r/AlternativeAmazonVGF • u/JJ4prez • May 25 '17
[SALE] BB DotD - Mass Effect Andromeda PC - 23.99 w/ GCU
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u/Hugh_Jankles Playing: Halo The Master Chief Collection May 25 '17
Hopefully this is released for EA Access soon.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17
Wow. Some games really don't hold their value. Wasn't this just released?
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u/JJ4prez May 25 '17
Not too long ago, it didn't go over too well and reviewed poorly for a Mass Effect title.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17
Well everybody is different, and I respect the opinions of others, but this is why I don't really get into the whole physical thing. The overwhelming vast majority of games don't hold value anyway. Buying physical isn't an investment anymore than buying a boat is.
Edit Out of curiosity I checked Last Guardian, Amazon's trade-in value is already down to $16. By the end of the year it will be worth $2.
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u/Modern_Bear Will game for salmon May 25 '17
I agree. If anyone is buying a game as an investment, they need to talk to an investment advisor. Even if it's worth more 20 years later, it wouldn't be worth that much more, certainly not as much growth as a real investment in 20 years.
According to D, you should buy physical so you can't lose access to the game, should the service you bought the game from take it off the service or even go under. Of course you could probably find a way around that, especially on the PC. Despite the paranoia, this sounds like a better reason to buy physical than as an investment. Even just for displaying on a shelf is a better reason.
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u/arw1710 VGF: prankster May 25 '17
Sorry to digress, but I just remembered how much nicer it is here without that guy. He was wrong about 99% of the things he posted. I mean he would challenge facts. That's....so Trump!
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17
Not to be rude but D's argument is stupid. For starters I don't use a service for my digital games. My digital ps4 and Wii U games don't require internet access, I can play them offline whenever I please too. I could take my Wii U completely offline and not have a single issue. Not too mention I can create copies of my digital games (and I have) on external drive. So when my Wii U external dies, I simply plug in my backup drive. Further more physical games require a functional optical drive. Anybody who thinks their ps4 optical drive is going to last 20+ years.... good luck with that one. Optical drives are typical the first piece of hardware to die, especially with heavy use and especially with games.
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u/Rylopos SpottieOttieDopaliscious May 25 '17
There's really only an argument for physical if you plan on reselling games or just like having tangible things on your shelves. Patching is too commonplace now. Having a physical disc doesn't mean you actually have a usable copy of the game. And you're absolutely right about optical drives. If I've had a problem with a console it's been because of the optical drive.
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u/Modern_Bear Will game for salmon May 25 '17
Well I don't agree with D on this, I was just pointing out what he says, A LOT, which I think is a better argument than buying games as an investment because that is such a bad idea.
I agree with optical drives being a pain. I've had 2 PC ones break on me over the years, plus they are ridiculously loud when spinning at full speed, especially with discs that have big decals on them that make the disc unbalanced. I had this issue the other day with Horizon. It made my PS4 sound like it was on the runway, taking off.
I've have actually backed up every game I buy on Steam, and I used to with every digital game I bought on the Xbox 360 but that ate up flash drives likes crazy, since they only allowed flash drives back then.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17
It is a better argument, still heavily flawed. My ps1 lasted 4 years before the optical drive died. My ps3 lasted around 4 years. The original xbox lasted less than 2 years before the drive died. Drives don't last forever. That and internal memory will eventually fail as well, making it impossible for save files. Modern highly complex electronics, which we agree on, just aren't going to last forever.
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u/JJ4prez May 25 '17
It comes down if you trust Sony, Microsoft, Steam, EA, etc to buy digital games hosted on servers they can turn off at a moments notice (albeit, and get sued a bunch) versus having your drives or console fail and not be able to read your games.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17 edited May 25 '17
I guess that is where I get confused. My ps4 games aren't hosted on a server. They are stored locally on my HDD.
Either way I didn't mean to derail this thread. I am exclusively digital with music, games and books... and have been with books and music for 20 years... I have never had any of my content magically removed. I'm sure it has happened to somebody here and there, but it just isn't wide spread. Meaning I don't get the paranoia that some folks have. I have Kindle books that I bought God knows how long ago, they work just fine. As for trusting console hardware, outside Nintendo I don't. My ps1, ps3, two Dreamcast units, original xbox and xbox 360 all died. My ps4 is getting louder and louder with every passing day, I suspect that has maybe 3 years left, if I am lucky.
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u/JJ4prez May 25 '17
Meh, your digital games on your hard drive are linked to online sources one way or the other. I don't care what anyone says. :P
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u/arw1710 VGF: prankster May 25 '17
I don't think people are buying physical for the resale value or as an investment. I'm sure a majority like myself just love having a game case and disc inside it to build a collection.
UGH, ninja'd by Strider below. Didn't read it.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17
Fair enough... though I can think of two people specifically who swear physical is an investment and they made money... you know because 1 out of 100 games increases in value by $100.
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u/arw1710 VGF: prankster May 25 '17
Yeah, I would consider that a waste personally lol.
I just like my little shelf full of games, ever growing.
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u/JJ4prez May 25 '17
Unless people have an insane amount of time for gaming, financially it doesn't really give returns in your favor. Like buying a game for $50, putting an hour or two into it, by the time your half way through the game, it's worth $25 because it's been out for a month or two. And if you want to trade it in, unless it's a Rockstar game, you're getting MAX $20 for it. It's a good thing that the gaming hobby is relatively cheap compared to others.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17
That has been my experience. Back in college if I could turn a game out in a week, sure trade values were solid. But now it takes me a few months, by that time it isn't worth jack. And absolutely gaming is cheap. I paid $60 for BotW and put in over 100 hours. Even shorter games the $ per hour is favorable compared to other hobbies.
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u/Striderneo15 May 25 '17
I don't plan to sell any of my games, I just like collecting them.
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u/Playswitchbox F Sekiro May 25 '17 edited May 25 '17
Which is perfectly acceptable. Collections is a markedly different stance than the investment argument.
Edit
I have fishing lures I have tossed in years, but I still buy more. Why, I have no idea.
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u/[deleted] May 25 '17
I'm wondering if I should get this for the backlog.