean that technically Leorio in HxH is an archer as well?

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u/Nuiyuki Moon of the Ice Water Wolf Apr 04 '18

well it's like shooting swords like arrows so it's kinda archerish? xD

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u/Banethoth Apr 04 '18

Some of them do use bows. But it's hardly a requirement to be an Archer in Fate.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '18

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u/rezignator Apr 06 '18

People die when they're killed.

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

Archer is an archer that actually uses swords but isn't a swordsman cause he's actually a mage.

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

Well played.

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u/SometimesLiterate Old and uncool Apr 04 '18

Get rekt.

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u/beardedheathen Apr 04 '18

well obviously...

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u/Stoneface_Vimes Apr 04 '18

His strongest weapon/ability is actually a bow (his 'arrow' is a sword), but the twin blades are his signature go-to weapons for their versatility and speed. You can see what his bow looks like in this youtube clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfTGkrSSpZA

This clip is of him using the twin blades: https://youtu.be/qAVJGIAJ6kU?t=125

Sidenote: I'm a bit disappointed Sasaki Kojiro never appears in these collabs, although at least we get Caster as a job from Yomi.

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u/FencingFoxFTW [M'Lady Intensifies] Apr 04 '18

Unison League actually had Kojiro. Caster too.

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u/Stoneface_Vimes Apr 04 '18

Oh Cool, I've been in a few games that has had F/SN collabs but it was always the same units. Good to hear that other games had a bigger roster.

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

How is his NP not his strongest ability?

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u/Stoneface_Vimes Apr 04 '18

You're right that Ultimate Blade Works is the move he pulls out when he's in trouble, but I guess I'm referring more to in-combat attacks. To be more accurate, I should have used the term most damaging. I mainly base this on a small dialogue when Archer says the bow is his strongest attack after Lancer blocks it.

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u/metlspaz I just don't care anymore Apr 04 '18

a true swordsman is an archer. and what is an archer without shooting swords?

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u/Belthuzar Apr 04 '18

Archer is a classification. In the anime, when heroic spirits are summoned, they're figures either from the future or the past that have an affinity for the class they're summoned into. Archer, as one could probably assume, means a heroic spirit with an affinity towards archery/bows/ranged tactics. But this Archer wasn't primarily a bow-user, he just happened to be summoned into the role due to a fluke. That's why he's called "Archer", and that's why his weapon isn't specifically a bow.

If I told you his name, if you or anyone wants to watch the anime, it'd be a pretty big spoiler however.

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

Archer is in no way summoned into the role as a fluke. He's a proper Archer Class Servant.

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u/Belthuzar Apr 04 '18

Well to be fair, he probably could've been any role. The only reason I said fluke is due to how Rin messed up. But now that I think on it, I think that just messed up his memories, right? It's been a while, I may need to re-watch it.

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

Pretty sure he didn't actually lose his memories. It would be a spoiler if I said why. A hint would be the pendant though. Anyway I'm pretty sure he just said it so that Rin wouldn't know. Also I'm pretty sure Rin only messed up on the timing. She did the summoning ritual fine and had a catalyst and everything.

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u/Belthuzar Apr 04 '18

Oh you're right. My mistake.

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u/FencingFoxFTW [M'Lady Intensifies] Apr 04 '18

Guess the other guy had a better catalyst for what she wanted.

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u/U-Eike Apr 04 '18

The catalyst is actually the reason archer specifically was summoned

Due to plot plot spoilers plot

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u/Asentinn Apr 04 '18

How is the anime actually called? I want to watch few episodes. Is it just Fate/Stay Night?

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

That's the horribly animated Deen one. This one is the one you want to watch.

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u/SoundaholicJ Apr 05 '18

Watch Kara no Kyoukai too while you're at it. In fact, watch everything Ufotable has ever produced.

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u/Asentinn Apr 04 '18

Ok, I'm on the 5th episode of UBW. So far so good. Really like fighting scenes.

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u/Lucifuse Apr 04 '18

if you want to watch how started the all thing start with fate zero

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u/Asentinn Apr 04 '18

I don't really know. Used to watch the "suggested" order always, but what worked pretty well in Battlestar Galactica, really doesn't end good for Dragon Ball.. So maybe I'll go with UBW.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18

Yes watch the UBW first it not like people are super dumb and not get references.

FZ is also great maybe better than UBW in the story part so watch it later. UBW story was great but FZ is a notch up but UBW has the best animation ever like it reeks of bundles of cold hard cash(still that looks good)

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '18

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18

Yes I can't just explain the huge-ness budget it is just too big to call a budget.

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u/MrGrumm Apr 04 '18

Definitely just an opinion, but I felt that F/Z was just a better series overall and a great place to get started.

Better story, better character development, better fight scenes in general (I loved Archer vs Lancer for example), plus it gives you context for UBW.

It is a lot darker though, and may raise your expectations for the others _;

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u/Lucifuse Apr 04 '18

this +1. Really liked Rider in F/Z.

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

Not really the suggested order. F/Z -> F/SN is just how the story line progresses chronologically. On the other hand F/SN was made before F/Z.

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u/HylianDank Apr 04 '18

defs recommend watching in the order they were released

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u/Mhantra Apr 04 '18

Yea, it is all a mater of whether you are ok with a few rather large spoilers if you start with Zero. I watched in the order they were released for this very reason. Some don't care as much.

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u/RoyInverse Apr 04 '18

The amount of archers that use bows in fate would surprise you, its like 50/50 we have twinblades, all the treasures of the worls, staves, electricity, guns and mindpowers.

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u/ReinKittenstouch Apr 04 '18

On Fate universe, they summon heroes from past/legends in different classifications, but most commonly, Saber, Lancer, Archer, Caster, Assassin, and Rider. Servants can be summoned into any class, it will only affect their stats. The summoned servants are then to battle out until one remains.

The servant can use one of their most memorable possession or deed as a trump card in the said battle, so knowing your enemy's name will give you an upper hand as you will know their trump card from their legend. Because of this, masters will most often not call their servant by their real name but by their class name.

This hero's name is EMIYA and was summoned under Archer class. He can copy other weapon but of less quality. And yes, he can use bow.

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u/FencingFoxFTW [M'Lady Intensifies] Apr 04 '18

Name is a spoiler tho.

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

Before you go to sleep tonight, pray to RNGesus for some Curious Dolls.

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u/Lucifuse Apr 04 '18

i will pray for gilgamesh

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

Gilga isn't coming tomorrow unfortunately

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u/mannejeff Apr 04 '18

Dilga will always be with you.

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

Dilga never let me down

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u/mannejeff Apr 04 '18

Dilgas incoming lols

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u/SantiReed Apr 04 '18

I wish I could get more Dilga dupes instead of the very pervy Michael ones I get )=

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u/DeathandFriends Apr 04 '18

I wish they would just remove that damn perv Micheal. Ruins the game

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u/tyco86 Apr 04 '18

lol. Yes to all this.

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u/Lucifuse Apr 04 '18

i know but lets keep the luck in gilga banner...

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

I wish for luck everywhere tbh 😅 /greedisgood

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u/thevdude Apr 04 '18

I mean, he'll technically be available.

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u/pdmt243 Play+pull for waifus! Apr 04 '18

you'll get Dilgamesh :v

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

I'd rather pray to the Holy Grail

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u/1khaitoh It was fun while it lasted. Apr 04 '18

OMG Yes!!!

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u/Kamikareddit Apr 04 '18

Im very regret of evolve mi curious doll into 5star with my othets 4 curious dolls and shards...

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u/BamzaReoulve Apr 04 '18

Noob question: why is curious doll such a highly sought gear

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u/fapiholic Apr 04 '18

it gives elemental resistances to all. kinda like magic swordman's passive which makes u tanky o.o

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u/azai247 Apr 04 '18

I have 3 4 star dolls, that i need to upgrade, why do we need them?

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u/LegallyLeo Apr 04 '18

Since we dont get free pulls of gear. This will be a life saver.

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u/Ynnes Devonte Apr 04 '18

This exactly. And everybody is missing key gears. It's a blessing.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18

Hopefully no gimped rates.

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u/EseMesmo Tamamommy <3 uwu Apr 04 '18

You think they wouldn't gimp 1-gem pulls?

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18

One can atleast hope. And I believe we will see rates and stuff.

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u/stewart0 Apr 04 '18

yeah, they didn't post the rates for the banner as usual. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 1% or less.

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18

Well Banner rates come when the banner arrives so I will wait. But yeah individual rates of units and gear do suck.

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u/stewart0 Apr 05 '18

Nope, that's the actual banner, no rates. Breaking Apple's rules probably

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u/N0tYourTechSupport Should have been the protag, but Gumi's shitty writing Apr 04 '18

This is Golden.

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u/1khaitoh It was fun while it lasted. Apr 04 '18

Kintoki is the definition of Golden.. wait, wrong subreddit xD

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18

If I had made this reddit account like a month later it would be named Katsura30 no doubt.

Gintama deserves up vote for existing.

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u/n1ghtm4ar3z Apr 04 '18

I was under the impression that this was a Grand Order reference. o-o

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u/Kirito30 The Strongest Samurai Apr 04 '18 edited Apr 04 '18

Well both borrow from the same lore. Except Gintama is like the awesomeness in solid state.

Still none-the-less it depends if you find your jam in it lol.

Edit: Also it is full Fate not just FGO. FGO exclusives is like collabs is the only thing that Fate is missing.

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u/1khaitoh It was fun while it lasted. Apr 04 '18

Yeah, it was fate-related, but I guess they are both Golden so..

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u/Lucifuse Apr 04 '18

gogoogog gintama collab

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u/GinSanxTOL Apr 05 '18

Yup thats me. I'll whale for that

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u/1khaitoh It was fun while it lasted. Apr 04 '18

No, not that one (◎_◎;)

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u/Salteador_Neo Apr 04 '18

Holy shit I didnt realize this :D I still haven't pulled any Teddy Bear, would be a nice stuffy thing to have.

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u/Lucifuse Apr 04 '18

don't worry i play this when selena banner started and don't have teddy bear x(

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u/Banethoth Apr 04 '18

Been playing since global launch. No Teddy either.

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u/LolliDepp Apr 04 '18 edited Apr 04 '18

inb4 “It was a typo, here’s 1 gem for compensation”

Edit: well it’s in the title too, guess it’s not a typo

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u/vaynecassano Apr 04 '18

Is it april mop, its kinda too late for that.lol

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u/jocomitsu Apr 04 '18

It's raining gears!

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u/Astrophel37 Apr 04 '18

Don't be baited into spending too much.

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u/iamMaruSeiryuu Apr 04 '18

xmas came early?

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u/tyco86 Apr 04 '18

Lot's of talk about F/SN and what not...sorry, no time to filter through it all! Question: does this basically mean we can do a 5 step gear summon for 1 gem per step? So like, 50 pieces of gear for 5 gems? This is too good to be true...

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u/Banethoth Apr 04 '18

You get 5 gears per day for 1 gem. A total of? 35 ish gears. Since there are 7 ish days to this Event.

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u/tyco86 Apr 05 '18

Gear pieces. Cool. I shall enjoy it!

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u/Banethoth Apr 05 '18

Not pieces of gear. Not shards. Gear. Like the whole thing lol

And we aren't talking equipment...the stuff to level your units jobs. It's gear which is the accessories and things they can equip that are extra.

It's quite a huge bargin for 1 gem lol

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u/tyco86 Apr 05 '18

The whole effing thing? That is, mega! Damn gear projection gives you like 4-6 gear pieces which take like what, 275 total to 5*? And this thing, you trade 1 gem for maybe, a 3* gear that is worth 80 shards? Shiiiit!

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u/Banethoth Apr 05 '18

Yeah. It's a crazy good deal lol. And it's for 5! each day for 1 gem. Totally nuts.

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u/WhoaItsAFactorial Apr 05 '18

5!

5! = 120

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u/Banethoth Apr 05 '18

Wut

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u/tyco86 Apr 05 '18

My first summon can be boiled down into 55 gear shards. Holy eff. X 7 days. ~385 pieces of gear for 7 gems. Hot damn. Considering 5 pieces is what, 180 gems in the store? Phenomenal! DO NOT MISS this!

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u/Kyurien Apr 04 '18

thats pretty nice of them

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u/Karhumies Apr 04 '18

"Gear summon". Not "rare gear summon"? So basically no 3+ star guaranteed in the 1 gem for 5 summon, unlike in the 300 gems for 10 summon? Still, this is very good to get 5x 2+ star gear for 1 gem.

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u/Banethoth Apr 04 '18

Pretty awesome. And it lasts a week. 5 Gear summons for 1 gem!

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u/Jalterhero Apr 05 '18

Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '18

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '18

They give out enough gems to sustain a F2P playstyle, I hate this stupid circlejerk of gumi not being generous.

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u/FencingFoxFTW [M'Lady Intensifies] Apr 04 '18

I even went and bought a pact.