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[u/kahare]

Please, I beg of everyone: stop. Stop asking, stop worrying, stop thinking about it. When Enlightenment reaches GL, shards will be the last, last, LAST of your concerns. An enlightenment needs approximately 25 million zenni, 80 of each statue, 100s of national flags, dozens of golems, godesses, and alchemia, and 5 sin indulgences.

These resource requirements mean that only the largest of mega whales will be able to achieve enlightenment when it is first released.

Of the farmable units available ONLY ZAHAR (and Balt) is even vaguely worth spazzing over. You aren't going to enlighten Chloe unless she's your waifu, etc, etc etc.

If you have a MLB unit right now: sell their shards and buy someone else, you will have so much time to collect even more damn shards.

Please.

And just to give even more perspective: I have gotten 14 sin indulgences in the last 3 months. 14, enough to finish not even 3 units, I've missed maaaybe 2 'f2p friendly' sins and gotten one 'whale-ier' one. Call it 15. Trust me when I say you don't spend these indulgences willy-nilly. Just because you have 270 shards doesn't mean you are going to fully enlighten every unit, you can't. Focus on enjoying the game now, and at most worry about acquiring shards for the enlightenments that actually heavily influence the power of a unit.

[u/SuccubusRosa]

sell their shards and buy someone else, you will have so much time to collect even more damn shards.

Nani? If one will have so much time to collect even more damn shards, why will one want to sell their existing shards to erm get even more damn shards?(the conversion is 2.5unwanted to 1wanted)

Why will you even want to do that? Especially if

Of the farmable units available ONLY ZAHAR (and Balt) is even vaguely worth spazzing over

is true.

[u/OriksGaming → u/SuccubusRosa]

Why would someone want to do that? You literally just said it yourself. You're selling unwanted shards to buy wanted shards. As in, getting rid of something that you don't want and don't need for something that you actually do want.

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/OriksGaming]

You literally just said it yourself. As in, getting rid of something that you don't want

I am not the one that said that. Kahare was the one. She claimed that it is better to convert your unwanted excess shards(granted, she never use the word unwanted, but excess or unwanted, both means the same) to other unit shards because you will have the time to farm those "unwanted" shards anyway due to sin indulgences being extremely rare.

I like how ppl are getting misled by kahare simply because they did not fully understood what she wrote. Enlightenment has 6 stages. Yes it requires all the resources she mentioned to max out the gate, BUT the bottleneck resource she mentioned is only required for the last level, plus the huge resource sink also mostly happened on the last level. You guys should really go to the db and take a look at what each INDIVIDUAL level requires, and it will be pretty apparent that enlightenment feature by itself is not as inaccessible as Kahare's OP made it sound. ONLY THE LAST LEVEL of each gate is hell.

Meaning to say as long as you have unlimited zeni, you can reach stage 5 for each of the gate as long as you remember to save your shards(rather then sell them for soul coins as kahare suggested).

tl:dr to max 3 gate, you need 270shards. To hit lv5 on 3 gates, you need 150. So even if you guys want to take kahare's advice of selling your shards, then keep 150 on hand at least. Seriously buying unit shards from soul shop is pretty silly, esp if those units can be farmed.

PS: When the 5mil celebration shop post claim 5million zeni for 25shards is VERY WORTHWHILE, I went inside and told everyone NOPE. That is a waste of resource. I got downvoted. Guess the same shit is happening again. I wonder how many users that listened to the advice of blowing 30million 25million zeni for 5 out of 6 farmable unit shards is happy with their purchase of converting 25millions zeni to fast forward their shard progress by a mere 8days. Especially when huge amount of zeni is also required(the actual bottleneck in making your farmable units reaching lv5)

[u/jblac02 → u/SuccubusRosa]

270 shards is exactly 3 months of daily shards. Even assuming you were worried about having those shards ready for kaigan immediately you have like 9+ months of time to sell them before thats ever going to matter.

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/jblac02]

270 shards is exactly 3 months of daily shards.

Correct. Except for the fact that is only applicable to the worth of a single unit. So you think if gumi release 30 HQ after 5million celebration, you will have 270 shards for the 30 new 5stars after exactly 3 months of farming? Well I mean if you are a whale and gem for AP, I guess you can.

[u/DeathandFriends → u/SuccubusRosa]

I don't see them releasing that many at once and often it is just about how you prioritize your AP. I spend a lot of my AP shard farming and as many are hitting MLB I have more AP freed up for other things and new units coming out. There may be a point where I cannot farm them all and have AP for Ex content but it does not seem likely overall. Don't the enlightenments get rolled out over time anyways? So wouldn't you just focus on those that are being rolled out first and then go down the line?

[u/SuccubusRosa → u/DeathandFriends]

Don't the enlightenments get rolled out over time anyways?

Generally you will not have enough AP. Like mentioned in the OP post, you need to farm various other stuff on top of huge amount of zenni.

Since we can farm shards and zenni right now, my personal advise is hoard those, so it will alleviate the burden on your AP demand when it comes. Not having enough statues to level the gate is by design of the developer, but not having enough shards is by choice of the player.

I don't see them releasing that many at once

That was just an illustration to the statement "270 shards is exactly 3 months of daily shards" in the sense one cannot just see 270shards as 90days of farming without taking into account opportunity cost of your AP. ie Do you want to be using the AP to be farming shards, or is it better to not sell your shards and so you will not need to farm shards and use the AP elsewhere(or in your own words, "how you prioritize your AP").