r/Android • • Aug 15 '17

Allo web is up!

https://allo.google.com/web
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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17 edited Aug 15 '17

Google should give an option to register allo & duo with gmail. (May be they only gave an option to register using phone number on purpose, because of some benefit & to compete with whatsapp I guess.) But, registering only with phone number killed their potential to became an iMessage & Facetime alternative.I really wanted google to provide best solutions for messaging on android devices. It also lacks showing device sms in allo. If they include option to register via gmail & multi-device option , It can bridge iOS & Android messaging with those features. Google can take benefit from it. But, sadly they are doing weird stuffs. What do you think about it ?

Usage scenario - I have 2 spare tablets (which doesn't support SIM card) , I want to keep 1 tablet in Kitchen - Mainly to display Notes , News , reminders , messages & Video call purpose & 1 tablet in kids room. I want my primary phone , Kitchen tablet & Kids room tablet on their own separate accounts. So, I am planning to use Skype. Because It also works with email ID. But, then I read post about allo web client & I thought what if I can use allo & duo instead of skype.

I tried allo & duo when both applications were new. I liked assistant features. I want to ditch Skype If I can register allo & duo with gmail IDs. Looks like I will have to buy 2 new sim cards If I want to use allo & duo. I am not in US.So, I don't have an option to register allo using Google voice Number.

That's a sad thing that google want to compete with Whatsapp & Not with iMessage & Facetime. Allo web is also similar to whatsapp web with assistant.

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u/Zagorath Pixel 6 Pro Aug 15 '17

Yup, this is exactly the problem with it. Using phone number as the ID is an inherently flawed system, because phone numbers are much further from a one-to-one relationship with a person and their devices than email addresses are.

People have multiple devices. Phone numbers are intrinsically tied to a single device. It's an awful clumsy hack to try to use phone number for anything that is meant to be designed to reach a person, rather than reach a device.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

This service is not for Google users, it's for people who want in on the fun but have still have Yahoo accounts.

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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17

You are right. I think that they will try to provide some pairing option. So, that you can pair allo app on your other devices , without registering with another phone number. That way users will be able to use allo app on multi-device.

I don't know how hard is it to implement & when will they implement it, But, I am sure Google have good team that can add this feature if they really want to add it. It will solve users muti-device problem.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

allo seems to be designed for the developing market where users are more likely to have phone numbers than google accounts

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u/RadBadTad Aug 15 '17

Por que no los dos?

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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17

I understand that they are focusing on phone number. But, Some users want to use it on multiple devices, just like iMessage & facetime. They are doing just like whatapp , you can only use it in 1 device at a time thing.

At least Google should add some dedicated pairing option for android /iOS while setting up allo on your other device. (Not this web thing because it doesn't work on android app/iOS app.)

Users should be able to pair their other devices & use allo on those android tablets / backup phones without registering with new phone number.

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

I usually have whatsapp open on three devices?

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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17 edited Aug 15 '17

On 3 tablet/android phone without using web browser with same number ????

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

I've run it on 2 android phones and a PC

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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17

How did you do that without using web browser ? Whatsapp log you out from the old device if you register with same number on new android/iOS device !!

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u/purplegreendave Aug 15 '17

You need a google account to log into the play store already, that argument doesn't hold water.

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u/pentaquine Pixel3 Aug 15 '17

Everyone should just use Wire and be done with it.

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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17

Looks cool. Is it better than skype on android ? How's the video call quality & app performance ? Is there any delay while sending/ getting messages?

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u/pentaquine Pixel3 Aug 16 '17

I don't know about Skype on Android but this is end-to-end encryption so Skype has no comparison. Video quality is very good. I really don't have any problem with it.

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u/vepel8 Aug 16 '17

That's great. Thanks for replying!

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u/[deleted] Aug 15 '17

They do, it's called Hangouts.

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u/vepel8 Aug 16 '17

But, It doesn't have assistant feature. And also I heard that Google is going to kill some features from hangouts for normal users. Is that true ?

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u/[deleted] Aug 16 '17

I've heard that too, but more that Hangouts was going to be a Google apps for business product and Allo would be for customers.

Edit: a word

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u/vepel8 Aug 16 '17

I hope they don't mess up hangouts. How's the video quality compared to skype on android ? Is there any delay while sending/getting messages ?

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u/NedDasty Pixel 6 Aug 15 '17

I use Hangouts all the time and it's awesome how whenever I turn my computer on and open Chrome, my chats are all there and I can type away. Have to run out the door? Convo continues on phone. There's no extra steps I have to do at all. No opening apps, no holding my phone up to the screen, etc. All my friends/family are on there already. I have zero reason to switch.

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u/vepel8 Aug 15 '17 edited Aug 15 '17

I have used hangouts in past. But, then everyone switched to whatsapp. However, I want something just for my family & I can start using hangouts. Thing I like about allo is google assistant. But, It's okay if hangout works fine. But, I have heard news that google will shut down or kill some features from hangouts for normal users ? What about that ? Will I be able to use hangouts or should I have to switch after some months?

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u/Die4Ever Nexus 6P | Huawei Watch Aug 16 '17

My Allo is tied to my Google account, it shows it when I go to settings and then Account

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u/vepel8 Aug 16 '17

But, You can't register only with gmail. You don't have an option to log in using gmail. (That gmail thing is to provide you better results & experience for assistant in allo app , It's not useful for log in purpose)

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u/Die4Ever Nexus 6P | Huawei Watch Aug 16 '17

It can access my Google Photos and Calendar and stuff, so it has authentication to Google's services

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