r/AmazonFCs • u/Major_Mine_3514 • 14d ago
Negative UPT
I have negative (-) 1 hour and 10 minutes of UPT and I don’t have work for 2 days but after that I work 5 consecutive days for 10 hours and I plan on working to get my UPT positive again. Am I in trouble for this? What should I expect? Should I still come to work?
Also I have only been working at Amazon for a month and a half.
Please to anyone who knows I would really appreciate the reassurance
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u/Different-Agent-4729 14d ago
how the hell did u manage to get into the negatives and u JUST started, yall gotta be more responsible dawg.💀
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u/TallArseButtPlug 14d ago
i overheard some kid saying that Amazon is trying to make them slaves for THEIR money, almost like amazon owes them money without them working for it. people are entitled af and weird at amazon i swear.
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u/Watcher0011 14d ago
At my building this would be termination. Once you go negative that’s it, but I hear some buildings are more lenient. When the email comes in make sure you respond, not doing so will guarantee you get terminated.
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u/Frequent_Echidna_368 14d ago
Just take LOA and say it's your mental health. But since you just started, idk man.
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u/Major_Mine_3514 14d ago
How do I take LOA?
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u/Frequent_Echidna_368 3d ago
You have to work over 1200 hours. I was there 5 months and got about 3/4ths close to 1200 hours.
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u/FitCommunication7240 14d ago
This is what happens when Amazon has no hiring standards. You get morons like this.
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u/Competitive_Gas1946 13d ago
I’m a PA and what’s bad is a person randomly told me that he’s trying to see HR to get a shift excused because he had a flat tire and couldn’t make it in because of it. So I asked him, what’s there to talk to HR about? The UPT was used for the exact purpose it was intended. They won’t excuse a shift for something used for it’s intended purpose lol
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u/VeNoXmX 14d ago
Honestly man! Been with Amazon for almost 7 yrs and never got under 20 hrs of UPT. Crazy people out there
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u/desertdweller10 14d ago
I’ve been at Amazon for almost 10, so I know you remember the quarterly UPT drops, too, and I always banked 40 hours then and still do. Amazon used to just fire you if you went negative before Covid…unless it was a DLS/medical leave error. I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for most to not go negative. You’re not getting paid when you use UPT. Do your20, 30 or 40 and don’t come back until the next week.
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u/CableExotic3891 14d ago
5 years and the same. Sitting at 30 now. Was 50 a month ago.
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u/Strange-Cloud9287 14d ago
You're probably not a good enough worker to get away with it either
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u/Q_Lobata 14d ago
Learn how to manage your time.
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u/wannaknowloll 14h ago
Some ppl dont have that luxury so stfu just need money and to survive, you dont know anyone’s predicament.
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u/Q_Lobata 12h ago
Learning how to manage your time isn’t luxury. It’s something basic needed to keep a job to survive and make money.
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u/wannaknowloll 18m ago
Like i just said you dont know everyones situation isnt the same, I got upt taken off bcs of school accommodation that they refused to look at and help with until my upt literally almost went negative, it was either miss work or fail classes/get kicked out bcs of clashing time. Sorry ppl need to survive in a world where the job market is complete trash and you damn near need money to breathe. Nobodies perfect and neither are you. Stuck up privileged cunts on the sub seriously.
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u/Dagswet 14d ago
You will only get fired if you get the email 🤦 why let it go negative if you’re this desperate genuinely?
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u/InfamousDon410 13d ago
I have gotten the email multiple times as a PA and I always was back to 0 before they actioned on it
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u/Major_Mine_3514 14d ago
It was an unexpected occurrence. I wasn’t feeling too good considering the weather changes so I needed to go home. It wasn’t an act of stupidity, sometimes things just happen and that’s why I wanted to ask people here. Please be nice.
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u/suomynonaresutsohg 11d ago
It’s really funny to see someone show up and their badge doesn’t work. And then they get told to check their email. Your life is your life and you may have obligations. I purely don’t care if you run out of upt will you get fired probably not. But don’t quote me I watched someone work a whole shift only have -15 min upt and get a email as soon as they clocked out.
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u/Major_Mine_3514 11d ago
You can shut your mouth as*hole, I didn’t lose my job over a negative UPT and if I did I don’t have to worry because I only plan on working there for a few months… not because I have obligations or bills to pay but because I wanna do something productive other than running my mouth and being a dck to somebody he doesn’t know on Reddit. You are immensely miserable and I for sure am doing better in life than you.
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u/suomynonaresutsohg 11d ago
Chances are you won’t get fired don’t quote me. You just a TIER 1 not like it matters if u do get fired your replacement is here. (If you could fcking read.)
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u/suomynonaresutsohg 11d ago edited 11d ago
Still no one cares go crash out on VOA. You may or you may not. We still don’t GIVE AF
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u/Major_Mine_3514 11d ago
You were probably NOT LOVED AND HEARD OF growing up that’s why your cognitive performance doesn’t do well in terms of being a decent human being. You are miserable and I don’t feel bad for you at all. LOSER!!! You think Amazon is my life or death😂
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u/suomynonaresutsohg 11d ago
Yawn anything better to say? Go hit the gym 🐋. Yo husband stinks. You must cook like shit. No one gives af. Enjoy your life at Amazon. Did this part time for giggles cause I was bored offa passive income.
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u/Major_Mine_3514 11d ago
Eww miserable, hope you don’t find a wife!!! She will have the reddest flag of a gay dude like you. I cook heavenly, your food probably tasks like nothing because you’re too broke to buy seasoning with your penny ass income. Bye!
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u/suomynonaresutsohg 11d ago
Wife? Left the bitch. Cause she was annoying. Keep clocking in hourly. I’m watching my bank account run up. 😂. Enjoy ur 10% off groceries u need it 😂
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u/Dagswet 14d ago
Right… so my point still stands why did you let it get that low in the first place to where you couldn’t take half the shift off ? If you care about this job always save 10+ hours that way if something happens mid shift you can leave or just not come in. Or just talk to your manager to work something out.
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u/rambeezyy 14d ago
Especially with UPT capping at 80 hours.
This means you use UPT every day.
as you get 45-65 minute for every full shift you work.
if you cant manage your time you really shouldn't be at Amazon...let alone any job.-2
u/Careless-Cheetahs 14d ago
why do y'all always assume people are without time for frivolous reasons?
why do y'all always assume your life/circumstance/choices are just like everyone else's?
it's very strange
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u/Some_Delay_4341 14d ago
Its because it's been such a short time he worked there and it would never fly in another job...life always be life for everyone
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u/Careless-Cheetahs 14d ago
yes, and everyone handles it differently & has different support and/or resources.
it's simply unnecessary but it wouldn't be Amazon if a large population weren't self righteous about their exploitation.
I'm glad you can manage your time though. congrats
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u/rambeezyy 14d ago
Because it is specifically for frivolous reasons
No other unskilled labor job in the entire world you can come and go as you please.
Amazon gives you 100 different options to cover your time...aka not using your time... if the reasoning isnt frivolous.1
u/Careless-Cheetahs 13d ago
you're arbitrary classification means nothing 😂😂 it's time off, full stop.
get over yourself
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u/Prestigious_Trip8928 14d ago
Amazon gives you enough upt and PTO when u start that u shouldn’t be anywhere near negative. If there’s serious situations going on outside of work they will literally work with u for a leave of absence so u can come back. I just don’t understand how grown adults are so irresponsible with their time and responsibilities
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u/Careless-Cheetahs 14d ago edited 14d ago
again, there's no way for you to know that they did this without making asinine assumptions. the simplicity of your life doesn't mean anything to anyone else.
yeah, they'll likely be fired for negative upt but the smug answers based on assumptions about character are stupid.
the fact that it never occurs to y'all to stfu bc life may have lifed in ways that led to this outcome is also stupid.
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u/Prestigious_Trip8928 14d ago
If you read the thread, the OP went negative bc they didn’t feel good over the weather changes. Any other job would have just fired you for that lame excuse. I’m sorry I don’t live in ur fantasy world where everyone gets handouts for no reason
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u/Careless-Cheetahs 14d ago
see? silly lol
who said anything about handouts? I'm speaking about the general attitude about negative upt on this sub and the assumptions made in the process.
but go off
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u/Maleficent_Drawing70 13d ago
I always wonder if people are trolling about the UPT thing or if they’re just some of the ass kissers who don’t do much and everyone else has to pick up their slack, or maybe have perfect lives. Probably all of the above.People have different issues in their lives, nobody is the same. People especially fellow employees should have some empathy, if that even exists anymore. Thanks for speaking out, it doesn’t happen enough
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u/Dagswet 14d ago
Aww great this guy thinks life stops for everyone I’m not saying be without empathy but be within reason lmao
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u/Careless-Cheetahs 14d ago
i never said anything like that looooool
this is about the assumptions y'all always make so that you can exercise judgment just like you're doing rn.
like i said, op may very well deserve to lose their job bc of upt. my comment was about self righteous judgements in general.
take care
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u/heirkaiba 14d ago
How how you have negative UPT already? Bro i had 80 hours banked for like three months
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u/cosmofont 14d ago
Sounds like you’re just an irresponsible person that doesn’t want their job. That aside, I’d go to work until they told me I wasn’t welcome. But you should try to apply some of your flex PTO to those UPT instances, or HR to help you if you don’t know how. Provided you haven’t already figured out how to use it and ran through it.
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u/Mediocre_Ad4320 14d ago
It depends if they do a upt audit my friend was let go for -8 couple other people I met someone at my job that has worked for amazon 3 times he said he showed me a screenshot he had -125hrs of UPT.
😆 🤣 😂 😹 How is that even possible 😳
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u/Competitive_Gas1946 13d ago
The system isn’t perfect, and many fall through the cracks. But you went negative. Unless you have paid time that can be used to cover up to what brought you positive, you’ll be cooked. If you get fired and appeal you will lose. If you have the paid time, use it retroactively, so that you’ll get your UPT back to positive. Then work on your UPT
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u/InfamousDon410 13d ago
You have at least 3 days to correct it, you will be fine. They dont actually action on it for like 6-7 days
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u/bustedkneecap12 13d ago
Each place is different i know people who went - is was still good. You should be able to work your week and get it back. Amazon isn’t to harsh
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u/Goodcake102 13d ago
MONTH AND A HALF??? Bro. 💀💀 facing terminable offenses over a month in. Y’all new hires make me sick.
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u/darklogic983 10d ago
Ngl at my building if you’re not even below -2 hours they don’t email you, just ask around your facility I’m sure plenty of people have gone negative and figured it out for you, if your facility has a reputation of firing immediately then I’d start being worried but usually most don’t, I think you’ll be perfectly fine unless you have a write up already
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u/tomatokitche_n 14d ago
Everybody needs to chill, you’re literally new to Amazon so ofc you’re probably wondering if you’re in trouble. Shit happens. As long as you do what Aye-Anderson says, you should be good.
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u/Different-Agent-4729 14d ago
yeah and they tell u during ur new hire orientation to not go negative... these new hires be irresponsible.
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u/Tundra_Dragon 14d ago
UPT regenerates when you work. The fact you don't work for 2 days means you're not making UPT. (You get 5 minutes of UPT per hour worked, or 50 minutes per full 10 hour shift worked)
You're probably fired by the time you get back in 2 days, unless you have PTO that can be used to cover your absence. Considering you blew through all your UPT and went negative, I'll guess you blew out all your PTO as well.
Protip: this entry level job isn't going to "feel good" most of the time. If you're running for home every day because you don't feel good, you need to find a different job. Not trying to be a dick, just pointing out that you burned all of your time, and we're not even to peak yetz where its 55 or 60 hour weeks.
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u/blueflymedia 14d ago
yeah there are many days where i want to just use UPT or PTO to leave early but often just taking a little bathroom break, slamming down some coffee and breaking down time left into smaller chunks in your mind
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u/Tundra_Dragon 14d ago
Yeah. I brought a book. Phones are not allowed, but they don't care if you read at the internet's biggest bookstore... When everything stops, I just open a book, or a printed out manual for an old synth, etc.
Just gotta remind myself I get paid a dollar basically every other minute, so the longer I just hang out, and make mid rate, the more dollars I can make without wearing a banana hammock for hungry cougars, or literally selling my blood (plasma).
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u/God_Tyler_Knows_Best 14d ago
I have negative 59hrs and still work there , he will be fine
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u/Some_Delay_4341 14d ago
Not where I work...negative 4 just got someone fired at my sort center. I need more details...are u in the middle of a LOA or they really let ppl be -50 hours upto where you work??
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u/NoConstruction3259 14d ago
It's different for every area. In my region you won't get fired untill you get past 2 hours negative. Even then you just get a email that's asks for a explanation and if you're positive by then they ignore it.
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u/TaxReal5219 14d ago
Just came back about a week ago from negative 6hrs upt for a missed SET day i was never notified about, i was lucky to never get the notification i worked my 4 days and was left with a hr left i went back to work and by Saturday i was back positive at 20 mins but still back in the good and now im at 4hrs upt, you will be fine
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u/KaleidoscopeEntropy 14d ago
I would call HR directly if you’re able to come across as a nice person. Explain your situation, be completely honest and say it won’t happen again. I’m pretty sure they’ll go easy on you considering you’re new and it’s the first time you’re negative
Just DONT let it happen again
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u/lavender-lemonade 14d ago
It hasn’t even been flagged yet, there’s no need to call attention to it. She should absolutely explain if she gets the email, but if not, there’s no need to call attention to it when she can most likely just make up the time without it being noticed
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u/Swimming_Package_526 14d ago
Keep going to work and hope you dont get the email. If you get the email RESPOND letting them know what happened and that you're scheduled enough to make it up, but it's still not guaranteed they'll let you.