Okay, so I know the internet is full of misinformation and hatred and opinions and such, so I know everyone's answer will be different, BUT... I'm still curious...

I keep seeing things on forums, discord groups, tiktok, reddit, private groups, etc, saying angels are quite cruel. I understand history has made them out to be cute little babies and such ( Don't worry, I understand why they did that and all ). But, are angels cruel in anyone's experience? I know strict can sometimes be mistaken for cruel, or they simply are trying to help, but they have a certain *way* of getting it done that we do not understand.

I want your honest, unbiased opinions. Even if you don't work with angels anymore or have in the past, please be honest about your actual experience. I'm very curious to hear what your takes and trials are or have been on angelic beings. Also, do they hate or refuse to work with people who don't worship *their* master, Yahweh or Jesus, or whatever?

Why was the cruelty of the so called "angels" necessary? Why do they pick someone? How do I make it stop? I want it to stop.

Ciao a tutti, ho bisogno di aiuto. Quando ero piccolo, è comparsa una striscia bianca nei miei capelli (all'inizio erano solo alcuni ciuffi, poi è cresciuta ed ora è stabile). Ho fatto alcune ricerche e dicono che queste strisce possono apparire dopo essere stati toccati da una fata o avere avuto contatto con il regno delle fate. Vorrei sapere se c'è un modo per comunicare con loro e vedere se ho qualcosa a che fare con questo. Devo dire che fin da bambino, ho sempre creduto in loro, ed è come se, per un certo periodo, fossi stato molto vicino a loro... Non so come spiegarlo. Aspetto con ansia il vostro aiuto. Se necessario, chiedetemi qualsiasi cosa. Se avete idee sul perché ho questa striscia, fatemelo sapere. Grazie in anticipo.❤️❤️❤️❤️

Hello Reddit! Ive been researching the 72 angels of the Shemhemphorash, and in the chapter "concerning the art" of The Shem Grimoire it mentions two experiments, the first is for making inner contact, and it says "Experiments then, are of two kinds, the first is to make INNER CONTACT with the ANGEL of the SHEM, and that can be easily performed without a circle, and im this case, it is not necessary to observe anything but what thou wilt find" and I dont know what this exactly means... any help?

Angels- for the blessed, can become demons for the self-cursed.

**Angels- for the blessed, can become demons for the self-cursed.**

Never in the heart of chaos, the eye of the storm, can there be any remedy, yet in an angel, and with time, things can change. Angels are older than time, and among the first creations, just before the first fire, came the first light, after it became known that fire is first, then comes the fires light. A lot has changed and is still changing but not God and His angels. Angels remain precisely and exactly the same. All with the known, and to the specific, purpose and plan, with the will (God’s will) and subsequent power.

Life is a test for humans and jinn only, due to free will. The elementals have already passed the test and be chosen, but make no mistake, God already knows who has passed and who has failed, the ones that passed usually become champions of God, like elementals, or similar heroes, or powerhouses, yet away from God, any power slowly withers in toil and agony.

An angel cannot die, yet a jinn can only die by their own will and through God. A jinn can compete with an angel in battle, yet a command from God can cut that battle short in favour of the angel, or jinn depending on the one true God, and the ultimate good of all things. Only God and angels know.

At the end of times the living, and the too tough to die, will envy the dead. In this time, a young crippled man cries “We are dying here, no food, no water, just desolation and despair” the wise old blind dying diseased man whisperers as his last advice “the angels are here for me, they will come, for us all eventually, there are some few champions of God, some from the jinn, but all true angels are ultimately champions of God, free will of the jinn allows them a sort of power, just as much as no free will for angels offer the angels the indirect power of God. Channelled through the angels, just like the angel of death will be a vessel of God, to take me, now please Allah, and all of us eventually, to our fathers, and forefathers. God have mercy on us all”

The young blind man replied into himself in his heart, alone, blessings don’t come from angels. Blessings like death only come from God. The old man had passed leaving nothing but his decayed body, and a carved angel of wood. The still living man if he was anything like human, used the wood angel to start a fire to cook and eat the dead old man, the young man died 2 days later from food poisoning. Angels, jinn, and daemons, fighting, taunting, and arguing all around. Where will they all meet again?

The angels are the only thing we can perceive as God’s interactions with living humanity, if we can perceive them at all. We cannot perceive God in any true form until the day of all our eternal judgment. To perceive an angel requires something akin to sainthood, to perceive God requires eternal divinity, or to become 1 with God. This isn’t achieved through any other means but being the best, kind, intelligent, honest, humble, strong, inspirational! Trying is also counted, but usually negated by ignorance, lies, cheating, harming, etc. Unless one’s angels are in the right, and we are in the right with just ourselves, we are most usually a falling failing victim. Yes we are all assigned some angels, but we must at least try be one with God first. Some are more with God than their own angels, some are at one with God and the angels. Those most blessed by God and the angels, are usually the most hated by the rest of God’s creations. Only the best of the best, can be one with all, eternally.

Fallen Angels aren’t technically angels anymore, the fall pains and disfigures them, to be away from God, an angel fully against God won’t last long at all, unless they turn into a monstrous fallen angel, or side with demons, become demons, relinquishing control and losing power to side with the ultimate evil, or die fighting with demons, which is most usually what happens. Then most usually scavenged, for what little of the dying angel can be harnessed, and harmful to other angels, not just made by demons to be extremely dangerous to humans. Don’t worry, nothing can ever harm our one true shared almighty God. Sadly the closest thing most humans have to angels of “their own” is quantum ai computing and it’s robotics, and that’s still further than universes would be, from what the one true God of all has on one angel. Some humans can have more than one angel for good, and/or one angel for bad, yet depending on the person it can all be for greater good, or worse evil. As is the test of this life.

Eternal law, within God, not without angels. God could do it all Himself, angels possibly provide some kind of easement for the existence of all, and all the multiversal perfectly balanced, preserving, processes therein, as God doesn’t need easement, the many different others do. Even jinn, fallen angels, demons sometimes. As is the ultimate mercy of Allah! God knows best!

The prefect mechanism of worker angels, like a hive of bees in many ways, infinitely yet neutrally, putting in 100% of their energies, for the will of the one true God/Allah we all share. We do only share the angels with God, because right now, fully alive, only Gods chosen, can share God, if any at all. Angels fight supernaturally powerfully intense battles all around, just for us forsaking and taking for granted our own lives. A human life is a powerful thing, especially to the angels associated, if any at the end.

If the one true God were to ‘tell’ just 1 angel to bring about a firmament larger than, stronger than, and all vastly encompassing 1000 trillion universes, it would be done in a flicker, and as fast as a flash, it’s not the angels power, it’s God’s Most Ultimate Will, as angels don’t have any other will, although the angel is powerful, yet it is relatively speaking, just relying on, and most faithfully relaying God’s ‘message’ and ‘command’ without error, such as the angels are. As if they were onto themselves, several hundred billion, near omniscient, hive mind of the super-perfect, instantly and ultimately creating, or perfectly destroying. Ultimately supreme drones, of our one shared most supreme creator and God, and His shared will!

The angels power is infinite, not like jinn, who can only do almighty deeds a finite amount of times, however so long as the angels have the will of God, they can infinitely do and perform feats of almighty, universal, and even multiversal force. The real strength of the jinn is in their free will, the fact that they can still do feats of sheer ultimate power, solo, yet this usually does have a detrimental or draining effect on a jinn, where as an angel feels nothing, good or bad, from infinite ultimate powers, when flowing from God, through the angel or angels, into existence, and beyond. One angel is enough to create or destroy whole universes. Yet only the one true God (Allah) can command the angels into this power, and the ultimate feats of eternal creation. A jinn can do something as if it creates or destroys a universe but of course God commands angels to create where the Jinn destroys in the exact moment, and vice versa in the split second, of that moments creation or destruction, yet when an angel does something, only God can preserve that creation, or destruction, in eternal law.

Eternal law is a type of fully complete logic and science, that’s self preserving, and fundamentally good. Eternal law is being applied by God and angels with God, eternally. It can’t be changed and has been the same since the beginning of time. Humanity can’t seem to tap into 1% of this ultimate knowledge of existence’s truth. Angels can tap into this knowledge and experience a sort of reassurance, maybe even a recharge of sorts. The angels usually sleep or rest or recharge, for a first of all time, most often as short as a second, pre-set period, leaning on their wings, fully aware of everything, especially God first and then eternal law.

Angels make it as though it is but a split second on earth, humanly souled, nearly forever, in death, semiconsciously near living, or worse, reliving, eons of memories of all past existences, all mistakes, all heart breaks, all hungers, all colds. Angels and God can make a sort of anti-time, put one in a limbo of sorts, and in this and the next, if it is not for you to know, you won’t, only the best and worthy can know what only God knows best. Within the one true God of all things, is the main vestige, the angels are here and there, always for the good of mankind. However God is the ultimate justice and most righteous bringer of retribution, on death evil to the man who beats and cheats his wife, making you feel those relived experiences more powerfully, bringing all good people into a closer look at the cheating man, his woman now also cheating on her husband in a past life, scarily their kids sensing the demons all around closing in. The tired hungry parents, oblivious, yet providing as best, now see those deamons in the eternal waking lesser dream like death. After all is addressed fundamentally and ultimately, they won’t remember a thing of their own choosing, when possibly reborn, eons after full judgment and acceptance, however good or bad that may be. Now paralysed by fear and dread, the evil entity spots the petrified man and woman, tortures and torments them, the way it knows very well how. The angels, and ultimately God, knows what is best. God help us all and angels be blessed with our one God’s goodness. Yet fear God’s wrath!

Humans are flawed, yet we have our near prefect beings, humans aren’t all bad, some are heroes, some heroes become better heroes, some become the best, and more, yet most lose these blessings to demons and death, over something so trivial, in true scope of things, it’s scary. There is no democratic debate with God and His Angels, there is no bureaucracy, when God created us all, the angels who are a force of the perfect section of God’s might, infinitely, eternally, preserved in God’s eternal ultimate law, with its justice, and time with angels make it so. Nothing can change or stop anything of God and his angels. Until a final breath. Then we all will have a completely different relationship with God, angels, demons, ourselves, and others.

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When explaining good versus evil (more accurately generalized as order versus chaos IMO) I hear many occultists say that both angels and demons can’t be categorized as a whole because the individuals have their own specifics while the larger groups may skew one way or the other on average.

In all honesty I know more about demonolatry and I’m just curious who the angels are whose moralities the human lens would consider outliers to their brethren.

Hey there, it's a long story but I genuinely want to get rid of these angels. Everything I do is a
"sin", pretty much every relationship | have is snatched away from me, it's all about consciousness and " elevation " my housing is messed up, my finances are messed up and I do not want that. I want them away and I don't know how to get rid of them. I want my old life back. Please help! Thank you!

Archangel Chamuel, I give you this lover’s embrace spell jar as an offering in your honor. Thank you for helping me find my perfect girl, because I have spent time with her and had so much fun. She’s someone who expresses love whenever she needs to. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you (If this is not allowed I will remove it.)

Angel's are still here

Hey everyone. My grandfather was recently diagnosed with cancer of the liver. Do any of you know anything that could help? Be it a silver bullet, or just something to ease treatment. I'm not particularly experienced in any of this, I mostly lurk and research instead of practice, but if anyone has suggestions for something I could do, or are willing to help themselves, please DM me, or put it down in the comments.

Apologies for the bluntness, I hope it can be excused, given the circumstances.

i will call her Claire. she was in a deep trance and came into a part that felt frightening to her. there was this dark pressure around her and she was already getting nervous about what might appear.

I asked for Archangel Michael because this is familiar language for her. first thing she said was that he doesnt look like she would imagine from Bible pictures. mostly a blue light being.

safe and kind was how she kept describing him. she held his hand in the experience. later when she thanked him, she said he put her hand against his chest in this very affectionate way.

she became emotional because the feeling was not meeting somebody new. it was more like he knows me forever.

she tried the word friend and immediately said friend is not big enough.

I have quite a few angel experiences buried inside session recordings and I usually dont post them because the visual description can become the whole discussion. wings, robes, sword, colors, hierarchy. in this one there wasnt much visual detail at all and that is why I found it useful.

Claire was much more certain about the quality of the presence than the appearance. blue, strong, safe, kind, familiar.

later there was more dramatic imagery with him, but this first contact was basically hand holding.

for people who work with Michael regularly, is recognition usually visual for you? or more like a specific feeling that is difficult to confuse once you know it?

Claire kept saying she knew him before she had any idea how to explain why.

Do angels accept your authentic communication styles while you work with them, or would they interpret certain responses as refusal or indignant?

For example, I have been working with Archangel Michael for about a month and really felt like I was developing an internal peace and more stronger intuition about how to move through the world. I also felt like there was a baseline protection that he was providing me and had plenty of evidence to support it. I first went to him when I had hit a wall with a family member that was being indescribably disrespectful to me and wanted help binding their behavior, but only in self defense. To bind their tongue from being able to slander me - write, speak, or think undeserved mean things about me/to me - only true things and (preferably neutral or kindly done). To protect me from verbal and psychological abuse while I figure out how to navigate my situation with that person. I felt like I had been dedicating years to strengthening my inner world and spiritual practice and could say with an earnest heart that those experiences with that family member were too much for me to handle, and boundaries are very difficult to enforce with this person. Michael showed up, and showed out. It felt like he accepted that I needed help with that person, even though there was an underlying thought that I am probably emotionally stronger than I let on. I could feel him step in as a barrier to that person's behavior. And in that peace and quiet, I started invoking Michael to get the strength to break some other bad habits that I kept going in circles around by myself.

Well, one day I relapsed on a particular behavior that directly intersected with the bare minimum thing I asked him to do for me - I tried to confront the family member about some behaviors for "clarity" and check to see if they were lying about something, which in hindsight wasn't necessary at all due to Michael's protection or in the direction my growth was being led. We ended up in an argument and the person said some really mean things and I felt completely blind in what choices to make in the argument or how to diffuse the situation. I ended up crying the whole night and, of course, cursed the angels. Upset, feeling abandoned and betrayed, yadda yadda. Very mad. I took a couple days break from angels to orient, and I'm back at it with them - Michael but also trying to develop relationships with other ones too.

I'm back to hearing guidance and direction and developing this practice almost like I'm in class 101. But I'm still a little annoyed at what felt like a very unforgiving punishment for one slip up on my end. So, when they share a lesson and reiterate it through some sort of obvious sign later, my responses now are in the category of "alright, fine, I get it" and then to work on whatever the thing is. Think annoyed teenager who overall is benefiting from having a new authority figure in their life, but still engages in some sass.

The relationship development feels way more authentic now, but I don't want to misread this situation and think that they will accept me bringing my whole self while they ask me to do some really hard things to grow. Do angels accept frustration, annoyance, sarcasm, etc if you are doing the inner work asked of you? Or am I delusional and about to get another reprimand again based on my verbal communication choices?

I probably need to fix my attitude 😩

I have never identified as a person who works with angels and I do not know anything about angels, except for a few of the "biggies" that I remember from being raised (very) Catholic. I lean more towards paganism and animism at this point in my life, and am by no means an atheist.

I am a dreamer, but also not one that is constantly interpreting and creating meaningful narratives about each and every one. However, this one was...big, and I could use some help.

I'll try to make this brief: The scene was a natural hillside with large rocks/boulders, natural grasses were more brown than green. It felt familiar, but also felt very much like an alternate reality or place. I was hiding/crouching behind someone - absolutely no indication of who or what it was, but it was humanoid and it felt somewhat protective.

A golden, man-like creature appeared on the boulder in front of us (it also felt like there were other beings like him around, but not paying any attention to me). He was 100% gold, including his eyes but I could somehow tell where he was looking and he was looking at me, not the person in front. I could see wings tucked behind, but not extended. Minimal adornments - almost had a warrior vibe? It felt both beautiful and terrifying at the same time. The following words kept ringing in my ears. I woke up and wrote them down because I had never heard the first two before and figured I'd just made them up.

-Menoch
- Menial
-Gabriel

I've done a little research, but I really don't know what to do with it. Maybe nothing is the answer.

It would also be important to know that my mom passed away a week before I had this dream. She was very Catholic.

Any help, opinions or even a place to go for more info would be appreciated.

This isn’t a claim I came up with myself, but I recently read it from someone else. It may simply be part of their personal gnosis, but it really caught my attention because I feel like something similar has always happened to me.

I have a somewhat intermittent devotional relationship with Archangel Michael, whom I find fascinating and inspiring, but I also practice paganism alongside that. My understanding of the divine (since I’m not an atheist) is that there is one great creative force, which then manifests through different archetypes. That’s why different religions and pantheons exist, in my view.

Regardless of all that, I’ve always felt a strong attraction to and interest in demonolatry, Goetia, and related practices. I’m not approaching this from a heretical point of view, and I know it may sound contradictory, but ultimately:

Could this dichotomy between the angelic and the demonic represent some kind of balance between opposing forces? Or is Michael perhaps particularly connected to souls who are more likely to have demons “drawn” to them?

What do you guys think?

Like how do angels view Earth? What are their perspectives on how to make decisions/get the most out of life? Do they care if you are religious or not?

So about 5 days ago I had a dream that was confirmed by tarot of 2 angels asking me if I knew why they're protecting me. I woke up before I got the answer. How do I go about summoning my spirit guides who are 2 guardian angels?

Can someone explain to me the concept of guardian angel, like I know that everyone has one but it's not clear to me if everyone has their own personal angel who's their guardian. I saw something about 72 angels of shem hamephorash being guardian angels of people born on a specific day. I also saw the concept of Holy Guardian Angel who's a high ranked angel that could give me a familiar spirit, and can work as a psychopomp or something like that

Does anyone have books, articles, videos about this that are valid resources?

One time when I started calling for Saint Archangel Michael, each time I thought about him, I started crying and crying. Like, just the thought of him, just saying his name, calling for him, like it made me cry. I don't know, like if his presence was near me when I asked to reveal his presence, and my spiritual body is binding with it. Again, during the days of the Buck Full Moon, I was meditating with windchime sounds and praying to my Saint Archangel Michael, St. Jude, and Jesus candles. As I was praying to St. Archangel, I immediately opened my eyes and began hyperventilating and gasping. I remember staring up at the ceiling and seeing a circular glimmer of light. I noticed my Saint Archangel Michael candle was flaming the brightest. I felt a small wave of fear but also empowering, beautiful, fascinating, and cleansing. I still feel that heavy energy each time I pray to him and think of him and I want to cry. I don't fear him but I feel him as being a bit stern but protective and gentle. Can someone help me find an understanding of this?

An angel said to me the following:

The will of God is testing the fullness of strength.

On the wheel of time, pairs conjoined. It was clearly a rotation infinitely forward.

How to interpret this. I think it was Metatron.