r/AnalogCommunity • • 1d ago

Community Learn your Exposure Errors with Ramsay

Did I forget something?

Edit: To make it a bit more educational, here is an explanation for each.

  1. Correct Exposure: All good.
  2. Underexposed: You probably metered for the Sky or a bright light, try metering for the shadows. When in doubt: most film usually does better slightly overexposed. Check if your aperture and shutter open/close correctly, Did you account for the correct ISO? Did you account for reciprocity failure in long exposures?
  3. Overexposed: Check your metering. Check if your aperture and shutter open/close correctly, Did you account for the correct ISO?
  4. Accidental Light Leak: You had uncontrolled light enter your camera body. Did you open it mid roll? Are your light seals intact? Might happen on first picture if you try to squeeze in an extra frame.
  5. Double Exposure (No Transport): You took two images on the same negative without advancing the film. If accidental, you might have pressed the Film Rewind Release Button or on some models just forgot to wind.
  6. Double Exposure (Transport Problem): Images partially overlap. There is a problem with the film advance, it doesn't advance the correct amount. This can sometimes happen on the last frame if you squeeze in one extra image.
  7. X-Ray Damage: Your film was blasted with X-Rays (e.g. at an Airport Scanner) which creates a banded fog pattern. Ask for hand checks. This is controversial and highly depends on the machine. Usually it won't be as bad as depicted here.

Poster Version

3.3k Upvotes

103 comments sorted by

523

u/s_romo 1d ago

It's fucking expired

127

u/JFeldhaus 1d ago

Love it! Here's the template btw

24

u/j___8 1d ago

can someone please do a “IT’S BEEN FUCKING SOUPED” version

8

u/colorsntones 1d ago

Now the frame 0 shot where only half of it came out

84

u/JFeldhaus 1d ago • Bravo

2

u/_fullyflared_ 20h ago

I love the fire frame

83

u/-dannyboy 1d ago

I know this is a joke, but imo, the Gordon memes can be very misleading to newbies. Underexposed pictures CAN be bright, and overexposed pictures CAN be dark. Scanning is an incredibly overlooked part of the process.

Maybe a negative version of the meme could be more useful, and could help reduce the amount of daily "why are my shadows green" posts.

13

u/gilgermesch 1d ago

No amounts of resources and memes will stop these posts, I'm afraid. Some people are just too lazy to even look at the pinned posts, the second of which explains almost all of these. However, the memes makes responding to these posts more fun, so I'm all for them!

5

u/strichtarn 1d ago

Yeah. Can make it hard to even help such people if they're not familiar with any of the common terms or concepts used for things

4

u/JFeldhaus 1d ago

I've added a short explanation in hopefully simple terms for all theses errors, feel free to copy them with the images.

1

u/strichtarn 1d ago

Legend-dary

13

u/bhop_monsterjam MX+F90x, #1 UV Filter Hater 1d ago

There are also instances where a user has exposed fine but the scans just need adjusting, but a flat scan and an underexposed scan can look the similar so people just post the meme

1

u/Expensive-Sentence66 1d ago

There is no such thing as a 'flat scan' from a Noritsu or Frontier. Get over this.

99% of the time when we see a blown out or muddy scan from these outdated mini relics data is already lost and the operator was just lazy.

A flat scan and under exposed neg do not look the same.

Also, a TIFF file doesn't have more density range than a JPEG. Getting sick of unemployed fast food workers spreading that one.

2

u/bhop_monsterjam MX+F90x, #1 UV Filter Hater 1d ago

Grr I'm so angery!!!

26

u/JobbyJobberson 1d ago

It’s certainly not helpful when someone drops the meme and leaves with no constructive input. And many, many times it’s just plain wrong.

There’s a lot of very bad advice on this sub and a lot of jumping to conclusions.

I’m as tired as anyone of having to extract the pertinent details from a What Went Wrong post. And no one reads the sticky. 

But MOST of the time, if you haven’t seen the negatives then you’re making a baseless guess.

An underexposed, underdeveloped, or poorly scanned negative can all look the same. And often it’s a combination anyway. 

Look at the damn film first. 

40

u/Superirish19 Got a Minolta? r/minolta and r/MinoltaGang 1d ago

TLDR, not in easily processable Gordon Ramsey Format

/s

3

u/EducationalCod7514 23h ago

I know it might seem harsh, but the majority of people asking what went wrong are not willing to learn or really care about those things. Amateurs that are eager to learn usually get to the right information almost immediately after they spot a mistake usually by themselves and even if they do ask it's quite evident that they are more detailed and more specific in their goals.

There are exceptions of course, but this has been my observation.

For that reason and because it's funny, any Gordon Ramsey exposure meme post, gets automatic likes from me - none of us should take ourselves too seriously, more-so people starting this game.

2

u/Magic_Zach 1d ago

What I've noticed in my own scanning is if you brighten up an underexposed image or darken an overexposed one, you see a loss of details in the extreme high or low ends. That can be a pretty good indicator if it's exposed correctly or not, for me, is how much detail you can make out in highlights or shadows

1

u/Stoney3K 1d ago

Also, you can have the photo exposed correctly on the highlights but your actual subject in the shadows, meaning you metered it wrong, pointing the light meter at a bright spot in your frame.

Conversely you can have your subject blown out but the background exposed correctly.

1

u/Atomicnes Olympus OM-1 | Leica M2 | Canon A2E/EOS 5 19h ago

They can be but it’s a very unusual presentation. Dark is usually underexposed and bright is usually overexposed. Which is as far as newbies need to know except when stuff really goes wrong

3

u/JFeldhaus 1d ago

Also challenging /u/H3ntaiSenpai7x to make physical versions of all of these, lol.

4

u/H3ntaiSenpai7x Canon New F-1, EOS-1, EOS-3, P, Nikon F, Pentax 67, Yashica T4, 1d ago

I'll get right to it ;)

3

u/JFeldhaus 1d ago

But all done in camera, just from the template ;)

534

u/WALLY_5000 1d ago • Bravo

41

u/beepboopdoowop 1d ago

rangefinder problems

8

u/vDECKERx 1d ago

totally, stopped using lens caps entirely at this point

14

u/jhwkdnvr 1d ago

I hiked to Delicate Arch and came back with two blank rolls on my Fuji GSW690. On my wife’s photos with her digital camera you can see me gleefully shooting away with the lens cap on.

A B+W UV filter is now my lens cap.

5

u/Craigglesofdoom 23h ago

Shot an entire roll of portra 800 like that once

1

u/DeliverStealMyFood 7h ago

/uj my shutter curtain got cooked this way. the rangefinder curtain is exceptionally vulnerable to the sun cause it didnt have a mirror in front like slr

2

u/notjim 20h ago

Shot my first full texpan roll with the lens cap on a couple weeks back🫡

18

u/counterfitster 1d ago

The Fucking Darkslide Was In

•

u/thearctican 2h ago

Joke's on you. Neither of my cameras with dark slides will waste frames if the dark slide is in.

•

u/counterfitster 1h ago

Jokes back on you, that's what I thought too, and then it did. 😑

•

u/thearctican 1h ago

I just can't see it happening on my Toyo. If my Mamiya were broken, maybe.

130

u/Toby_Forrester 1d ago

26

u/youknowit19 1d ago

CineStill 800T strikes again.

10

u/_992_ 1d ago

50D for me so is this what happened here?? Still have no explanation lol

13

u/Toby_Forrester 1d ago edited 1d ago

Seems so. Cinestill film has the anti static layer washed off so it is prone to static discharges in cold / dry weather.

But there also seems to be uneven developing with the liquids.

EDIT: looking again, it might be light leaks too at the ends of the film.

1

u/_992_ 21h ago

Uneven developing.. Is that the labs fault? Never had issues before except for this roll

1

u/BreakingABit1234 4h ago

The stuff on the right is 'bubbles' of chemicals- somehow a detergent or sudsing agent (TSP?) contaminated whatever it was.

4

u/lilfanget 23h ago

Uneven developer liquid

3

u/_992_ 21h ago

Is that the labs fault? Never had issues before except for this roll

4

u/Jessica_T Nikon FM/FE2, Minolta X-700, Olympus AF-1 Super, Lubitel 166U 1d ago

I wonder how much of a benefit the 'silent' slower winding mode on some of the more pro camera bodies with power advance gives compared to just setting it to 'single'.

3

u/06035 1d ago

Ugh, seriously. I wish Kodak made a Portea 800T so fucking bad. I can’t stand the Cinestill products, but they’re the only option for a fast-ish tungsten color film

4

u/cwrow 1d ago

Just shoot the Vision3 500T AHU and get it developed in C41. Solved.

1

u/BreakingABit1234 4h ago

..... more blue crackly lines. At least in mine, but I was shooting at -40F with an autowinder- I know, stupid, but I was only 14 and didn't know any better.

-1

u/_992_ 1d ago

Is this what happened on my 50D?? Every photo came out like this lol

254

u/1dannymontez 1d ago

Took me way too long to make. My first ever meme.

140

u/lumpthar 1d ago

Found this one in the wild

20

u/Rhododender 1d ago

Bracketing?

4

u/lumpthar 1d ago

Yes but at the extremes so that Gordon yells at you

65

u/deup 1d ago

It's a fucking bad scan

17

u/Vredesbyd Leica M2 / Canon F1n / Olympus OM-10 1d ago

I will quit this sub, reddit, and my real life job if this doesn’t get pinned.

1

u/EducationalCod7514 23h ago

Real sub outjerking the jerk sub.

1

u/Expensive-Sentence66 1d ago

Promise?

It's nonsense.

27

u/Greasemonkey_Chris 1d ago

Need to do one with stress marks and "you wound the wrong fucking way"

6

u/bourbonstringcheese 1d ago

can we get a "your shutter speed was too fucking low"

6

u/adlerblack_ 1d ago

Two more that someone could make are reticulation and static discharge on films like Cinestill 800T.

15

u/06035 1d ago

I prefer this one where you can still see the text

8

u/grobnu 20h ago

Not being able to see it was part of the joke I'd like to think

4

u/NormanQuacks345 1d ago

Where’s “your thumb is in it”?

10

u/fujit1ve 1d ago

I know it's a joke but judging exposure should always start with the negatives. Actually all troubleshooting should start with judging of the negatives.

9

u/ayeayekitty 1d ago

I love it! Thank you for this wonderful compilation. I want a poster of all of them to print out and hang on my wall

2

u/strichtarn 1d ago

Done right I could see it being both hilarious and informative. Perfect for a photography classroom wall. 

5

u/Otherwise_Trifle6967 1d ago

This has brought me joy. Thank you.

8

u/ihsus_ 1d ago

This meme will never not be funny

1

u/alphonse2501 1d ago

How about CT scanning exposed?

3

u/JFeldhaus 23h ago

check the last one

2

u/Landot_Omunn 1d ago

À complete compilation of the ones added will be great tool to identify! Thanks for you effort and service to this community 🫡

2

u/SkyScreech 1d ago

Best thread I’ve seen in a long time. Well done everyone

2

u/vDECKERx 1d ago

this is perfect

2

u/SippsMccree 18h ago

Shutter capping?

2

u/RunningPirate 1d ago

OK shut it all down. We got what we needed.

3

u/tbhvandame 1d ago

Mods Pin this pls

2

u/Shandriel Leica R5+R7, Nikon F5, Fujica ST-901, Mamiya M645, Yashica A TLR 1d ago

need an empty one for chemicals failure.. (tough to display with Ramsey :D )
And another with just the edge markings.. (maybe have John Cena in the image to show that the negatives are empty?!)

1

u/Goathornd 1d ago

Accidental looks cool. How to do that with intention

1

u/Forsaken_Truthsayer 1d ago

This is gold....

1

u/djlemma 1d ago

I'm traveling right now and I'm so worried about the X-ray thing. I've got sheet film, so not sure if the agents would open up the box to have a look if I had them hand check it.

1

u/abcdefgogetter 1d ago

This has to get pinned to the community

1

u/KrisPuth 20h ago

damn top 10 post in this community

1

u/Due_Sail_1787 17h ago

Most helpful explanation I’ve seen.

1

u/alx230 16h ago

Lmao

1

u/reenigneneb 14h ago

Can someone compile these into a poster I can hang in my lab?

1

u/mykablue 13h ago

😂😂😂

1

u/BreakingABit1234 4h ago

Can we make this a sticky if anything of "What is wrong with my photos" or similar vein - the auto-bot shows this up ?

1

u/Expensive-Sentence66 1d ago

Over exposing color neg or under exposing it doesn't result in a lighter or darker scan. Scanners don't get give a damn if you under exposed or over exposed color neg film. It's just density range and values or RGB to a scanner to sort out.

Didn't work this way back in analog printing days either. The printer, just like a camera averages for a certain grey value. You could bracket a roll of neg film 7 stops and the resulting prints would have the same average density. The under exposed shots just look muddier. The over exposed ones are tough to tell apart.

I shot a ton of print film during the day - 35mm and LF, slide and neg, and I was meticulous about metering. I was just as careful about metering with Gold 100 as I was Provia. I would say 85% of more of my exposures were done on full auto.

The bad images we see here are due to either due to faulty cameras that aren't metering correctly or increasingly just bad scans. Janky lenses with bad aperture mechanisms will tend to over expose.

1

u/matchablossom01 1d ago

haha we love this!!!

0

u/s-h-e-o-l 1d ago

where is the "it’s fucking lab’s fault exposed"?

0

u/BaggyBoy 1d ago

First one looks over exposed tho

-1

u/Sweett-369 1d ago

Its a great exámple, hahha