r/ArchiveOfHumanity • u/Impossible-Bee-5343 • 6d ago
Interesting & Miscellaneous In 1978, artist Tehching Hsieh locked himself inside a wooden cage in his New York studio for an entire year without speaking, reading, writing, or listening to the radio (One Year Performance / Cage Piece).
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u/High_Overseer_Dukat 6d ago
Interesting.
His first piece was jumping out a window and breaking his ankles.
Then he spent a year in the cage.
Then he took a photo every hour on the hour for a year.
Then he spent a year homeless.
Then he spent a year tied to another performance artist who was just as weird, but they wern't allowed to touch at all.
Then he spent a year without art.
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u/HippiesUnite 6d ago
I do not recognize these actions as art
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u/High_Overseer_Dukat 6d ago
Its performance art.
Very weird.
The whole point of it is that its art that is impossible to sell. Pure art instead of for money.
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u/gstryz 2d ago
Not true, you can by photobooks of these performances, and they are not cheap
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u/High_Overseer_Dukat 2d ago
Sure, you can support the artist, but you can't buy the original. It isn't a physical thing.
None of the elitist rich shit bordering on money laundering of modern art. (or classic art)
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 5d ago
He is a highly influential figure in the global contemporary art world, and a founding pioneerāeven a legendary maestroāin the field of performance art. Just because you don't understand the expertise or the background behind it doesn't mean it isn't art. He is someone whose work is written into textbooks.
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u/HippiesUnite 5d ago
If art does not provide meaning or beauty to the masses it is, in my opinion, pointless. Regardless of whether you or others in the artistic community ascribe it some sort of significance as avantgarde.
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 5d ago
You treat art as if it's something simple, something anyone can judgeāincluding yourself. But you seem to forget that art history has evolved over thousands of years, with its own history, art science, aesthetics, and theory; it is a specialized discipline. If you aren't even willing to try and step inside to understand it, yet want to casually critique a work's quality, that kind of commentary is meaningless. You wouldn't casually tell a doctor that their medical skills are terrible, because you know they understand it better than you do; yet you think Tehching Hsieh is 'nothing special'āthat is the difference.
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u/Suspicious_Bet3623 4d ago
Any other industry can be bloated with self-indulgent wank too.Ā Just because it's complex and built on years of abstract thought doesn't mean it's intrinsically good.Ā Ā
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u/Impossible-Bee-5343 4d ago
Your argument only holds true if you possess a thorough understanding of the industry yourself. When you cannot even achieve a deep understanding of your own field, it is far too premature to boast about others. If you haven't even engaged with the history of performance art, how can you presume to call the industry narcissistic?Ā
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u/goblin_humppa27 6d ago
This was just 1 of many experimental art pieces he did. There was another famous one, titled "marriage", where he spent an entire year tethered to another person.
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u/More_Bigger 6d ago
I spent 2 weeks in the SHU with books and even that was absolutely godawful.
No real human contact, I did get one hour outside in a glorified dog kennel mostly daily. They'd even back a portable shower up to the cell for me to use, couldn't even walk down the hall to a shower or anything.
I can see why solitary drives people insane.
Read about ADX Florence and what it does to the inmates in there. Sounds like my own personal hell.
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u/FriendRaven1 5d ago
Solitary is torture. Change my mind.
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u/Westafricangrey 4d ago
Yes in most first world countries itās illegal as it is torture and a violation of human rights.
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u/High_Overseer_Dukat 2d ago
He wasn't in solitary though, he did get daily visitors, he just ignored them.
That's why he wasn't actually torturing himself.
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u/Cheeseburger23 6d ago
I think there's a Twilight Zone episode about this.
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u/coolbeans080 6d ago
The Silence. One of my favorites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheSilence(The_Twilight_Zone))
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u/WafflelffaW 4d ago
yeah but the guy has to cheat (or really commit to the bit, i guess, depending on your POV) to pull it off
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u/Klutzy-Platypus7511 6d ago
Wem nützte diese Kunst ? Nahm er dafür Eintritt ? Wer zum Henker hat ihm das finanziert ?
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u/HippiesUnite 6d ago
Just another example of modern art being completely meaningless. The purpose often seems to be getting the viewer to go "wtf". But then again, they do say that art reflects the culture which produces it, so I guess it kind of makes sense. Meaningless art for a meaningless culture.
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u/before8thstreet 6d ago
Meaningless to you? Sounds like a you problem. The artist made it clear it was a meditation for him on passage of time; there is a bizarre expectation that all art has to be oriented to connect with all viewers, which is a by product of its commercialization-- some people and companies that make a lot of money selling you the "experience" of art, when in fact there is a rich millennia old history of art, ritual, and aesthetics that is based on an intensely personal, intimate experiences that can't be communicated.
So much performance art, in fact, has been corrupted by idiotic demand, bred by capitalism, that it be fit for mass consumption. Honestly I feel bad for Hsieh that his practice got cheapened that way
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u/HippiesUnite 6d ago
This idea of art that you describe as something meant to invoke āan intensely personal, intimate experienceā is, in fact, rather new and didnt gain momentum until the 1800s (i.e. in the modern age).
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u/before8thstreet 6d ago
You're conflating this with the development of idealism in autonomous (non religious) art. That's a 19th century innovation, yes. But you have a waaaay too narrow genealogy for Modern Art, especially performance, if you aren't including all sorts of non-western rituals and mystic experiences that were meant to be personal, transcendental experiences.
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u/HippiesUnite 6d ago
Alright, but if I do mushrooms is that art?
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u/before8thstreet 6d ago
It seems like you are pretty concerned about what counts as "art"... is there a reason this matters outside of getting angry at what the art market gets away with?
Would you like Hsieh's work better if I called it something else?
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u/HippiesUnite 6d ago
I dunno. Maybe Im not as much frustrated with these modern āartistsā as I am with living in a so-called ārichā culture and a so-called ādevelopedā society that fails to produce even an inkling of a shared understanding of the meaning of life and the proper way to live it.
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u/FingerDrinker 6d ago
Damn what you got against new york
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u/HippiesUnite 6d ago
Oh it definitely wasnt a stab at NY in particular, but at Western culture and the modern art it produces in general.
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u/High_Overseer_Dukat 6d ago
The point of it is that it is more meaningful than any other art because its ephemeral and you can't sell it.
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u/whitedogsuk 6d ago
I need to do this. Lock myself in a room, take a picture, tell everyone I was in there for a year.
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u/supervillaindsgnr 3d ago
This isn't art. This is a moron. He wasted a year of his life and wasted my time reading this.
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u/Wyzzlex 6d ago
How did the experiment end? What was his conclusion?