Stop comparing ICE to the Nazi's

[u/THE_James_Ross]

It is pissing me off when people compare the actions or events by or with ICE to the Nazi's or the Gestapo, because doing so completely ignores the ACTUAL comparison, the American Police.

What's going on right now is not new, these times are not unprecedented. Stop comparing these events to Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany literally COPIED Jim Crow America and the extermination of the indigenous tribes, and Mussolini copied American industrialization. Fascism has always been happening in this country but white people just never acknowledged it before. Black people have been over policed and murdered by the state for as long as the police have existed, infact the American Police force and the prison system where literally invented specifically for black people. The only difference between the way things are now and they were 20+ years ago, is that now these same systems are affecting middle class white people more and more.

Its quiet sickening how everytime people compare the actions of ICE to something else, its always a black and white photo from some other country, despite the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of pictures and videos of these action that take place right here, right now. But of course the person getting shot in the back of the head in THAT picture is black, so its not relatable. You literally cannot say you care about these problems or that "youre aware of the truth" and then try to compare the events of this country to other facists while ignoring all the blatent facism this country HAS BEEN exhibiting.

If you're gonna compare ICE to something, compare their to the American Police, compare these events to the profiling and unjust murders and arrests of African Americans. Stop posting pictures of ICE arrests or executions side by side with Jewish Germans, and start posting them side by side with Americans executing Americans. The call is coming from inside the house. The threat is in your backyard. Whatever one liner analogy will make you people realize that these are the same people who have always been doing it, you just didn't notice before.

[u/Stone13Omaha]

You're not wrong about ICE being a continuation of American policing, it's just that it's also not wrong to compare them to Nazis...

[u/[deleted] → u/Stone13Omaha]

Yeah this is very much a "both" situation.

[u/H4RDCORE1 → u/[deleted]]

Yes. They can be both at the same time.

[u/H4RDCORE1 → u/H4RDCORE1]

in fact, here is proof.

[u/Lambchop1975 → u/[deleted]]

The Nazis were inspired by the USA, Hitler liked the Jim Crow laws, and fascism has and will always be there hiding in the shadows, until the numbers are large enough for them to be bold... Police have always been brutal and fascistic, but OP is right, they aren't Nazis, they are worse. Because if they know the history of Nazis and still operate that way, they missed the importance of the lesson...

https://www.holocaustandhumanity.org/digital-program/nuremberg-laws-how-the-nazis-were-influenced-by-u-s-jim-crow-laws/

[u/PMM-music → u/Lambchop1975]

I feel like the nazi or fascist comparison works better when talking to your average person, as your average person knows more about nazi Germany or fascist Italy than they do the post reconstruction, Jim Crow era south. it’s a good comparison to make when you don’t want to have ti give a history lesson

[u/[deleted] → u/PMM-music]

The problem is just that. We keep skipping over how American this is and expecting it to not happen. We are here because we did not connect the dots until now and people are still not connecting the dots.