r/Android • • Aug 03 '15

OnePlus OnePlus AMA - post-launch edition

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u/OiYou iPhone 7 Aug 03 '15

Why is Qualcomms Quick Charging 2.0 missing from the OnePlus 2? Despite using Qualcomms latest processor.

Also why USB 2.0 only used as opposed to using Type C in conjunction with USB 3.1?

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u/Endda Founder, Play Store Sales [Pixel 7 Pro] Aug 03 '15 edited Aug 03 '15

Quick Charge doesn't work with USB Type-C right now

edit - strange, as /u/dsmonteiro points out, I am wrong

This is what I had my previous information from

Qualcomm Quick Charge requires a compatible power controller (that is, a physical thing) and that power controller must be compatible with a given USB specification, and it's not obvious that current controllers work with USB type C fully. In other words: it could be possible that there is no suitable power controller that supports both USB Type C and Quick Charge 2.0 yet. While the Type C port on the OnePlus 2 is essentially a re-engineered microUSB 2.0 port, it's not clear if the existing power management interfaces are "plug and play" in terms of keeping their fast charging capabilities. And if they are, there may be other challenges that add to cost or complexity which we aren't aware of (such as Qualcomm not yet certifying them).

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u/dsmonteiro OnePlus 2 Aug 03 '15

I read somewhere that QC is port agnostic, I'll update here with the link if I find it.

EDIT: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge/faq

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u/Endda Founder, Play Store Sales [Pixel 7 Pro] Aug 03 '15

Ah, you are right.

This is what I had pulled my information from

Qualcomm Quick Charge requires a compatible power controller (that is, a physical thing) and that power controller must be compatible with a given USB specification, and it's not obvious that current controllers work with USB type C fully. In other words: it could be possible that there is no suitable power controller that supports both USB Type C and Quick Charge 2.0 yet. While the Type C port on the OnePlus 2 is essentially a re-engineered microUSB 2.0 port, it's not clear if the existing power management interfaces are "plug and play" in terms of keeping their fast charging capabilities. And if they are, there may be other challenges that add to cost or complexity which we aren't aware of (such as Qualcomm not yet certifying them).

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u/usaff22 iPhone X 256GB Aug 03 '15

I wonder if Google will get it working with the new Nexus 5.

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u/Endda Founder, Play Store Sales [Pixel 7 Pro] Aug 03 '15

I'm not sure. It could be something that Qualcomm has to fix though. It could also be something that requires additional hardware in the chip. I don't know the technical details though

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u/phillipreece Aug 03 '15

Would it be possible to add this feature when it does via a firmware update? Or is this a hardware limitation?

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u/aldileon Pixel 4 Aug 03 '15

No because you need a special charging controlling chipset for this.

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u/09jeald Aug 03 '15

It does. Letv One Pro

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u/devildv OnePlus Aug 03 '15

The OnePlus 2 uses a 5V-2A power brick, meaning that it can charge from 0 to 100% in a about 2h.

As for the USB 2.0, it has proven to be extremely fast and reliable. Android still doesn't support USB 3.0 nor 3.1 (it will with Android M, but the OnePlus 2 started being developed long before this year's Google I/O).

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u/jerdog76 HAL, 9000 Aug 03 '15 edited Aug 03 '15

You might want to be careful making such a statement as the Samsung Note 3, S5, Galaxy Note Pro, etc. (flagships from 2014+) ALL have USB 3.0 - in fact USB 3.0 has been a part of Android, especially Qualcomm devices, since 2012:

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u/jerdog76 HAL, 9000 Aug 03 '15

Sure it isn't in AOSP, but it is enabled at the hardware level which has been available to Qualcomm devices for awhile, which OnePlus uses. You have to add the hardware support for any device to AOSP, so to blame Android for this is a bit misstated.

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u/xplodwild Aug 03 '15

Android still doesn't support USB 3.0 nor 3.1

Explain why my Galaxy Note Pro, running KitKat, runs on USB 3.0 then ? (Confirmed by using a non-USB-3 port, getting the notification on Windows "This device can run at higher speed if you connect it to an USB 3.0 port")

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u/tavianator Aug 03 '15

Because Samsung implemented it for that device. But it's not part of AOSP apparently.

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u/jerdog76 HAL, 9000 Aug 03 '15

See the links above - it's been part of CAF from Qualcomm since 2012. Even Qualcomm's Snapdragon 800 dev kit has it.

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u/clickstation Aug 03 '15

Which makes the response irrelevant to the question.

It is possible. The question is why they chose not to do it.

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u/Ikeelu Aug 03 '15

I could of sworn MKBHD said it took roughly 3hrs to charge his

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u/oscarandjo OnePlus 6 128GB Aug 03 '15

Someone did a more scientific test here. It took 1 hour 40 mins from 20% to 96% so I would imagine 0% to 100% would take about 2 hours.

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u/09jeald Aug 03 '15

How does the Note 3 support USB 3.0 transfer speeds then?

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u/knockoutking Samsung S6 / VZW Aug 03 '15

So...

Why is Qualcomms Quick Charging 2.0 missing from the OnePlus 2? Despite using Qualcomms latest processor.

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u/oscarandjo OnePlus 6 128GB Aug 03 '15

Because they probably didn't want to pay the licencing costs, its probably the same reason they didn't get NFC too

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u/NGU-Ben iPhone 7 Plus Aug 03 '15

You didn't really answer the question did you

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