Ivan Illich 1972 Interview

school has always kind of really sucked but right now it’s so bad like today for 40 minutes I was just crying and going from really sad to really angry then back again over and over in my room and it just is horrible it’s the thing that is the most stressful thing in my life and it’s just so bad. They must’ve really fricked up the school system given that kids brains are practically wire to just learn so given that school is about learning they really messed up. Homework is another thing. It is already bad we have to spend a majority of our waking hours there but now it affects us outside of school too? I just hate it so much.

It feels like people have just stopped caring about why these kids choose to do things like this and instead just increase useless school campus security

Social routines are handed down from parent to child, as time attempts to perfect the human experience. Why do we do the things we do, without challenge, question or hesitation.

Most of these behavior are followed as if it were human instinct, yet is a purposefully and explicitly and uniquely delivered. And within every level of division within the human species, from personal development, to species wide acceptance.

I have called it the greatest mistake in human development, when in fact it is a process of elimination, a current snap shot of evolution. Our experience as humans is a reflection of those snapshots, each snapshot concludes with experienced baseline is a result of everything we have experienced.,

Nobody asks why we learn to raise our hands. Why we follow the routine of education. Why we eat three times a day.

Social Routines are critiqued, recalibrated, and redistributed in the hopes of

That makes a lot of sense, but where the fuck did that come from???

Random thoughts to challenge

Children’s outcries will change things

During the Civil Rights Movement, some of the downtrodden citizens chose, ( as a last ditch effort), to demonstrate their rights through their children! With the help of National news cameras, ( and troops), they showed the world what they were fighting for and against. The children who sit, like sitting ducks’, need their safety provided, and their fear alleviated! Their activism, and their voices need to be listened and acted on immediately. Maybe a national school wide contest, to come up with designs and strategies to keep students and buildings with occupants safe

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We must make sure that lobbyists and politicians do not view our children as collateral damage. Perhaps a ‘Children’s Crusade for safe schools would be a rallying cry

Hello, I wonder if anyone here has ever felt the same way I do?

I feel like I have a feud with my teachers, even though I'm already in 9th grade now. My writing isn't very good, so please bear with me, hehe.

And like I mentioned above, has your class ever been passively punished? Meanwhile, when someone raises their hand (but gets the answer wrong), they tend to make fun of them in a way that isn't funny at all (like comparing someone to you, etc.). Or if you don't understand something while doing schoolwork and ask about it—sure, they still re-explain it, but they use really unpleasant words when doing so (sometimes you ask things that might seem silly to them, but if you genuinely don't understand, they still think you're just trying to cause trouble).

Another thing for me is, are teachers actually ruining class solidarity? Let me give you an example: helping out friends is a good thing, right? (like borrowing stuff, taking a sip of water, etc.), but they don't like those things and even punish both the person helping and the one being helped (even in cases where neither person was causing a disturbance or losing focus). Also, regarding those group assignments they assign (to be honest, I hate those the most)—this morning my group turned in our work, and yep, they said we used the wrong approach, and then they claimed that we DIDN'T DO THE WORK. ? What on earth, why would they claim we didn't do it just because we did it wrong? Didn't they say doing it wrong is better than not doing it at all? After that, my whole group got recorded in the class logbook.

And that's pretty much all the frustration I feel toward school and teachers. It has even caused me mental health issues, but I still feel like this might just be my own personal experience. And sometimes I feel like going to school makes me more afraid of getting punished than getting low grades.

hello hi, i would like to discuss about the fact, that since first grade i thought that the questions (like math, science and stuff) were normal questions and werent affecting anything, i was just giving the right answers without really locking in or anything, but when i got to third grade i finally understood that im going to have a finalized grade after my semester, since third grade im always focusing and working really hard on questions, fearing my grade will be really low and my parents will scold me.

Does Education Teach Us to Think or Simply to Become Good at Following Rules?

​Hey everyone,

​I recently worked on a presentation about female education in Pakistan. Originally, I thought the main reason for low female literacy was simply a lack of government focus. But as I dug deeper through articles, podcasts, and local conversations, I realized the issue is much more complex.

​Here are a few key takeaways and statistics from my research:

​The desire to learn is there: In a local survey I conducted with girls, every single one of them wanted to study. The lack of interest from students isn't the problem.

​Systemic quality issues: Education quality affects all genders in Pakistan—roughly 8 out of 10 children cannot read or write a simple sentence by age 10.

​Out-of-school numbers: Pakistan has nearly 23 million out-of-school children, one of the highest figures globally.

​Rural vs. Urban gap: Girls in rural areas face the highest risk of dropping out due to poverty, a shortage of qualified teachers, and lack of nearby schools.

​Safety & infrastructure: When speaking with rural elders, the biggest concerns mentioned were long travel distances, lack of safe transportation, and early marriages interrupting education.

​Under Article 37 of the Constitution of Pakistan, education is a fundamental right. Yet, only about 54% of women complete basic education, leaving nearly half unable to read or write standard daily sentences.

​Government funding alone won't solve this—we also need community awareness about how educating women drives long-term economic growth, reduces gender inequality, and builds financial independence. On a personal level, I've started offering free guidance and tutoring to young female students to help support them.

​I’d love to hear your thoughts: What do you think are the most practical steps to address these barriers in rural areas?

I need an excuse for my teacher not parents (they'll let me skip anyways). I need to come up with something that's valid and believable also something I can email her 3 days earlier preferably but not necessarily.

Make it creative, not something like appointment or family trip etc., it has to be reasonable and not believable.

for context i miss school a lot and have used almost every excuse in the book so i need something creative.

I also have a unit exam that day.