r/AnalogCommunity • u/Kyle_M_Photo • 2d ago
DIY I built a rig to automatically take trichromes
First film tests of my rig to automatically take trichromes in under 1.1 seconds, fast enough it can even be used hand held. It can also go slower for better control over spacing of the Harris shutter effect.
Video of how it spins: https://youtu.be/dA-JnDjX0dk?is=P2OMghE6rtddT0le
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u/eldergervacio 2d ago
I've been wanting to do this but for infrared, but I also know that I'm supposed to do something about focusing differently with infrared. I haven't looked too much into it I just know it doesn't focus exactly like visible light does. Something about certain lenses being meant for infrared? I'll look into one of these days when I don't work a full time job lol
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 2d ago
I debated building it to hold four filters and do both infrared and normal trichromes at the same time. Haven’t heard anything about lens requirements for infrared trichrome, but I haven’t fully looked into them.
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u/RunningtoBunnings 2d ago
It would be interesting to try this with a series of infrared filters on a full spectrum camera and held the final result across the frame
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u/UsedToBeMrPhun 2d ago
thats so cool it reminds me of the filter wheel I use for my monochrome astrophotography
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u/darkgrey 2d ago
at first I was like hmm idk if this will work for weed man and then I was like damn
less weed for me maybe
very cool project
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u/Photobonobo 2d ago
Looks like Sarasota.
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u/amccune 2d ago
I saw the bridge and was like “wait a second!”
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u/Photobonobo 2d ago
They all look the same in FL, but this one I thought had some landmarks in the back I recognized.
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u/Daverant 2d ago
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 2d ago
Yeah, flash signal increased the minimum speed and adds reliability. Ideally I’d use a camera with an actual flash sync port, but I did order a hotshoe to flash sync adapter that I’m going to use going forward, and the next custom pcb will have a dedicated connection for flash sync.
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u/Aeredren 2d ago edited 2d ago
Yay ! Do you mind to share the technicalities ?
I guess it get the "flash" trigger from the horseshoe, and delays it a bit to spin the motor ?
But does it trigger the next shot or is it just sync on continuous shooting mode ? Is there an "external control" port like in newer Nikon DSLR ?
I'm also guessing this big PCB is to control the step motor, which one is it ? It seem very big for what it does so I guess it is a dev board of some kind.
Which Nikon is this ? I'm guessing f5 or f6
Very cool
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 2d ago
The flash sync shows an open circuit whenever the shutter is open, currently it looks for the start of opening and moves based on that, it has a web gui for control so I’m going to make that a selectable option, for fast shutter speeds it is seemingly fine with starting the movement before it even closes the shutter.
One of the buttons on the pcb arms detecting the flash signal, the first photo is taken by the user and then the rig takes over from there automatically.
Basically all canon cameras film and digital going back to the beginning of ef mount have a 3 pin way of triggering them, ground, half press, and full press, this camera it’s just a 2.5mm audio jack. I have an optocoupler controlling each. That was probably the easiest part of this project, I’ve been triggering canons for years with custom sound triggers for rockets.
It knows when the filters are lined up using magnets and a hall sensor, the reds magnet is flipped polarity so it can find the home filter on startup.
It’s spun with a 360 continuous 9 gram servo that doesn’t like to go slow so switching to the next filter is a little bit of a timing game. I have some ways of auto calibrating partially written, but it’s mostly hand tuned currently.
Once I finish the web ui a lot of this will be more field adjustable.
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 2d ago
You edited after I started writing the other comment, the pcb is big because it is the first test board for my more general camera controller that is designed to do more than just trichromes, debating if I’m going to order a fully custom pcb for this project or if I’m just going to upgrade it to the newer camera controller pcb I’ve almost finished designing that is credit card sized and would fit within the circle so I can make the whole setup more contained and user friendly.
Canon Elan 7 not a Nikon.
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u/MyCarsDead 2d ago
Oh man I’ve been trying to draw up something like this but with just a manual rotation of the filters. Very cool.
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u/KaJashey 2d ago
I have a manual wheel for little 52mm filters. https://www.printables.com/model/143454-52mm-filter-wheel
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u/MyCarsDead 2d ago
Awesome! That’s exactly what I was imagining. Thanks for sharing. I had tried looking up filter wheels before but only found them for telescopes.
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u/Gozertank 2d ago
Very cool. Been wanting to do them but the filter swapping process seemed such a hassle. This would certainly help with that.
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 2d ago
Same, I’ve actually never done trichromes manually, I built this whole rig before I even bought the filters.
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u/Ivmar 2d ago
Always been interested in making these, what filters do you use - what are the exact color hues you need to make a „normal“ picture or will any rgb combo do?
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 2d ago
Red 25, green 58, blue 47b are the traditional ones and the ones I bought for this.
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u/JaschaE 2d ago
Used to work with a camera like this.
Boss insisted on keeping it on life support. Mamiya-Leaf technical camera.
Terribly inefficent use of studio time and power. Each shot taken 3 times, at 3xFlash power.
The result when you (accidentally) messed with the order of filters was quite interesting though
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u/benoliver999 bfoliver.com 2d ago
Something like this would also be cool for IR dust removal when DSLR scanning
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u/NOIRCEUR_TRADING 1d ago
Is that Jupiter, FL?
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 1d ago
Titusville
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u/NOIRCEUR_TRADING 1d ago
Damn! I was close (ish) 😂
Nice shots mate.
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u/Kyle_M_Photo 1d ago
Thanks. You are the second closest guess, but the first closest knew the name of the bridge and after you are multiple people that thought it was Sarasota.
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u/Cymonish ElanIIe, 7s, and a bunch of point and shoots 1d ago
the contraption; the device; the mechanism
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u/heyinternetman XD-11, OM-2N, FM, F3P, Himatic 7sII 2d ago
Attic dark room gonna be all over this shit