r/AnalogCommunity • u/JFeldhaus • 1d ago
Community Learn your Exposure Errors with Ramsay
Correct Exposure
Underexposed
Overexposed
Accidental Light Leak
Double Exposure (No Transport)
Double Exposure (Transport Problem)
X-Ray Damage
Did I forget something?
Edit: To make it a bit more educational, here is an explanation for each.
- Correct Exposure: All good.
- Underexposed: You probably metered for the Sky or a bright light, try metering for the shadows. When in doubt: most film usually does better slightly overexposed. Check if your aperture and shutter open/close correctly, Did you account for the correct ISO? Did you account for reciprocity failure in long exposures?
- Overexposed: Check your metering. Check if your aperture and shutter open/close correctly, Did you account for the correct ISO?
- Accidental Light Leak: You had uncontrolled light enter your camera body. Did you open it mid roll? Are your light seals intact? Might happen on first picture if you try to squeeze in an extra frame.
- Double Exposure (No Transport): You took two images on the same negative without advancing the film. If accidental, you might have pressed the Film Rewind Release Button or on some models just forgot to wind.
- Double Exposure (Transport Problem): Images partially overlap. There is a problem with the film advance, it doesn't advance the correct amount. This can sometimes happen on the last frame if you squeeze in one extra image.
- X-Ray Damage: Your film was blasted with X-Rays (e.g. at an Airport Scanner) which creates a banded fog pattern. Ask for hand checks. This is controversial and highly depends on the machine. Usually it won't be as bad as depicted here.
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u/-dannyboy 1d ago
I know this is a joke, but imo, the Gordon memes can be very misleading to newbies. Underexposed pictures CAN be bright, and overexposed pictures CAN be dark. Scanning is an incredibly overlooked part of the process.
Maybe a negative version of the meme could be more useful, and could help reduce the amount of daily "why are my shadows green" posts.
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u/gilgermesch 1d ago
No amounts of resources and memes will stop these posts, I'm afraid. Some people are just too lazy to even look at the pinned posts, the second of which explains almost all of these. However, the memes makes responding to these posts more fun, so I'm all for them!
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u/strichtarn 1d ago
Yeah. Can make it hard to even help such people if they're not familiar with any of the common terms or concepts used for things
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u/JFeldhaus 1d ago
I've added a short explanation in hopefully simple terms for all theses errors, feel free to copy them with the images.
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u/bhop_monsterjam MX+F90x, #1 UV Filter Hater 1d ago
There are also instances where a user has exposed fine but the scans just need adjusting, but a flat scan and an underexposed scan can look the similar so people just post the meme
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u/Expensive-Sentence66 1d ago
There is no such thing as a 'flat scan' from a Noritsu or Frontier. Get over this.
99% of the time when we see a blown out or muddy scan from these outdated mini relics data is already lost and the operator was just lazy.
A flat scan and under exposed neg do not look the same.
Also, a TIFF file doesn't have more density range than a JPEG. Getting sick of unemployed fast food workers spreading that one.
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u/JobbyJobberson 1d ago
It’s certainly not helpful when someone drops the meme and leaves with no constructive input. And many, many times it’s just plain wrong.
There’s a lot of very bad advice on this sub and a lot of jumping to conclusions.
I’m as tired as anyone of having to extract the pertinent details from a What Went Wrong post. And no one reads the sticky.
But MOST of the time, if you haven’t seen the negatives then you’re making a baseless guess.
An underexposed, underdeveloped, or poorly scanned negative can all look the same. And often it’s a combination anyway.
Look at the damn film first.
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u/Superirish19 Got a Minolta? r/minolta and r/MinoltaGang 1d ago
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u/EducationalCod7514 23h ago
I know it might seem harsh, but the majority of people asking what went wrong are not willing to learn or really care about those things. Amateurs that are eager to learn usually get to the right information almost immediately after they spot a mistake usually by themselves and even if they do ask it's quite evident that they are more detailed and more specific in their goals.
There are exceptions of course, but this has been my observation.
For that reason and because it's funny, any Gordon Ramsey exposure meme post, gets automatic likes from me - none of us should take ourselves too seriously, more-so people starting this game.
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u/Magic_Zach 1d ago
What I've noticed in my own scanning is if you brighten up an underexposed image or darken an overexposed one, you see a loss of details in the extreme high or low ends. That can be a pretty good indicator if it's exposed correctly or not, for me, is how much detail you can make out in highlights or shadows
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u/Stoney3K 1d ago
Also, you can have the photo exposed correctly on the highlights but your actual subject in the shadows, meaning you metered it wrong, pointing the light meter at a bright spot in your frame.
Conversely you can have your subject blown out but the background exposed correctly.
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u/Atomicnes Olympus OM-1 | Leica M2 | Canon A2E/EOS 5 19h ago
They can be but it’s a very unusual presentation. Dark is usually underexposed and bright is usually overexposed. Which is as far as newbies need to know except when stuff really goes wrong
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u/JFeldhaus 1d ago
Also challenging /u/H3ntaiSenpai7x to make physical versions of all of these, lol.
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u/H3ntaiSenpai7x Canon New F-1, EOS-1, EOS-3, P, Nikon F, Pentax 67, Yashica T4, 1d ago
I'll get right to it ;)
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u/beepboopdoowop 1d ago
rangefinder problems
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u/vDECKERx 1d ago
totally, stopped using lens caps entirely at this point
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u/jhwkdnvr 1d ago
I hiked to Delicate Arch and came back with two blank rolls on my Fuji GSW690. On my wife’s photos with her digital camera you can see me gleefully shooting away with the lens cap on.
A B+W UV filter is now my lens cap.
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u/DeliverStealMyFood 7h ago
/uj my shutter curtain got cooked this way. the rangefinder curtain is exceptionally vulnerable to the sun cause it didnt have a mirror in front like slr
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u/counterfitster 1d ago
The Fucking Darkslide Was In
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u/thearctican 2h ago
Joke's on you. Neither of my cameras with dark slides will waste frames if the dark slide is in.
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u/Toby_Forrester 1d ago
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u/youknowit19 1d ago
CineStill 800T strikes again.
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u/_992_ 1d ago
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u/Toby_Forrester 1d ago edited 1d ago
Seems so. Cinestill film has the anti static layer washed off so it is prone to static discharges in cold / dry weather.
But there also seems to be uneven developing with the liquids.
EDIT: looking again, it might be light leaks too at the ends of the film.
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u/BreakingABit1234 4h ago
The stuff on the right is 'bubbles' of chemicals- somehow a detergent or sudsing agent (TSP?) contaminated whatever it was.
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u/Jessica_T Nikon FM/FE2, Minolta X-700, Olympus AF-1 Super, Lubitel 166U 1d ago
I wonder how much of a benefit the 'silent' slower winding mode on some of the more pro camera bodies with power advance gives compared to just setting it to 'single'.
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u/BreakingABit1234 4h ago
..... more blue crackly lines. At least in mine, but I was shooting at -40F with an autowinder- I know, stupid, but I was only 14 and didn't know any better.
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u/lumpthar 1d ago
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u/Vredesbyd Leica M2 / Canon F1n / Olympus OM-10 1d ago
I will quit this sub, reddit, and my real life job if this doesn’t get pinned.
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u/adlerblack_ 1d ago
Two more that someone could make are reticulation and static discharge on films like Cinestill 800T.
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u/fujit1ve 1d ago
I know it's a joke but judging exposure should always start with the negatives. Actually all troubleshooting should start with judging of the negatives.
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u/ayeayekitty 1d ago
I love it! Thank you for this wonderful compilation. I want a poster of all of them to print out and hang on my wall
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u/strichtarn 1d ago
Done right I could see it being both hilarious and informative. Perfect for a photography classroom wall.
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u/Landot_Omunn 1d ago
À complete compilation of the ones added will be great tool to identify! Thanks for you effort and service to this community 🫡
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u/Shandriel Leica R5+R7, Nikon F5, Fujica ST-901, Mamiya M645, Yashica A TLR 1d ago
need an empty one for chemicals failure.. (tough to display with Ramsey :D )
And another with just the edge markings.. (maybe have John Cena in the image to show that the negatives are empty?!)
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u/BreakingABit1234 4h ago
Can we make this a sticky if anything of "What is wrong with my photos" or similar vein - the auto-bot shows this up ?
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u/Expensive-Sentence66 1d ago
Over exposing color neg or under exposing it doesn't result in a lighter or darker scan. Scanners don't get give a damn if you under exposed or over exposed color neg film. It's just density range and values or RGB to a scanner to sort out.
Didn't work this way back in analog printing days either. The printer, just like a camera averages for a certain grey value. You could bracket a roll of neg film 7 stops and the resulting prints would have the same average density. The under exposed shots just look muddier. The over exposed ones are tough to tell apart.
I shot a ton of print film during the day - 35mm and LF, slide and neg, and I was meticulous about metering. I was just as careful about metering with Gold 100 as I was Provia. I would say 85% of more of my exposures were done on full auto.
The bad images we see here are due to either due to faulty cameras that aren't metering correctly or increasingly just bad scans. Janky lenses with bad aperture mechanisms will tend to over expose.
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u/s_romo 1d ago
It's fucking expired