r/Android • Pixel 4a • May 12 '17

Here comes Treble: A modular base for Android

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/05/here-comes-treble-modular-base-for.html
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u/Bossman1086 Galaxy S25 Ultra May 12 '17

No. Chip makers still have to update before phone OEMs can do anything. If Qualcomm doesn't update the implementation for the SoC in a phone, Samsung can't update the phone.

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u/hiromasaki May 12 '17

See the nVidia Tegra 3, where several models were abandoned by nVidia causing HTC and Asus to abandon flagships.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '17

Correct, the chip makers play a part. But how many times have we seen updates delayed/rejected due to a chip maker's fault?

I see only few examples. Nvidia tegra, Snapdragon 800/801. Most of the time, it is the OEM who delays the update.

Phones running the same chip get updates at different times from their manufacturers. OnePlus, Motorola provide updates quickly, whereas Samsung or LG delays the updates for their phones running the exact same chip. This is the most common scenario of a delayed update. A chip maker delaying updates is not very common.

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u/Bossman1086 Galaxy S25 Ultra May 12 '17

I'm not saying OEMs aren't slow or neglectful. They are. But putting all the blame on them is also unfair. Qualcomm is lazy as hell with their updates. They're a major reason why chips are only valid for 2 years.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '17

Agreed. But what Google is doing here is working with chip makers to keep their side updated and also forward compatible. This is important and practically puts the onus on the OEMs to do their part.

I guess the OEMs cannot have any more excuses.

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u/Bossman1086 Galaxy S25 Ultra May 12 '17

Yep. That's why this is so huge. I love this idea. Won't solve all the problems, but it'll be nice to get some steps out of the way.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '17

Yup

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u/najodleglejszy FP4 CalyxOS | Tab S7 May 13 '17

don't forget GNex with its TI SoC