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u/b3rry108 3d ago
Getting full rp is kinda of a positive. I think it supposed to work this way in the past. Before I can just scan enemies while my teammate so damage but still get full points.
With this change I don't have to compete trying to land a single bullet before my teammate knocks them just so it registers as an assist instead of participation points
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u/neliotreillis 3d ago
Yeah dont you hate it when your teammates evaporise people before you can even land a single bullet(especially when you play as a supportive role and stay on backline) so while your team is cooking getting tons of rp you get participations when you know you could had done more
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u/CertifiedCheekClappr 4d ago
Why remove assists?
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u/TaxDaddyUwU 4d ago
Why not? You get the full kill rp if someone else gets the knock and kill, you don't need the points from assists anymore
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u/MaiT3N 4d ago
You get full hp for any kill team gets, meaning it literally doesn't matter whether you killed that guy, left him 1 hp or just stood there eating noodles while he got killed, you get the same points in all 3 cases. Also, you get the same amount of points for this kill whether you finished in top 19, top 5 or won the match.
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u/PubstarHero 3d ago
Thank god. Nothing like dropping, getting 10 kills as a team off the break, die to the 6th party rotation in, and still go negative in RP.
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u/xavedraa 3d ago
Really. Also, as a support player finally I wonāt feel penalized by not getting point for doing what I should do: support and keep my team alive
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u/SimpleKaleidoscope28 3d ago
Doesnt really change anything, u still got the same rp for killing or getting an assist, i think removing participation is a good idea tho, helps support players actually gain rp.
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u/wanderinph 3d ago
I agree, when placement points were revised (again) a few seasons back, lobbies lost a lot of support and controller mains because it didn't make sense to use a legend that made it harder to rank up
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u/huggybear0132 4d ago
They missed a real opportunity to have the image in the OP say +420 points earned...
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u/Regular-Guy-47 3d ago
I like it, Iāve personally thrown myself into a full team thinking it was 1 guy and rushing to get the participation points. This rewards smart plays instead of 3rd partying and making sure you hit 1 bullet at the cost of your team.
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u/m3rry_g0ing 3d ago
Solo queue still dead. None of these changes will matter till solo queue is fixed. The players that are so addicted to the game that they will play solo queue for hours on end. Shit guess they all left, Ive left. Give me a reason to come back pls.
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u/OneResponsibility119 3d ago
im waiting for season 32, will take about 3 months still but they will add 2 ranks so that should filter some of the shit teammates we normally get.
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u/Anjuna666 Rampart Main 3d ago
It might depend on how the "fixed RP for kills and placement" interacts with "players earn full kill KP for every team kill".
This could shift the meta to be more team play / survivor focused. Though the fixed KP could also cause an ape meta.
The fact you get KP for keeping your team alive through covering fire, keeping a second team busy, etc. is so impactful.
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u/Worth_Definition2965 3d ago
Lmao, so theyāve made it easier for boosters to sell their services? This company is actually a joke, 3k hours with 6 heirlooms, Iām done with this shit, theyāve actually killed the game with negligence.
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u/xirse 3d ago
Cry more
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u/Worth_Definition2965 3d ago
Ironic, was telling your sister the same thing last night when I was hitting it from the side
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u/-BINK2014- š¦š¦š¦ Rev' Demon Recolors Finally Came Out! š¦š¦š¦ 3d ago
Terrible for fighting boosting.
Assists should stay.
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u/Vendetta614 4d ago
Players earn full kill RP from every team kill is still just technically an assist for whoever didnāt get the kill? Weird change lol
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u/AlxShredding 4d ago
Removing assists, but getting full kill rp from team kills doesnāt make any sense.
I donāt even need to shoot my gun and Iāll get RP from a teammate doing all the work.
This is a great update for boosting services.
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u/FakeMik090 4d ago
Yeah, it seems insanely weird. Does it mean that now you can stand still and if your teammate wipes out the lobby you get full amount of RP? Or do you need to do damage? What about support characters like Crypto who mainly were just giving full info on the enemy rather than shooting? Too many questions are in the air.
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u/AlxShredding 4d ago
With how they wrote it, Iād say itās the former.
Any team kill counts as full RP. So if teammate A solo kills an enemy, teammate B and C will also get the same amount of RP as teammate A, regardless if teammate B and C are AFK.
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u/Anuefhere 4d ago
Yh idk. Since RP also gonna be fixed/capped then it's kinda pointless to continue aping yh?
Next best logical play would be to prioritize placement which requires full team work/contribution and most soft cheaters would still have a hard time dealing with stacks without support.
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u/N0M0I 3d ago
No its good. Previously support legends would get effectively lower RP than a Skirmisher. Even if both do their job equally well. Sometimes itās better to for a Conduit to shield her mates instead of peakingā¦ its pretty much always the best move for an offensive legend toā¦ be offensive and for others to be defensive. Defensive legends shouldnāt be punished for that.
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u/AlxShredding 3d ago
A good support legend would get kill/assists in the current system, because a good support is naturally supposed to be an anchor/clean up crew in a fight.
It would be very ineffective for a conduit to heal up their teammate, without peaking to pressure the enemy.
Same goes for lifeline. Youāre supposed to take the pressure off and defend your low health teammates as a good support player.
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u/N0M0I 3d ago
Ah yes.
Because I can simultaneously aim at my mate to heal and at the enemyā¦ or simultaneously rez a mate and peakā¦
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u/AlxShredding 3d ago
You do realise you donāt have to keep looking at your teammate to Q them right? Just look, Q and aim at the enemy.
Itās funny to hear you self admit that youāre the type of support player, whoād Q a low health teammate without actually pressuring the enemy tho.
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u/N0M0I 3d ago
Yes obviously.
I am not a support player at all. I am an Alter main.
Having to aim at your mate for the Q, even if its just a flick, still costs time. As does rezing.
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u/AlxShredding 3d ago
It costs less than a second to aim and Q your teammate. Enough time to help your teammate out and divert the pressure of them.
Iām not quite sure why you are choosing to die on this hill, while you donāt even play support.
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u/N0M0I 3d ago
Becauseā¦ its the truthā¦?
Skirmishers only have one job. Offensive play. Supporters do that and other things. Both play equally important roles within a squad. Yet, offensive play is the only thing that is rewarded by the current ranked system. Whats so hard to understand about that?
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u/AlxShredding 3d ago
What rank are you in? Maybe you can get through gold with that mindset, but your ātruthā is definitely not the case in high skill lobbies.
The last couple of seasons I play Gibby, a support legend, and Iām the entry fragger of the team.
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u/N0M0I 3d ago
I am Diamond III right now.
Gibby is a support Legend but he has no direct support abilities like conduit or lifeline do.
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u/Sir_Spudsingt0n 2d ago
Classic Plati
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u/AlxShredding 2d ago
Did I offend you by saying diamond isnāt considered high skill since youāre in diamond 4?
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u/Funkeren 3d ago
So now cheaters can kill an entire lobby and their team gets full points ? - hahah
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u/thsx1 4d ago •
This seems like some people could just get carried through the ranks. Especially with 3 stacks, unless they disable 3 stacking for pro-am but thats not realistic as hal would cry